Are Female Marketers Smarter Than Male Marketers?

by giveusallfreedom 100 replies
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(at least it was until Paul Myers showed up. )

So I was reading the comments on Tiffany Dow's post http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketers.html and it occurred to me that majority of the replies were from female ghostwriters. Thinking back it occurs to me that most of the ghostwriters I've ever hired were female. So if you combine that with Tiffany's post about the great perk of being a ghostwriter, it made me wonder.

If most ghostwriters are women...

and

Ghostwriters have access to insider/paid training...

Would that mean that female marketers are better trained/smarter marketers than male marketers?


Just a Thought
#main internet marketing discussion forum #female #male #marketers #smarter
  • Profile picture of the author Andy Money
    Eh. Dangerous generalization. Plus I don't see too many IM guru's that are female, but what do I know? I ghostwrite!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      It's a venus = mars thingy

      It's a well known fact women can multitask and blokes can't. that gives us a big advantage over you before we even start lol
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      • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
        Oh no... now you've got me going Kim...

        I have to retract my earlier statement about not touching this thread.

        [tongue in cheek]

        Talking on the phone, while hoovering and holding a baby on your hip does not constitute multitasking.

        [removes tongue from cheek before it gets chopped off due to the impact of a right uppercut from every lady warrior]

        Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

        It's a venus = mars thingy

        It's a well known fact women can multitask and blokes can't. that gives us a big advantage over you before we even start lol
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        • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
          Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

          Oh no... now you've got me going Kim...

          I have to retract my earlier statement about not touching this thread.

          [tongue in cheek]

          Talking on the phone, while hoovering and holding a baby on your hip does not constitute multitasking.

          [removes tongue from cheek before it gets chopped off due to the impact of a right uppercut from every lady warrior]
          Ahh the thing is tho

          Can men

          hoover, hold the baby, speak on the phone, cook the lunch and answer their emails all at the same time lol
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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            Kim,
            hoover
            Roomba.
            hold the baby
            Roller seat.
            speak on the phone
            Speaker phone.
            cook the lunch
            Microwave.
            and answer their emails all at the same time lol
            Virtual assistant. In the mean time, we're out playing golf or watching the game.

            SNAP!


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            • Profile picture of the author thatgirlJ
              Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

              Kim,Roomba.Roller seat.Speaker phone.Microwave.Virtual assistant. In the mean time, we're out playing golf or watching the game.

              SNAP!


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              :p Good answer, lol
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
              Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

              Kim,Roomba.Roller seat.Speaker phone.Microwave.Virtual assistant. In the mean time, we're out playing golf or watching the game.

              SNAP!


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              Lucky *******. You divorced, Paul?

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              • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                Steve,
                Lucky *******. You divorced, Paul?
                Nope. Confirmed bachelor.

                No luck to it.


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                • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                  wait till we take over the planet
                  I thought we did that last week?

                  May be another good old generalization - but men seem to need to have others noticing what they are doing. Often women are happy just to cash the checks with a smile and avoid the spotlight.

                  Talking to my one brother a while ago we were joking about things we did as kids. One of the things that came up in conversation was that he always wanted someone watching what he did. At the swimming pool he'd stand on the low diving board shouting "look, Mom", "look at me", "watch me".

                  When I said "I never did that" - he pointed out (correctly) that I was usually on the high diving board intent on jumping before someone noticed and told me to get down:p

                  It's true there are more male names identified with the word "guru" - but also usually male names posting "my challenge - watch me go from $0-5000 a day in 30 days".... (watch me, Mom)

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                  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                    Kay,
                    May be another good old generalization - but men seem to need to have others noticing what they are doing.
                    That's part of the status thing.

                    What a lot of people call 'male ego' is just the desire for status. All of these tendencies arise from genetic programming associated with the drive for reproductive success, and the roles that gender plays in that.

                    Wait. Did I just take the fun out of the thread again?


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                    • Profile picture of the author Elmer Hurlstone
                      Would that mean that female marketers are better trained/smarter marketers than male marketers?
                      In response:

                      My momma didn't raise no fools!

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                      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                        Elmer,
                        My momma didn't raise no fools!
                        Apparently, judging from my comments in this thread, mine raised at least one.


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                        • Profile picture of the author reapr
                          I don't know I have a different take on it. We are a patriarchal society. That has not always been the case with all cultures and empires.

                          Women still make the majority of the family spending decisions and usually decides what gets spent on what. They seem to be tuned in to what needs to be bought. Men are the hunters they go out and get the prize. Women are the shoppers they decide what should be on the plate.

                          Then there is the ol' saying it takes a great woman to make a great man. If any of you actually follow history there seems to be truth to that.

                          That being said if there were as many women as men in IM there would probably be more women IM gurus!

                          It is not about smarts it is about roles that the genders have taken on over since the beginning of time.

                          Yes in some ways it is a generalization but I still refer to the majority.
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                          • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
                            From what I've seen just about everyone must be smarter than male marketers given the guru bashing you see in forum and sales letters.

                            I know for certain female marketers are smarter than me.

                            But then my wife is an ex rocket scientist.

                            I've become accustomed to females being smarter than me.

                            Kindest regards,
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                          • Profile picture of the author Kate Anderson
                            I don't think the gender is what makes either of us smarter, but the fact that being a ghostwriter simply means that you are constantly learning, researching and developing, and for the sake of your "job", you need to be on top of things and on your toes.

                            Our minds are always being challenged, and in a world such as online business, where things are consistently evolving and changing, being trained in a way that lets us digest the information quickly, (because after all, our time truly is money in ghostwriting), it gives us a bit of an edge I suppose.
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                          • Profile picture of the author IMChick
                            Chicks Rule!

                            I think it's an ego thing. I am happy to sit quietly in the background and make the real decisions (financial in my household and in my businesses) while the men are in the front lines and visible.

                            Male gurus have a necessary support system at home--significant other, child care, household help, etc--or they know how to outsource it. This immediately puts similarly placed women at a disadvantage. Because of dissimilar responsibilities in the same environment, the playing field is skewed in the male's favor. I learned this lesson the hard way while in law school-- while I was running around looking for the iron, ironing board and something clean to iron before breakfast, my male counterparts were already at school, fed and clothed appropriately, without the daily responsibility waiting for them outside of the classroom because it was taken care of elsewhere or by others. A great advantage, I must say.

                            A big thrill to find the women warriors here--I thought we were invisible!

                            She who has the most marbles at the end of the game, wins.
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                            • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                              Hi IMChick,
                              Male gurus have a necessary support system at home--significant other, child care, household help, etc--or they know how to outsource it. This immediately puts similarly placed women at a disadvantage.

                              Because of dissimilar responsibilities in the same environment, the playing field is skewed in the male's favor. I learned this lesson the hard way while in law school-- while I was running around looking for the iron, ironing board and something clean to iron before breakfast, my male counterparts were already at school, fed and clothed appropriately, without the daily responsibility waiting for them outside of the classroom because it was taken care of elsewhere or by others. A great advantage, I must say.
                              I hope this doesn't come across as too deep and serious (it's not meant to be, and I'd hate to be a fun thread-killer!) but I am confused.

                              Why do 'similarly placed women' have a disadvantage? Do they not have similar access to 'significant other, childcare and household help?' even if they happen to be a guru :confused:
                              or they know how to outsource it.
                              Don't you know how to outsource it? If not, who's fault is that?

                              She who has the most marbles at the end of the game, wins.
                              Now that I agree with. But from what I have seen, whether we're male OR female, by 'the end of the game' most of us will be a few marbles short of the full set. I think I left all of mine in the maternity ward a very long time ago...
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                          • Profile picture of the author Alice Seba
                            Originally Posted by reapr View Post

                            That being said if there were as many women as men in IM there would probably be more women IM gurus!
                            Just like a guy to think that there are more men in "IM". ;-)

                            The Warrior Forum is certainly male-dominated, but I believe there are statistics showing that women start their own businesses / home businesses more frequently than men. I've never located statistics about online business specifically, but I'm thinking you could draw some conclusions given the accessibility of creating an online presence.

                            But why there aren't there a bunch of female gurus as you noted? I'd refer to Tiffany and Paul's comments on that. In addition, we DO have women that are our teachers/gurus if you will. They just don't engage in all this puffery, hype, etc. as readily so men may not take notice. JMHO, of course.

                            Disclaimer: I guess I don't really know if you're a man or woman from your username, but just guessing.

                            To Kay That's very interesting. I only have one sister, so I couldn't compare how I was treated with a male sibling, but very telling. WOW!

                            Alice

                            P.S. I appreciated the humor in this post, but wanted to address something I see often (i.e. "more men in IM" likely myth).
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                          • Profile picture of the author grumpyjacksa
                            they say it takes a man to admit.......

                            but us guys have this tendency to get lost first and then ask for directions........

                            so while i was chasing my tail for almost two years, most normal women would have done back then what i am doing now. and probably established a good online presence by now.......

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            • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
              Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

              Kim,Roomba.Roller seat.Speaker phone.Microwave.Virtual assistant. In the mean time, we're out playing golf or watching the game.

              SNAP!


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              lol

              I bow to your superiority
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              • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                Women have to be smarter because somehow they get us to marry them

                And before you say anything, my wife is the greatest.

                "Yes dear, I'll take out the trash after dinner."
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Kim,
        It's a venus = mars thingy
        Hah!

        Men are from Texas. Women are from Connecticut.


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        • Profile picture of the author Rob D
          Dare I respond?

          I haven't read Tiff's original thread, but as a Male copywriter I can imagine what it is about. I have seen some of the biggest names in the industry's non-IM niches from the inside through my copywriting work and it's been enormously educational.

          As this thread seems to be about baiting the opposite sex let me have a go: If a male, copywriter or no, discovers an edge he will exploit it to it's fullest potential. Whereas if a women finds the secret to online success she will be completely unable to keep her mouth shut about it.

          **ducks for cover**
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Bestel
        Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

        It's a venus = mars thingy

        It's a well known fact women can multitask and blokes can't. that gives us a big advantage over you before we even start lol
        Got to disagree with you there Kim.

        Blokes can multi-task just as well as...

        ...damn! The phone's ringing...

        ...just as well as wom...

        ...what was I saying?
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      • Profile picture of the author RetireVerySoon
        Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

        It's a venus = mars thingy

        It's a well known fact women can multitask and blokes can't. that gives us a big advantage over you before we even start lol
        Quality over quanity my friend. Would you rather do 3 things poorly or one thing very well?
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        • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
          Originally Posted by RetireVerySoon View Post

          Quality over quanity my friend. Would you rather do 3 things poorly or one thing very well?
          ahh but we do everything well, that's the whole point of multitasking
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          • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
            Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

            ahh but we do everything well, that's the whole point of multitasking
            I've think i've read a study or research that indicates that multi-tasking can actually be less productive at times. They say focusing on one specific topic at a time can create better results. I personally don't like multi-tasking.. Its waaay more efficient to outsource the work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

    So I was reading the comments on Tiffany Dow's post http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketers.html and it occurred to me that majority of the replies were from female ghostwriters. Thinking back it occurs to me that most of the ghostwriters I've ever hired were female. So if you combine that with Tiffany's post about the great perk of being a ghostwriter, it made me wonder.

    If most ghostwriters are women...

    and

    Ghostwriters have access to insider/paid training...

    Would that mean that female marketers are better trained/smarter marketers than male marketers?


    Just a Thought
    LOL

    There is no way I'm getting into this one.

    I will say that I am a ghostwriter. I was going to respond to the thread in question, but decided not to because it would have been nothing more than a "me too" response.

    Out if curiosity, are you serious? Or are you just trying to stir things up?

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    • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
      I wouldn't touch this topic with yours...
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      • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
        LOL.

        To put it bluntly - me neither.

        Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

        I wouldn't touch this topic with yours...
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      • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
        Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

        I wouldn't touch this topic with yours...
        LOL wow I will say this...the women must carry bigger sticks around here, because you guys really seem nervous.

        OK time to edit my post and include a heading that this is for Entertainment Purposes Only
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Female marketers are not even smarter...they're prettier too.

          That's why my wife is REALLY the brains behind THIS man's success.
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          • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            Female marketers are not even smarter...they're prettier too.

            That's why my wife is REALLY the brains behind THIS man's success.
            See now that's what I like to see. A man that's not afraid to throw out an opinion. Thanks Steve.
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        • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
          Dude,

          I have the balls to discuss anything and everything - of importance...
          but, this discussion doesn't have a conclusion...

          It's the same as:

          Are men better cooks? There are more male chefs
          Are men better drivers? There are more male F1 drivers (all of them)

          Is an answer going to help anyone?

          Methinks not...

          Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

          LOL wow I will say this...the women must carry bigger sticks around here, because you guys really seem nervous.

          OK time to edit my post and include a heading that this is for Entertainment Purposes Only
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
            Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

            Dude,

            I have the balls to discuss anything and everything - of importance...
            but, this discussion doesn't have a conclusion...

            It's the same as:

            Are men better cooks? There are more male chefs
            Are men better drivers? There are more male F1 drivers (all of them)

            Is an answer going to help anyone?

            Methinks not...
            OT...but Karl...

            Did your eponymously named thread inspire you to get a professionally photographed avatar?

            "The camera loves you, Karl. <snap> Smile...think sexy...<snap> That's it. <snap>"



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    • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      LOL

      There is no way I'm getting into this one.

      I will say that I am a ghostwriter. I was going to respond to the thread in question, but decided not to because it would have been nothing more than a "me too" response.

      Out if curiosity, are you serious? Or are you just trying to stir things up?

      ~Michael
      SERIOUS?

      Oh heck no. I agree with Mr. Sleep and the whole not to many female gurus. That thought had occurred to me.

      But really I just thought it would be a fun discussion.

      I really expected the first posts to be from the women's side saying heck we're smarter.

      Would I say one or the other is smarter? NO I've met all kinds of stupid and smart people in my life and sex had nothing to do with either.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

        SERIOUS?

        Oh heck no. I agree with Mr. Sleep and the whole not to many female gurus. That thought had occurred to me.

        But really I just thought it would be a fun discussion.

        I really expected the first posts to be from the women's side saying heck we're smarter.

        Would I say one or the other is smarter? NO I've met all kinds of stupid and smart people in my life and sex had nothing to do with either.
        No problem, that's what I was hoping.

        In that case...

        As to who's smarter, women or men, marketingwise? I will give an unqualified YES!

        Hope that clears up my position.



        ~Michael

        p.s. Karl, I was kind of thinking the same thing, though. I don't see the value of a post like this. BUT maybe some insights will be gleaned from everyone's different styles. Just a thought.
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        • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
          Steve F - lol, that's all my girlfriend's work, I needed a decent photo for a caricature I'm having done and came across that one that she took of me... and thought, oooooh, I know, I'll look a bit happier in WF.

          Michael O - I'm pretty sure there will be some interesting views on the matter expressed
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
            Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

            Steve F - lol, that's all my girlfriend's work, I needed a decent photo for a caricature I'm having done and came across that one that she took of me... and thought, oooooh, I know, I'll look a bit happier in WF
            Well, it worked.

            BTW, I can't answer the OP's question until my wife gets home...

            ...she makes all the decisions.

            Cheers,
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            • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
              I will say something in response to Mary's post...

              My girlfriend is part of my motivation in regard to earnings and quality of life. While she has no interest in IM or design, she is certainly interested in being able to spend time with me without the financial burden of debt or minimum wages.

              Despite that, there are times that the poor lass has to put up with me putting in some LOOOOOOONG hours.

              [edit]

              In response to Peter... how about:

              Michelle Filsaime
              Joanne Reese
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              • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
                Hey Peter,

                I can't see why not? Women often use a man's penname.


                Hey Karl,

                Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

                I will say something in response to Mary's post...

                My girlfriend is part of my motivation in regard to earnings and quality of life. While she has no interest in IM or design, she is certainly interested in being able to spend time with me without the financial burden of debt or minimum wages.

                Despite that, there are times that the poor lass has to put up with me putting in some LOOOOOOONG hours.

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                In response to Peter... how about:

                Michelle Filsaime
                Joanne Reese
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                Aw... that's sweet Karl.

                To tell you the truth, my bf is the same way. To me, it's a two way street. I know when I'm tied up for hrs, he seems to be left out in the cold. The same is true when he is working offline for hrs at a time.

                Lol, to me I don't understand how each side put ups with it. I guess there's always a balance with everything.


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          • Profile picture of the author Peter Bestel
            If it's perceived that a female marketer is smarter, maybe that's a good enough reason to create a female pen name when purporting to be an expert in IM?

            Just a thought!

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  • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
    One weird thing I know is that most female marketers making it big moneywise don't promote their names like the gurus we see today. I know of a few, of course, but I've talked to many women marketers who either dont feel the need to have the fame and glory or are too intimidated by it.

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    • Profile picture of the author nursewriter
      Tiff,

      You are right....I have no desire to be famous and have my name plastered all over the Internet but I do want to insanely wealthy.

      So I am content to sit quietly at my keyboard and make money.


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    • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
      giveusallfreedom,

      Oh boy ... you know Karl is right about there not being any conclusion right?

      This being said umm ... I would say as a female I do things different than some men. It's not that either sex is smarter or does better at things. It's simply that we do things differently.

      Titff is right, most women don't find a need for fame and glory.

      Now I don't know about being intimidated because I've never felt that way around the men. But, I'm sure some do, but I also see the flip side in this sistuation where some men may feel intimidated or insecure if they are around successful women.

      The same is true around women that speak with authority. It seems to be easier to hear a man do so, and not a women. But then again, society has dictated this for centuries. Women have only been let out of the box in the last hundred years or so, but mainly here in the last few decades. This isn't to say that there haven't been women in business or anything else over the centuries because there have been very famous women in every century.

      Lol we just do things differently.

      I know I'm one that doesn't look for fame, but quietly make my fill. I consider myself successful offline, and on.

      Do I ever feel left out of the "good ole boy's" club? Na, not at all.

      Having stated some of these things, I would also say we do a ton of things that are the same too.


      For you guys that were smart enough not to jump in with both feet here, I commend you. To me that's smart thinking.

      Btw, something just occured to me while writing this post.

      People have always said that behind every good man is a great women.

      Well, women know too that behind every good women there is a great man.

      It's all about perspective, and where you see yourself and others in the scope of things. Prejudices play a huge part in what we see as reality.

      All the best ...


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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
    Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

    DISCLAIMER: THIS IS FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY

    So I was reading the comments on Tiffany Dow's post http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketers.html and it occurred to me that majority of the replies were from female ghostwriters. Thinking back it occurs to me that most of the ghostwriters I've ever hired were female. So if you combine that with Tiffany's post about the great perk of being a ghostwriter, it made me wonder.

    If most ghostwriters are women...

    and

    Ghostwriters have access to insider/paid training...

    Would that mean that female marketers are better trained/smarter marketers than male marketers?


    Just a Thought


    Yes and that is why I have a Girls name :p


    Shannon (the smart guy because of the girls name) Herod
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    • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
      Originally Posted by Shannon Herod View Post

      Yes and that is why I have a Girls name :p


      Shannon (the smart guy because of the girls name) Herod
      LMAO!!!!! and that's why I make posts like this! :p
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      • Profile picture of the author KenJ
        My wife tells me that I am a very good internet marketer and has given me permission to pass this critical info on to you all

        Hey Girls - you are the business!!
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Depends.

          I realize that the post was for entertainment, but there are real answers to it. Keep in mind that they're generalizations. There are plenty of exceptions, some of them extreme.

          If you're talking emotional intelligence... Hell yeah. They average way smarter on that scale than men. They are also substantially more likely to maintain balance between work and family/social activities.

          On the linear intelligence scale, meaning logic and analysis, men tend to have an advantage. We also tend to be better at understanding "structures" in non-social systems.

          As for why men seem to be more visible as 'gurus,' that's easy. And it's not imagined: The drive for status. That's also why men are more likely to be empire builders.

          Mind you, these differences are more a function of preference and execution than of capability.


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    Janet Switzer

    - enough said
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    • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
      Originally Posted by webrunner View Post

      Janet Switzer

      - enough said
      My first response was huh?

      I was going to leave it at that and then decided...that's what Google's for.

      Found this

      Janet Switzer helps experts build empires

      Works form me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rupps
        giveusallfreedom and mmurtha,

        All I meant was to give an example of one of the most successful persons in Internet marketing is a female.

        I realized many do not know Janet, but you should as she is behind some of the greatest empires in marketing history. Ever hear of "Chicken Soup for the Soul".

        She is a heavyweight. When she talks I listen.



        Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

        My first response was huh?

        I was going to leave it at that and then decided...that's what Google's for.

        Found this

        Janet Switzer helps experts build empires

        Works form me.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Hey webrunner,

    I don't think Paul meant that only men build empires.

    He said
    That's also why men are more likely to be empire builders.
    Or did you mean something else?

    I know there are women who built empires - Not just in this age, but throughout history. They are few and far between though compared to the men.


    Paul
    Mind you, these differences are more a function of preference and execution than of capability.
    Glad you wrote this statement.

    Shannon,

    ROTFLMBO!


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  • Profile picture of the author SusanUSA
    I wonder what Oprah, Martha Stewart, Susie Orman, Mary Kay Ash, Coco Chanel, Gloria Vanderbelt, Elizabeth Ardin, Debbie Fields, Kathanie Graham, Estee Lauder, or other female marketers would have to say about "not too many female gurus?"

    Maybe they would be too busy polishing the glass ceiling . . .
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Well of course

    Most of the stuff is still behind the scenes, but wait till we take over the planet
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  • Profile picture of the author Glenn Newsome
    Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

    DISCLAIMER: THIS IS FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY
    (at least it was until Paul Myers showed up. )

    So I was reading the comments on Tiffany Dow's post

    If most ghostwriters are women...

    and

    Ghostwriters have access to insider/paid training...

    Would that mean that female marketers are better trained/smarter marketers than male marketers?


    Just a Thought
    It's because they have more personalities than us!-- A different job for each one--
    That's why they just call themselves ghostwriters--they can't decide which name to use

    Ducking now!
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    • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
      Do you really need to ask the question?

      Yes, smarter because we don't have to tell everyone how brilliant we are, and we are also smarter because we know how to use the information gleaned from ghostwriting and then put it into practice.
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      • Profile picture of the author reapr
        Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

        Do you really need to ask the question?

        Yes, smarter because we don't have to tell everyone how brilliant we are, and we are also smarter because we know how to use the information gleaned from ghostwriting and then put it into practice.
        Ok you win! The next life ... I will be female.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rachel Goodchild
          Originally Posted by davebo View Post

          Somebody sounds jealous. I guess it's out of the question to think that males are just more successful based on what they've done and what they have to teach. THe cream always rises to the top.
          The cream DOES always rise to the top. I agree. However, sometimes the creamprefers not to shout about it- or identify itself as cream
          Also women tend to identify themselves under several different job descriptions- entrepreneur, business owner, wife, mother...
          whereas men often focus on the first two- and the last two are almost as an aside.
          This means women will market their success differently

          Of course, once again, there are always exceptions...
          But I would say that saying men are "More successful" is problematic in it's accuracy.
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            • Profile picture of the author Rachel Goodchild
              Originally Posted by davebo View Post

              Your above post makes no sense. Women identify themselves under different job descriptions? What does that have to do with the question? You think because a man doesn't proclaim to hold a job as "Husband" or "Father" then that means he isn't one?
              Not at all
              What it does mean is that even very successful women will underplaytheir business success simply because thier first point of identity is inverted a man's

              Youhear less about extraordinarily successful women- doesn't mean they aren't about
              Your post smacked of ignorance of this.
              Whilst Bev's was just tongue and cheek.
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            • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
              Originally Posted by davebo View Post

              Your above post makes no sense. Women identify themselves under different job descriptions? What does that have to do with the question? You think because a man doesn't proclaim to hold a job as "Husband" or "Father" then that means he isn't one?
              Quite the opposite. There are many proud fathers and husbands, but when you ask a man what his job is the most common response you will get is that he is "insert profession here"; whereas when you ask a female, it is more often a mother, a wife and a "insert profession here".

              As for the original poster. I wouldn't say either gender is smarter. Like someone else said behind every good man is a women and likewise behind every good woman is a man. In today's day and age, we often would get no where without the support of our spouses and those around us.

              I don't think any gender comes out on top, I think it is often perceived that males are because they are the ones who are more portrayed by media as being smarter and more successful, but you can open a whole new thread alone on what success and smarts are as well. Everyone will have their own goal posts of what makes a person smart and what makes a person successful.

              Just my two cents.

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            • Profile picture of the author marcanthony
              Absolutely not!

              Men are smart enough to hire women to do our work for us.

              Then after the work is done, men take all of the credit.

              So, men are smart enough to know that women are just as smart.

              Conclusion: male and female marketers are equally smart.

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    • Profile picture of the author Chris W. Sutton
      She who has the most marbles at the end of the game, wins.
      This may be true but what if they have LOST their marbles? Does the game go on?
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      • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
        Originally Posted by Chris W. Sutton View Post

        This may be true but what if they have LOST their marbles? Does the game go on?
        You know Chris, you can be real profound lol

        Ok lets look at this discussion from a female point of view, (and see who is the most sneaky)

        I have an idea, (a good idea), and I want hubby on board with it. Thing is I'm not sure how he will receive it.

        So I start planting ideas etc in his head, (ever so casually), and the next thing we know he's telling me he's had this fabulous idea, and what do I think about it.

        I tell him how wonderful he is etc, :rolleyes: and we're all happy (I got my whatever it was I wanted, who cares who's idea it was in the first place). Been doin it for 30+ years, and he still doesn't realise (bless him).

        I didn't realise how much I did it, till my previous partner cottoned on to me doing it to him, (Took him a while, and he found it amusing thank goodness).

        I'm not quite sure where I'm going with this, but I guess the point of the story is, there just could be a number of "male" guru's out there who might just be getting prodded by their better half, and don't even realise it

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        • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
          Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

          You know Chris, you can be real profound lol

          Ok lets look at this discussion from a female point of view, (and see who is the most sneaky)

          I have an idea, (a good idea), and I want hubby on board with it. Thing is I'm not sure how he will receive it.

          So I start planting ideas etc in his head, (ever so casually), and the next thing we know he's telling me he's had this fabulous idea, and what do I think about it.

          I tell him how wonderful he is etc, :rolleyes: and we're all happy (I got my whatever it was I wanted, who cares who's idea it was in the first place). Been doin it for 30+ years, and he still doesn't realise (bless him).

          I didn't realise how much I did it, till my previous partner cottoned on to me doing it to him, (Took him a while, and he found it amusing thank goodness).

          I'm not quite sure where I'm going with this, but I guess the point of the story is, there just could be a number of "male" guru's out there who might just be getting prodded by their better half, and don't even realise it

          Kim
          LMAO. Great story Kim!

          I would have to agree that most men are much more blatant in their efforts whether they be marketing or otherwise.

          This thread has really made me start thinking, which is ironic considering I meant it completely as joke.

          I'd like to see a product created by a bunch of female marketers. Not purely for the female point of view, because I think we've established that it doesn't really matter if you male or female as long as you're ideas are good.

          However, I think based on this discussion that a group of women working together could put together a really great course that offered a completely alternative way of marketing from most of the products out there. Kim your story is just one example. There could be a whole section on planting the idea in the prospect head before even making the offer. The same could be done for JVs.

          Just a thought.
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          • Profile picture of the author Najat Engineer
            Even if Male marketers were smarter!!

            AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WILL SPEND ALL THEIR HARD MONEY IN COLD BLOOD :p

            God bless my husband =)
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            • Profile picture of the author ExRat
              Hi G.U.A.F,

              However, I think based on this discussion that a group of women working together could put together a really great course that offered a completely alternative way of marketing from most of the products out there.
              Ahem, did you really say -

              a group of women working together
              Back to the drawing board...
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              • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
                Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

                Hi G.U.A.F,

                Back to the drawing board...
                LMAO

                OK I maybe I was asking a bit much...

                You know though, that's a good point. I see a lot of men getting involved in the JV bonanza, but I rarely if ever see any women. Hmmm...

                I'm not really sure what to make of that if anything, except that maybe I should get on more female's mailing list, so that I can get something other than 1,000 JV offers in my email box.
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    • Profile picture of the author Darrell Hagan
      I'd have to say that most marketers, male or female, are probably smarter than I am. But its fact that alot of my good ideas really come from my lovely wife and I give her due credit too .
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  • Profile picture of the author ExRat
    Hi,

    There's some great stuff in this thread to pick up on and play around with...

    Giveusallfreedom,

    NO I've met all kinds of stupid and smart people in my life and sex had nothing to do with either.
    There are simply TOO MANY one-liners that could be concocted from that one so I'm not even going to start...

    Mary,

    To tell you the truth, my bf is the same way. To me, it's a two way street. I know when I'm tied up for hrs, he seems to be left out in the cold.
    Ooh, I say!

    Webrunner,

    I realized many do not know Janet, but you should as she is behind some of the greatest empires in marketing history. Ever hear of "Chicken Soup for the Soul".

    She is a heavyweight. When she talks I listen.
    I always try to steer clear of calling a woman a 'heavyweight' - even when it's high compliment!

    Davebo,
    I don't know of any female gurus that I follow. Not that I haven't heard any, but they just don't really provide much expertise.
    Somebody sounds jealous. I guess it's out of the question to think that males are just more successful based on what they've done and what they have to teach. THe cream always rises to the top.
    Your above post makes no sense. Women identify themselves under different job descriptions? What does that have to do with the question? You think because a man doesn't proclaim to hold a job as "Husband" or "Father" then that means he isn't one?
    Paul - you were wrong. It was Davebo that took the fun out of the thread - because he single-handedly just lost the argument for us.
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    • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
      Roger

      LMAO great points. Especially the last one. I was reading that and just skipped that whole part of the discussion.

      That's the problem with generalizations. It winds up getting you lumped in with that guy.
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  • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
    Originally Posted by Vladislav Rozhdestvensky View Post

    No not smarter
    OMG I got invaded by PORN SPAM. Rollover his signature and check out the URL. AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

    That seals the deal. That is like the defining argument that women are smarter than men!!!

    It was probably a guy that sent the spam, it was a not so clever attempt to conceal the spam, and it is targeted at men...(I assuming porn is generally targeted men here if this is another generalization that I'm way of on just ignore, because that will take this conversation into a whole other realm beyond where the scope of this forum)...that the spammer clearly thinks are so stupid that they will simply click on the porn and be like "Oh... -> :rolleyes: -> ->
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  • Profile picture of the author travelbizcash
    As a work-from-home Mom (with lipstick, Sarah fan here)
    I don't think men are any smarter than women (surprise, surprise)
    BUT I have been the recepient of some very good marketing ideas and tips from BOTH MEN and WOMEN!
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  • Profile picture of the author Fabian Tan
    Well, one can't win with this discussion.

    If you say females are smarter, you would be accused of being sexist.

    If you say males are smarter, you would be accused of being sexist.

    I once read a report that 75% of millionaires in the world are male, so does that tell something? Maybe, maybe not. The reality is that society is still 'sexist' and still give women less opportunities to shine than men although it is getting better.

    On the other hand, girls are doing better in schools these days.

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris W. Sutton
    Hah!

    Men are from Texas. Women are from Connecticut.


    Paul
    Now THERE is a man who knows what he is talking about! I have no clue about the Connecticut part but I DO know that men are from Texas. Need proof? Just take a gander at me... nothing more be said!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alice Seba
      Originally Posted by Chris W. Sutton View Post

      Now THERE is a man who knows what he is talking about! I have no clue about the Connecticut part but I DO know that men are from Texas. Need proof? Just take a gander at me... nothing more be said!
      And you are pleased with being from a state with nothing, but men? Hmmm...the plot thickens.

      Not that there's anything wrong with it! ;-)

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  • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
    I think if most women are ghostwriters, maybe they wouldn't be good marketers? Don't ghostwriters just write for other people and the person that hires them does the marketing?

    Maybe im confused, but I don't follow how the majority of female writers could mean females are better at marketing when writing is only a small fraction of the marketing process?

    Just because you can create content doesn't mean you are a good marketer. Maybe this is just too much of a generalization?
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  • Profile picture of the author BobbyWalker
    I'm sure there are many female marketers
    that could blow the doors off male marketers
    but they must be in hiding...

    I can only name a handful that I know of
    that are doing serious money.

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    of course, I thought everybody knew that
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  • Whew boy, I'm going to try my luck, and probably upset quite a few people.

    I'm not sexist. I'm also not very old (21). I haven't been married, although some consider me a bit of a ladies man. I'm a momma's boy, and raised by a single mom. I know several female marketers, but a lot more guys.

    From what I've experienced in life in general:

    Women are SLIGHTLY better multi taskers, on average from what I've seen. The margin is relatively slim in my opinion.

    Men are more motivated by competition, and like John said earlier, status. Men I think are more likely to try and out do someone, or achieve something purely for display to others in the same field. Go to a real competitive sales floor, and see how the guys interact, or just a sports bar on monday night. I rarely see that kind of behavior between women.

    Women are more likely to finish one thing, and then move on. As much as common media portrays women as giving up something quickly, I haven't seen it as much in IM. A lot of coaching programs i've been involved with generally notice that the women as a whole are more step by step, and likely to see things to the end. They may move slower because of it, but they are more thorough.

    Men seem more extreme with the risk taking. In my experience, men will either take pretty big risks, or none. A lot of guys won't do something that might net them an extra $10 a week, when they could be risking more on something that would add $100 a week. It seems women are more willing to take those smaller payouts, but in my experiences, not those huge risks.

    Women are usually more patient, and understanding. They don't have that "cold business" side that a lot of guys have. I learned that in my stint with telephone sales. I'd much rather talk to a woman if she's the decision maker, they are usually more open to ideas, more patient, and often, easier to sell to. You can take that as a good or a bad thing.

    I know lots of girls that have developed small lists, and continue to market to them, even though they don't grow quickly. I know a ton more guys, and am myself like this, in that I would rather just ditch the damn thing and try something that would move faster.

    Women in my opinion are more likely to break down from stress or emotions. It's just science, they respond differently to emotions and hormones than guys do. They do seem to aquire more resolve when they get back up though.

    I'm starting to ramble.

    I think of it like this: imagine both sex's built a house from scratch. Odd's are the guy's house would be bigger, have more gadgets in side it, and would be there to prove to the neighbor that he's better. The women, simply put, would build a house that would be suited to other people. You'd probably want to hang out there more, it'd be more comfortable and inviting.

    And smell better.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Christopher,

      I'm nearly twice your age. I don't disagree with most of your analysis, but there are a few things that I probably would have agreed with you about, twenty years ago. And then I learnt different.
      Men are more motivated by competition, and like John said earlier, status. Men I think are more likely to try and out do someone, or achieve something purely for display to others in the same field. Go to a real competitive sales floor, and see how the guys interact, or just a sports bar on monday night. I rarely see that kind of behavior between women.
      In this area, women are smarter. That's why you don't always see it - but believe me, it's there.

      The difference is that they don't make a show of it, therefore it's much more effective.

      Also, when you observe the the male sales floor, it's just a jostling for position in the pecking order, which often has no real merit - just 'bragging rights'.

      Again, this is where females are smarter and more effective. They won't waste time competing over trivialities. But when they set their sights on the target, you'd better get out of the way - those nails are sharp.

      Women in my opinion are more likely to break down from stress or emotions.
      Yes, in terms of 'breaking down' - IE - visibly sobbing. But it's not always entirely genuine and usually doesn't have long lasting effects. When it comes to actually crippling yourself through stress and emotions long term, then men are the masters.

      They don't have that "cold business" side that a lot of guys have.
      On the surface, perhaps they don't. But where it matters, they most definitely do. If we gave them the slightest chance, they would take over the world and put us all to the sword and replace us with subservient robots without flinching.

      Don't believe me? You'll find out my friend, all in good time.

      Our strength comes from being aware of our weaknesses, understanding 'the game' and adopting a life strategy that is built around those strengths and weaknesses.

      At 21, you are not required to know these things and do these things. But don't rest on your laurels. Time passes quickly and the lessons come quick and fast. And women learn quicky because they have to - they have the ability to bear children at a young age.

      Men always have an egotistical reason. Women always have a plan, and often have an alterior motive. This is not to say that they are bad - but I think it's fair to say that they are not as prone to 'not seeing the wood for the trees' - where the trees are the ego and the wood is the goal.

      Just my opinion, using a few generalizations through necessity.
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          Hi Davebo,

          Exrat, you used to be somewhat of a maverick....now you're just a butt-kisser. So sad. The sign of someone who relies on the WF for business.
          Thanks

          I'd love to know of any business that I have gained through the WF. Care to elaborate?

          I often change my viewpoint, my approach and my attitude - especially when I feel that it needs improvement and that I'm capable of doing that - it's called progression.

          But I still speak my mind, believe in what I say and try to be honest.

          Perhaps the nature of some of my recent posts doesn't agree with you? If so, perhaps it would be more productive to engage in some kind of debate where you can prove me to be incorrect, or anything else you'd like to prove?

          What I see is that I was nice to some people that helped me in a small way and at least one of them was someone who you attack at any opportunity. I don't know the reasons for that and don't care to know.

          But I'm up for the discussion.

          But as for the accusations, they're water off a duck's back. As I said, at this time I earn nothing from being here.

          And as for butt kissing, well just because I dared to say a few things that suggest that women have more ability than men, you appear to be proving my point about ego.

          But the edge is still there and I see no butt kissing.

          Prove me wrong. If not, good day to you my friend
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          • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
            Hi Roger,

            Or is it butt kisser now lol???

            Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

            Hi Davebo,

            Thanks

            I'd love to know of any business that I have gained through the WF. Care to elaborate?

            I often change my viewpoint, my approach and my attitude - especially when I feel that it needs improvement and that I'm capable of doing that - it's called progression.

            But I still speak my mind, believe in what I say and try to be honest.

            Perhaps the nature of some of my recent posts doesn't agree with you? If so, perhaps it would be more productive to engage in some kind of debate where you can prove me to be incorrect, or anything else you'd like to prove?

            What I see is that I was nice to some people that helped me in a small way and at least one of them was someone who you attack at any opportunity. I don't know the reasons for that and don't care to know.

            But I'm up for the discussion.

            But as for the accusations, they're water off a duck's back. As I said, at this time I earn nothing from being here.

            And as for butt kissing, well just because I dared to say a few things that suggest that women have more ability than men, you appear to be proving my point about ego.

            But the edge is still there and I see no butt kissing.

            Prove me wrong. If not, good day to you my friend
            I thought your response was right on the money buddy!

            I find that you always speak your mind. But then again, you don't know how to do otherwise!

            The really problem with people like Davebo is that they can't figure out that time often improves wisdom. Not always mind you, but with people like you, that learn to grow and adjust.

            As far as this comment goes ...
            Roger wrote:

            Mary,


            Quote:
            To tell you the truth, my bf is the same way. To me, it's a two way street. I know when I'm tied up for hrs, he seems to be left out in the cold.
            Ooh, I say!
            Lol, better watch it!

            Yeah I know, some digress too. :p

            This turned out to be a good thread guys!


            Paul,
            If two guys get into a fight in a bar, the outcome is predictable, as long as they both play by the rules. Regardless of who "wins," they're going to pick each other up, buy each other beers, and be friends ever after.

            If two women get into an argument and one of them slaps the other, or uses one of the deadly female insults, it will likely be years before they speak to each other again, if ever.


            Why?

            Think about it.


            Paul
            That's because women know how to hold a grudge.

            But then again, they also cut off valueable relationships, dismissing all future dealings with people they begrudge.


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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          now you're just a butt-kisser.
          ROGER? A butt-kisser?

          Now THAT is funny.


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          • Profile picture of the author ExRat
            Hi Paul,
            If two women get into an argument and one of them slaps the other, or uses one of the deadly female insults, it will likely be years before they speak to each other again, if ever.
            Because they broke 'the code', in front of the common 'enemy'?
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by davebo View Post

          Exrat, you used to be somewhat of a maverick....now you're just a butt-kisser. So sad. The sign of someone who relies on the WF for business.
          Hey Dave, you ever have anything nice to say? :rolleyes:

          As for Roger being a butt kisser, that's a laugh.

          Roger will say something nice to me one minute for something I said and
          tell me I'm flat out wrong the next for something else I said. He does NOT
          mince his words, and I appreciate him for that because I know I'm always
          going to get it straight from him.

          As for earning his living off the WF, for crying out loud, the guy's got goofy
          David Lee Roth quotes in his sig. I mean, how's THAT going to earn him
          anything other than a lot of dudes like me poking fun at him?

          Sorry Rog. Couldn't resist.

          Yeah, Roger makes his living off the WF. That's a real joke.

          Oh, and in case you're thinking of coming back at me with some of your
          venom, don't waste your time. I've stopped listening to your insults of me
          a long time ago.
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  • Sigh the few things I was hoping to lord over the women folk as I got older aren't true.

    I'm surprised that I didn't mention the ability to hide emotions and intentions as well (if not better) than their ability to express it.

    I suspect maybe Davebo thought you were going to systemically tear my opinions apart, which, I guess only proves one of my points, because I was totally ready to get in a heated argument
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    Money isn't real, George. It doesn't matter. It only seems like it does.

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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Christopher,

    If you don't think women are as bloodily competitive as men, you're in for a nasty surprise. They just go about it differently, and for different end results.

    Note, for those who're looking for an argument: Different does not mean better or worse. It means different. Both sides of each example given below make perfect sense.

    Rather than addressing each point one at a time, let me give you some observations I've made over the years, and ask you to consider them. They're nearly universally true, at least in the US, Mexico and Canada, which means they carry significant messages for people in those cultures.

    They're also very important to understand.

    The first: The thing women like most about men is that we all tend to be 17 at heart. The thing women dislike most about men is that we all tend to be 17 at heart.

    That one's pretty straight forward. This next one has a lot more implications than you'd think on the surface.

    Whenever a woman tells me that women are more mature than men, I offer this thought:

    If two guys get into a fight in a bar, the outcome is predictable, as long as they both play by the rules. Regardless of who "wins," they're going to pick each other up, buy each other beers, and be friends ever after.

    If two women get into an argument and one of them slaps the other, or uses one of the deadly female insults, it will likely be years before they speak to each other again, if ever.


    Why?

    Think about it.


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  • I gotta tell you Paul I have a couple of theories but none of them seem to strong.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    I'm loving this thread lol

    I like the points, Chris, Roger and Paul made, and I think you're all right to a more or lesser degree.

    Christopher you are very astute for one so young, (and I don't mean that in a patronising way)

    Even tho I'm as sharp as a tack (even tho I do say it myself) I don't have a problem playing the silly woman when it suits me. I've wriggled out of speeding tickets and all sorts of stuff using that tactic, A trembling lip and tearful eyes works wonders on most blokes.

    In my offline job I hate writing reports, so I just need to bat a couple of eyelashes at my (male) colleague, sigh how hard they are and there they are all neatly done for me!

    Guys I hate to tell you this, we've been pulling you around by your dangly bits since Adam and Eve (you just don't realise it)

    Kim
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      I'm loving this thread lol

      I like the points, Chris, Roger and Paul made, and I think you're all right to a more or lesser degree.

      Christopher you are very astute for one so young, (and I don't mean that in a patronising way)

      Even tho I'm as sharp as a tack (even tho I do say it myself) I don't have a problem playing the silly woman when it suits me. I've wriggled out of speeding tickets and all sorts of stuff using that tactic, A trembling lip and tearful eyes works wonders on most blokes.

      In my offline job I hate writing reports, so I just need to bat a couple of eyelashes at my (male) colleague, sigh how hard they are and there they are all neatly done for me!

      Guys I hate to tell you this, we've been pulling you around by your dangly bits since Adam and Eve (you just don't realise it)

      Kim

      Kim, you're my kind of gal.
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      • Profile picture of the author Elmer Hurlstone
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post


        Originally Posted by Kim Standerline
        I'm loving this thread lol

        I like the points, Chris, Roger and Paul made, and I think you're all right to a more or lesser degree.

        Christopher you are very astute for one so young, (and I don't mean that in a patronising way)

        Even tho I'm as sharp as a tack (even tho I do say it myself) I don't have a problem playing the silly woman when it suits me. I've wriggled out of speeding tickets and all sorts of stuff using that tactic, A trembling lip and tearful eyes works wonders on most blokes.

        In my offline job I hate writing reports, so I just need to bat a couple of eyelashes at my (male) colleague, sigh how hard they are and there they are all neatly done for me!

        Guys I hate to tell you this, we've been pulling you around by your dangly bits since Adam and Eve (you just don't realise it)

        Kim
        Kim, you're my kind of gal.
        Firstly, I concur with Steven.

        Secondly, Yes, Kim, I--and most other guys if they're honest with themselves--realize it.

        WE LIKE IT!

        It must be working as the human race--even our minute marketing part of it--continues to grow.

        Elmer
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  • Profile picture of the author Curt Dillion
    I don’t usually get into these things, but I’ve decided to enter into this fray.

    From attending many Mensa meetings, I can unequivocally say that neither sex has a monopoly on intelligence. It’s pretty much 50/50. Your personal gene pool has a lot to do with it.

    Hormones make the biggest difference between the sexes. Testosterone in men, and estrogen in women.

    Testosterone seems to cause runaway egos, which is why men seem to need more attention. The more we have the worse it gets. It’s not always a pretty thing, but it does create drive and fighters. Estrogen is more mellowing, and allows better access to emotions and intuition, which seems to be very important in dealing with other people. A big dose of either hormone into the opposite sex causes an about face, and demonstrates the validity of how these work.

    As a note for those who don’t know:
    Intuition is feeling that is calm. (I've got a feeling about this.)
    Emotion is feeling that is agitated.

    It’s not “women’s intuition.” We all have it, and tapping into it opens a whole new dimension in our consciousness. I’ve been doing meditation for nearly 40 years, and I’ve experienced what I’m talking about on numerous occasions. Unfortunately, it's not always readily on demand. Einstein used it by continually focusing on a problem until an answer came into his consciousness.

    One point I’d like to make here is that a high IQ is more of a hindrance than a help when it comes to marketing. People with high IQ’s don’t usually relate well to others. They tend to skip what seems obvious to them when explaining most anything. That makes for really bad sales pages.
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