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I am not new to the world of websites. I have been writing since 2008 for many reputable companies, know basic SEO, I have 12 websites but I must be really missing something. First let me say that I am an authority on my subject with decades of experience. I write high quality articles, add pictures etc. I have old websites and new ones too all on my niche. My question is: what am I missing?

People with 0 knowledge on the subject open a website, write articles on my same subject and bam, they get tons of traffic, social media is sharing their articles left and right and their websites are worth 12,000 in one year. Their articles on the same topic even rank better than mine which were written months prior. My websites which are older, are highly researched and written with authority, are worth half that amount. These competitors have 50,000 likes in just 8 months and they are real because there's real engagement going on, while mine have a mere 1,300 in 12 months.

I need help. If I can add my authority and pick up a few tips from you guys, maybe I can do something about it. Can you please provide me with a checklist on this I need to do to really get my websites going? It seems like lately, only people with good SEO knowledge make it in this fierce competition and all your experience on the subject gets tossed out the window since people can just rewrite other people's articles. Anybody can give me a few pointers? I share on social media, using keywords, started doing infografics, videos, I am posting daily, add great pictures, highly researched articles. What am I not doing that other people do?
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Look up Neil Patel or Brian Dean

    You already have a massive competitive advantage: you are a writer

    Neil or Brian's posts on content marketing (and how it ties into SEO and SMO) should get you up to speed.
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  • Profile picture of the author normanarmstrong
    get the Google Sniper 3.0 Course , learn all you can about SEO and Wordpress blogs, plugins etc. Learn about monetizing your website traffic. Keep pressing on, you're on the right track.
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke Dennison
    Check out the growth hacking section on the Warriorforum. Great stuff there for massive growth.
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  • Profile picture of the author shaunybb
    Hey there


    Write less and promote more the articles you have already!


    I write one exceptional article instead of 10 average ones and I use email outreach


    and networking to really get the eyeballs on my content!!


    Just one tip for you
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    the question is, what are doing to promote ur content?

    you say you're an authority but are niche related sites featuring you or quoting you?

    if the answer is no, then i recommend you connect yourself with content hungry reporters and bloggers.

    You can do that here:

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    https://www.helpareporter.com/

    besides that, you can get others to share your content. I do that here:

    Viral Content Buzz | Social Media Sharing Made Easy

    and dont forget to reach out to the people you outlink to in each post, ask them to share you're new content since its a win / win.

    best of luck,
    Ike Paz


    PS. i also recommend you read up on neil patel's case studies: https://www.quicksprout.com/blog/
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    How are you driving traffic to your site??
    Or are you just focusing on the website and hoping the traffic comes?
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  • Profile picture of the author anoopncp
    If you can share your website that would be good to have a look. Also whats your website niche?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    Unfortunately, quality of writing, authority and experience, ability and other things like that, don't count for much in the real world these days.

    This is because, in almost any area, there is over-supply, compared to demand.

    That means, what works in practice is MARKETING.

    Indeed, I've heard it said about personal life-coaches, that the better they are, the less money they make, and the more money they are making, the less good they are . . . because the money made is about marketing, not actual ability, and people tend to have one or the other, rarely both.

    This can be frustrating when you'be got talent, ability, experience and skills, but as you say, other people with much less of all of those things, make much more money. I know, because this applies to me in several areas

    So, what you need to do is either learn about marketing effectively (such as SEO), or work with someone that can help you do that.

    One approach . . . post on the JV Forum here, and find someone who can effectively promote what you're doing, and share the profits. Make sure you research them properly before you agree to work with them, as some people there can just waste your time (and money, as I know from experience!), but if you work with the right people, you could both do really well from it.

    Hope that suggests some possibilities

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Rottiegal, the problem may reside in areas yet to be considered here, and if I'm right then no amount of SEO or other traffic-generation tactics will resolve that problem. Thus far, from what I've read, it's been assumed that you have a decided advantage over the competition due to your ability to write well and with authority. This may not be the case. In fact, from experience I can tell you that just the opposite may be true, and I'll expand further in a moment. If we ignore your need to learn traffic methods, just for a minute, you may first need to consider and address 7 elements.

    1. Writing for socials, search, and humans.

    We write a blog post in order to encourage desired actions from socials, search engines, and people, and so each blog post you write must be engineered to achieve desired actions from all three.

    2. Website design.

    A weak web design can affect a number of key actions that we desire; it can affect conversions, SEO, social growth, newsletter growth, bounce rate, bookmarkers, to name only 6.

    3. Blog post aesthetics when shared.

    A plugin like Yoast SEO can help when it comes to designing how you wish blog posts to look when shared on socials, but you still need to know how to engineer a design to encourage social engagement.

    4. Host performance; especially speed.

    If your host is generally slow or gets overclocked at times, then this will affect bounce rate, which will in turn affect SEO, but the problems are wider still: conversions, social engagement, audience perception.

    5. Knowing how to elecit desired actions from the audience.

    I touched on this in 1 above, but it's likely your biggest problem, and it's certainly the most important blogging skill to know, so I'll go a little deeper. We often assume that knowing our subject-matter is enough. Not true. It represents just one piece of a much larger puzzle. The larger puzzle: what do we want from our audience? We wish to address many of their needs. We wish them to engage (comments) and to share (virality). We wish them to take action on monetizations. We may wish them to upgrade to our newsletter. We wish them to follow us on key socials. We wish them to find value in our words and to learn to trust them. I could go on; point is, though, you need to know how to elicit these things, and more.

    6. Growth of "seed locations" that you control.

    The easiest way to generate a viral reaction to your media is to have control over high-follow seed locations in order to set-off the viral reaction. Example, you have a 50K Facebook page. You infuse your latest blog post with virality and you share it to your FB page (you seed it) and, thus, you encourage a reaction (engagement: likes, comments, shares) designed to turn that media viral. If you lack such a location, you need to be seeding to non-owned locations, and doing so in the right way. Seed locations come in many forms. 2 biggies: email list and socials.

    7. Monetization strategies.

    A poorly monetized property can kill most desired elements: conversions, growth, upgrades, being the big 3. Are you over-monetized? Are the ads relevant? Are the offers good? (Because bad offers will reflect negatively on you.) Are the ads located correctly? Do you blend the ads? Own a banner farm? Does the wording of the ads put off your audience? Are you rotating ads? Many areas to consider here.

    Consider the 7 - before you consider traffic.

    I would look into the above, Rottiegal. To do otherwise would potentially be a bit like expecting an old Minnie Cooper to compete in the Indy 500; due to any of those 7 elements, your blog may not be able to grow online, no matter how hard you hurl traffic. When you've addressed the above, then you move onto traffic tactics. I write about them a little on WF, so perhaps have a look there, and just spend a little time deciding on your first tactic. I say that because you really need to master one tactic at a time. I would start with FB (not FB Ads). Learn how to grow large pages and groups, and learn how to generate engagement and virality from your media. If you can master FB, you'll find other socials much easier.

    Best of luck!

    - Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    I won't be surprise to see new sites outranking you.

    I have lost count of how many times I have seen complaints like this and the OP's own site is nothing that special either. We often hold a bias towards things we have created when comparing them to competitors.
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  • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
    Since you are writer, and you mentioned you already know SEO Basics, I am assuming you are optimizing your articles.

    On page SEO alone wouldn't take you far, make sure you have an off page SEO strategy, and the time to execute it or have someone doing it for you.

    You need backlinks that has both domain and page authority, the best way is to create level 1 backlinks from sites with high DA, and build the PA of those backlinks. to increase your site Domain Authority (DA), and page authority (PA)

    The backlinks should be diversified, some are easier to create than other, so make sure you don't get sucked up in creating easy backlinks. You need backlinks from social media sites, video sites ( think you type), infographics, directories,. .. the list go on ).
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  • Profile picture of the author bleght
    Writing is only a small part of the equation of making a site popular. Long gone are the days when you could write "high quality content" (whatever that is) and just sit and wait for people and search engines to discover how awesome it is and start promoting it for you. When you say your websites are high authority, what do you mean? You need to measure that in a tangible way and I get the feeling that you aren't and this is probably part of the problem. You expect tangible results from a strategy that is probably not that clear to you. You need to have a very clear growth strategy and to work on it, not just write articles.

    There are 3 main sources of traffic you might have for your website and most probably your competitors are utilizing all three of them.

    1. SEO

    What you need to do is not just know basic SEO, but learn serious SEO and make it work for you. There are many things you need to do besides post an article on your high authority blog. In a way, you can't really claim you have a high authority blog until search engines and/or a large number of people agree that you do. Until you get there, you have an undeveloped blog, even if it's old and full of high quality content.

    2. Social Media

    Having success on social media is all about building an audience. You should build up profiles and pages on all kinds of platforms and make sure that they are growing and engaging with people interested in your topics. Success here doesn't happen overnight either and again, you need a sober long-term strategy.

    3. Paid Traffic

    I don't mean purchasing low quality traffic on fiverr or whatever here. I mean advertising. If you are not growing fast enough organically, you can always fan the flames with a few bucks spent smartly. Keep in mind that when spending money you might end up wasting not just your time but your cash as well. Companies that have a product to sell have an advantage here, because they tent do have much higher ROIs than ad supported blogs, so they can afford to spend more on getting and building up an audience. That's why many bloggers start developing their own products sooner or later, it's just a good way to profit.


    Bonus strategy to get you started: Forum Posting

    If you are having trouble to get a website going, you can get some initial traction by registering accounts in related forums and posting helpful posts there, sharing your website and articles from time to time only when appropriate. If you cannot have some initial success with that strategy, it usually means that your content is not of the required quality and/or doesn't suit the target audience and might mean you would need to get back to the drawing board and reevaluating all assumptions you might already have about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author BeckettR
    Making your site visible to people is what I think needs to be your problem. If your site is not visible there is no point of putting good content and pictures. Make your site and content visible:

    >> Create Link Resources (Make sure all websites are of good quality)
    > Post on Forums
    > Post your website on bookmarking sites
    > Post on Image sharing sites
    > Post on Website Directories
    > Have a Content Outreach Strategy
    >> Have engagement on all social media sites by posting interesting topics and boosting it.
    >> Check what your competitors are doing and what you are missing in your part.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi Rottiegal,

    I have been there

    I know how frustrating this feels.

    A few things.

    "I share on social media, using keywords, started doing infografics, videos, I am posting daily, add great pictures, highly researched articles. What am I not doing that other people do?"

    * you're sharing on social, which is awesome. But do you promote 5, 10 or 20 other influential bloggers/writers from your niche on Twitter every day? You should. Because as 1,2 or 10 of these folks become your friend over time - because you promoted them freely and commented on your blog - a handful of these folks will promote you, expanding your reach and helping you set the foundation for a growing business.

    * Keywords, IGs and videos, very good. Keep doing that stuff.

    * Posting daily. All well and good, but is it a 1,000 to 2,000 word long, thorough resource that links in to other authorities in your niche? Link to these folks. Tag them on social media. Help them. Keep helping them. Build bonds. Make friends. Over time, these folks will grow your writing biz 1,000 times more quickly than you could on your own.

    Read an awesome post by Jon Morrow yesterday.

    He noted how he struggled like hell - even when he had a huge online rep - getting hundreds of visitors to his blog daily versus thousands, because nobody knew who he was.

    Then he befriended successful, authority bloggers from his niche, by commenting on their blogs and by promoting them, over weeks, and months, and these folks promoted him, endorsed him and helped build his blog and business like crazy.

    Same deal with me.

    I commented on Zac Johnson's Blogging Tips for months, promoted him, and 1 day he asks me to become a writer.

    You got the writing gig down cold.

    Now it's time to build relationships with power brokers through blog commenting, social media and email.

    Help them. Assist them. Promote them.

    If you have any questions about how to do the networking thing right I have a bunch of eBooks - 126 - and quite a few blog posts that delve into relationship building.

    Happy Connecting

    Ryan
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  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Hi rottiegal,

    There is a huge difference between "basic SEO" and full fledged marketing.

    Basic SEO will get your web pages indexed and perhaps ranking somewhere in SERP. However, it's important to note that most organic search engine traffic (~90%) will go to the top 2 position in the SERP. If your pages are not ranking in a top 2 position for a number of important keywords then your competitors will be killing you in the performance category. That's basic math and there is no escaping those statistics.

    The key to taking your web traffic to the next level lies in your marketing skills.

    There are tons of great content in all competitive niches that barely gets noticed. You problem is not unique. You often need to marry great content with excellent marketing to achieve success of any significance.

    Now I know you think that your content is great, and for someone that thinks exactly like you do it is probably the best. However, it is not only possible, but highly likely that much of your targeted audience does view your content with the same high regard that you do. It is entirely possible that they would rather see content formatted more like the competitors' content that is outperforming yours. That's where marketing comes in to make a difference.

    First, I have to ask if you know exactly what marketing is, because many people have only a vague idea of what marketing is and no idea whatsoever how to wage a successful marketing campaign.

    So what is your thoughts of what marketing is?

    Many people might answer that question with something that is akin to the definition of selling, but marketing is not selling, there is a significant difference. The goal of selling is to generate revenue by making a sale. The goal of marketing is to improve the efficiency, or profitability, of your business by optimizing your promotional messages and methodologies of delivering your messages to increase revenue volume. Sales and Marketing go hand-in-hand, but they are different activities with different goals.

    The science of Marketing can and should applied to content marketing campaigns. You should be segmenting your audience and then testing different types of content and formats to see which types each audience segment prefers. You can then generate more of what your target audience prefers and improve performance.

    Make data driven decisions rather than relying on your own biased judgments.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Wright
    I understand your pain.

    So here's my thoughts.

    When starting out, normally no one but you, your dog and your mom will ever really visit your page.

    So instead of putting all of those very well written pieces of content on your blog for beethoven to see, I say you pitch them to larger, more frequented blogs that already have the audience with which you are after.

    So yes, stop writing for your own blog, go cold turkey, from this point on you should be working tirelessly at getting content on other more established sites.

    Make sure to include a link to your email optin page.

    Once you have a few hundred subscribers or so...

    ... THEN YOU CAN BEGIN WRITING FOR YOUR OWN SITE AGAIN.

    You will see more quality results so much faster and easier his way.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by rottiegal View Post

    I am not new to the world of websites. I have been writing since 2008 for many reputable companies, know basic SEO, I have 12 websites but I must be really missing something. First let me say that I am an authority on my subject with decades of experience. I write high quality articles, add pictures etc. I have old websites and new ones too all on my niche. My question is: what am I missing?

    People with 0 knowledge on the subject open a website, write articles on my same subject and bam, they get tons of traffic, social media is sharing their articles left and right and their websites are worth 12,000 in one year. Their articles on the same topic even rank better than mine which were written months prior. My websites which are older, are highly researched and written with authority, are worth half that amount. These competitors have 50,000 likes in just 8 months and they are real because there's real engagement going on, while mine have a mere 1,300 in 12 months.

    I need help. If I can add my authority and pick up a few tips from you guys, maybe I can do something about it. Can you please provide me with a checklist on this I need to do to really get my websites going? It seems like lately, only people with good SEO knowledge make it in this fierce competition and all your experience on the subject gets tossed out the window since people can just rewrite other people's articles. Anybody can give me a few pointers? I share on social media, using keywords, started doing infografics, videos, I am posting daily, add great pictures, highly researched articles. What am I not doing that other people do?

    None of that ranks pages on Google SERPs.

    You need a well structured site, optimized webpages + internal links and strong followed backlinks from other relevant domain pages.

    Social sites are nofollow links so they're not ranking any self hosted money pages. Those types of links might as well not even exist as far as SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    While it might be true that the first two search positions get 90% of the traffic, it is still certainly possible to make good money from a website without getting those positions.

    This is because the long-tail keywords can give you plenty of traffic. For example, I owned affiliate sites where none of the main keywords for the sites were even on the first 10 pages, yet was making good money from them, because of long-tail keywords, such as variations on the names of product or other unusual phrases.

    Google says that more than half the searches it handles, have NEVER been searched for, ever before. So the main keywords are very far from the whole story.

    I've also read others saying that they get plenty of traffic even though Google says that the main keywords for their website, have "zero searches", so it's not just me with this experience.

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by Chris- View Post

      While it might be true that the first two search positions get 90% of the traffic, it is still certainly possible to make good money from a website without getting those positions.

      This is because the long-tail keywords can give you plenty of traffic. For example, I owned affiliate sites where none of the main keywords for the sites were even on the first 10 pages, yet was making good money from them, because of long-tail keywords, such as variations on the names of product or other unusual phrases.

      Google says that more than half the searches it handles, have NEVER been searched for, ever before. So the main keywords are very far from the whole story.
      Hi Chris,

      Wouldn't it be even more important to rank in a top position for long tail keywords?

      After all, the reason they are called "long tail" is because they each individually provide relatively little traffic as compared to the keywords that you get most traffic from, right? Traffic from low volume high commercial intent keywords can often convert at well above average conversion rates. Competition is often more intense for well known long tail keywords that convert well, especially in lucrative market niches. Even so, they are often well worth the extra effort to win a top SERP position. However due to the relatively low search volume you need to rank for a lot of them to dominate your market niche.

      Sure, if you are a tiny business trying to survive off the crumbs left behind by the giants in your industry, that tiny stream of traffic and conversions can be enough to keep you alive and perhaps even prosper, but certainly not at the same level as those that are dominating your niche. If you ever have to go head-to-head in competition you are likely to get drummed out of the business. It's only when your competitors perceive you as too small and insignificant that you needn't be concerned by your competitors' potentially predatory strategies.

      Obviously, every niche is different and will have different participants, market sizes and competition levels. What applies to one niche may not apply to the next.

      Originally Posted by Chris- View Post

      I've also read others saying that they get plenty of traffic even though Google says that the main keywords for their website, have "zero searches", so it's not just me with this experience.
      I assume that when you say "the main keywords for their website" you are referring to the keywords that the webmaster is trying to target, and not the main source of traffic, right?

      Obviously, a keyword that generates no traffic is not helping you at all. If you are getting traffic from search engines then it is being triggered by at least one or more keywords that your page is indexed on.

      Perhaps the person that made that assertion did not understand the difference between search terms and keywords?

      A "search term" is what users type into the search box. "Keywords" are what your web page are indexed for within the search engine's database. Whenever the search engines considers your page's indexed keyword(s) relevant to the search term it will potentially trigger a listing in the SERP.

      The ranking of your web page listing within the SERP will vary from one query to the next depending on a number of factors. SERP are "personalized" making the ranking variations even more numerous. One searcher might find your web page listed at position #1 while another searcher may never see your webpage listed in the top ten, even when they search the exact same search term as the previous user that found you listed at the top.

      Also, please be aware that there are folks that do not know how to distinguish bot traffic from real visitors, many will even insist they have traffic when it is nothing but their own internal visits and Ghost spam (faked visits) that show in Google Analytics stats.
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  • Profile picture of the author enjamulahsan
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    Its better to share your website then experts could suggest you the ways to get started with it. Also you can hire someone who could help you to do something for your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author rottiegal
    Thank you all for the many responses. Apparently, there are many things I haven't done much and need to learn more about such as contacting more the people I link out to and asking them to post my articles on their websites or at least sharing them on their social media. I link exclusively to authority websites, organizations etc and not sure if they have the time or will to do this, but when I find a product that I think is helpful, I should contact the sellers/bloggers more.

    I have only done this once, and the product owner was thrilled, shared the article a lot and then is even printing it out and offering it when they go out to events to all the people. So I guess this is something I must do more. I wonder if there are actually any directories of people writing on particular niche looking for others to exchange links?

    I have done Facebook ads, but only do a couple of dollars a day during the weekends due to budget issues. So perhaps my low budget is a factor as to why I am not able to grow as other websites do.
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  • Profile picture of the author koolman2000
    The solution to your problem might be SEO. Search engines such as Google and Bing always look for high quality content. Remember one thing - Content is King. But how do you define "high quality content"? That should be something that helps people. People type in search terms in search engines because they want to look for something that can help them. Search engines want to fulfill their needs. You write high quality articles and I assume your articles help people too. That should be a huge advantage. But how do search engines know your websites can help people? You should consider 2 things:

    1. Use the right keywords
    Search engines want to know whether your content is relevant. Find the right keywords with a keyword research tool. You should not target those popular keywords because they are way too competitive. Try target low competition keywords, and only target one keyword per article. Insert the keyword somewhere in your article title and somewhere in the first couple of paragraphs. Don't spam your entire article with the keyword because that will ruin your rankings. Although low competition keywords bring you less traffic, but imagine this, if you write 100 articles and target 100 keywords, that will bring you a lot of traffic too.

    2. Engagement
    If your website gains a lot of engagement, search engines will see this as helpful content and rank your website higher. Try to encourage your readers to add comments or ask questions and always response quickly to their comments and questions. Also leverage Facebook, Google Plus and Twitter and encourage engagement within them.

    Actually there are a lot more to learn. You should get some useful tips from online resources.
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