Stop Hating Newbies! They Could Be Your Teacher Someday!

by Nate92
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Alright Warrior Forum, here's the thing; every now and then I come to this site to see what is "new", which there is hardly anything "new"... but the biggest thing that I see is people either bashing or taking advantage of a "newbie".

To get down to business, I would like to point out the fact that newbies know nothing. They hardly know how to set up a WordPress site, and maybe have the ideas of how an auto-responder and a landing page works. So, kudos to them for taking the time to learn!

What does this mean to me?

It shows me that people are WANTING TO LEARN! THEY ARE HUNGRY FOR MORE! So people, with some experience, create quick and simple WSOs to take advantage of newbies to make a few quick bucks. There are some WSOs that are absolutely amazing. I've bought several myself and have learned much through them.

However, many people who have been here longer than a year can see most WSOs are just rewrites of the same concepts and tactics.

While I am not writing to argue the legitimacy of WSOs or even advertisements here, I am trying to bring up the fact that newbies have little to no knowledge or experience.

So if that is true, why would they be your teacher some day? Wouldn't you both be learning at the same time, in which case, you would stay of newbies? I don't know, you tell me! Here's an example...

Newbie dude starts studying online on the basics principles of creating a website for functionality, a funnel with the key concepts in mind, and lead generation at the basic level.

This person will eventually make their first sale. Why? Because by following the KEY CONCEPTS, no matter what your marketing strategy is, they will make sales in time.

As they progress, they will learn how to track conversions better, and split-test. They will also learn how to improve their copy, and learn more of what brought their few sales, and expand. This leads to an increase of studies and knowledge. The most important key is that newbies want success. However, that only comes through taking action.

As long as they understand that taking action upon your knowledge brings success, not only online, but in all areas of life, they will grow to a higher level.

Meanwhile, those people who have been around a while have gotten so caught up in the latest hype for "Buy this Super-Conversion tracker 2000 2.0 edition to track when you leads pick their nose!", and "Buy this WSO to show how sending your list a happy face every morning will earn you more sales!", or how about, "Untapped traffic source never used before! Act now before it runs dry!"

You all know what I'm talking about if you've bought many WSOs. While the experienced person is looking for the latest and greatest ideas and techniques, Newbie Dude is catching up. Why? Because the experienced guy isn't doing anything but learning!

So what happens when Newbie Dude catches up? Well, he makes a choice... Either he continues to expand as he has been to create a comfortable income, or he tries to beat the top dogs before he's even to their level, which is a major mistake. In order to compete with the top dogs, you need to be a top dog... You get there through consistent work, and even a team to help expand your business.

Simplicity is working a business by yourself, as long as it's not too much too handle. Success is when you learn to outsource work to save yourself time for the tasks you are good at.

Anyways, let's say Newbie Dude decides to start outsourcing the work he's been doing, and learn how to expand his business to a broader audience, and really starts getting some traffic. At this point, all he has to do is continue to build that list! Build, build, build!

What happens when he retains constant traffic for 3-6 months? If he averaged a simple 10-15 people a day, he would have a list of about 2,700 (15 x 30 x 6). What's the market average per name on a list? About $1. I know some who average $3-$5 per name. Again, that depends on your quality of work and traffic.

To conclude my point, all that Newbie Dude has to do at this point is come up with something very sociable. By that, I mean something that either depicts or expresses what he does in a way that people would love it, as well as share it. It needs to offer value, and grab attention of people.

He then has to send that out to his list, as well as his social pages, if he has any, which he should. With a force of 2,700 followers, not only can he continue to add the BASIC 10-15 people a day, but now he can have his loyal followers share things for him. BAM! Free traffic...

Now he has two sources of traffic. The one he's using for 10-15 a day, as well as maybe 0.5-1%, maybe 2-3% depending on his niche, sharing his stuff with their friends! Let's say it's 1%. 1% of 2,700 is 27. 27 people share that article, post, infographic, you name it.

That piece of work that Newbie Dude had shared by 27 people, assuming the average facebook members have 200 friends, would then get his stuff in front of another 5,400 people.

Maybe 2% sign up to his newsletter. That's another 108 people.

Look people... It's not complicated. It's really not! People over-complicate everything because people have this natural, misleading idea, that complex is more effective. It's really not all of the time!

I want people to realize that there's a reason I stick to the basics. There's a reason when I write articles, it's about how to build a business from the ground up in the simplest of ways. If you start over complicating everything, it's going to get stressful, and you're going to quit.

Just remember... That "newbie dude" is putting in work, and he's catching up. Who's to say he won't be the one to write an article, or create a product down the road that pulls you out of the mud of your own lack of action?

Hope this really gets some people thinking, as honestly, it's a fact that lack of action leads to failure. Learn at your own pace, and learn anything you want. Just DO NOT STOP TAKING ACTION!

Again, hope this helps. Take care, and I'll see you soon!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by Nate92 View Post

    it's a fact that lack of action leads to failure

    Action is certainly important, no doubt. But action alone does not always translate into success. Many people have lamented in their threads that they've been working for months, even years, doing whatever and they still are not making money.

    Action applied to the right marketing steps produces profit.


    Originally Posted by Nate92 View Post

    . . . learn anything you want. Just DO NOT STOP TAKING ACTION!
    This is where I disagree with you. Many Warriors, in the pursuit of making money, take lots of action doing things that don't produce results.

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    • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      Action is certainly important, no doubt. But action alone does not always translate into success. Many people have lamented in their threads that they've been working for months, even years, doing whatever and they still are not making money.

      Action applied to the right marketing steps produces profit.




      This is where I disagree with you. Many Warriors, in the pursuit of making money, take lots of action doing things that don't produce results.

      Steve
      I am one of those people who constantly preach to take action. I know this alone will not guarentee success but with that being said - it's hard to find results without action.

      I do totally agree you can take action and not get results. From my experience I've seen many people get caught up in the "learning phase" and they do nothing but read and never try anything and then question how to become successful. This is why I personally keep trying to push people towards taking action. IMO you significantly increase your odds of success with the more action you take. (Just my opinion)
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  • Profile picture of the author gotthrowaway
    So if that is true, why would they be your teacher some day? Wouldn't you both be learning at the same time, in which case, you would stay of newbies? I don't know, you tell me! Here's an example...
    Can someone continue to build on a thesis statement after admitting they have no basis for that thesis statement?

    I like that you're trying to be inspirational though, maybe this just isn't the ideal delivery.
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  • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
    Nate would you not agree that we are all newbies as we are learning new tricks all the time!

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    • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
      Originally Posted by Regional Warrior View Post

      Nate would you not agree that we are all newbies as we are learning new tricks all the time!

      Jason
      Hey, that's a thought! If you view it from that angle you're spot on.

      Yesterday for lunch i learned something new: i was just about to leave
      but had to pop one question to 2 gentlemen sitting one table away:

      I said: "when i see 2 guys having a bottle of wine AND a bottle of champagne
      for lunch I know you guys doing properties, am I right?"

      both break out in laughter and said "No mate, we dont do properties, sit down
      we give you a fresh glass and a little education"

      Turns out one is a published author and the other is a consul of an EU nation.
      Later another book author turned up and another fine gentlemen of unknown
      habits and preference to earn a living.

      We were discussing the Fed and who owns them. Then we discussed the
      banking system in other countries, and their owners. Never had a better time
      in my life. Now I know some of the main influencers on my island.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gambino
      First off, let me say that I don't think there are any "newbie haters" on this forum so I'm not sure where the OP is coming from. Nobody bashes newbies for wanting to learn or discuss IM. However, the people who come here looking for an immediate, easy, no work, no investment, instant payday do usually get hammered and in my opinion, deservedly so.

      I know I don't appreciate it when people come in with questions like "how can I make $3000 by tomorrow with no work or money?" I also don't appreciate when people come in and ask a question that gets asked multiple times per week or per day. However, the few that come in and ask detailed questions and have actually tried to find a solution, I am more than happy to help whenever I can. Those people, in my opinion, have a chance to succeed but they seem to be rare.

      I remember when I was a newbie. It took me years of trial and error to get sustainable, scaleable traction and build a brand. So, I remember well what it's like. However, I didn't expect a magic button and worked hard to figure it out despite a lot of failed ventures.

      I wish someone would have sat me in a room 5 or 6 years ago with a laptop with Microsoft word, a wordpress blog on a good domain, long tail pro, and just told me to type and post. No doubt I would have been 1000x further than I am now. But, I think the lessons I learned by trial and error had some value that led me to where I am.

      When I started out, I was looking for quick and easy, admittedly. Easy traffic, easy commissions, easy money. I didn't want to blog. I didn't want to build links, I didn't want to constantly answer questions, I didn't want to run social media or promote my sites, I just wanted to make sales. Basically, I was an idiot. But, I eventually realized that hard work and dedication is necessary to make this a viable business.

      The best advice I could give someone looking for a quick and easy solution to MMO, is to don't even try. Find something else to do and come back when you're ready to work and learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    It is like being stuck in a round room and asked to pick a corner, given your new if anyone disagree's with your post in full or part, then I suppose they would be deemed as a newbie hater.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    A Newbie can very well become a coach one day. Why not?

    But that Newbie needs:

    1- To Stay FOCUSED

    2- Pick (1) Product

    3- Pick (1) Traffic Method, learn it and master it!

    4- Personal Development Daily (to Free the MIND) in down time like walking, jogging, commuting or any other time one can listen to daily audios.

    5- Time Management: Put aside time (2, 4 or even 8 hours per day) to do 'Income Producing Activities (this is not time to do training).

    6- Keep it Simple (like OP said).

    7- Take Responsibility! Take responsibility for where you are in life right now based on decisions made by you PLUS take responsibility for your success online. Not blaming others for anything. This is the ONLY way to step into your personal power.

    Anyone who blames others will always stay in victim mode.

    8- Persevere!!
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    • Profile picture of the author amalrichard
      If a New Bie learnt how to Bring traffic to a Website or Affiliate Link or Landing page. Thats it he is the Guru.

      Then he/she can rinse and repeat the process to earn more and be a Mentor to Others.
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      • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
        Originally Posted by amalrichard View Post

        If a New Bie learnt how to Bring traffic to a Website or Affiliate Link or Landing page. Thats it he is the Guru.

        Then he/she can rinse and repeat the process to earn more and be a Mentor to Others.
        Translated

        Why can I not get traffic to my sites and can someone help me!

        Jason
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  • Profile picture of the author Nate92
    I enjoy the variety! Seriously, thank you everyone for all of your input.

    My purpose was not to call people out as "newbie haters', and I understand that there is a balance between working (taking action), and actually learning what to do, and how to do it correctly.

    Too much learning without enough action will not bring any success, just as too much action without enough learning is equally as dangerous.

    My true purpose of this thread is to simply show new people that others have been where they are, but they LEARNED what they needed to DO!

    And I see a lot of high-timers on here giving their input, which is extremely helpful to anyone who is in search of any form of mentoring.

    We all know "the basics"... Drive traffic to a page, build a list, make a sale. And yet we have all evolved that concept into a strategy of our own makings through trial and error.

    One person may say one strategy, such as PPC campaigns to a landing page will never build a successful business, while others have made millions with such strategy. In the same sense, there are those who disagree completely with SEO marketing and social networking, as well as solo ads to blog posts or landing pages. And yet there are those who are successful and financially independent through such strategies.

    My point, was simply to stir up the dust in the room to get ideas out there of how people think and act upon different angles of opinion. I feel I have done just that, and I hope to see many more people's input on what they do and how they think, and what caused them to see results.

    Thank you all for your replies!

    I hope no one took offense to anything I wrote... As I said, it's just to create some waves to get different perspectives.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Originally Posted by Nate92 View Post

      My purpose was not to call people out as "newbie haters'

      That may not have been your purpose . . .

      But with your headline, "Stop Hating Newbies!" is it any wonder that people reading your thread might get that impression?

      Sometimes just stating your purpose and proceeding is the best way to communicate a thought.

      When you smack a beehive with a baseball bat, you're probably going to get stung a few times.

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      • Profile picture of the author Nate92
        Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

        That may not have been your purpose . . .

        But with your headline, "Stop Hating Newbies!" is it any wonder that people reading your thread might get that impression?

        Sometimes just stating your purpose and proceeding is the best way to communicate a thought.

        When you smack a beehive with a baseball bat, you're probably going to get stung a few times.

        Steve

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        I agree with you. It may not have been my purpose, but getting the attention to the fact that I have just seen a few "experienced" people being less than helpful to newer people was getting annoying, and I was once there.

        I simply want people to realize that this forum is for helping people learn. This does happen, of course, but the negativity that I've seen, as well as have heard about isn't helping this community in any way.

        And besides that, I rarely see any posts that don't "get stung" once or twice. That's just what happens when you let yourself open your mouth in a large community. There's always someone who disagrees.
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  • Profile picture of the author rhmataur
    I am surprised my friend. I like the way you described. Yes really Newbies are looking for something to move on. But the problem is nobody is ready to help them to win something. Also they are HUNGRY of getting a job for future. If we ignor newbies that will cause mental problem for them. So my suggestion is to help them as much as you can
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    • Profile picture of the author Nate92
      Originally Posted by rhmataur View Post

      I am surprised my friend. I like the way you described. Yes really Newbies are looking for something to move on. But the problem is nobody is ready to help them to win something. Also they are HUNGRY of getting a job for future. If we ignor newbies that will cause mental problem for them. So my suggestion is to help them as much as you can
      I agree! Help them learn what needs to be done so that they can get a mentor and a taste for results before they give up on their dreams. Just because someone is new, doesn't mean they can't be good at it later!

      Everyone starts at the beginning.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
      Originally Posted by rhmataur View Post

      But the problem is nobody is ready to help them to win something.
      The problem is; you can hand them all the answers and they still do nothing.

      Here's the scenario: Newbie asks a question. Numerous people give them correct, helpful answers. Newbie wants different answers.
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    Originally Posted by Nate92 View Post

    Alright Warrior Forum, here's the thing; every now and then I come to this site to see what is "new", which there is hardly anything "new"... but the biggest thing that I see is people either bashing or taking advantage of a "newbie".


    You're confused.

    I've never seen anyone flame a noob on this forum that had legit questions. How can I go from food stamps to making millions by next month isn't a legit question/thread.

    Flaming 3rd world junk is a whole other deal.

    Your post/title reads like you're trying to milk the Thanks button via the underdogs. </drama>
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    • Profile picture of the author Nate92
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      You're confused.

      I've never seen anyone flame a noob on this forum that had legit questions. How can I go from food stamps to making millions by next month isn't a legit question/thread.

      Flaming 3rd world junk is a whole other deal.

      Your post/title reads like you're trying to milk the Thanks button via the underdogs. </drama>
      I'm not trying to "milk" anything. I've seen on several threads people saying that's a "noobish" thing to do, or "newbies can't teach newbies", and so on.

      What I'm trying to do is just spark interesting conversations that bring out the ideas and personality behind being successful.

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        Originally Posted by Nate92 View Post

        I'm not trying to "milk" anything. I've seen on several threads people saying that's a "noobish" thing to do, or "newbies can't teach newbies", and so on.

        What I'm trying to do is just spark interesting conversations that bring out the ideas and personality behind being successful.

        Thanks

        Well common sense is to seek advice from someone with experience.

        If you had to fly an airplane would you ask an experienced pilot or a janitor that plays flight simulator games on the weekend? I'd go with experience.

        Sure everyone has something to bring to the table one way or another, I mean we all come from different work backgrounds but a person needs to be able to separate self promotion and spam on forums.

        IM forums are the worst about overnight self proclaimed gurus. I've seen it several times here, a forum profile will ask noob questions and the next week be handing out advice like they've got 10 years under their belt. Forum sigs are a good tip for separating spam from noobs with legit questions.
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        • Profile picture of the author Nate92
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Well common sense is to seek advice from someone with experience.

          If you had to fly an airplane would you ask an experienced pilot or a janitor that plays flight simulator games on the weekend? I'd go with experience.

          Sure everyone has something to bring to the table one way or another, I mean we all come from different work backgrounds but a person needs to be able to separate self promotion and spam on forums.

          IM forums are the worst about overnight self proclaimed gurus. I've seen it several times here, a forum profile will ask noob questions and the next week be handing out advice like they've got 10 years under their belt. Forum sigs are a good tip for separating spam from noobs with legit questions.
          And I agree with you. People however, most people just don't know who to ask, and for what questions that person could help with.

          There are many spammers on here, and even people who take every conversation in a thread, turn it into a WSO and make money simply from that. Do I agree with that? Not exactly, but hey, as long as it helps someone, who's to tell them to stop, you know?

          I apologize if this subject was pointless to you, but lately I've seen the decline of actual assistance and growth of "instant guru's" such as you said.

          I guess any attempts I make at trying to bring the help out for people to read about what to think and where to go for help wasn't quite what this thread brought. Again, I apologize if that's not what you saw.
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          Originally Posted by yukon View Post


          Sure everyone has something to bring to the table one way or another, I mean we all come from different work backgrounds but a person needs to be able to separate self promotion and spam on forums.

          IM forums are the worst about overnight self proclaimed gurus. I've seen it several times here, a forum profile will ask noob questions and the next week be handing out advice like they've got 10 years under their belt. Forum sigs are a good tip for separating spam from noobs with legit questions.
          Just another newbie been sent here with an affiliate offer in his sig file.
          How original.
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        • Profile picture of the author ObsidianKnight
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Well common sense is to seek advice from someone with experience.

          If you had to fly an airplane would you ask an experienced pilot or a janitor that plays flight simulator games on the weekend? I'd go with experience.
          Whats to say the janitor was not a flight instructor in a past job or that the experienced pilot is not a drunkard who had 12 crashes in the last year.

          Unless you engage with those people or at least learn more about them you will never know. Don't make decisions based upon a lack of information.

          I think many people miss a point when it comes to "newbies".

          The term"Newbie" might classify them and being "new to marketing" while it may not mean that they have nothing to offer.

          My father would be classified as a newbie to computers even though he uses them daily. Never mind being a marketer. But you would be extremely hard pressed to find a better machinist anywhere. He has 40 years of machining experience and has mastered his field.

          For a man who never made it past 9th grade education (being drafted to Vietnam) he can do fractional math considerably better then myself who has a BA is computer science.

          No one should ever dismiss others simply based upon a "Perceived Status" or label. Many people, marketers included, often specialize in one aspect of their field. Not many of us have mastered everything there is to learn about Internet Marketing making us all "Newbies" in one area or another.

          Anyone who claims to know it all likely does not truly know how little they know.
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          • Profile picture of the author Nate92
            Originally Posted by ObsidianKnight View Post

            Whats to say the janitor was not a flight instructor in a past job or that the experienced pilot is not a drunkard who had 12 crashes in the last year.

            Unless you engage with those people or at least learn more about them you will never know. Don't make decisions based upon a lack of information.

            I think many people miss a point when it comes to "newbies".

            The term"Newbie" might classify them and being "new to marketing" while it may not mean that they have nothing to offer.

            My father would be classified as a newbie to computers even though he uses them daily. Never mind being a marketer. But you would be extremely hard pressed to find a better machinist anywhere. He has 40 years of machining experience and has mastered his field.

            For a man who never made it past 9th grade education (being drafted to Vietnam) he can do fractional math considerably better then myself who has a BA is computer science.

            No one should ever dismiss others simply based upon a "Perceived Status" or label. Many people, marketers included, often specialize in one aspect of their field. Not many of us have mastered everything there is to learn about Internet Marketing making us all "Newbies" in one area or another.

            Anyone who claims to know it all likely does not truly know how little they know.
            Dang... That's solid input. I love the mindset. I'll be honest, I've never even really looked at it this way either...

            Many people on here with new accounts promoting affiliate offers are simply copying what they see others doing. They perceive that that is how business is done here. Sure, I use a sig link to a landing page when I'm building a list for upcoming products and to add onto mine, but I take care of my people.

            Most everyone else just throws affiliate offers and only offers without adding value in the long run.

            In order to that, it simply takes time to learn the trade and grow your knowledge and experience to where you can help others.

            I really appreciate your input!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    This is just my opinion, nothing more . . .

    I believe the best way to prepare oneself for business ownership is through discovery. I think newbies should spend some time watching, observing, and learning about online business. They will soon start to see patterns develop and terms will make sense to them so they can speak the language of the marketer.

    IMO, many people coming here are not willing or patient enough to go through that initial discovery phase to prepare themselves to ask intelligent questions. They, instead, bring an entitlement mentality to learning about IM. They expect to be hand fed by the experienced members without any basis or foundation upon which to build.

    They are enticed by the dream of making money online and being their own boss so they come with their hands out wanting to be fed without much of a clue how to apply the truths they pick up here. They are not interested in an apprenticeship - they want the paycheck of the master without the attached "blood, sweat and tears."

    To me, IM is a professional career just like bookkeeping, medicine, plumbing, or law. You prepare yourself first with education and training. You're not really ready to coach anyone until you have the experience under your belt.

    No one is entitled to be handed all the answers and those who are professionals should not be expected to give beyond what they themselves volunteer to share.

    Just my opinion,

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    I think Durable Oil has been a newbie for over 10 years now, maybe he'll be able to teach me someday!
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  • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
    That's why I always try my best to help people out and be as nice as possible. You honestly never know what someone is capable of. You don't know who they know. You never know if you being mean to them will mess up a business opportunity later on.
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  • Profile picture of the author trobo
    This is a very interesting take on things, especially when you mention the newbie could become the "teacher" one day.

    The IM world is very different than many other industries out there. Experience is not the end-all be-all as it is in many other skillsets. OK, so someone has 20 years experience in IM - they've been doing this since the dawn of the interwebs.

    This sounds quite impressive on the surface, and don't get me wrong - it is impressive from a general business standpoint. They certainly know what the hell they're doing.

    But just like the tech industry things become outdated very fast. It is absolutely possible that a newbie can latch on to a new concept or technique, and become far more skilled at it than the guy with years of experience that might get a little lazy when it comes to learning newer and more advanced techniques.

    That is one of the most interesting things about internet marketing. Like the tech industry, it tends to shatter old dogma and beliefs. It doesn't matter how much experience you have. Once you start failing to learn new things and implement new ideas, you are only fooling yourself if you think your "guru" status will keep its luster for long.

    So to all the newbies out there: ALWAYS keep learning and improving and never let anyone discourage you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nate92
      Originally Posted by trobo View Post

      This is a very interesting take on things, especially when you mention the newbie could become the "teacher" one day.

      The IM world is very different than many other industries out there. Experience is not the end-all be-all as it is in many other skillsets. OK, so someone has 20 years experience in IM - they've been doing this since the dawn of the interwebs.

      This sounds quite impressive on the surface, and don't get me wrong - it is impressive from a general business standpoint. They certainly know what the hell they're doing.

      But just like the tech industry things become outdated very fast. It is absolutely possible that a newbie can latch on to a new concept or technique, and become far more skilled at it than the guy with years of experience that might get a little lazy when it comes to learning newer and more advanced techniques.

      That is one of the most interesting things about internet marketing. Like the tech industry, it tends to shatter old dogma and beliefs. It doesn't matter how much experience you have. Once you start failing to learn new things and implement new ideas, you are only fooling yourself if you think your "guru" status will keep its luster for long.

      So to all the newbies out there: ALWAYS keep learning and improving and never let anyone discourage you.
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  • Profile picture of the author gabrielrala
    we were all newbies, all the experts came from being newbies! no one can skip nor escape the newbie zone!
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      Originally Posted by gabrielrala View Post

      we were all newbies, all the experts came from being newbies! no one can skip nor escape the newbie zone!
      EXACTLY! Hell, some "newbies" make a LOT more money, and twice as fast as some of the "experts" on here!

      What you do is your business, and no business is comparable to another, because they are all run with a different mind, personality, game plan, work ethic, etc.

      Success just comes to those who put in the work. It's up to them to choose what kind of work they are doing, and what it'll take for them to find their success!
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    I think there is and ALWAYS has been a group of people who lack a certain amount of Patience and really take it to a new level with the bashing of Newbies.

    Of course some restrained sarcasm is ALWAYS in order to tame the newbie who goes apesh@t with Post after Post after Post pretty much saying the same thing


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    • Profile picture of the author Nate92
      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      I think there is and ALWAYS has been a group of people who lack a certain amount of Patience and really take it to a new level with the bashing of Newbies.

      Of course some restrained sarcasm is ALWAYS in order to tame the newbie who goes apesh@t with Post after Post after Post pretty much saying the same thing


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      I agree 100% with you Discrat lol. There is always the problem of over posting...

      I think it's funny as well, that when I write a solid thread topic that starts getting a lot of views and interactions, seeing people steal my thread titles and using them for their "free info(sales) leads".

      But hey, what can you do, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    helping people/noobs is easy simply because their glass is so easy to fill. I understand that a lot of IMers yell "take action" because most noobs do nothing after they gather all of this knowledge.

    that being said, you need a battle of attack before you go into action......
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