[CLOSED] Anyone else thinking about giving up Internet Marketing?

by john129 Banned
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Hi,


I am thinking about giving up Internet Marketing altogether.


I haven't been successful with IM at all.


To me IM is very vague and difficult and very time consuming.


I find Forex trading to be more straight forward, less time consuming and more actionable than IM.


I don't have to worry about traffic, advertising, content and other time consuming tasks.


I just wanted to express my feelings and dissatisfaction towards IM.
#giving #internet #marketing #thinking
  • Profile picture of the author Gambino
    It's not for everyone. Better to get out if you don't enjoy it and/or aren't successful with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Looks like you've posted in a lot of WSO threads.
    Did you buy all those? If so, did you work them hard as instructed? Did you stick to it or did you move on to the next shiny object too soon?

    What have you done that is unsuccessful?

    If you've decided to quit because you've found a better opportunity, good luck.

    If you want help to figure out what you've been doing wrong in IM, you need to provide more details.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Nate92
    If you don't love it, it's not for you. However, if the reason you don't enjoy it is because of the lack of success, then you have been trying with the wrong motives.

    You need to not get "shine-object" syndrome. Stop getting distracted by the latest and greatest crap that comes out. Buy one SOLID product. I'm not even saying WSOs. I'm saying any product.

    Learn as much as you can, while taking action. Many solid affiliate training courses teaches from the ground up. As you watch videos and implement what you've learned, you'll eventually make a sale. Guaranteed. Why? Because that's what I did, and that's what many others have done.

    Buckle down, stick to it, and keep pushing. Learn how traffic works. Find traffic sources. Check the grammar and force behind your landing pages. Make sure your articles are good. Buy a WSO on Facebook and Bing Ads.

    Learn the basics of a few different areas, and put them all together. By putting in your best effort in the basics, you will make money. It's just that everyone quits before they even worked hard for 6 months straight with the SAME strategy.

    Don't give up if this is what you want... "Don't fight to give up... Fight to keep going!"
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  • Profile picture of the author john129
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    Actually I am very tired of fighting to get ahead.


    I am tired of trying to learn IM.


    All I want is to find a Software solution for my traffic and advertising needs.


    I cant do any of these time consuming tasks manually myself such as advertising, getting traffic, etc...


    simply because I don't have much free time and its just too much hassle.


    So if anyone who knows about an inexpensive Software that can bring in free traffic please let me know.


    I would be very happy to buy this automated software that can bring in free traffic. otherwise there is no hope for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
      Originally Posted by john129 View Post

      Actually I am very tired of fighting to get ahead.


      I am tired of trying to learn IM.


      All I want is to find a Software solution for my traffic and advertising needs.


      I cant do any of these time consuming tasks manually myself such as advertising, getting traffic, etc...


      simply because I don't have much free time and its just too much hassle.
      In that case, if you know Forex or other ways to make money you might be better off going that direction. It sounds like this business isn't what you are looking for.

      So if anyone who knows about an inexpensive Software that can bring in free traffic please let me know.


      I would be very happy to buy this automated software that can bring in free traffic. otherwise there is no hope for me.
      I would ignore any PMs or offers you get to take you up on this statement. There is no such thing. Yes there are little tricks or scripts that can help in the process but all of it takes hard work, learning, testing, etc.

      Think about this - if I had hands off automated software that brought in a bunch of quality traffic at will and didn't require any work or upkeep, why in the world would I even sell this thing? I would buy a bunch of cheap domains, set up the software, and get rich without lifting a finger.

      Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author john129
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    Mark: maybe there is still someone exist who is kind enough to sell such software


    Obviously you are not that kind of person. you seem to be selfish and self-centred.


    This is the problem actually. if it wasn't because of people like you, I and people like me wouldn't have any issue.


    Unfortunately, you are a shark like most people.
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    • Profile picture of the author danieldesai
      Originally Posted by john129 View Post

      Mark: maybe there is still someone exist who is kind enough to sell such software
      No-one can sell you such a software because it doesn't exist.

      The only way to get traffic is to pay for it with your money or pay for it with LOTS of hard work.


      Originally Posted by john129 View Post

      Obviously you are not that kind of person. you seem to be selfish and self-centred.


      This is the problem actually. if it wasn't because of people like you, I and people like me wouldn't have any issue.


      Unfortunately, you are a shark like most people.
      LOL what?

      How is Mark a shark? (Heh, that rhymes so nicely.)

      Mark isn't selling anything here, how can he be a shark?

      Mark gave you solid advice, and gave you nothing but the truth about what it takes to generate traffic, "all of it takes hard work, learning, testing, etc."

      But hey, because you didn't like the truth, you decided to be rude and call him selfish and self-centered?

      In case you didn't know how things work around here, let me help you...

      You don't get all the answers you'd like to hear, especially if you want honest answers from people who actually know what they're talking about, and being rude only makes you look bad.

      Daniel
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      • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
        Originally Posted by danieldesai View Post

        No-one can sell you such a software because it doesn't exist.

        The only way to get traffic is to pay for it with your money or pay for it with LOTS of hard work.




        LOL what?

        How is Mark a shark? (Heh, that rhymes so nicely.)

        Mark isn't selling anything here, how can he be a shark?

        Mark gave you solid advice, and gave you nothing but the truth about what it takes to generate traffic, "all of it takes hard work, learning, testing, etc."

        But hey, because you didn't like the truth, you decided to be rude and call him selfish and self-centered?

        In case you didn't know how things work around here, let me help you...

        You don't get all the answers you'd like to hear, especially if you want honest answers from people who actually know what they're talking about, and being rude only makes you look bad.

        Daniel
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        • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
          Jason, thank you. I think I'll make that my avatar to make sure people stay clear of me.

          Mark

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    • Profile picture of the author Gambino
      Originally Posted by john129 View Post

      Mark: maybe there is still someone exist who is kind enough to sell such software


      Obviously you are not that kind of person. you seem to be selfish and self-centred.


      This is the problem actually. if it wasn't because of people like you, I and people like me wouldn't have any issue.


      Unfortunately, you are a shark like most people.
      It's time to pack it in. You are chasing something that doesn't exist. There is no magic software that sends you traffic that converts to sales. If that existed we'd all be millionaires and we wouldn't be on the forum talking about making money online.

      The way I see it you have two options.

      1. Quit
      2. Quit crying and work.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
      My point in saying I wouldn't sell it isn't that I wouldn't sell it but that it does not exist.

      A person that would sell you such a thing is not kind. They are a lying scammer.

      A shark would take your money and keep on taking it for something that doesn't work. Yet I'm trying to help by saying this magic solution doesn't exist and I'm the bad guy?

      Okay. Time to move on.

      Good luck.

      Mark

      Originally Posted by john129 View Post

      Mark: maybe there is still someone exist who is kind enough to sell such software


      Obviously you are not that kind of person. you seem to be selfish and self-centred.


      This is the problem actually. if it wasn't because of people like you, I and people like me wouldn't have any issue.


      Unfortunately, you are a shark like most people.
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    • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
      Originally Posted by john129 View Post

      Mark: maybe there is still someone exist who is kind enough to sell such software


      Obviously you are not that kind of person. you seem to be selfish and self-centred.


      This is the problem actually. if it wasn't because of people like you, I and people like me wouldn't have any issue.


      Unfortunately, you are a shark like most people.
      Maybe you need to grow some! Mark was telling the truth and if you have an attitude like this your right MMO is not for you

      What ever you do don't go into the people profiling business you will fail at that as well

      FYI There no such software on the market that can help you

      Jason
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  • Profile picture of the author Winning34
    Personally I love the fact that IM is hard and "vague" because I know that will deter much of my competition from being successful at it.

    OP seems very naive if he thinks all he has to do is buy some miracle software, click a few buttons and then sit back and wait for the $$ to roll in.
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    • Profile picture of the author john129
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      • Profile picture of the author Gambino
        Originally Posted by john129 View Post

        So competition is bad for you???????

        You just proved to others what I have been trying to say. you are an example of a selfish and evil person.


        You just proved my point.
        These are my favorite threads. Someone complains that they aren't intelligent enough and/or don't work hard enough, then get mad at successful people for not creating competition for themselves after they've put in the effort to build a viable business.

        Funny thing is, you could probably post a step-by-step blueprint and what you do every day to be successful and the type of people who complain like this will never threaten your business. Cutting grass takes time and is probably too difficult.

        I'd say thank goodness that there's always grass that needs to be cut, but I think thank goodness for soup kitchens is more accurate.
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      • Profile picture of the author Winning34
        Originally Posted by john129 View Post

        So competition is bad for you???????

        You just proved to others what I have been trying to say. you are an example of a selfish and evil person.


        You just proved my point.
        lol you're delusional.

        My point is, if it were easy, then everyone would be doing it. I don't mind that because that motivates me even more knowing that lazy dreamers like you will be throwing in the towel.

        Yep, you're definitely not cut out for this business. You're just looking for shortcuts and for people to spoon feed you.

        I doubt you'll ever make any money in FOREX either but it's no surprise to me that you believe all the FOREX hype. I bet you've bought all the FOREX training courses and "systems" too. You do realise that only 5% of retail FOREX traders make money? And those 5% have worked hard at it for several years.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by john129 View Post

    Hi,


    I am thinking about giving up Internet Marketing altogether.


    I haven't been successful with IM at all.


    To me IM is very vague and difficult and very time consuming.


    I find Forex trading to be more straight forward, less time consuming and more actionable than IM.


    I don't have to worry about traffic, advertising, content and other time consuming tasks.


    I just wanted to express my feelings and dissatisfaction towards IM.

    What have you tried?

    IM is very large and it's a very broad and vague statement saying that it's difficult and time consuming. It can be but so can working for others (ie. A job)

    Perhaps if you share what exactly you have tried and challenges you have faced we could try to help you?
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  • Profile picture of the author shaunybb
    Maybe it's not for you but I would like you to try again, my friend had a blog for 2 years no income, then suddenly traffic picked up and so did sales. He now makes $200+ a day! It's not what you know, it's how you use it
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    • Profile picture of the author kilgore
      Originally Posted by shaunybb View Post

      Maybe it's not for you but I would like you to try again, my friend had a blog for 2 years no income, then suddenly traffic picked up and so did sales. He now makes $200+ a day! It's not what you know, it's how you use it
      Maybe your friend "suddenly" found success. But I guarantee your friend wasn't asking for software that would bring in free, targeted traffic and then badmouthing people who were trying to help him.

      The OP has obviously read too many MMO headlines: "Make money with no work!", "AUTOPILOT SOLUTIONS TO MILLIONS $$$!!!", "Change water into aged single malt scotch with three easy steps!" (OK, the last one is my own dream headline -- but we all gotta believe in something, right?)

      The point is, the OP hasn't even figured out that it's not just IM, it's a business; he also hasn't figured out that there's competition out there or even that there's work involved. Until he realizes that there's no free-money, magic-button IM ATM, he's much better off with his forex trading or just stuffing a few quarters under his mattress.
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  • Profile picture of the author john129
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    for what its worth, I created this thread to also expose the bad, selfish people and sharks. and as you can see, they are being exposed.


    I never said money is Evil. I love money like anyone else. who doesn't?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    John 129:

    Even though you think I'm a bad guy I hope you can understand the point I'm trying to get across here.

    I know that you have spent a lot of money with not much to show for it. You said in one post you've spent $30,000. That's way too much to have spent for nothing!

    I've looked at some of your past posts. There is a disturbing pattern that explains clearly why you haven't made any money.

    1. Every few days you are on a new WSO that promises big bucks with little work. This means that you aren't focusing on the ones that you have already bought. You have shiny object syndrome. You are looking for instant riches instead of a real business or even anything realistic. You should be busy working what you have instead of looking for the next miracle.

    2. The WSOs you ask about are all over the place topic wise. You want free, automatic traffic. You want free Bitcoins. You want to make big bucks with CPA. You want front page rankings. You want to sell stuff on Clickbank. You want to make money on YouTube. There is no rhyme or reason to what you are looking for except that you seem to be desperate for something to work. So, again, you are jumping from idea to idea to idea. Why not pick one topic or one area to focus on and ignore everything else?

    3. In many of your posts you ask questions like "can I do this with no work?", "can I do this without a website?", "can I do this on a free Blogger.com blog?", "is it automatic?", "how much work do I have to do?", "is there a money back guarantee?", etc. Those are the types of questions that people ask that never make money. We all may have money shortages. I've been broker than broke. We all have to start somewhere. But the questions you are asking show your lack of intent and commitment to make things work. Even in this thread you said you wanted to do no work.

    If you don't change direction, you will continue to spend money and not have the lifestyle you want. You mentioned somewhere about your kids. You are never going to make enough money to spend more time with them, feed them, or anything else if you don't figure out pretty quickly that the road you are on is the road to ruin.

    People do make money online. But they do it through work, learning, fixing things, etc. just like any other business. Unless you are willing to do those things, seriously please don't spend another dime on these products because none of it will work. I promise you that none of it works if you don't work.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author john129
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    Mark: so what can you offer me now?


    I am receiving messages from people offering me some help.


    but you haven't offered me any REAL help yet.


    Those people who are wanting to help me are the kind people I was talking about.
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    • Profile picture of the author CaRTmAnBrAh
      Originally Posted by john129 View Post

      I am receiving messages from people offering me some help.
      You tell em John.

      I've got some magic beans if you're interested? Only $997.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
      Originally Posted by john129 View Post

      Mark: so what can you offer me now?
      I'm currently not in the MMO market so besides what I can offer here, I don't have products or scripts or whatever to sell you.

      I am receiving messages from people offering me some help.

      but you haven't offered me any REAL help yet.

      Those people who are wanting to help me are the kind people I was talking about.
      These are the people I was warning you about. It happens practically every time someone mentions they have money to spend.

      Those people are the real sharks. Of course, there may be exceptions but they are few and far between.

      Here's some help for you if you want to take it: list out their usernames and what they are going to offer you to help you. We'll review their offerings and let you know what has a chance to work. Then you can decide.

      Or if you think they are the good guys, here to rescue you from your problems, go ahead and waste more money by buying whatever they are selling you.

      Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author Winning34
      Originally Posted by john129 View Post



      Those people who are wanting to help me are the kind people I was talking about.
      lol at thinking they are being "kind". They have something to sell you. They'll probably start with telling you to sign up for their newsletter or something. Stop looking for "secrets" that aren't there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gambino
      Originally Posted by john129 View Post

      I am receiving messages from people offering me some help.
      Geez Louise. I wonder why these helpful people don't offer their assistance to the entire forum and only target people who are desperate and looking for a quick solution via PM? They're probably not "sharks".

      I too was hard headed and learned not to get burned by getting burned. So, good luck John.
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    • Profile picture of the author danieldesai
      Originally Posted by john129 View Post

      Mark: so what can you offer me now?


      I am receiving messages from people offering me some help.


      but you haven't offered me any REAL help yet.


      Those people who are wanting to help me are the kind people I was talking about.

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  • Profile picture of the author terinah14
    Originally Posted by john129 View Post

    Hi,


    I am thinking about giving up Internet Marketing altogether.


    I haven't been successful with IM at all.


    To me IM is very vague and difficult and very time consuming.


    I find Forex trading to be more straight forward, less time consuming and more actionable than IM.


    I don't have to worry about traffic, advertising, content and other time consuming tasks.


    I just wanted to express my feelings and dissatisfaction towards IM.
    I also think that it's not for me. Now I just want to blog without thinking about monetization..
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    It doesn't matter if someone was to pursue Internet Marketing or Forex.

    BOTH require a learning curve, focus, daily action and perseverance.

    One is not easier than another.
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  • Profile picture of the author cmm2333
    Had to jump in so here I go. John123, have you ever heard the saying "the riches are in the niches". It"sTrue. You mentioned that internet marketing was vague.

    First order of business you have to narrow down and become specific in the market that you want to serve. And NO Internet Marketing is not a quick get rich overnight Magical thing that happens
    (Contrary to what many IM's try to say).

    Internet Marketing is about consistency, ( don't reinvent the wheel, others have already done it for you). Learn what successful internet marketers are doing, from things like what runs where, SEM Rush, What ads are they running? what are they selling? Where are the Ads being run?

    Understand this, people do not continue to run ads over and over again if they are not successful. If an Ad has been running for 9 months continuously there is a reason why because ( It's working).

    Find the stream and follow it.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
    Has no one else picked up on the Bible strategy here? John 129 ! lightning bolts, floods etc etc , I am starting to think this was just a troll looking for some fun.

    Jason
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  • Profile picture of the author dansilvestre
    Originally Posted by john129 View Post

    Obviously you are not that kind of person. you seem to be selfish and self-centred.
    Unfortunately, you are a shark like most people.
    John,

    People are trying to help you here. They are taking time from their lives to help YOU for no money at all.

    I would be very careful at pointing fingers and insulting people. You are also breaking the Warrior Forum rules, more specifically rule 1.3. "Do not harass, personally attack, blackmail, spam or bully buyers and/or other Warrior Forum members." Consider this a warning.

    You are looking for a "Software solution for my traffic and advertising needs". Let me be very clear here (as others have been already): this does not exist.

    Also what you call "time-consuming tasks (...) such as advertising, getting traffic, etc" others simply call Business.

    If you don't want to listen to advice then nobody can help you.

    /Thread closed.
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