Is there any potential downside to getting traffic from unknown sources?

8 years ago

I am also seeing Fiverr Gigs that say they can send your ad to just under a billion email addresses. I presume this means they are spamming, right?

Chris

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JohnMcCabe

8 years ago

I can think of a couple of downsides...

If you really don't mind fake signups, I'm guessing you're either using a free EMS or self-hosting. Otherwise, those fake signups are going to cost you every month when your EMS bill comes due.

That's if you get signups at all. You could end up with hundreds or thousands of quick bounces, which will tell search engines that your landing page is very low quality, as no one sticks around. Since you mentioned low-quality backlinks, I'm guessing search traffic is important to you. Bounce rate is an important measure of page quality.

As for emailing "almost a billion" email addresses for $5, I can think of at least one way to do that without reaching an actual, legitimate human account. No, I'm not going to spell it out, as I'm not into giving spam tutorials on public fora.

Bottom line, I wouldn't touch any of these offers with your ten foot pole.

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Chris-

8 years ago

What about the option of creating a squeeze-page on WordPress.com and using an opt-in form that's different from my list-management one, and sending traffic to that?

I guess I'd still have to use similar wording on the squeeze-page, to that on my own site. I guess I can make the throw-away squeeze-pages non-indexed, so Google (etc.) shouldn't even look at them.

Would that mean I can do this with zero risk of ranking problems? (A percentage of fake opt-ins, I can live with, if it's worth it to get some real ones).

thanks for info on this

Chris

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JohnMcCabe

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris-

What about the option of creating a squeeze-page on WordPress.com and using an opt-in form that's different from my list-management one, and sending traffic to that?

I guess I'd still have to use similar wording on the squeeze-page, to that on my own site. I guess I can make the throw-away squeeze-pages non-indexed, so Google (etc.) shouldn't even look at them.

Would that mean I can do this with zero risk of ranking problems? (A percentage of fake opt-ins, I can live with, if it's worth it to get some real ones).

thanks for info on this

Chris

If you want to test junk and bot traffic to see if it works, using a throwaway page that is non-indexed might work. I wouldn't put it on WP.com, though. I'd go to Namecheap or someplace and get one of those under-a-buck domains.

Just remember not to add Google Analytics...

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AronParker

8 years ago

First off, if you're going to use your primary business website.

You'll screw up your Google Rankings and Website Trust if you run traffic from bad sources.

If you use that website in your email auto-responder after that, you'll HIT THE SPAM FOLDER.

Moreover, the traffic isn't going to benefit you in any way.

You're not going to make money with it, so why run it in the first place?

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CASHsystems

8 years ago

Unless you know a specific traffic seller on Fiverr or someone that you personally know refers you to a traffic seller on Fiverr, then I would not use any traffic from there. Most of them are bots that will never signup for anything as they are not real.

Or some of the more sophisticated bots will signup and even some will confirm, but you will never get a future open from them again since they are not real.

The other problem is that you can also get tangled up with some sellers who are spamming email addresses, which can damage you, your name, your website, your business, and your wallet.

Other than that, I see no problem.

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tyronne78

8 years ago

Not worth your time and money,it's all junk traffic. You can buy real clicks from Udimi for cheap.

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aizaku

8 years ago

junkady junk junk junk

Personally, I think you're brilliant Chris..

Creating a thread that hits a nerve with so many warriors.

"Fiverr traffic sucks" and "Fiverr traffic is going to hurt your email deliverability rate if that junk traffic does optin" etc....

And they are all right for saying so...

Have a good one,
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Chris-

8 years ago

Originally Posted by aizaku

junkady junk junk junk

Personally, I think you brilliant Chris..

Creating a thread that hits a nerve with so many warriors.

"Fiverr traffic sucks" and "Fiverr traffic is going to hurt your email deliverability rate if that junk traffic does optin" etc....

And they are all right for saying so...

Have a good one,
Ike Paz

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Actually, I was being brilliant in a slightly different way (as well !), as I plan to get traffic via a different method, some of which might be genuine, some of which might be just as bad as from Fiverr, so good to get some responses which helped me think it through and come up with ways I can test it without causing any problems.

have a good one,

Chris

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aizaku

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris-

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Actually, I was being brilliant in a slightly different way (as well !), as I plan to get traffic via a different method, some of which might be genuine, some of which might be just as bad as from Fiverr, so good to get some responses which helped me think it through and come up with ways I can test it without causing any problems.

have a good one,

Chris

Dude,

it would make for a great post. "Traffic from 5 crap sources" here are my results after one week!

it could work..
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Chris-

8 years ago

Thanks for all the replies ! Much appreciated.

Thanks for the comment about Udimi . . . I didn't know about them because I haven't been considering Solo Ads since I did one a while ago and got precisely zero response, so they can be a total waste of money too

Plus Solo Ads obviously mean that opt-ins are likely to be on a lot of other lists on the same subject too, so would be worth a LOT less than a real, original opt-in. But it seems some people are getting worthwhile results with them, so I'll test Solo Ads again at some point, and compare that with buying original leads for the same money, which I'd expect to give better results, but it's worth a test to see the real results . . . assumptions can often be misleading !

Chris

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Chris-

8 years ago

Ha Ha!! I might even do that !!!

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aizaku 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris-

Ha Ha!! I might even do that !!!

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Chris

you laugh, but im dead serious

shit... i might have to make that post... LOL

ok bro, be good.
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Chris-

8 years ago

It does seem that certain results are considerably better from a Thread that I've created, than from replying in other threads, so it's certainly worth a thought !

Chris

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George Schwab

8 years ago

I did try everything including that. it was NEVER worth any money.

there is however an interesting provider at one of the main 5er competitors
that traffic is also massive, but is also legitimate in a way because it loads
in browsers of individual users. so its unique ips traffic.

what can you do with it? you trade it with sites that want unique ip traffic,
and give you small ads like adwords in exchange for it. So you basically
trade traffic for clicks. Not bad, if you do it on a HUGE scale.

Ask webmarke here, maybe he'll charge you for it, or refers you to one
of his courses. Then you add your own spin, by thinking outside of the
box, and before you know it you have a site with a lot of traffic AND real
clicks from real users interested in your stuff.

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ydsimple

8 years ago

I have tried Fiverr services like that and their quality where 0. Use bing ads as cheap source of traffic, you can get clicks for as cheap as 10-15 cents per click.

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EJ Lear

8 years ago

That's if you get signups at all. You could end up with hundreds or thousands of quick bounces, which will tell search engines that your landing page is very low quality, as no one sticks around. Since you mentioned low-quality backlinks, I'm guessing search traffic is important to you. Bounce rate is an important measure of page quality.

I agree with the others, it could do a great deal of damage to your bounce rate and end up doing more harm to your site than good! Hate to see you do damage to your business unknowingly, good thing you asked the question.

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EJ

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Chris-

8 years ago

Yes, I understand that now . . . definitely glad I asked the question !!

Chris

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seobuzz

8 years ago

Everyone here have taken the traditional approach to answer your query. However I will take a different avenue in regard to your question.

The thing is; your site is not like a normal website. It is something like one page site which does not depend on Google for traffic. If your site gets google traffic that is very impressive. However that is very hard to achieve for the category of your site. Now the issues like high bounce rate, low quality links etc matters when you are too much dependent on Google/Search engines traffic; which is not the case for your site.

Hence my opinion is that you can experiment with any traffic!

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EJ Lear

8 years ago

Originally Posted by seobuzz

Everyone here have taken the traditional approach to answer your query. However I will take a different avenue in regard to your question.

The thing is; your site is not like a normal website. It is something like one page site which does not depend on Google for traffic. If your site gets google traffic that is very impressive. However that is very hard to achieve for the category of your site. Now the issues like high bounce rate, low quality links etc matters when you are too much dependent on Google/Search engines traffic; which is not the case for your site.

Hence my opinion is that you can experiment with any traffic!

My apologies to the OP, if your landing page is hosted in another place I would totally agree with seobuzz, but I'd use another form of tracking rather than Google Analytics to keep Google totally separate from the situation (just me, I'm kind of anal that way).

Piwik is a good alternative, then you can throw everything including the kitchen sink at the page :-) It's open source and surprisingly a very nice alternative.

Best of luck Chris!

Peace,
EJ

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Chris-

8 years ago

Great info, thanks guys !!

Chris

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SocialMediaOwls

8 years ago

Getting traffic from sources like Get work done at a discount - DiscountWorkers or Fiverr is ok if you stick to sellers that have good feedback

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aizaku

8 years ago

and this makes me wonder how traffic sellers on fiverr get such high reviews if they are generally selling bot traffic or I-dont-really-care bounce traffic..

interesting....

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Chris-

8 years ago

Yes, interesting indeed . . . plenty of Fiverr traffic sellers with several thousand positive feedbacks. I'd understand a handful of fake feedbacks . . . paying your friends to buy your Gig and leave positive feedback, but one with 33k perfect feedbacks, from different people. Seems like that might be worth testing, on a page fully isolated from Google !

thanks every one

Chris

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Chris-

8 years ago

As suggested, I tried to do a live Case-study with cheap Fiverr traffic.

But unfortunately, for some reasons, the thread was initially approved, and has now been deleted.

That's what I get for trying to post genuine, helpful information, I guess.

Chris

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johnben1444

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris-

As suggested, I am doing a live Case-study with cheap Fiverr traffic :

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...lts-i-get.html

Follow the thread and see the results as they happen !

Chris

Stop wasting your time on things you know won't work. If it is true, they would be using it to make lots of income too.

Some solo ads works for squeeze, you are better off trying one of those.

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Chris-

8 years ago

You seem to be saying that 34,000 people are doing something that doesn't work, at all ??

Most people don't know how to build a list, nor make money from one when they've got one, so it might be workable, and most people would still not make it work, like every other IM method . . . the fact that over 90% of people who try IM, fail, does NOT mean that IM "doesn't work".

I am going to find out for myself

Chris

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Chris-

8 years ago

and as for Solo Ads, I've tried one of those, some years ago, and got exactly zero from it. Does that mean that "Solo Ads don't work?" . . . NO

Chris

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