Are we chasing our tails and going nowhere?

by DavidO
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I've been in IM for nearly 4 years now and the pattern has become obvious: In the never-ending quest of marketers to trick, deceive, take any shortcut and otherwise gain unfair advantage of the search engines and/or visitors one resource after another gets trashed and shut down.

Likewise, Google and the other search engines are in a constant race to keep one step ahead (or behind!) of the scamsters and manipulators.

And I'm not talking about just the outright spammers and blackhatters. Most of us, myself included, who consider ourselves to be honest and genuine marketers participate in any number of "fake" promotional activities. These range from quickie backlinks in profiles of sites we never intend to use to "group bookmarking" to backdoor edu and gov links and content spinning.

I know, I do it too. It's human nature to seek advantage and minimize work. But I have to stop and wonder... what's it all worth to us? As fast as we discover new techniques the search engines are onto them and taking counter-measures. Are profile backlinks worth the silicon they're written on? Just how effective is Google's pattern recognition software?

Every other day I hear about some new sucker who's been banned or otherwise disappeared from Google. Often they've used so many dodgy techniques that they can't even pinpoint the cause for the "benefit" of the rest of us.

Wouldn't we be better off in the long run to forget about all the tricks and shortcuts? I have a feeling that data analysis will eventually get so sophisticated that we'll have no choice.

How about simply creating unique and useful content which we can promote openly and loudly rather than sneakily. "Here I am! Here's my research, my work, my product. Here's what it can do for you. Come and get it!"
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Hancox
    Hi David

    There is definitely some advantage in paying attention to the latest "trick of the day" (which at the moment, seems to be backlinks on authority sites), but as marketers, we should be looking both at the SHORT TERM and the LONG TERM.

    Google's algorithm is constantly changing. And we've got a major change coming up with the Caffeine update, which Matt Cutts compared to the earlier Big Daddy (?) update a few years ago. But Google will ALWAYS want to serve up the best possible results for their users, so giving Google USERS what they want, in a format that Google loves, should always be high on the agenda.

    In the end, having a genuine authority site will usually pay far greater "dividends" than one that has been "artificially" boosted, and you'll get backlinks naturally because of it.

    Unfortunately, it takes time to build up an authority site in the eyes of others. Ironically, it's easiest to do that with Google, but with our peers, it's less easy.

    I think there's so much focus on "quick fixes" because of the bum marketing mentality. I don't have anything against bum marketing myself, it's a great starting point... but at some point, you'll want to turn your efforts into a REAL BUSINESS.

    Still, that's not to say you can't have your cake AND eat it. Personally, I don't think it's an either/or situation. Using some of the "tricks of the day" CAN help your site to get more visibility, which in turn can lead to more natural authority.

    So why not have both? That's the way I see it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    Originally Posted by DavidO View Post


    How about simply creating unique and useful content which we can promote openly and loudly rather than sneakily. "Here I am! Here's my research, my work, my product. Here's what it can do for you. Come and get it!"
    That's the problem - most people don't have any value to give, so they try to fake or force value in the world.

    If I have a product which cures cancer, how many backlinks, SEO tweaks and fake "popularity" building do you think I need to bust my but in creating?

    When you have something people want and is different (or basically just valuable and effective), then the links will create themselves, the word of mouth will generate by itself...etc.

    Sadly, many folks enter the "internet marketing niche" (whatever THAT means) by picking a product to promote as an affiliate, but with no "base" to promote from.

    If they already HAD a business and made additional income off the back using affiliate promotions, then that would be a different story...one which many folks overlook earlier on.

    Then, when nobody visits their 20 page content site on losing belly fat, and promoting the same program that everyone else is promoting, they blame Google, or whoever else is "against" them for not sending them traffic.

    And if they get traffic and no sales, they'll blame Clickbank.

    I've done it myself. I'm not attacking anyone in particular...in fact, it's a pretty standard route of entry into the world of online marketing.

    The real result is - are you going to continue fighting a dying battle to trick multi billion dollar companies so you can squeeze a few short lived commissions for the next several months (at the expense of all your waking hours), or are you going to spend the next 6 months or more conceiving something of TRUE value that creates its' own magnetism in your market place.

    hint - it doesn't always have to be an eBook.

    In terms of those who already have the solid business in place, with something of value to provide, then yes, I can see that the latest techniques can help to start the wheels of motion.

    But to rest your income on them, is weak. True promotional activities cost money...press releases, multiple media exposure, official/high calibre interviews, joint ventures, marketing gimicks, you know the stuff...
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by DavidO View Post

    Wouldn't we be better off in the long run to forget about all the tricks and shortcuts?
    Yes.

    Some of us already have.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    Originally Posted by DavidO View Post

    How about simply creating unique and useful content which we can promote openly and loudly rather than sneakily. "Here I am! Here's my research, my work, my product. Here's what it can do for you. Come and get it!"

    Good SEO is very much based around what you've outlined here.

    It does help a LOT if you understand the search engines and what they like but the overriding rule always has been and most likely always will be that high quality, highly targeted content wins the long term search engine wars.

    I have pages still number one on Google for competitive terms that I optimized in 2003-2004 and did nothing since.

    I'm glad I took the advice of a genuine SEO expert who told me to focus on providing highly targeted, high quality content, make one page or more per long tail keyword phrase, make as many pages as possible and get backlinks to those pages from high quality related sites.

    It's simple...it works.

    Trying to scam the search engines always has a use by date.

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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    If you know your competitors are doing things to gain a market advantage - even if those things only give short-term edges - you're likely to do those things as well. The waters are shark-infested. Sink or swim mentality sets in. Sometimes you swim and still lose a leg to the sharks.

    I get the OP's beef, but it's a utopian dream. It's a genie that cannot be put back into its bottle. Only something draconian by Google will put things right, whatever that is.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
      There's what's known as modelling the successful. Richard bandler pioneered the NLP model from this exact thought, and if you're not modelling the succesful within your industry, you aren't going to get as successful as that.
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