What's The New BAN's Store Alternatives?

i prefer to use wordpress.

i like to write original material then add some ebay listings to the end

having thousands of templates and plugins is nice also

I'm a fan of the Wordbay plugin for Wordpress. It's free, super easy to use, works really well, and gives great presentation.

Check it out here: WordPress › WordBay WordPress Plugins

Hello Marky!

You know my feeling on this

Drupal! Drupal! Drupal! Drupal! Drupal! Drupal! Drupal! Drupal! Drupal!

Google loves it!

The BANS script is an arse to get google to like!!

Danny

It is funny how the whole issue with BANKS sites getting de-index and now everyone hates BANS. I still make money from my BANS sites. how much? Between $10 to $20 per month just from Bing love and yahoo...
not a lot.. but who cares, it takes 5 minutes to build.

I tried phpbay... but overall setting up a wp + theme.. takes longer

the easier thing to be safe, of not being de-index is WP with Ebay widgets... seems to work fine

Dumb question but what is a BAN's store?

Someone has an example to share?

Thanks,

Patrice

I tried BANS. I had no trouble with de-indexing, but I find PHPBay Pro with Wordpress much more flexible and easy to work with to create a well-rounded site.

@Patrice - BANS = Build a Niche Store. I don't have one up any more or I'd link it.

Hello,

My cars site in my sig is using phpbay and drupal

Danny

Guys regarding BANS let's consider this:
You buy a pre-owned domain name
you put your domain name in your reseller
Let say you invest $300 for 1 year of reseller. and you host 50 BANS sites....
ok, so we are talking that each bans site needs to generate $15 to $20 dollars per year to pay itself.

Will your BANS site will be de-index from Google?
YES.

So... who cares?
this is a $20 per year investment.

Will your make your money back?
Yes you will...
even if you don't make profit... you are breaking even.

The problem is when we expect to have 4-10 BANS sites and generate $1000 per month.

I have a SS (Store Stacker) site. Zero link Building. Seriously: ZERO
Why? I hate the software .... I hate installing it and I hate the way the sites looks (just me)... anyway... the site generated a $149 comission from EPN .

Done. I don't care if that site make every again one more sale.
Will I keep the domain name?
Hell yes.
Why not...
did google de-index the domain name....
Yep.
Should I care?
No
Because I just need 1 or 2 daily visitors from Yahoo/Bing searching for THAT product to be have the chance of having one sale.

BANS is a strategy to generate some easy money. but you can't really overthink things, just go out there, buy 100 .info domain names, setup 100 BANS sites and forget it.

Go back in one year and see how you have done and then take a second decision about the future of your BANKs network.

good luck

As far as I am concearned if you are going to spend the time researching a niche and be arsed to build 50 sites then you may aswell spend an extra day or so building it in wordpress that way you will earn more and well its a better roi

go ahead and leave it leave it for a decade and when you return you will see a lovely income!

I dont need to build 50 crappy thin sites to break even I can break even on my first month of a site going live and normally it will be in profit!! I also make a lovely living from just 10 sites that to be honest didnt take long to build and frankly with good keyword on and on page seo rank exceptionally well in both google and yahoo!

But best of all when you have all this sorted you are making a consistant income you can then diversify into many different niches knowing your mortgage is being paid and your bills are covered its amazing how much easier it is to make money when there is no pressure too.

So if you wanna bust your balls to break even follo wthe above method and watch ebay give you the boot as they will do eventually or you could spend a little more time and build a better site and give the user a better experience!

My online presense is about building a solid online business and have spent many years tweeking and testing I know have something that is a well oiled machine! I have used BANS as I have said before and you can make money but for the time and effort and the fact you know you wont come anywhere near with google just means you are leaving money on the table and to me that is bad business!!

Anyway thats my opinion so I dont mean to offend anybody

Last time I looked BANS was $97 or you can buy phpbay for $79 which is a lot more flexible and you can build a better site.

Good Luck

Danny

Hey Danny I just had a quick question for you if that's okay.

I was just taking a look at your cars site and I can definitely see you have some cool features going there that I wouldn't be able to produce with Wordbay.

I was just wondering, have you tried PHPbay with Wordpress also?

I'm just wondering if it's specifically the combination of PHPbay and Drupal that has given you the best results, or if the same results might be achievable on a Wordpress platform too. What do you think?

Hello,

I have not tried it with wordpress yet I am a little slow on teh uptake of Wordpress I have used WP on a couple of sites but because I know Drupal very well now I rather just use that.

However you can get some good results with the phpbay plugin for WP though its all about finding a good theme.

Finding a theme is the bain of my life at present however when you find a good theme your always onto a winner!

So in answer to your question I think you can get teh same results and maybe even better.

All the best

Danny

Very interesting, thanks heaps for you answer. I'm a theme designer myself so I'm all good on that count.

Hey I really appreciate your input! I was about to start making some ebay sites using Wordbay, but I'm changing up and going to run with PHPbay instead now. I can see the perks just from looking at your site.

So how do you think the new EPC format is going to effect your business? I think I'll miss those big commissions, but at the same time, getting paid for every click has its upsides as well.

Do you think you'll be better off when the change goes through?

Hello,

EPN is always adding new rules ect ect I have been looking at QCP and I am set to double my monthly income buts only going on last months figures.

However only time will tell, if it all goes tits up then I shall move on to the next affiliate program.

Only ebay has a clue what they are doing all I try and do is pass on good quality traffic!

Danny

@Kezz where abouts in ozzy are you? I am currently in cairns....lol

Danny

That's really interesting, and encouraging. I think our current revenue will increase too, which bodes really well for sites we have planned.

So you're in sunny QLD too! I'm in Hervey Bay.

Very interesting, thanks for pointing that out. So it seems then you really want to isolate sites on which you use these kinds of programs and start from the outset to target only Bing and Yahoo. That's good to know, as I was just toying with the idea of adding some of these kinds of listings to a site I have that is doing well in Google. I think I'll keep them in their own separate Yahoo / Bing box.

One thing I have had a lot of success with though, is going to Ebay and finding the most interesting and appealing product I can for the niche I'm targeting, ideally something that looks great, and then writing up a post about it with a big picture. I usually grab some pictures of the product and piece them together in to a bit of a montage, so that it's really eye catching. The CTR on these kinds of posts is really strong, and so is resulting conversion.

I might keep the "super interesting post" approach on sites where I'm targeting Google, and isolate any PHPbay sites I do to a Yahoo / Bing strategy.

Great food for thought, thanks!

Hello,

Jezz I was in Hervey Bay for a week we went to fraser island...very nice It was in Hervey Bay that some plank robbed my trainers...lol

Back on Topic.

I have not noticed my sites get de indexed in fact mine are moving up the search engines. I have old domains new domains ect ect and well with my drupal and phpbay combination I have not seen the effect.

I like the most interesting post thing but that will drop youe EPC if I read their guidlines right the only reall clicks you want know is the buying clicks!!

Well I have until october to rinse the old ebay pricing structure then when the new one jumps in We shall see but I am always will to change and often speak to their affiliate manager about things ect so I am confident that the money will continue to rise.

As far as google is concearned I will just keep build good sites thats all I can do

Danny