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9 years ago

Why do many people do it? Because they're idiots. Same reason the vast majority of people who try Internet marketing fail.

The best way to make money online is to build a business that genuinely provides value to a targeted group of people. Then scaling and growing that business.

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Michael Meaney 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Gambino

The best way to make money online is to build a business that genuinely provides value to a targeted group of people. Then scaling and growing that business.

That's it.

The get rich quick scammers don't stay in business for long. It's easy to see who's legit.
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Catherine Bueno

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Gambino

Why do many people do it? Because they're idiots. Same reason the vast majority of people who try Internet marketing fail.

The best way to make money online is to build a business that genuinely provides value to a targeted group of people. Then scaling and growing that business.

True, true, true.

The best and most effective way to make money online is to create value with your products! Give something important and greatly helpful to people!

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DeeToltz 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Gambino

The best way to make money online is to build a business that genuinely provides value to a targeted group of people. Then scaling and growing that business.

Well said! Do anything other than this, and you'll struggle building a sustainable moneymaking business.
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nicolasmd2112

9 years ago

Some "Gurus" will tell you that's how to do it. Just buy this training that shows how to make your own IM product and so on....how about you just stick to the niche that works for you. IM just happens to be the most saturated, so 99% of newbies get caught up in it, then blow all of their money trying to promote less than valuable products to other newbies with shiny object syndrome.

The IM market is the easiest to get into as well. With places like the WF making it easy for people to pump out products every single day, and platforms like JVZoo, and W+ being predominantly IM product filled, there aren't really any other niches with that type of accessibility.

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George Schwab

9 years ago

Originally Posted by lkjackson321

I have a nice 2016 mustang and money

I think you're qualified to join them.

"Get a 2016 Mustang in 24h After Reading This Report"

you know it will sell, but if you dont tell your readers exactly
how to do it, you will get 89% refunds, and will be banned
from clickbank

thats the problem with your idea, it has to actually work

win-win is when everybody makes a profit, not only you.

That's the difference between "Business" and "BS"

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DIABL0

9 years ago

I have been promoting CPA offers for over 16 years. More specifically, I mainly promote PPL (pay per lead...lead generation) offers. This is because there is no credit card / purchase required to complete an offer. All a user has to do is fill out a form, so conversion rates are typically much higher than an offer that require a purchase.

I also promote free signup (dating for example), free trials +s/h (ecig, weigh loss. etc) and a very small number of offers that require a purchase.

Everything I promote is based on offers that are going have the path of least resistance to getting conversions and will have the highest conversion rate.

For me, make money online offers aren't even close and I have no interest in them.

By no means am I say it doesn't work, there are guys killing it. But the average person has little chance of making it happen. Statistically, something like 90%+ fail with in 4 months. So I wouldn't agree that selling MMO products is the way to go.
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  Originally Posted by lkjackson321
  
  What kind of ppl companies do you promote for? How do you get In?
  
  The easiest way to get PPL offers is to signup to CPA networks.
  
  You can also try and find / contact the owner of the offer and see if you can get the offer directly from them. The advantages of this is you should be able to get a higher payout.
  
  You can also develop your own offers and find buyers for the leads. This is the most work, but provides the greatest rewards. Also, you can try and setup your own affiliates.
  
  I favor offers that have a make, get or save money angle / benefit to them. Some of the verticals are: insurance, education, debt, mortgage, loans, credit, assistance, etc...
  
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winsoar

9 years ago

It really depends which marketplace you are in. For example, on Facebook the best products are about Facebook. On YouTube, the best products are about YouTube, ie. how to get more views, more subscribers, etc.

So I would say be platform specific whatever you intend to market, and be passionate about it!

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JohnMcCabe

9 years ago

Some time ago, I saw a video ad with a gooroo wannabe sitting in a hot sports car with an even hotter girl in the driveway of an impressive McMansion. Something looked familiar, so I indulged my curiosity and did a little digging.

Long story short, the McMansion was for sale and the video shot during an open house. The car and the girl were both rentals.

It may appear that the best way to make money is to swipe someone else's work and fake your success, but that's at least partly because that's what you want to see. Get out of the sketchy parts of the IM neighborhood and you'll find real people building real sustainable moneymaking businesses.

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Jonathan 2.0

Banned 9 years ago

It's all about providing value to your Marketplace. If/when you do that, people will happily pay for what you're offering.

As Eben Pagan put it, instead of trying to get 1 Million people to give you a dollar, provide $100 worth of valuable information as ask for $10 in return.

Jonathan

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shadeofinfo

9 years ago

"lol so why do many people do it?"

Because they're lost souls that want to really take the easiest way out to succeed. But, they never end up succeeding.

I think too many people are hung up on getting money the easy way that they don't know that it actually takes work to succeed. And only when you start a business that genuinely provides value to a targeted group of people, like Gambino said, will you see success.

Other than that, it's all B.S.

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9 years ago

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9 years ago

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Most self-promotors just link to their site as if it's not theirs. You were kind enough to provide a tracking string with yours.

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Don't worry, I gave up reporting posts some time ago.

I didn't. Post reported...

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aizaku

9 years ago

read up on them and see if they make money outside of IM.

it's easy to discover if they do or not..

-Ike Paz

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hooty

9 years ago

Originally Posted by lkjackson321

Alright everyone I'm going to get straight to the point. The best way to make money online is to sell "how to make money online" products. Straight up. Is this not true? I see tons of people take someones money making strategy and just sell it themselves. Record a video with yourself flashing cash and a nice care and sales start rolling in.

What are your thoughts?

It really seems like this is the number one way most people make real money online. Its ridiculous. So i'm thinking about doing the same. I have a nice 2016 mustang and money so I will just flash it record a video and just copy someone elses product. (obviously it ridiculously wrong) lol so why do many people do it?

Actually you do make sense .... I see most of the products offered is about making money online ... and then later after buying, you go and create the next "make money online" product to sell .... its a cycle.

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Tony Marriott

9 years ago

Originally Posted by hooty

Actually you do make sense .... I see most of the products offered is about making money online ... and then later after buying, you go and create the next "make money online" product to sell .... its a cycle.

That's because you are looking for 'how to make money online'.

If you were looking for how to play golf you will see mainly (guess what) How to play golf products.

How to make money is only one niche. TBH I don't have the statistics but I am pretty sure it it's NOT the biggest money maker on the internet.

But it is an area where any wannabe can get started for almost zero investment ($7 WSO and a hosting account).

However the vast majority of those will never make a dime let alone create a regular business.

I'm guessing though that it would be the same story whatever they tried to do.

Unfortunately, for many, it's the lure of 'quick riches' and the unreasonable belief that that successful businesses do not require any work. Or maybe they just don't want to work?

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Steve B

9 years ago

Originally Posted by lkjackson321

so why do many people do it?

They do it because they erroneously believe, as you do, that "The best way to make money online is to sell 'how to make money online' products."

This forum is all about making money online so that's what you're exposed to when you're here . . . however . . .

There is a huge marketing world out there in which millions of products and services are sold every day that has nothing to do with making money.

You've got blinders on and you're only focusing on one tiny corner of the worldwide Internet marketplace.

Please don't go into anything related to making money - with your mindset you will fail.

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Bill Jeffels

9 years ago

So, you're admitting you're just going to copy someone else's product and sell it as your own? Ok.

I see you've checked your morals at the door. Even if you do this when people get the product, if you've copied anyone's of significance, they'll eventually find out. Then you'll have charge backs out the wazoo.

I'm guessing the mustang is leased?

Bill

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shazshaz

9 years ago

from my experience
the diet niche is much bigger, a little tougher to start with, but can be a goldmine with the right product & marketing

the dating niche is the easiest to sell as affiliates,
compared to the "easy make money online", the competition on the make money is moving fast, and every good move is copied by several people

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Internet Trillionaire

9 years ago

If your IM product can make the person who buys it money consistently, then you are able to make a lot of sales and get positive reviews.

Rehashing someone else's IM product and passing it off as your own information, will backfire on you. Especially if you haven't yourself made any money from applying the methods contained in their course you're rebranding as your own work.

Your clients won't get the financial results promised in your course and your name and reputation will get tarnished in your niche, before you can even grow your online business

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William Waltham

9 years ago

Doing what you suggest may make you some quick cash, but it won't build a sustainable business. What will you do when your customers catch onto you and realize your product is a sham? You'll have probably spent the cash you made, and wrecked any trust you may have built online. Who will trust you to buy from you again? It's better to build something honest that works if people actually do it, than to mislead them for a quick buck.

Incidentally, I've never been impressed by those photos and videos of people with their shiny new cars. It just seems arrogant, and like they're saying they're better than their potential customers because they have that car. I don't like it.

I DID make a video of my cat rolling around in a pile of cash once (I'd spiked the cash with catnip beforehand), and it was pretty funny. But, I only used it for my amusement and my family's. It was never a marketing ploy, though I suppose it could be used for one if I wanted to go that route. The Internet seems to LOVE cats.

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randyman

9 years ago

Not quite understand your post, OP. Are you ranting, asking, commenting, or what?

People have been doing that stuff since ... 1995

What else is new?

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Alexis Gil

9 years ago

Maybe it's popular way, but not the honest one. As for me it's more better to create something personal and make money with it. Let others copy you.

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Soulstreak

9 years ago

And if you are really smart you will know which of these to buy and some might actually help you (most will be the same thing repackaged)

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hynds

9 years ago

This "making money" niche still popular and always hot from 9x till now. Everyone want to make money

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jinmin

9 years ago

Focusing on solving people's problem, and that's how money is made. Of course teaching people how to make money online is also a way to generate money on the internet, but scamming people with useless course with the intention to take their money is not only not going to work, it's outright unethical.

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bluemotion

9 years ago

Originally Posted by lkjackson321

Alright everyone I'm going to get straight to the point. The best way to make money online is to sell "how to make money online" products. Straight up. Is this not true? I see tons of people take someones money making strategy and just sell it themselves. Record a video with yourself flashing cash and a nice care and sales start rolling in.

What are your thoughts?

It really seems like this is the number one way most people make real money online. Its ridiculous. So i'm thinking about doing the same. I have a nice 2016 mustang and money so I will just flash it record a video and just copy someone elses product. (obviously it ridiculously wrong) lol so why do many people do it?

You might make a few bucks to begin with but people will quickly see that you're just another 'guru' dishing out rubbish to make a fast buck. That is not a sustainable business.

And it won't do your reputation any good.

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George Schwab

9 years ago

i think i should start a new program:
how to take everybody
off the IM marketing cocaine

and start making some real money

they all have that angle: BUT

did they actually deliver?

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discrat

9 years ago

I guess the flashing of Money and exotic cars stil work. I saw someone doing it at Warrior +.

Kind of took me for a loop. But still it is not effective as it once was. I will never be able to grasp my head around it. I know Alex Jeffrey still does it. Of course he does back it up.
But still a big turnoff to me

- Robert Andrew

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surfer30

9 years ago

Hey

You need to Provide tons of Value to make sales. it would be GREAT to make something that help people and solve their problems instead of stealing other's work. if you want to make a millions dollar online you need to figure out how to provide 1 million dollar of value to your clients.

Give something important to people

You can sell something to people BUT nobody will buy shit from you. If you have a Great idea and audience this why not launch your own product and make sales.

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Mastery1 9 years ago

@surfer30

Exactly.

Too many IM have the "take mentality."

"What can I take" "How can I get money."

Instead, provide as much value as possible, build trust, and than start selling.

Works a lot better and you can build a relationship with your readers that allow you to sell them for years to come, instead of just one sell.
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EPoltrack77

9 years ago

I think any business that makes you a profit is a good one. Many needs to be provided today more so than ever before.

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Digitallabz

9 years ago

RE: "Record a video with yourself flashing cash and a nice care and sales start rolling in."
My opinion: People today are actually looking for legitimate ways to make money online, and flashing cash and a nice car just screams "I am a scam."
If you are a network marketer, people would want an insight to your 'process' and see the timeline from where you started to how much you were able to make 4-6 months after, then annual growth of income. People would actually want to see the success replicated by your downline.

RE: "I see tons of people take someones money making strategy and just sell it themselves. "
My opinion: They would have to demonstrate that they were able to 'duplicate the success themselves' and not just regurgitate the strategy. They should show their own proof of income.

Many people could try this scam but I doubt it if many would also be earning real money.

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9 years ago

I see those cash and car stuff posted in instagram sometimes but they don't convince anyone. Who would actually want their name associated with something so ridiculous? It would destroy their credibility.

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ramonavandusen

9 years ago

Those aren’t fine odds for anybody. But when times are bad, sometimes things can’t get much worse – especially for persons who’ve lost their jobs and perhaps even their homes. So the prospect of starting a new selling just isn’t as risky as it might otherwise be. Moreover, for many persons, creating their own job becomes their only choice.Though, there are plenty of jobs that are considered “recession proof,” such as plumbers, morticians, accountants, and grocers, there are also plenty of weird and wacky new selling ventures that have thrived in a down economy.

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