The laptop lifestyle; Is it at all possible? Or am I deluded to think so?

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I would love to be able to pursue my passion for personal development, and sharing this with the world. Being able to make a difference in peoples lives is what I'm certain I can do.

The idea of working from my laptop, wherever, whenever, and with whoever I want, whilst making large amounts of money in the 6 and 7 figure region is VERY APPEALING to us all. Residual income into our bank accounts whilst sleeping sounds amazing. Being able to earn multiple 6 or 7 figures working less than 20 hours per week seems incredible. But are these things even possible?

I have hired mentors, invested in multiple online courses and programs, watched hours of tutorials and coaching videos; The money I have made online is $0.

I'm curious to know of some kind of possibilities if they exist that would enable me to quit my full time job and pursue my biggest passion with my own business. I'm not looking for a "get rich quick" scheme. Just something that resonates with me, where I can share my love for personal development, create a life of freedom for myself, and change peoples lives with my passion.

Does anybody have any advice or suggestions as to how I can begin this journey? Or does it not really exist? A lot of the people who say they can show you how to live 'the good life' are living it because people are paying them lots of money to want this for themselves, and so showing them creates that money for themselves.

I don't have a lot of knowledge or experience in marketing; This is pretty much it:
  • I created a website
  • got an AWeber account
  • tried out Instapage
  • used a few FB ads
  • got some leads
  • have around 100 subscribers.

I do however have skills in health & fitness, motivation, and mindset.

Are there any step-by-step guides, mentors, coaches, programs that would be able to assist me?

If anybody can point me in the right direction or give a little guidance I'd be very grateful.

Thanks, Paul.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
    How many times have you mailed your subscribers? What are you selling them? What do they want to be sold?
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Wadsworth
      Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

      How many times have you mailed your subscribers? What are you selling them? What do they want to be sold?
      I haven't used it in months because I'm not sure of what to send and I have nothing to sell.
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    • Profile picture of the author Diskretni
      Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

      How many times have you mailed your subscribers? What are you selling them? What do they want to be sold?
      Too much questions lol,just kidding,I was wondering the same thing.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by DRP View Post

        Paul,

        If you want to fill me in on what you do, I'll give you some ideas and resources for FREE. No opt in or other nonsense.

        It's cool because I have to coordinate with writers, developers, graphic designers, videographers, etc to make the magic happen. Yes, I work a job, but I guarantee that I make more than 99% of the people here. I love it and I don't sell pipe dreams and unicorns...although I've certainly flirted with the idea.
        Yes, creating a group, considered doing that for flyers, but fonts caught my eye, (and pretty much all of my profits) so l will stay with that.

        99%, give me a month.



        Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

        Thank you.

        You are correct about the inner work. I invested a lot of money into Bob Proctor who provided me with a lot of exercises and work to reprogram my mind.

        He also promised me that he would personally change my life.

        I'm still waiting...

        I do know some of these things are possible, but I'm just very concerned about not loosing more money. Reading a shit load of books isn't going to get me anywhere, I've realised that!

        There are obviously a lot of people living this lifestyle, but for me it's being able to live it for the right reasons, and to know that I am not ripping anyone off for a quick dollar or 2.
        Yep, classic hook, for marketing gurus, they will spoon feed you info, for as long as they can, to keep the money flowing in, but NEVER give you a sure fire way to actually do something that will open the floodgates.

        Believe me l have followed a few, Amit Meta and Martin Crumish, were the only ones, that tried to create a campaign or offer in front of everyone to show that money can be made.

        Most got lucky, and then created a subscription and website, etc.

        You will learn a lot of good stuff, but how to do something that makes money, probably not.

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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

    Does anybody have any advice or suggestions as to how I can begin this journey? Or does it not really exist? A lot of the people who say they can show you how to live 'the good life' are living it because people are paying them lots of money to want this for themselves, and so showing them creates that money for themselves.
    Prepare to work a lot, for a long time.

    The money is there, if you're willing to put the effort in.

    I've seen so many people, many of them on this forum actually, who've kept chipping away at their business for years and eventually breaking into the region of 6 and 7 figures.. and even one guy who broke 8.

    The keyword here is keep chipping away. It takes time and dedication, and you have to roll with the punches too. There are many.

    • I created a website
    • got an AWeber account
    • tried out Instapage
    • used a few FB ads
    • got some leads
    • have around 100 subscribers
    .
    You've got the basics, just keep tweaking things, and relentlessly test.

    Keep an eye on your conversion rate.. but without looking at what you're doing, it's impossible for us to give advice that might actually mean anything beyond the same old generic stuff.

    And with that said.. 100 subscribers isn't many at all. People are joining your list though, so you're doing something right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Wadsworth
    I should add that I don't know how or where money comes from.

    I have nothing to sell, just a free eBook!

    There seems to be many different possibilities such as:

    Affiliate marketing
    MLM
    Amazon business
    Youtube
    Blogging
    Having your own products/services

    There seems to be no strategy to work towards anything because I don't know where to start or what avenue to pursue.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmgwriting
    I highly, highly recommend Andrew Minalto as a coach. He has a series of online entrepreneur courses on his website, just google him.

    You mentioned health and fitness, mindset and motivation. They go very well together. Why not setup a blog around this niche (perhaps you already have), start giving your subscribers free helpful tips and tricks around the topic. Via email and blog posts.

    Create a landing page to generate leads by giving a way a free weeks training plan or diet plan. Anything helpful really.

    Over time, you can start to promote any services you create to your subscribers. Such as your own training regimes or diets, how to get the right mindset on a daily basis and stay consistent, etc.

    Hope this helped. All the best.
    -David
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  • Profile picture of the author helpinghand182
    It's never been more possible. The world is being layed out for you to get the "laptop lifestyle" your looking for. Self Application >>> Outdated Education
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  • Profile picture of the author John Cho
    It's possible.. I've seen and met many folks who are doing it now.
    And no you don't need to have your own product to start off but you need to invest both time and money..
    a lot of investment and you can get something back within a year that's scalable and real.

    My advice - Get a Coach and prepare to invest some more money into building your business - start off with affiliate marketing and start building an email list. Get to know people in the industry - there are folks in the Personal Development Niche which is a billion dollar ever green niche btw that are doing very well. So if you have experience and/or interest in the Self help and Health niches this might be for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author MrPjackson
      Originally Posted by John Cho View Post

      It's possible.. I've seen and met many folks who are doing it now.
      And no you don't need to have your own product to start off but you need to invest both time and money..
      a lot of investment and you can get something back within a year that's scalable and real.

      My advice - Get a Coach and prepare to invest some more money into building your business - start off with affiliate marketing and start building an email list. Get to know people in the industry - there are folks in the Personal Development Niche which is a billion dollar ever green niche btw that are doing very well. So if you have experience and/or interest in the Self help and Health niches this might be for you.
      My passion is personal development, shifting mindset and health and fitness as well. Any ideas as to where to seek out these coaches as I need to invest in getting a online business off the ground. I own a offline physical demanding business that can scale but as it scales the overhead scales with it to the point I have to manage people which I prefer not too.
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    dude you're well on your way.

    the little that you've done, is all that you need.

    now just be consistent

    best of luck,
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  • Profile picture of the author Elvis Michael
    You most likely haven't dedicated enough time to the one or two areas that will ultimately bring you targeted traffic.

    For example: Don't be all over the place and only handle the most crucial things. Then keep at it -- for a long while.

    In this case (assuming you have a blog and a few optin forms configured) hang around several forums and contribute over there like crazy. Apply a similar approach to the likes of Reddit, Quora, and/or Yahoo Answers. People in your niche hang out in those places -- so you NEED to be there as well.

    That builds trust, and when a lot of them come to your website, they might subscribe. At that point, you want to keep building trust through periodic emails. Then, and only then, may you start selling.

    Anyway, just narrow your focus a bit, because you said you have tried many things already.....

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author shaunybb
    hey there


    My questions to you!


    • How long have you spent trying to do this?
    • Do you have a blueprint set up?
    • How much time do you spend on your business?
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Wadsworth
      Originally Posted by shaunybb View Post

      hey there


      My questions to you!


      • How long have you spent trying to do this?
      • Do you have a blueprint set up?
      • How much time do you spend on your business?
      I've been trying for a year or 2, but not for a sustained period of time.

      I don't have a blueprint
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  • Profile picture of the author gingerninjas
    The lifestyle is totally possibly and my husband has just quit his job in the last 6 weeks and now does it too with me - so I am proof however - and this is a big BUT - you do need to work your arse off at the start. And I'm not talking doing a few extra hours here and there, for the first year, I worked my normal corporate job and balanced my business after hours and on weekends and then after a year or so I decided to lock in a few projects and work permanently for myself (just me and my laptop). You do have to have a great pipeline, and for me that is running a marketing agency and bringing in ongoing client work as well as managing monthly projects that allows me to know what money is coming in. You also need affiliate partnership with people who refer you work - in my case marketing, content writing and other marketing strategy work. If you're not already doing it, I would also throw some networking into the mix. While you may not want to get out and about and pump flesh, it is important to build your network and to let people know what you are doing. i am sure if you look back in 6 months you will have it all sorted, I think what you're experiencing now is that thrill / fear of being out on your own. Frankly, it's amazing working for yourself and having flexibility, however it's not a walk in the park and some days you're going to get stressed, but for the most part it is awesome. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Wadsworth
    It sound's promising then!

    But where can I start?

    I'll make sure I invest one of my day's off to learning and doing whatever I need to do, to get to where I want to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author kerunai
    you need at least 5000 subscribers bro

    100 is nothing ... not even a scratch
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    • Profile picture of the author madstan
      Not necessarily. If you have 100 subscribers who are interested in the niche you are offering you can still have a nice conversion rate.

      Originally Posted by kerunai View Post

      you need at least 5000 subscribers bro

      100 is nothing ... not even a scratch
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  • Profile picture of the author Van Dam
    Great topic Paul. You have taken great steps already and don't give up when you don't see immediate results. You have skills that are in hot niches. I would suggest to join facebook groups and forums that match your skills and niches you wish to target. Make a few posts but don't go in all salesman like.

    Also, regarding your email list. Possibly design a 7 day FREE course to send to them day-by-day and then when it concludes send them an email offering your service with your price with something along the lines of ''If you want to learn more in-depth''.

    It's not too hard once you get the hang of it.

    Best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi Paul,

    I thanked you for sharing your journey. I know how it feels and appreciate your openness and honesty.

    "Being able to make a difference in peoples lives is what I'm certain I can do"

    Bingo. That's it. That's your starting point. Devote all of your intent to making a difference in people's lives while you follow what feels most fun to you, niche wise. The practical tips, influencers, mentors, prospering ideas and inspired actions will find you more regularly if you hold this intent most of the time.

    As if the laptop lifestyle is possible, I've only paid for a domain and hosting over the past 8 years and have spent near nil on coaching and mentoring (didn't drop much at all, like zero pretty much, on systems and coaching), and this is my life:

    Blogging From Paradise

    I've circled the globe for the past 5 years as a full time blogger, living in places like Fiji and Bali and Thailand for months or years at a time. Writing these words from Istanbul now (normal day to day living, don't trust the headlines).

    What I did not spend in money I spent on facing and experiencing my demons (not pleasant, but darn freeing), learning by reading voraciously, practicing to improve my skill sets, and persisting with both my personal development and blog-building activities to create this neat lifestyle and to help other folks do what I do.

    If you are struggling the answer lies within. Because until you get really clear on why you're doing this and until you face, embrace and release any anxieties/fears/limiting beliefs around the worries (thru meditation, EFT tapping, etc), anything you touch will turn to custard. Which is why the training and mentoring and websites and everything have yielded 0 dollars for you.

    It's like: you can't get over or around something that's still *in you.* Does that make sense? The energy is there, in you, and reflects back to you as the $0.

    And believe you me, the answer is not in doing more, or hustling or pushing, because if you don't address the energies, they ain't going nowhere and you will self-sabotage. Take it from a former expert in this area

    I think many well-meaning and even successful laptop lifestyle mentors gloss over addressing the pain points because they're hungry to make profits. I explicitly have felt the pain, misery, depression, rage and outright grief of trying to gloss over or bury the mental blocks and deeper, sometimes nasty feelings for years, and I've also felt the joy and liberation of facing, embracing and releasing these energies, to live my life by design, to feel more detached from outcomes, and in so doing I was blessed to be featured on some of the world's most famous blogs (Forbes, Richard Branson's Virgin blog) as a "digital nomad authority"...whatever that means LOL.

    I do coaching/consulting on blogging and on living the dot com lifestyle you so deeply want to live. Information is available on Coaching tab thru my home page (geared toward blogging there, but I do full analysis for anybody wanting to do what you want to do). I focus heavily on the inner work with a healthy dose of practical tips to get things up and running so you can get on the right track toward living your dreams.

    Get super clear on 2 things Paul: following your fun and following your freedom. Your passion is in personal development, which is awesome. So you will free yourself more and more thru expressing this passion.

    As you progress, and honestly assess how you feel, as you dive into doing freeing but uncomfortable things, you'll begin to feel deeper emotions, most of them anxiety and fear-based, that you need to face, experience (cry out, punch a pillow, grieve, etc), and then, release, to be freer of those success-blocking energies.

    Then, the doing gets a bit easier and you'll get some neat ideas and hope will spring up, more powerfully, from within your being. This is the big shift or turning point that the guys and gals who live their dreams, making: feeling the pain, letting it go, and moving forward from a more relaxed, prospering space, moving into specific actions to build their online biz's while maintaining the right vibe to manifest success.

    I could be here for 16 hours writing about this stuff but Turkey is calling my friend

    Feel free to DM me and we can chat.

    Hold that freeing intent, hold your dream and you'll create the life. I know it.

    Ryan

    PS....I've written 126 eBooks talking about how to live this life - heavy emphasis on blogging but I cover a bunch of topics which may interest you - and also give out 1 free blogging eBook every Friday for my list and Push subscribers. Could be helpful for you to build your personal development biz on a blog for it's a foundational branding tool, so yep, these free eBooks may be up your alley.
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  • Profile picture of the author vovanfree
    well let me know first about yout strategy. How many times you have mailed to your subscribers in a day ?I am little bit confused about your niche.Well you can go for motivation and health topic like you have mentioned.But Let me know , you can sell any thing or earn from every thing If you have an investment and you have potential to run ads on fb (how to target audience and make interest). I mean low budget and high conversion strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author DRP
    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

    I have hired mentors, invested in multiple online courses and programs, watched hours of tutorials and coaching videos; The money I have made online is $0.
    Unfortunately, you fit the description of someone who's been fleeced. I'm not going to attack you since it's not always the victim's fault. Other people here will put the onus on you, when it's really on the people who were selling you dreams. That's all it is...selling dreams. Your results are very typical!

    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

    Does anybody have any advice or suggestions as to how I can begin this journey? Or does it not really exist?
    I do! I have the truth for you. The ugly...bitter...truth. Would you like the red pill or the blue pill? Most people here like the blue pill...if you'll excuse the Matrix reference.

    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

    A lot of the people who say they can show you how to live 'the good life' are living it because people are paying them lots of money to want this for themselves, and so showing them creates that money for themselves.
    You've learned the real secret to anyone that makes money online in the "new age/new wage/selfish help/info product/laptop lifestyle" business. They make money by selling dreams.

    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

    I don't have a lot of knowledge or experience in marketing.
    Then you're done for. I'm sorry. It's not what you want to hear. But even with the dreams and deceit aside, it is hard to make money.

    It's simple arithmetic. If you want to make $1000/day for example...you'd need to sell 20 units at $50. That doesn't sound too bad. But upon further examination, you find that your conversion rate is only 2% (the industry average is less than 1%) so you'll need 1000 targeted visitors to your sales page every day, or 7000 targeted visitors per week. That's A LOT.

    At a conservative cost of .20/click it will cost you $200/day to get those 1000 visitors, which gives you gross sales of $1000. BUT! We forgot to factor in a conservative refund rate of 5%! So you actually make 19 sales a day and $950 gross revenue.

    We also forgot to factor in a conservative 3% in processing fees! And we forgot to factor in 20% in taxes! You're left with $737/day while spending $200+/day. I didn't even touch upon your operating expenses! And this example is still very dreamy! Your actual costs will be higher and your conversion rates will be much lower.

    Holy crap! Where is all the money going?! Not in your pocket! That's for sure! You'll most likely burn through all your money like you were at the casino.

    I'm sorry to pop the bubble with the facts, but the "laptop lifestyle" is a cruel lie cooked up to sell dreams. You're not delusional yet. If you ignore my post and continue to believe that you'll "crack the code" and make millions online...then you'll be delusional.

    I'm sorry. I am. But I'd rather give you the facts and save you lots of money, than lie to you and have you spend your life savings on pipe dreams and unicorns.
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    • Profile picture of the author younglite
      Originally Posted by MValmont View Post

      Took me a few months to quit my job in finance to do IM full time. However, I used a method that work quickly...I started making money with Kindle Publishing. It's really easy to make a few grands per month with this method.
      Thanks for sharing! I was advised to try this since I don't want to be bothered with maintaining a list.

      Questions - how many books did you have when you went full-time? How many topics?
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  • Profile picture of the author madstan
    The best thing you could have done with your money and could still do is invest it monthly into high interest funds or treasury bills and track your dividends online if it would make you feel better to use a laptop to watch your earnings. Keep doing that for a year or two and you will have fun watching your money multiplying and working for you.

    Internet marketing is very difficult to do especially if you are a noob and before you know it thousands of dollars invested into could be lost instead of earned which could have been better utilized.

    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

    I would love to be able to pursue my passion for personal development, and sharing this with the world. Being able to make a difference in peoples lives is what I'm certain I can do.

    The idea of working from my laptop, wherever, whenever, and with whoever I want, whilst making large amounts of money in the 6 and 7 figure region is VERY APPEALING to us all. Residual income into our bank accounts whilst sleeping sounds amazing. Being able to earn multiple 6 or 7 figures working less than 20 hours per week seems incredible. But are these things even possible?

    I have hired mentors, invested in multiple online courses and programs, watched hours of tutorials and coaching videos; The money I have made online is $0.

    I'm curious to know of some kind of possibilities if they exist that would enable me to quit my full time job and pursue my biggest passion with my own business. I'm not looking for a "get rich quick" scheme. Just something that resonates with me, where I can share my love for personal development, create a life of freedom for myself, and change peoples lives with my passion.

    Does anybody have any advice or suggestions as to how I can begin this journey? Or does it not really exist? A lot of the people who say they can show you how to live 'the good life' are living it because people are paying them lots of money to want this for themselves, and so showing them creates that money for themselves.

    I don't have a lot of knowledge or experience in marketing; This is pretty much it:
    • I created a website
    • got an AWeber account
    • tried out Instapage
    • used a few FB ads
    • got some leads
    • have around 100 subscribers.

    I do however have skills in health & fitness, motivation, and mindset.

    Are there any step-by-step guides, mentors, coaches, programs that would be able to assist me?

    If anybody can point me in the right direction or give a little guidance I'd be very grateful.

    Thanks, Paul.
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  • Profile picture of the author phenomix
    Absolutely it's possible. But the 20-hour work week may not be as such and it can take quite some time to build your business to a point where that is possible. Although I am in a fixed location overseas, my business is completely dependent on my laptop and an Internet connection so I can just get up and go somewhere new if I want to. Having said that, I easily put in over 50 hours a week on my projects.
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  • Profile picture of the author heero212
    There's a huge difference between wanting to do something and doing something. You should also keep in mind that many of the people making the most out of a gold rush are the ones selling shovels. When it gets down to it making money online is a big competition and the ones who are killing it aren't going to give out valuable information to random people on the internet. It just doesn't work that way. There are exceptions of course but I think it's essential that you instill the attitude in yourself that you're going to have to do the work almost entirely on your own. You can pick up pointers from others but where the work is concerned you're on your own. With that understood approach things with the absolute commitment to learn from mistakes and to start small and then scale once you find something that works. Finding what works is where the grind is. You grind as smart and as efficiently as you can and take absolute responsibility for whether you succeed or not. You aren't going to succeed online with a half-assed approach unless you get incredibly lucky. You have to grind.

    Also, assume everyone in this industry is broke and fos until proven otherwise. It should help you sift through the noise much quicker.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Lee
    The laptop lifestyle is real, it's just that you must learn how to find it. Don't go for obvious get rich schemes, you are smarter than that. You just have to seize good opportunities that come by and when you do find them remember that 'Without Action There is No Reaction'. So taking action is the foundation key to success. You got to take action when it comes. Only then can you say you have taken the first step to make a difference in your life to learn the trade to become an online marketer.

    This has always worked for me especially in my last 6 months when I took actions to one business opportunity that now earns me $200 per day.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenW3
    The only way any person on this forum ever earns money is by selling a product or a service (at a price higher than their cost) or as wages from working for a company that sells products and services.

    All businesses sell something and every employee everywhere supports the process of selling services, making things to sell, doing the sales, or supporting customers after sales are made. If you have nothing to sell at a profit, you will make no money. If you have a product or service to sell but cannot make sales, you will make no money.

    You don't need a mentor. You need to be able to watch how people make money. Every time you see a link here ... Every time you visit a website ... Every time you listen to radio, TV, read a blog ... ask yourself: What are they selling? When you learn what is being sold, then look to see how they are doing it.

    The money that will pay your bills (regardless of preferred lifestyle) will come from making sales. The better you are at making sales, the more money you will make.

    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth

    I have hired mentors, invested in multiple online courses and programs, watched hours of tutorials and coaching videos; The money I have made online is $0.
    and the reason why is: You are not selling a product or service for a profit.

    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth

    I should add that I don't know how or where money comes from.

    I have nothing to sell, just a free eBook!

    There seems to be many different possibilities such as:

    Affiliate marketing
    MLM
    Amazon business
    Youtube
    Blogging
    Having your own products/services
    You make money by making a product or service yourself and marketing it, by selling a product or service at a price higher than your cost, or by working as a salesperson for others.

    For your list above:
    Affiliate marketing is working as a commission salesperson for a company that sells products or services. Drop Shipping is the same as affiliate marketing (except you get your commission at the time of the sale instead of waiting.) MLM is selling another company's products at a higher price than your cost (also as a commission-only salesperson). Amazon is selling products online at a price higher than cost plus fees (or you can be their affiliate). YouTube is promotion of products and services. Blogging is writing for a specific area of interest, which can be monetized by selling products and services that would be useful (needed, wanted) to the demographic.

    Can you determine how Ryan Biddulph (in his post above) makes the money he needs to live the lifestyle he has chosen? For every link in this thread, including signatures and the Warrior Forum top banner, the link is selling something. Every link on your computer to a business is selling - This is where their money is coming from.
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  • Profile picture of the author silveroaks
    The Laptop Lifestyle sure sounds good and easy but actually it requires a lot of hard work and dedication. start with that and the money will starting pouring in slowly.
    p.s try to get as many subscribers as you can.
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  • Profile picture of the author jacobsnyder
    There's already enough great information on this thread about some great mentors and people to learn from.....but to answer your original question, NO, you are not deluded at all.

    It's about investing your time and money on a system you believe in and can give you results.

    I know what it's like to be you. I started in this business a year ago on this forum and got lost buying product after product.

    What did I do? I left this forum and focused on MAKING MONEY.

    You ask, "what did you do to make money?"

    I left this forum with tons of products on YouTube, CPA, Affiliate marketing, list building, and everything in between. I bought a ton of WSOs and Clickbank products with almost zero results.... When I was lost and confused in pursuit of making an income in Internet marketing and having the "laptop lifestyle", I decided to go through the products that I bought and I ended up piecing stuff together.

    The three things that I learned from the first WSO I bought I pieced together with the other WSOs on that same topic. It took time.....but I eventually pieced it all together. With multiple income streams going on now, I can tell you upfront that you are not at all deluded about the idea of creating a business in the online world.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    I think making multiple 6-7 figures working 20 hours or less for most will never happen!!! Those with the least amount of experience, usually have the most unrealistic expectations.

    By no means am I saying it can't be done. However, if someone is generating 7 figures and works 20 hours or less, they probably have a team that does the actual work and other forms of support and are delegating / overseeing what needs to get done. To me, this is the only realistic way, someone is going to reach this goal.

    I do believer that one could have a 6 figure business and work those kind of hours. But this would only happen after they have put in their time to develop it and may end up in the end, requiring a virtual assistant to make it possible.

    With internet marketing, I don't think there is anything that can beat automating tasks, that make sense to do so and hiring inexpensive VA's, in order to cost effectively reducing the time you have to actually spend working.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Wadsworth
    I'm grateful, yet concerned with the mixed responses. But now I'll feel like every other person who offers advice is just trying to sell me something.

    I'm willing to put in the time and effort if I know it's the right thing, but I'm not willing to be misled into multiple links for people to make money off me with no real intention to want to help.

    At the end of the day I have a strong desire to change lives as I already do on a one-to-one basis in my job. But I'd like to expand and free up more time for myself and get involved with the online world.

    I'm guessing that with so much shit and tons of scams out there, it's hard to know who to trust.
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    • Profile picture of the author DRP
      Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

      I'm guessing that with so much shit and tons of scams out there, it's hard to know who to trust.
      I encourage you to really take what I wrote earlier, to heart. After keeping my eye on this thread, I can tell that the other people who have chimed in are, for lack of a better term, full of shit. Especially the ones telling you that it's possible...when they have no idea what they're talking about.

      Keep your job and for the love of all this is holy, disregard the clowns here. There's a superfluity of them on here. They'll even admit that they don't make a lot of money...but they "know" that their dreams will come true. Give me a ******* break!

      You can trust me, because I don't have anything to offer but the truth. Keep your job, live below your means and all that, and enjoy life. If you have spare time and you want to learn more about side hustles that you can legitimately do to earn more money...fine. But please don't fall for the bullshit.
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      • Profile picture of the author pawandave
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        Better you ask, am I make delay to lead laptop style. This forum is living example of Laptop style. I make $5000 to $10,000 PM easily that is 20 times what i was getting paid in my days job..
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
      Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

      I'm grateful, yet concerned with the mixed responses. But now I'll feel like every other person who offers advice is just trying to sell me something.

      I'm willing to put in the time and effort if I know it's the right thing, but I'm not willing to be misled into multiple links for people to make money off me with no real intention to want to help.

      At the end of the day I have a strong desire to change lives as I already do on a one-to-one basis in my job. But I'd like to expand and free up more time for myself and get involved with the online world.

      I'm guessing that with so much shit and tons of scams out there, it's hard to know who to trust.
      Hi Paul,

      Methinks you have some resistance in there that you could face, embrace and release Re-read bolded words please, it'll help move things along to give you greater clarity in what you can dive into, feeling-wise.

      Just hopping in and sharing because if you cling to these beliefs, and the past, including experiences where you felt ripped off, etc, you will explicitly ignore good, sound, proven advice (whether free or premium) from the exact people who are living the life you learn to live.

      This was one of my biggest mistakes online. For 5 years. It made my life a living hell, even amid some nice success, it was just such a pain in the butt for me and it was 100% my stuff, that I had to own.

      So many folks who were generous, helpful and kind, with the right intentions, reached out to help me, but I was blinded by past experiences and baggage that I clung to.

      It wasn't until I experienced the emotions consistent with my distrust, anger, resentment, and all that other stuff, that I cleared the energies and bought into - energy-wise and money-wise - the advice of pros whom I admired, then things slowly began to take off.

      Think of it this way (God knows this helped me in the past): I could have been doing 18,000 other things the day I wrote the lengthy response above. I am living the dream. But I set aside 20 minutes to help you because I care about you. And I am doing it again today. I care.

      It doesn't mean you will necessary vibe with my advice but when you clear your mistrust and other stuff, you can see the Universe is there to help you, to assist you, and to guide you, with established pros sharing their thoughts from a compassionate, empathetic space, for you.....if you keep opening up to it.

      Sometimes we will offer advice for free, without you exchanging an energy called "money" (just an energy, neutral energy, nothing more) to get the advice, and other times we will accept the energy called "money" (which most of us have some wacky energy around LOL) as a means of exchange.

      Virtually every single Warrior accepts this energy at one time in their lives - save the Buddhist monks here - because we cannot pay the rent, for food or the electricity bills in hugs and kisses. Just a means of exchange, nothing more, nothing less. Every person who's worked a job accepts money and bloggers or IMers are no different.

      Just had to share Paul. You want this life, and you don't have to struggle for the next 5 years like I did.....so I'm seeing where you can accelerate your growth and dissolve your mental blocks.

      Cheers,

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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Wadsworth
      Originally Posted by Hone Matete View Post

      Hey Paul

      Mate I was in the same boat 3 Months ago and have found what I was looking for. I have joined a community that gave me the step by step process to building an online business from scratch. I didn't have any of the skills that you have and had no idea about affiliate marketing. I was completely fresh, if you know what I mean. Anyway they gave me everything I needed to start and are very supportive. I'm currently making 20 leads a day on average and am making sales. Only early days but everything that you are asking for they provided me. Now I'm not trying to sell you on anything just wanted to let you know that i found this awesome company that helped me out. Here's a link so that you can check them out. Hope this is helpful. Free Trial You will have to sign up and then it will take you to a page that has an lot more information. Good luck Bud!
      I'm aware of the SFM. My friend was making around £10k a month promoting their affiliate products.

      He did however have a very large email list and it didn't last for a great amount of time.

      I think Stuart's YouTube ad on a boat coming onto my screen more than 100 times completely spammed me out.

      Thanks though.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenW3
    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth

    I'm grateful, yet concerned with the mixed responses. But now I'll feel like every other person who offers advice is just trying to sell me something.
    Yes, by selling you something, they will make money. The posters promoting education in this thread want your money.

    There's the post that says you need more subscribers on your list and has a link where you can pay money to him to learn how to get more subscribers. There's the post that says: Of course it is possible, and they are selling a course that claims anybody can make five figures a month. There is forum spam in this thread, new members with a single post that write and say you can have it all and here's the link you need to click.

    They are each attempting to monetize their forum activity - most of them will disappear because they are trying to appear as authorities but have not applied their limited knowledge. When you have tried and tested enough methods, you will know which posters don't know what they're doing.

    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth

    I'm willing to put in the time and effort if I know it's the right thing, but I'm not willing to be misled into multiple links for people to make money off me with no real intention to want to help.
    Until you can determine which advice is real and which is useless, any money you spend trying to learn how to build an online business will be a waste.

    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth

    At the end of the day I have a strong desire to change lives as I already do on a one-to-one basis in my job. But I'd like to expand and free up more time for myself and get involved with the online world.

    I'm guessing that with so much sh and tons of scams out there, it's hard to know who to trust.
    Your answer is:

    Originally Posted by DRP

    Keep your job and for the love of all this is holy, disregard the clowns here. There's a superfluity of them on here. They'll even admit that they don't make a lot of money...but they "know" that their dreams will come true.
    When a forum does not limit new members before links are allowed, the spammers will overrun the threads. It shows more activity but degrades the quality of response. Even some established members have links to education they obviously have not fully tested. For new people like yourself asking questions, you should know that some of the advice here (and elsewhere online) is financially dangerous. The established, knowledgeable members here could all use something like a reverse-thanks but then the spammers would use it for their benefit.

    Is the laptop lifestyle possible? The fact that there are journalists working for major news organizations and individuals that have built large targeted followings, that afford them the ability to travel, says the answer is Yes. Can you do it? Not without a lot of hard work and long hours over a period of years building a business.

    I believe Ryan Biddulph (that posted above) is, in fact, living a laptop lifestyle. How do I know this? He sells a blogging course on his website, he sells coaching (that can be done from anywhere) and, most importantly, Ryan has written 255 books that are available on Amazon and his website. The residual income from book sales alone could likely enable his travel and writing. I can assure you he was not working 20 hours a week as a journalist to generate that quantity of material. Can you do what he is doing? Of course! ... just write a hundred books, place them for sale at ecommerce sites on the internet, and when sales and profits are high enough to start traveling, you can continue writing from wherever you want to go.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
      Actually Ken it's only 126 eBooks

      Fab response and thanks for the Big Up.

      BTW guys, income streams (Ken mentioned in question prior):

      * coaching
      * eBooks on Amazon
      * audio books on Audible, iTunes and Amazon
      * paperbacks
      * eBooks on Selz
      * freelance writing
      * sponsored posts
      * affiliate marketing
      * carrier pigeons in Istanbul who bring me money (just seeing if you're paying attention

      But I assure you, based on my past misery, if you don't do the inner clearing/mindset work, when you touch these streams, they will turn to crap, because you can't make money and build a freeing, laptop lifestyle when you cloud your mind with strong doubts/skepticism/etc.

      I can share income streams and the specific strategies, but most folks have so many limiting beliefs it's like handing a newborn the keys to a Ferrari: they can't do a darn thing with 'em.

      The folks who do the inner work though, clearing out head trash, and following their fun, become the Formula 1 drivers who can make that Ferrari SING! They snatch the keys immediately, learn, practice their skills and rock it out online.

      Signing off Paul, Ken and all.

      Have a super day.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Wadsworth
        Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

        Actually Ken it's only 126 eBooks

        Fab response and thanks for the Big Up.

        BTW guys, income streams (Ken mentioned in question prior):

        * coaching
        * eBooks on Amazon
        * audio books on Audible, iTunes and Amazon
        * paperbacks
        * eBooks on Selz
        * freelance writing
        * sponsored posts
        * affiliate marketing
        * carrier pigeons in Istanbul who bring me money (just seeing if you're paying attention

        But I assure you, based on my past misery, if you don't do the inner clearing/mindset work, when you touch these streams, they will turn to crap, because you can't make money and build a freeing, laptop lifestyle when you cloud your mind with strong doubts/skepticism/etc.

        I can share income streams and the specific strategies, but most folks have so many limiting beliefs it's like handing a newborn the keys to a Ferrari: they can't do a darn thing with 'em.

        The folks who do the inner work though, clearing out head trash, and following their fun, become the Formula 1 drivers who can make that Ferrari SING! They snatch the keys immediately, learn, practice their skills and rock it out online.

        Signing off Paul, Ken and all.

        Have a super day.
        Thank you.

        You are correct about the inner work. I invested a lot of money into Bob Proctor who provided me with a lot of exercises and work to reprogram my mind.

        He also promised me that he would personally change my life.

        I'm still waiting...

        I do know some of these things are possible, but I'm just very concerned about not loosing more money. Reading a shit load of books isn't going to get me anywhere, I've realised that!

        There are obviously a lot of people living this lifestyle, but for me it's being able to live it for the right reasons, and to know that I am not ripping anyone off for a quick dollar or 2.

        I appreciate your advice.

        Originally Posted by DRP View Post

        I encourage you to really take what I wrote earlier, to heart. After keeping my eye on this thread, I can tell that the other people who have chimed in are, for lack of a better term, full of shit. Especially the ones telling you that it's possible...when they have no idea what they're talking about.

        Keep your job and for the love of all this is holy, disregard the clowns here. There's a superfluity of them on here. They'll even admit that they don't make a lot of money...but they "know" that their dreams will come true. Give me a ******* break!

        You can trust me, because I don't have anything to offer but the truth. Keep your job, live below your means and all that, and enjoy life. If you have spare time and you want to learn more about side hustles that you can legitimately do to earn more money...fine. But please don't fall for the bullshit.
        I can't help but smile at your comments. Your honesty and bluntness are incredibly funny to me.

        Perhaps I can some how find a way to leverage my job into an online coaching format and create some online programs that will help free up more time.

        What do you do by the way?
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        • Profile picture of the author DRP
          Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

          I can't help but smile at your comments. Your honesty and bluntness are incredibly funny to me.

          Perhaps I can some how find a way to leverage my job into an online coaching format and create some online programs that will help free up more time.

          What do you do by the way?
          Paul,

          Thanks, it's nice that someone around here appreciates my comments. I'm glad you find them amusing too.

          You might be able to turn your experience into a side hustle, but I don't know what you do, or currently have experience with, so I cannot say. I will say that I wouldn't make it a priority. Make it a side hustle...it might evolve into something more...but who's to say. If you want to fill me in on what you do, I'll give you some ideas and resources for FREE. No opt in or other nonsense.

          I'm a C-level Digital Marketing Manager. So it's critical for me to understand how all of the moving parts come together, because I'm responsible for overseeing the conceptualization, implementation, tracking, and tweaking of the company's organic and paid marketing initiatives.

          It's cool because I have to coordinate with writers, developers, graphic designers, videographers, etc to make the magic happen. Yes, I work a job, but I guarantee that I make more than 99% of the people here. I love it and I don't sell pipe dreams and unicorns...although I've certainly flirted with the idea.
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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Wadsworth
            Originally Posted by DRP View Post

            Paul,

            Thanks, it's nice that someone around here appreciates my comments. I'm glad you find them amusing too.

            You might be able to turn your experience into a side hustle, but I don't know what you do, or currently have experience with, so I cannot say. I will say that I wouldn't make it a priority. Make it a side hustle...it might evolve into something more...but who's to say. If you want to fill me in on what you do, I'll give you some ideas and resources for FREE. No opt in or other nonsense.

            I'm a C-level Digital Marketing Manager. So it's critical for me to understand how all of the moving parts come together, because I'm responsible for overseeing the conceptualization, implementation, tracking, and tweaking of the company's organic and paid marketing initiatives.

            It's cool because I have to coordinate with writers, developers, graphic designers, videographers, etc to make the magic happen. Yes, I work a job, but I guarantee that I make more than 99% of the people here. I love it and I don't sell pipe dreams and unicorns...although I've certainly flirted with the idea.
            Thank you DRP!

            I'm a personal trainer specialising in body transformations and nutrition coaching.

            I would love to advance out more into the mindset side of things and somehow share this passion online.

            Marketing is pretty new to me, and all I have so far is an eBook.

            In terms of passive income, I was looking into the previously mentioned avenues such as affiliate marketing as a means to free up more of my time away from my job, so that I can focus on creating better services and products as my own business.

            Hopefully that gives you a little more info into what I do.
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            • Profile picture of the author DRP
              Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

              Thank you DRP!

              I'm a personal trainer specialising in body transformations and nutrition coaching.

              I would love to advance out more into the mindset side of things and somehow share this passion online.

              Marketing is pretty new to me, and all I have so far is an eBook.

              In terms of passive income, I was looking into the previously mentioned avenues such as affiliate marketing as a means to free up more of my time away from my job, so that I can focus on creating better services and products as my own business.

              Hopefully that gives you a little more info into what I do.
              You're welcome. Are you in the UK? I'm taking a guess based on how you spelled "specialising", rather than "specializing" as we Yankees spell it.

              If you're a certified personal trainer then you have the credentials to set up shop and offer a multitude of services and products.

              The first thing you have to do is figure out a few things such as:
              1. What business model will be most appropriate? I'm thinking services, your own programs, and a few affiliate promos.
              2. What are the costs associated with starting up and operating? Domain, hosting, email, etc.
              3. What equipment will you need to start up and operate? iPhone, iMac, software, hardware, etc.
              4. What special licenses and permits do you need? If any?
              5. What will be your MVP - minimum viable product?
              6. How will you acquire customers?
              7. What is your brand?
              8. What is your USP - unique selling proposition?
              You don't have to go too crazy since you're a sole proprietor and personal trainer. But you do need to answer these questions. Here are the assets that I think you should look into cultivating:


              (note - all assets should be branded. If you need to learn about branding, look here - Small Business Branding)

              1. Website
              2. YouTube Channel
              3. Facebook Page
              4. Facebook Group
              5. Instagram

              I wouldn't worry about Twitter or other social media profiles, given the market you'd be going into. But ultimately it's your choice.

              If you're in the UK, I'd look into networking with other people in the fitness market. There's a hot chick, Hell's Fitness, for example, who is in the UK. So there's opportunity for joint ventures or cross promotion. Networking will be an important task for you as well.

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              You can definitely do this as a side hustle and make some extra money with this. For example, Helen at Hell's Fitness, is an Accountant but does her fitness stuff on the side. After some time, who knows what will happen, if anything. I don't want to over burden you with information. But I think I've given you enough to run with. Let me know. I hope this helps!
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              • Profile picture of the author Paul Wadsworth
                Originally Posted by DRP View Post

                You're welcome. Are you in the UK? I'm taking a guess based on how you spelled "specialising", rather than "specializing" as we Yankees spell it.

                If you're a certified personal trainer then you have the credentials to set up shop and offer a multitude of services and products.

                The first thing you have to do is figure out a few things such as:
                1. What business model will be most appropriate? I'm thinking services, your own programs, and a few affiliate promos.
                2. What are the costs associated with starting up and operating? Domain, hosting, email, etc.
                3. What equipment will you need to start up and operate? iPhone, iMac, software, hardware, etc.
                4. What special licenses and permits do you need? If any?
                5. What will be your MVP - minimum viable product?
                6. How will you acquire customers?
                7. What is your brand?
                8. What is your USP - unique selling proposition?
                You don't have to go too crazy since you're a sole proprietor and personal trainer. But you do need to answer these questions. Here are the assets that I think you should look into cultivating:


                (note - all assets should be branded. If you need to learn about branding, look here - Small Business Branding)

                1. Website
                2. YouTube Channel
                3. Facebook Page
                4. Facebook Group
                5. Instagram

                I wouldn't worry about Twitter or other social media profiles, given the market you'd be going into. But ultimately it's your choice.

                If you're in the UK, I'd look into networking with other people in the fitness market. There's a hot chick, Hell's Fitness, for example, who is in the UK. So there's opportunity for joint ventures or cross promotion. Networking will be an important task for you as well.

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                QuickSprout University
                Google Digital Marketing Playlist
                Google Small Business
                HubSpot Marketing Blog
                Moz Blog

                You can definitely do this as a side hustle and make some extra money with this. For example, Helen at Hell's Fitness, is an Accountant but does her fitness stuff on the side. After some time, who knows what will happen, if anything. I don't want to over burden you with information. But I think I've given you enough to run with. Let me know. I hope this helps!
                Thanks a lot DRP!

                Yes I am from the UK. Although I am currently living in Canada, so maybe I should start to change my spelling to North American haha.

                There's a meaty amount of great information there for me, so thank you.

                Branding is something that's been bugging me a lot recently so I'll definitely check that video out you linked. I believe that my USP needs some clarity too!

                I also just found a free course on EDX for marketing so I'll give that a go. It should help me learn more at least.

                There's some questions you asked that I need to answer myself for sure; that's clear to see.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    It's definitely possible. But it will take a lot of hard work,dedication and focus. Most people never achieve success because they're only focused on lining their own pockets and nothing else. The way you make money in any kind of business is serving people and solving problems. Do those two things on a consistent basis and you'll be way ahead of the pack.
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    • Profile picture of the author aizaku
      Originally Posted by tyronne78 View Post

      It's definitely possible. But it will take a lot of hard work,dedication and focus. Most people never achieve success because they're only focused on lining their own pockets and nothing else. The way you make money in any kind of business is serving people and solving problems. Do those two things on a consistent basis and you'll be way ahead of the pack.
      Dude, is right,

      provide value and be consistent

      That's all

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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    IMO.. the long term goal might be to work 20 hours a week, but when you are starting you will need to put in 3-4x that.

    Think of it as a long term investment, you are sacrificing the present for your future. It's an up front cost with a long term gain.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

    I would love to be able to pursue my passion for personal development, and sharing this with the world. Being able to make a difference in peoples lives is what I'm certain I can do.

    The idea of working from my laptop, wherever, whenever, and with whoever I want, whilst making large amounts of money in the 6 and 7 figure region is VERY APPEALING to us all. Residual income into our bank accounts whilst sleeping sounds amazing. Being able to earn multiple 6 or 7 figures working less than 20 hours per week seems incredible. But are these things even possible?

    I have hired mentors, invested in multiple online courses and programs, watched hours of tutorials and coaching videos; The money I have made online is $0.

    I'm curious to know of some kind of possibilities if they exist that would enable me to quit my full time job and pursue my biggest passion with my own business. I'm not looking for a "get rich quick" scheme. Just something that resonates with me, where I can share my love for personal development, create a life of freedom for myself, and change peoples lives with my passion.

    Does anybody have any advice or suggestions as to how I can begin this journey? Or does it not really exist? A lot of the people who say they can show you how to live 'the good life' are living it because people are paying them lots of money to want this for themselves, and so showing them creates that money for themselves.

    I don't have a lot of knowledge or experience in marketing; This is pretty much it:
    • I created a website
    • got an AWeber account
    • tried out Instapage
    • used a few FB ads
    • got some leads
    • have around 100 subscribers.

    I do however have skills in health & fitness, motivation, and mindset.

    Are there any step-by-step guides, mentors, coaches, programs that would be able to assist me?

    If anybody can point me in the right direction or give a little guidance I'd be very grateful.

    Thanks, Paul.
    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

    I should add that I don't know how or where money comes from.

    I have nothing to sell, just a free eBook!

    There seems to be many different possibilities such as:

    Affiliate marketing
    MLM
    Amazon business
    Youtube
    Blogging
    Having your own products/services

    There seems to be no strategy to work towards anything because I don't know where to start or what avenue to pursue.
    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

    I've been trying for a year or 2, but not for a sustained period of time.

    I don't have a blueprint
    Originally Posted by DRP View Post

    Unfortunately, you fit the description of someone who's been fleeced. I'm not going to attack you since it's not always the victim's fault. Other people here will put the onus on you, when it's really on the people who were selling you dreams. That's all it is...selling dreams. Your results are very typical!

    I do! I have the truth for you. The ugly...bitter...truth. Would you like the red pill or the blue pill? Most people here like the blue pill...if you'll excuse the Matrix reference.

    You've learned the real secret to anyone that makes money online in the "new age/new wage/selfish help/info product/laptop lifestyle" business. They make money by selling dreams.

    Then you're done for. I'm sorry. It's not what you want to hear. But even with the dreams and deceit aside, it is hard to make money.

    It's simple arithmetic. If you want to make $1000/day for example...you'd need to sell 20 units at $50. That doesn't sound too bad. But upon further examination, you find that your conversion rate is only 2% (the industry average is less than 1%) so you'll need 1000 targeted visitors to your sales page every day, or 7000 targeted visitors per week. That's A LOT.

    At a conservative cost of .20/click it will cost you $200/day to get those 1000 visitors, which gives you gross sales of $1000. BUT! We forgot to factor in a conservative refund rate of 5%! So you actually make 19 sales a day and $950 gross revenue.

    We also forgot to factor in a conservative 3% in processing fees! And we forgot to factor in 20% in taxes! You're left with $737/day while spending $200+/day. I didn't even touch upon your operating expenses! And this example is still very dreamy! Your actual costs will be higher and your conversion rates will be much lower.

    Holy crap! Where is all the money going?! Not in your pocket! That's for sure! You'll most likely burn through all your money like you were at the casino.

    I'm sorry to pop the bubble with the facts, but the "laptop lifestyle" is a cruel lie cooked up to sell dreams. You're not delusional yet. If you ignore my post and continue to believe that you'll "crack the code" and make millions online...then you'll be delusional.

    I'm sorry. I am. But I'd rather give you the facts and save you lots of money, than lie to you and have you spend your life savings on pipe dreams and unicorns.
    Yes, good honest advise.

    SOS, (Shiny Object Syndrome) is an addiction, since it sells hope and anticipation, but never the desired result.

    You believe in the sales pitch, since they show the walking the dogs on the beach, and then go back to their loving wife, and PC on steroids, to do an hours work, watching the money,..... (where's the bucket).

    That lifestyle is possible, but it takes up to almost 10 years of being chained to your Laptop, (yes, there is more than one Laptop lifestyle).

    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

    I'm grateful, yet concerned with the mixed responses. But now I'll feel like every other person who offers advice is just trying to sell me something.

    I'm willing to put in the time and effort if I know it's the right thing, but I'm not willing to be misled into multiple links for people to make money off me with no real intention to want to help.

    At the end of the day I have a strong desire to change lives as I already do on a one-to-one basis in my job. But I'd like to expand and free up more time for myself and get involved with the online world.

    I'm guessing that with so much shit and tons of scams out there, it's hard to know who to trust.
    True, best to seek advise from people like me and others, who are not sugar coating advise, and don't have any coaching links in their sig?

    But l do have a tropical avatar image, but that is more for my benefit.

    Tried building a list, got up to a couple of hundred, mainly using free online coaching videos, and free books, and most of the time the initial sale is easy and then it is near impossible to get any more.

    Adwords, very hard to find enough kw's to sustain growth, and enough cheap ones at that.

    The list is endless, and l am not trying to sell you anything, promise.

    I have been online for almost 10 years, and can tell you that traffic is the hardest thing to get.

    Fix that and wealth is easy, but of course that is very hard to fix.

    Not impossible though.

    A case in point is me realizing years ago, that since Adwords was too expensive, and Bing never works, that l had to concentrate on sites that had their own traffic?

    Find those and the biggest hurdle is gone....

    So, l tried....

    • Fiverr first, but with only 20 product spots available and closing down large PLR bundle products, pretty useless overall. I am certainly not going to work like a slave for an income.

    • Then tried Graphicriver, flyers did well, but, l did the math and found that l would have to work for about 8 years to make a full time living from it.

    So 8 years hard labour, so l can wake up in my underwear and see the money coming in, (well, at the right time of day or night l would).


    • Then last of all, l tried to get into Creative Market. That took about 6 months of effort and a few failed attempts, but l got in, (set up a store).

    I am currently doing fonts for them, as fonts is more profitable than flyers.

    But the catch with fonts, is it requires a good year to learn it all, (Adobe software and font software) so, at least $600 up front to a few thousand.

    Thankfully l have all of that, and am working on something that should do the trick, but time will tell.

    One of my competitors, has done 5, with a few being accepted by the mods over there to include in their emails to their massive lists.

    How massive, it has made her, 20k, within about 6 months, and can make 2 to 7k within a week.

    So, yeah, that is what l am doing, so l guess that the money is in the list, (but much easier to use someone else's).

    And as for killing your demons, etc. I suppose that very negative self talk can go against you, but overall, l just see this as, doing my best, throwing everything l have at it, and making the best or biggest product possible, so they will want to pitch it to their list.

    Do l really believe that this will take off, (can't comprehend it at this point) but l don't believe that visualizing goals daily and meditating, etc, will make that much of a difference.

    Spent years doing all of that goal visualizing stuff, and all it does is p*** you off, or reminds you that it has been a year, and goal A, hasn't appeared yet.

    I am just doing everything that l can to give it the best chance, and motivational, babbling won't make that much of a difference in the end.

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  • Profile picture of the author marciayudkin
    Hi there,

    I've had passive income online earning streams for 15 years now, and have taken two 3-month road trips supported largely or completely by passive income. I don't live out of a suitcase, though, because that's not my preferred lifestyle.

    From my experience and observation, your starting point must be something you care deeply about and that the marketplace values. Both elements are essential. It's in that intersection that a sustainable business is born.

    Don't spend a dime on any mentoring or courses until you find that intersection. It may take thinking and research.

    Good luck!

    Marcia Yudkin
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  • Profile picture of the author james flynn
    You have a good plan lined out. Hang in there and best of luck.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Fred@IncomeLabz
    Yes, it definitely is possible because it's already
    being done by quite a few people.

    But like so many others have already said, you have to work
    hard as hell to achieve your dream.

    Pick a proven strategy that works...

    Block out ALL of the noise.

    That means unsubscribe from the email list of people
    who promote products to you so you won't get distracted
    and start chasing shiny objects.

    Believe in yourself even when no one else does...

    And never ever ever give up.
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    • Profile picture of the author MValmont
      It is possible but you have to build a system and building the system requires hard work.

      You don't even have a system yet. You are at the stage where you are not even sure how to make money online yet. You understand a little bit how it works but you are not there yet.

      You have a free product to collect leads, which is good, but you also need a low price product, a product more expensive, potentially a monthly membership and a high cost product. This is what a real business looks like. And once in a while you send affiliate offers to your list...Now that's a good system (in the information niche).

      There are other ways though. Some people are in the ecommerce niche. They just sell products, they don't have websites in which they collect e-mails, they don't do youtube video etc.

      You have to know what you want to do first. My recommendation would be to listen to a few high quality products first. Don't hire a coach yet. IMO a coach is for when you know exactly what strategy you want to execute, and you are not sure yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4DayWeekend
      3,000,000,000

      3 Billion...

      That's how many people are using the internet...

      With that many potential customers, the laptop lifestyle is obviously possible.

      However it's only possible if you're selling something.

      In order to make money, there needs to be a transaction - from what I'm seeing in your post, you've spent lots of money as a customer yourself - but you're not actually selling anything.

      There is the problem.

      I refuse to believe that each and every one of the numerous courses you've invested in do not work. You really have to take action or at least put two and two together and realise that any sub methods (ie traffic or list building) must eventually lead to a sale to make money.

      I see you say you've got "nothing to sell"...

      Well, everyone of us has something to sell. Almost every top brand on the planet has an affiliate program. Amazon, Ebay, Nike, Expedia, American Airlines and just about everyone else has an affiliate program...

      We're in an era where you can record a 4k video with your smartphone and use free editing software to make it look superb in minutes. There are people uploading videos of them making bacon and eggs to Youtube and making money, simply by putting a link to their recommended frying pan in the description.

      You don't even need a computer...

      A friend of a friend recently asked me who I book my summer holidays with - I made $60 by Emailing them the link to the tour operator's website. That's how effortless affiliate marketing can be.

      So yes, the laptop lifestyle is possible but you need to sell something that isn't location dependant. Dropshipping, affiliate marketing (Via Email or Website) or selling your own information products (Membership, products) all fit the bill.
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  • Profile picture of the author lerxtjr
    I was just watching a program with my son called The Men Who Built America. One of the phrases really stuck with me that "People with real money focus on the game not the money. They watch every move their competition makes and then give complete focus on winning over their competition. The money follows the win."

    You have the mechanics in place and all the tools of the trade. But, it seems you're lacking in the other part of the sequence. Instead of trying to figure out how you're going to make money online, find out what people are buying, who they're buying it from and offer something better. You don't have to recreate the wheel from scratch in this game. You just have to be competitive and focus on winning and spend your time getting in front of other people who are spending money online.
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  • Profile picture of the author thegreatamazing
    Well laptop lifestyle and the 4-Hour Work Week is really possible mate! If you are just starting out, I recommend browsing here on forums --you'll get a lot of ideas and knowledge here.

    I also recommend reading blogs on Internet Marketing and putting what you learned into action. SmartPassiveIncome is a good place to start your online journey
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  • Profile picture of the author SadiyyaPatel
    Keep doing what you're doing. Slow and steady wins the race. Give up the idea of getting rich quick.
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  • Profile picture of the author Isaiah Nixon
    It's not an overnight thing, it's a possible lifestyle but only if you stay consistent. Your product to sell is dependent on the focus of your site. Affiliate marketing is probably the best starting route for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author WarWizard
    Hey Paul,

    It surely is a long journey.

    There are many others who have done it in the fitness space.

    Some that have inspired me are:

    http://fourhourworkweek.com/2011/11/...bs-mike-geary/

    http://www.incomediary.com/vince-del...o-build-muscle

    There are guys like Brandon Carter, Eliot Hulse, Greg from Kinobody, Mark Sisson, Joe Mercola and others who are doing similar things.

    Russell Brunson in his book DotComSecrets that you can get off Amazon or from his site gives us the funnels we need to have to even have a chance to use paid advertising to build a business. even if you don;t want to use paid ads in the begining, you'll still need a funnel. I've seen Mike Chang use YouTube to get attention and then send people through his funnel, long before he started using paid ads on youtube.

    Marlon Sanders has a few good resources that I've found useful in getting the pieces of the puzzle together (Amazing Formula that I bought and a free optin report called 'Best Of Marlon Sanders') and Eric Louviere has a couple of ebooks (one called the best marketing ebook ever) that he gives out for an optin that reveal the true secret of making money which in 2 short words is -> making sales. This can be as a product owner, or as an affiliate.

    Keep chipping away, Use what you already have - testimonials from offline clients, etc to build a good optin report/video/audio and then promote quality products that you either use or believe in, or your own.

    All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
    Have been doing the 4 hour day for years , set up time 12 months if you apply yourself and are willing to learn it can be done

    In the first 12 months you will be looking at 9-12 hour days but hey look on the bright side after that 4 hours day is not bad

    Jason
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    • Profile picture of the author Luke Dennison
      Originally Posted by Regional Warrior View Post

      Have been doing the 4 hour day for years , set up time 12 months if you apply yourself and are willing to learn it can be done

      In the first 12 months you will be looking at 9-12 hour days but hey look on the bright side after that 4 hours day is not bad

      Jason
      I do 12 hour days at the moment but if I stopped all the procrasterbating I could be doing 4 hour work days
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      • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
        Originally Posted by Luke Dennison View Post

        I do 12 hour days at the moment but if I stopped all the procrasterbating I could be doing 4 hour work days
        Best way to stop that would be asked yourself how much are worth an hour ? and be honest
        because you are paying you to do what you are doing so you should be around $227-$395 PH at the min

        Now if you were hiring a freelancer would you like him to be procrasterbating?

        Think smart no hard

        Jason
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  • Profile picture of the author Kate C
    I would suggest you create a landing page and offer something in your niche for free. Promote this and build your subscriber base. Alternatively you could offer them a free email coaching course so they get a taste of what you are offering. Once you have captured their attention you can then start emailing them paid courses and take it from there
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  • Profile picture of the author Mattj84
    That's great that you want to help others while living the 'laptop' lifestyle! It is definitely possible. Just remember that if it were easy, then everybody would do/have it. Simply stay focused, try not to get distracted by the 'shiny objects' and fail forward....meaning if something doesn't pan out the way you thought, you didn't fail, you found out a way that doesn't work and are ready to try a new way.

    Whatever you decide to do, best of luck to you
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    • Profile picture of the author WarWizard
      Originally Posted by Regional Warrior View Post

      Just a heads up the OP has not been on the forum since Aug !! so posting to help him hes long gone
      True Jason, but having answers here from others on the journey would help others who come in the future and search for answers. 🙂
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  • Profile picture of the author leader
    You're off to a great start - 100 subscribers is more than a lot of others have. Yes, its possible. I've lived it. A six figure income generated online for over a decade. Its a lot harder to do now than it used to be if you are just getting started, but its still possible. Only go after this if its tied to something you are truly passionate about. Because, as others have said, its going to be a LOT of work. When you do something you are passionate about, it doesn't feel like work.

    There is a definition of "entrepreneur" which I absolutely love, because I think it really hits the nail on the head: "An entrepreneur is someone who will work themselves 80 hours a week to avoid working 40 hours a week for someone else". And often with little or no compensation in the early days (or longer).

    You have to be prepared to do that. Being an online entrepreneur is also not for the faint of heart. If you are lucky, you may experience the highest of highs - - but you will almost assuredly go through the lowest of lows (I've been through both). There will be heartbreaks. There will be disappointments. There will be experiences and situations which are brutally unfair. Know what you're in for! And if you're cool with that, then follow your dream; pursue your passion. Be prepared to give it everything you've got, because that's almost always what it takes.

    If your project takes off, let me tell you from personal experience - there is no greater feeling in the world, and it will make all the hard work, blood, sweat and tears worth it. But there are no guarantees.

    Life online can be fickle too. Especially if you are dependent on a platform (facebook, amazon, ebay, etsy, google...etc.etc). Don't put all of your eggs in one basket. Be diversified. Otherwise, one platform change, one technology change, and you could be wiped out. If you manage to start generating good income online, look for a sound offline investment as well - buy revenue generating real estate, or invest in some other profitable local business offline so that you always have an income source that is not tied to la-la-land (my affectionate term for the virtual world) - just in case everything goes "pouffe" one day.

    And one more thing, don't quit your day job. Its almost impossible to make money if you don't have money - yes, even online. It ain't fair, but that's how it is. Anyone who tells you differently is usually trying to sell you something (ironically....
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  • Profile picture of the author brutecky
    Originally Posted by Paul Wadsworth View Post

    Being able to earn multiple 6 or 7 figures working less than 20 hours per week seems incredible. But are these things even possible?
    No its not, and Im saying this as a person who makes 7 figures a year online. There is NO WAY your going to do this working less than 20 hours a week. Ok there is one way, you can pay someone to do all the work for you. But be assured, SOMEONE will be working, and a lot more than 20 hours a week.
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