How are all these people $$$ in IM - it seems a little unbelieable...

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Am I missing something here..

How is it that I am working 50 hours a week and I'm earning good money and I have just seen a post where someone is making millions in IM.

Is this for real?

Honestly, I don't want a quick fix but it does seem a little crazy that there is so much hype around these sort of posts.
#$$$ #people #unbelieable
  • Profile picture of the author MValmont
    Because you have a job. Your boss is making money, you don't.

    If you want to make money, the fastest way to get there is to start a business. Read a book called millionaire fastlane for an in depth explanation.

    There are people out there making millions per day. You never hear about them because you don't hang out with them...It is not part of your reality.

    I've said multiples times on this forum that it all starts with the beliefs. The beliefs that you have will reflect the quality of your life. A lot of people don't agree with that (mostly people that are not making money anyways), but it is true.

    Learn the mechanics of money and you will make money.

    There is a lot of money to be made online, it is a fact.

    Just look at the Forbes list of billionaires. If someone told you the stories of these billionaire you would probably think this is all hype too, but it is not. It is real. There are people in this word that are making a lot of money..
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve L
      Originally Posted by MValmont View Post

      Because you have a job. Your boss is making money, you don't.

      If you want to make money, the fastest way to get there is to start a business.
      Not necessarily. Timothy Ferris' "4-Hour Work Week" explains how it's possible to have a 4-hour work week as an employee too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Clarence Chan
      Originally Posted by MValmont View Post

      Because you have a job. Your boss is making money, you don't.
      100% the truth.

      But you really have to think and plan your business carefully as it is also a risk, you either earn more money or lose all you have.
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      • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
        Originally Posted by Clarence Chan View Post

        100% the truth.

        But you really have to think and plan your business carefully as it is also a risk, you either earn more money or lose all you have.
        The risk is worth it don't you think Clarence.

        You can always make more money if you lose it, if you don't risk it all you will never know.
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    It all comes down to one simple question; "What is YOUR time truly worth?"

    Considering that most people are trading their time for a paycheck, it really doesn't surprise me that most people cannot conceive the thought of making 6 or even 7 figures per year.

    While I am not quite there yet myself, I believe; "Those who recognize what their time is truly worth will often seek the means to educate themselves to work less, whilst earning more in a shorter time period. (hint: By doing the work 1x and then creating recurring income streams from those efforts.)

    The simple mathematics of calculating 10 years working 40 hours per week... at $50 per hour, 50 weeks per year... would net you $1,000,000.00 in 10 years time. Note: That's $1M before paying your taxes, deducting your commute to and from work, deducting your personal living expenses, and any other personal or work-related items you deem necessary to live your chosen lifestyle.

    In short, you'd likely be a far cry from becoming a millionaire working the 40 hour work week, even if you made $50 per hour for a full 10 years of dedicated service. Most people make less than $15 per hour, so do the math! (*Unless of course, you made some wise investments in either yourself or an innovative start-up...or maybe started a marijuana dispensary, or modeled after Trump in the real estate game, etc...)

    But, if you were savvy and found the "logical means to sell" say; 1000 products at $2000 each in say a years time, and your costs was $1000 to generate each sale...you would net $1,000,000.00 in a year.

    " I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience" - March 23rd, 1775 - Patrick Henry's speech; "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death!"

    Someone on this very forum once advised me to determine "How much money I truly desired to make in the next 5 years?" and then "reverse engineer" the process, as if to be planning a flight . Clearly, if you want to get somewhere, you'll need to map out the course, prepare, and determine everything you'll need... before ever starting your trip, right?

    Same applies in business. You have to know how much money you want? how you intend to manifest that money? and what product(s) and/or service(s) you intend to provide to attain and sustain that financial goal?

    Perhaps, Napoleon Hill said it best; "If you can conceive it, and you can believe it, you can achieve it."
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by art72 View Post

      It all comes down to one simple question; [B]"What is YOUR time truly worth?"

      Same applies in business. You have to know how much money you want? how you intend to manifest that money? and what product(s) and/or service(s) you intend to provide to attain and sustain that financial goal?
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      I understand the reverse engineer concept and do this already in the work I am doing, it just seems unbelievable to me that this sort of million dollar figures have longevity.

      I am but a sponge and will continue to read and learn more about this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paperclip
    When you stop working for money and make money work for you you will make millions.Let me explain your boss doesn't work 50$ an hour job you do it(he makes money by paying you to do the job) and he focus on investing capital to make more money and educate himself...I'd also like to like tsay that if you only want to make millions to buy house or car you are on the wrong road my friend...
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by Paperclip View Post

      When you stop working for money and make money work for you you will make millions.Let me explain your boss doesn't work 50$ an hour job you do it(he makes money by paying you to do the job) and he focus on investing capital to make more money and educate himself...I'd also like to like tsay that if you only want to make millions to buy house or car you are on the wrong road my friend...
      I work for myself and I don't have the desire to make millions - it's not actually necessary in my lifestyle. I have a house, car and have the lifestyle I enjoy. I started to work for myself only to have a good balance, not squillions. Everyone has a different motivation. It just seems like there are a lot of people on here talking about making millions and I'm curious if this is actually the case.

      I am just honestly interested if there is merit in these claims.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by TeaCozy View Post

        I am just honestly interested if there is merit in these claims.
        Nearly 20 years ago I went to a business opportunity seminar with a friend of mine who was already doing quite well financially.

        I was surrounded by perhaps 30-40 people at this meeting who seemed to also have been doing exceptionally well.

        At the end of the presentation the speaker then started asking the audience about some of our dreams and goals.

        One young guy (perhaps still under 20), said he had a goal for becoming a millionaire by age 25.

        Most of us started laughing (including myself) at what was apparently just a star-struck kid caught up in the fervor of hype.

        But there were a few who did not laugh at the kid. As it turned out, they didn't laugh because they themselves had become millionaires (one a multi-millionaire) at that age.

        Fast forward 20 years later, nearly all did become millionaires (some multi-millionaires) through the internet. None were involved in the IM niche itself, however.
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        • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          Nearly 20 years ago I went to a business opportunity seminar with a friend of mine who was already doing quite well financially.

          I was surrounded by perhaps 30-40 people at this meeting who seemed to also have been doing exceptionally well.

          At the end of the presentation the speaker then started asking the audience about some of our dreams and goals.

          One young guy (perhaps still under 20), said he had a goal for becoming a millionaire by age 25.

          Most of us started laughing (including myself) at what was apparently just a star-struck kid caught up in the fervor of hype.

          But there were a few who did not laugh at the kid. As it turned out, they didn't laugh because they themselves had become millionaires (one a multi-millionaire) at that age.

          Fast forward 20 years later, nearly all did become millionaires (some multi-millionaires) through the internet. None were involved in the IM niche itself, however.
          Now I'm curious what the niche was... feel free to share
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by TeaCozy View Post

            Now I'm curious what the niche was... feel free to share
            Certainly. This is nothing new from what I've written previously about my marketing style over the years. My preference has always been in the most hotly competitive arenas such as: health and fitness, telecommunications, robotics, astronomy, ancient history, geology, archaeology, medical diagnostic equipment, software, renewable energy, agriculture, apparel, personal development, interior design, weight loss, pharmaceuticals, video games, gambling, golfing, tattoo removal, condoms, circumcision, mammagrams, baby products, baby boomer products, funeral products, sports, security, janitorial services, water treatment, weddings, asbestos litigation, pet services, conspiracies, UFOs, Mayan 2012 calender, end of the world catastrophes. Most of the top sales were either for Amazon or Clickbank products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Is this for real?

    Honestly, I don't want a quick fix but it does seem a little crazy that there is so much hype around these sort of posts.
    There's a lot of hype because people want to believe it IS real...and they jump in hoping the money rubs off (it doesn't). It's funny to watch on a forum at times - people believe you when you tell them what they want to hear.

    That's not to say there aren't people earning seriously good incomes working online - but they are in the minority and it doesn't happen overnight. Many who work online also have offline jobs because they like the work they do and the steady income.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      There's a lot of hype because people want to believe it IS real...and they jump in hoping the money rubs off (it doesn't). It's funny to watch on a forum at times - people believe you when you tell them what they want to hear.

      That's not to say there aren't people earning seriously good incomes working online - but they are in the minority and it doesn't happen overnight. Many who work online also have offline jobs because they like the work they do and the steady income.
      Yep, I think I am more on your page with this Kay.

      I worked both a full time corporate job and set up my business to get a stable footing before launching my business full time and I know nothing comes overnight and without a serious amount of sweat.

      I think I will just sit back and soak in the hype, it's a little amusing really.
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  • Profile picture of the author shaunybb
    Hey there it's real and if your thinking about this take action!


    Are you interested in affiliate marketing? Or do you want to make money writing online?


    Maybe you like some arbitrage or maybe you want to sell websites?


    Find what you want to do take action and be consistent and you will make money!


    How long will it take? Well it takes some people years and others months, but let me tell


    you this you won't become rich in a matter of weeks!


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  • Profile picture of the author Zoe_21
    Are you referring to the post titled: '$7.6 Million in revenue Using Shopify + Facebook Ads in the last 10 months'?

    If so, did you see that the total sales figures are in rs (India Rupee)
    currency not (USA) dollars?

    Looking at the Google converter tool today, 1rs = 15c (usa)

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    Is this for real?
    Why cant millions (regardless of the currency) be made in IM?
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    • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
      Originally Posted by Zoe_21 View Post

      Are you referring to the post titled: '$7.6 Million in revenue Using Shopify + Facebook Ads in the last 10 months'?

      If so, did you see that the total sales figures are in rs (India Rupee)
      currency not (USA) dollars?

      Looking at the Google converter tool today, 1rs = 15c (usa)

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      Why cant millions (regardless of the currency) be made in IM?

      I read that post and thought the guy was full of crap. Because I know someone that is doing like $400K per month doing shopify and it took him way longer than 10 months to get to where he is at. Plus, he has a bunch of VA's that help run the business,which is why he is able to do it. So 7.6mm in 10 months, I was like B.S.

      However, 7.6 million rupee is only about $114K USD. So that is totally possible.

      There are plenty of internet marketers that make millions. However, the reality is that like 90% fail within their first 4 months.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I work for myself and I don't have the desire to make millions
    I can identify with that. I earned an income for years online and I love the freedom of working when I please (though "working in my underwear" is not my thing) and I like working alone. I didn't live a high maintenance lifestyle, had no desire for big houses or fancy cars and no need to impress anyone. I liked working with a cat on my lap and a dog under my desk and a view of trees out the window. I liked working as long as I wanted or needed to - and not working when I didn't feel like it.

    There is a low barrier to entry in internet marketing....very little investment required to get started. Most of the info you need is free as are many of tools you work with. You don't have to have a degree or skills - you can jump right in.

    My suggestion is to pick one method of internet marketing that interests you - and learn everything you can about that one thing. There is no reason to jump on every new shiny object or know about every method of making money there is.

    Sit back and read a while and find some method of IM that interests you - then focus only on that one method until you master it (note: I didn't say 'until you succeed'). Sometimes you can do everything right and it still won't work. If you keep at it you begin to have "aha" moments and gain traction.
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  • Profile picture of the author zdebx
    Originally Posted by TeaCozy View Post

    Am I missing something here..

    How is it that I am working 50 hours a week and I'm earning good money and I have just seen a post where someone is making millions in IM.

    Is this for real?

    Honestly, I don't want a quick fix but it does seem a little crazy that there is so much hype around these sort of posts.
    What's so surprising about that?

    Once you have figured out what works for you, it's all about scaling the numbers. Granted, if you are in the right niche, the traffic is there for the taking. If anything, nowadays there are more people using the Internet, than ever before, so that makes it even easier.

    And those who make millions today didn't start marketing 2 months ago....They've been in this business for a very long time, so keep that in mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by zdebx View Post

      What's so surprising about that?

      Once you have figured out what works for you, it's all about scaling the numbers. Granted, if you are in the right niche, the traffic is there for the taking. If anything, nowadays there are more people using the Internet, than ever before, so that makes it even easier.

      And those who make millions today didn't start marketing 2 months ago....They've been in this business for a very long time, so keep that in mind.
      Yes, I understand your point. It's just surprising to me because in most cases there must be a catch of some sort.

      Can people really make millions in a few months? Even if you've been in the business for a very long time, unless you are one of a handful of very, very successful people the world the likelihood of banking millions in a short period of time is less than promising.

      I know these stories are a hook and when you drill into the details the headline may not appear as it seems. I am obviously new to all of this and I am just curious how many people are genuine and how many are fantastic at creating a catchy headline..
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      • Profile picture of the author zdebx
        Originally Posted by TeaCozy View Post

        Yes, I understand your point. It's just surprising to me because in most cases there must be a catch of some sort.

        Can people really make millions in a few months? Even if you've been in the business for a very long time, unless you are one of a handful of very, very successful people the world the likelihood of banking millions in a short period of time is less than promising.

        I know these stories are a hook and when you drill into the details the headline may not appear as it seems. I am obviously new to all of this and I am just curious how many people are genuine and how many are fantastic at creating a catchy headline..
        John Reese made over $1m in less than 24 hours in 2004, so there's nothing to be surprised about. Here > John Reese: A Million Dollar Man

        But again, he's been in online marketing since the 90's, so that's the "catch", if you can call it that...
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        • Profile picture of the author davejarvys
          Originally Posted by zdebx View Post

          John Reese made over $1m in less than 24 hours in 2004, so there's nothing to be surprised about. Here > John Reese: A Million Dollar Man

          But again, he's been in online marketing since the 90's, so that's the "catch", if you can call it that...
          You'll often see the 'Million Dollar Day' type headline in IM but without details it's meaningless. If that's gross then who cares.

          It's easy to make a million if you are spending 999,999 on acquisition (or more).

          Secondly that 'cathch' is quite important. Time frames seem very subject as they ignore the time to build a list, nurturing affiliates and creating the product they are selling.

          On Friday I made 10k off a single tweet. I could easily call it 'The 10k Tweet' and flog it.

          I think that would be misleading as that tweet was only possible due to the 6 months of work I've put in.

          People however want the dream of 'The 10k Tweet'.
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          • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
            Originally Posted by davejarvys View Post

            You'll often see the 'Million Dollar Day' type headline in IM but without details it's meaningless. If that's gross then who cares.

            It's easy to make a million if you are spending 999,999 on acquisition (or more).

            Secondly that 'cathch' is quite important. Time frames seem very subject as they ignore the time to build a list, nurturing affiliates and creating the product they are selling.

            On Friday I made 10k off a single tweet. I could easily call it 'The 10k Tweet' and flog it.

            I think that would be misleading as that tweet was only possible due to the 6 months of work I've put in.

            People however want the dream of 'The 10k Tweet'.
            Dave you've hit the nail on the head with your lucrative tweet - this is exactly what I am trying to get across. For this sort of result you've probably put in hundreds of hours of work and when people insinuate that it's simple, quick and takes as long as putting together a simple tweet together is misleading and that's what ticks me off.

            Well done to you for your success, sounds like you've have a great week.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shawn Arms
    I'm sure you can. Just not often and some folks just strike gold in business. Some folks have gotten rich with very little effort and some work 80 hours a week with no return. Sometimes that is just how it happens..
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  • Quite honestly - I haven't had to have a full time job for 15 years, pretty much soley by making it online. (From time to time I do take part time jobs for fun. Last one I think was 2-3 years ago for a couple months).

    Interestingly enough, almost nothing of it has been from the "how to make money online" niche, nor has it been from tools/etc in that niche. (Yes, I have that in my sig, but because I was running an experiment to see what I could do from that). All the income I've generated online has been from other products and services that people value.
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  • Profile picture of the author neshaword
    Some people are desperate, others are naive, finally, these money killers are shameless. When I hear or read some of these stories, I always take them with the grain of salt. I believe that is possible to make some money, but some amounts are truly ridiculous. So, I simply refuse to believe. If that's preventing me from becoming truly successful, then let it be. If I am ever to make some serious money, the last thing to do about it is to brag around. That's all. Cheers.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by neshaword View Post

      Some people are desperate, others are naive, finally, these money killers are shameless. When I hear or read some of these stories, I always take them with the grain of salt. I believe that is possible to make some money, but some amounts are truly ridiculous. So, I simply refuse to believe. If that's preventing me from becoming truly successful, then let it be. If I am ever to make some serious money, the last thing to do about it is to brag around. That's all. Cheers.
      Good point. I know that it's part of trying to sign up affiliates and the whole idea of splashing the cash is a technique for reeling people in but it does just seem unreal.

      I'm really only new to IM and I am only feeling my way around but it can be a little disheartening as it just doesn't really seem to be a possibility. I'll continue to learn and listen to what everyone is talking about however the sensationalism is a bit much.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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    For every individual making millions in IM there are millions more that aren't making a dime and a relative few that if they are lucky are making something resembling a decent living.

    There's a lot of BS, hype and false promise in life. Tread carefully, lest you become one of those that accomplishes nothing more than contribute to someone else's million $$$ jackpot.

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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    Think if you had 500 people or affiliates going out marketing your product or service. All it takes is a couple of good super affiliates...
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by EPoltrack77 View Post

      Think if you had 500 people or affiliates going out marketing your product or service. All it takes is a couple of good super affiliates...
      Unfortunately, daydreaming about what 'could be' won't put a single penny in your pocket. Better to have 50 real affiliates that are producing than 500 that don't exists in real life.

      The real problem with affiliate marketing is you are always depending on the results of others for your livelihood. That is not something I could ever be comfortable with. I prefer to sink or swim on what I do personally, as I have learned over the decades that I am the only person on the planet I can totally depend on.

      Added: Not that I haven't let myself down on occasion, but at least when I give myself a real good talking-to, I actually listen to myself. lol

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  • Profile picture of the author WaywordInk
    Of course it is really possible to make money online and to make millions online. We have had plenty of clients that do so on a continuous basis. The key is you're not going to make a million dollars overnight online. There is no get rich quick scheme. If you put in the work and split test, you will see profits.
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  • Profile picture of the author susovan mishra
    Thats quite crazy, here i am working for 15 hours out of 24 hours to make a decent money from Blogging and some guys are such a genius that they are making millions!

    I definitely would like to know the trick or tips, if anyone making this much or less than this please help me out as working for 15 hours at a stretch is very difficult as i am getting very less time for myself
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by susovan mishra View Post

      Thats quite crazy, here i am working for 15 hours out of 24 hours to make a decent money from Blogging and some guys are such a genius that they are making millions!
      Both you and the OP seem to have a mindset that can only lead to failure. Just because you work long hours doesn't make success an entitlement.

      When I first started out with internet marketing, I made my first million dollars within 4 months, and the first three months were spent planning.

      My plan from the beginning was to write 1-2 articles per week and distribute them to online/offline publications which were read by my targeted demographics and influencers.

      For any given commercially viable niche (some of which are listed in my previous post), there may be thousands or even hundreds of thousands of publications which are already targeting repective reading audiences.

      Articles need to engage your audience and not be superficial or appear self-serving. Articles that educate, entertain, inspire, and evoke emotion are especially effective for inducing the desired outcome.

      This marketing model (article syndication) is a time-proven system used by savvy marketers long before the internet. It's such a simple concept, yet has produced more multi-millionaires than any other marketing system that I know.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by susovan mishra View Post

      Thats quite crazy, here i am working for 15 hours out of 24 hours to make a decent money from Blogging and some guys are such a genius that they are making millions!

      I definitely would like to know the trick or tips, if anyone making this much or less than this please help me out as working for 15 hours at a stretch is very difficult as i am getting very less time for myself
      15 hours a day writing blogs is epic.

      Is there any way you can diversify what you are doing so you can set up additional revenue streams ?

      You must be exhausted.

      I try and only work 6 hours a day as I can't concentrate and make silly mistakes if I do it much longer than that.

      IM and affiliate marketing may be something you should look into - if you're willing to dedicate that many hours per day to writing it could be a way to increase your income opportunities.
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  • Profile picture of the author marks2424
    I know exactly what you mean it is hard to believe but there are a lot of people making very good money on line. Sure some of the stories seem odd like one I read about where the guy makes like 3 grand a month selling a book on Chinese fighting fish or something like that and to me I think who the hell wants a book on something so odd.

    However just because I think it is odd and maybe most other people think it is odd doesn't mean there aren't millions of people out there that like those things. I mean there are 7 billion people on the planet with a lot of different interests so who knows.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by marks2424 View Post

      I know exactly what you mean it is hard to believe but there are a lot of people making very good money on line. Sure some of the stories seem odd like one I read about where the guy makes like 3 grand a month selling a book on Chinese fighting fish or something like that and to me I think who the hell wants a book on something so odd.

      However just because I think it is odd and maybe most other people think it is odd doesn't mean there aren't millions of people out there that like those things. I mean there are 7 billion people on the planet with a lot of different interests so who knows.
      Yes of course, that's true.

      I read on here someone started out in IM selling nappy cakes - it's all relative based on your audience.

      I think it is the unbelievable stories that are the issue for me. I get that there are a lot of people making huge money - the law of averages would allow that when the audience is so massive, however the stories are so sensational. I know the marketing style hooks people in but when you're starting out this in your face approach is a little daunting when you're barely making enough to put food on the table.
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  • Profile picture of the author Splatterfox
    The funny thing is that many many people will advertise and glorify the "entrepreneur lifestyle", saying that 9-to-5 jobs are shit and basically a thing for people who don't know better.

    Reality is that most of these don't make any money and just have the illusion of being financially successful because they operate in their respective fields a lot but barely make more than an average employee.

    That doesn't mean that they are wrong in general - I also don't like typical 9-to-5 jobs - but they are often neccessary to build your investment budget and depending on your situation you HAVE to rely on a secure source of income.

    @Topic: there are plenty of people making millions "just" with IM - but at the same time there are plenty of top level managers, CEOs, brokers etc. etc. who do this as well. If you are extraordinary good in your thing (and if there is demand for it !) you will make tons.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by Splatterfox View Post


      @Topic: there are plenty of people making millions "just" with IM - but at the same time there are plenty of top level managers, CEOs, brokers etc. etc. who do this as well. If you are extraordinary good in your thing (and if there is demand for it !) you will make tons.
      Good point.

      I've been around plenty of CEO's in my time that are wizards at what they do and the reason why they are successful is that they have mastered their chosen craft.

      They know the business, they get the audience, they know the customer buying patterns, they do the research, they are constantly testing... the works and this is for online and offline businesses too.

      Success is amazing, I would just love a little more of the struggles getting to the top of the mountain to be showed to present a more realistic representation of what success is and how it's achieved. The old overnight success card is a little old.
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  • Profile picture of the author bashca03
    Yes, it might seem unbelievable but it is possible. Only a handful of people are really able to make the big bucks because they focus on what matters, they have discipline and they learn the tricks of the trade. Not everyone has the capacity to do all of those which is why the majority remains reliant on their paychecks.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    If I may stick my 2 cents in.

    So many people get caught up thinking that they have to sell something to make money online.

    I heavily promote PPL(pay per lead...lead generation) offers, for the sole reason that there is no credit card / purchase required. All a user has to do is fill out a form, so conversion rates are typically much higher than offers that require a sale.

    I favor PPL offers that have a make, get or save money angle / benefit to them, as they overall worked the best for me and tend to have the greatest mass appeal. So the potential exists to produce high volume and they are fairly easy to cross promote.

    The bulk of the leads that I generate payout $20-$40 each. However, promote offers that pays less and more. Some examples of the verticals I have done well with are: insurance, debt, credit, mortgage, loans, education, assistance, homeowner offers, etc...

    I was very fortunate that when the internet was starting to become popular and if you had a 24 baud modem, you were rocking it. I knew the value of leads to companies and created my own offer and sold the leads to a company that was spending $20 each for TV leads and I sold mine for $16 and they were just as good. Needless to say, I killed it and have been doing it ever since. Then once CPA networks started popping up, it became even easier.

    Until you actually find a system that actually works and start making a bunch of money, it seems so unrealistic. Which is why there are so many naysayers and some will just flat out call people a liar.

    Back to the point I was trying to make about PPL offers. It's so much easier to get someone to fill out a form, than take out their credit card and make a purchase. It's simply the path of least resistance to getting conversions / $$$.

    Anyway, something to think about.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by DIABL0 View Post

      If I may stick my 2 cents in.

      Back to the point I was trying to make about PPL offers. It's so much easier to get someone to fill out a form, than take out their credit card and make a purchase. It's simply the path of least resistance to getting conversions / $$$.

      Anyway, something to think about.
      Wow - I'm glad you did put your two cents worth in.

      That's an incredible story - well done.

      I hadn't thought about that side of things, yet I have filled in plenty of these forms in the past and it's not even crossed my mind about the mechanics behind it.

      Thanks for sharing your perspective.

      I am certainly not bagging the people that have made it successfully to bring in the big bucks, it's interesting to hear how people are doing it when the story ends up being true in some cases.
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      • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
        Originally Posted by TeaCozy View Post

        Wow - I'm glad you did put your two cents worth in.

        That's an incredible story - well done.

        I hadn't thought about that side of things, yet I have filled in plenty of these forms in the past and it's not even crossed my mind about the mechanics behind it.

        Thanks for sharing your perspective.

        I am certainly not bagging the people that have made it successfully to bring in the big bucks, it's interesting to hear how people are doing it when the story ends up being true in some cases.

        Another thing to think about is creating your own PPL offer(s).

        So many people think you have to create a product. With lead generation, all you have to do is create a form. Now you have to optimize it, so it converts well and you need to have a way to sell the leads.

        If you can do that, it's not hard to find affiliates to promote the offer. I'm a mailer (I monetize data using ppl offer) and mailers are always looking for a good converting offers to promote. Those that know what they are doing, can generate $10K-$100K+ per month, depending on what level they are at.

        Plus you get to keep 100% of what you generate from the thank you traffic and you keep a copy of all the data and can monetize it.

        Regardless what side you are on, if you are promoting offers or your the offer owner (or both), it can be big money!
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  • Profile picture of the author alldigitalbiz
    Dear Friend
    Let me tell you that is for real, Many marketers including me are making a lot of money online, this is the result of hard work and dedication.
    I would not want to work for a stranger again, making him rich and working for others goals. This is not for me anymore.
    Many people ask me the same question, is this possible? and my answer is Yes, yes, yes. It is not easy but very possible.
    Give this a try.
    Good Luck
    Andres
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by alldigitalbiz View Post

      Dear Friend
      Let me tell you that is for real, Many marketers including me are making a lot of money online, this is the result of hard work and dedication.
      I would not want to work for a stranger again, making him rich and working for others goals. This is not for me anymore.
      Many people ask me the same question, is this possible? and my answer is Yes, yes, yes. It is not easy but very possible.
      Give this a try.
      Good Luck
      Andres
      'what' exactly should I be trying Andres?

      I agree with you, I would rather work for myself rather than making someone else rich, I did this for someone else and have had many jobs in the past where this has happened and although I get bonuses and incentives and a regular paycheck, it's not my kind of work.

      I appreciate you have had success - however how did you get there?

      Did you have challenges ? Or was it all smooth sailing and happened overnight?
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by TeaCozy View Post

        I appreciate you have had success - however how did you get there?

        Did you have challenges ? Or was it all smooth sailing and happened overnight?
        Without exception, those who have achieved uncommon success have all had to overcome challenges, disappointments, major setbacks, and often even personal tragedy on the road to their success.

        If you haven't done so already, I highly recommend reading (and applying) "Think and Grow Rich" by Napoleon Hill. This book shows the traits of high achievers and how they made such accomplishments.

        In addition, consider reading books by Donald Trump for contemporary attributes required for high success. Most people are unwilling to pay the price of success.
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    • Profile picture of the author aizaku
      Originally Posted by alldigitalbiz View Post

      Dear Friend
      Let me tell you that is for real, Many marketers including me are making a lot of money online, this is the result of hard work and dedication.
      I would not want to work for a stranger again, making him rich and working for others goals. This is not for me anymore.
      Many people ask me the same question, is this possible? and my answer is Yes, yes, yes. It is not easy but very possible.
      Give this a try.
      Good Luck
      Andres

      the main point is we don't trade time for money..


      we create assets that provide cash flow passively..


      create a system that coverts (target traffic - squeeze page - email funnel)

      -Ike Paz
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      • Profile picture of the author customerblast
        Originally Posted by aizaku View Post

        the main point is we don't trade time for money..


        we create assets that provide cash flow passively..

        Well said.

        You will never become wealthy if you are being paid for your timely solely, the whole point here is to create streams of passive income, but heres the secret...

        it takes the opposite of being passive to make passive income happen. its a hell of a grind frankly but its a life changing achievement.
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  • Profile picture of the author opensourcenetork
    Internet marketing is a sort of passive income stream, if done right. Brush up on your internet marketing knowledge and you might just stumble into a gold mine in the form of niche waiting to be cultivated and grown. There are many people who attempt on doing this business but there is an element of grit involved, and not to mention a little bit of luck.
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  • How did you know these people you are talking about? Maybe you should seek them out, personally ask them on what made them successful and be ready to work your way through it. They are not overnight successes and I am pretty sure they still continue to work on improving their marketing techniques.
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  • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
    Don't always believe peoples "income claims" in this niche. You have to do a lot of research and find credible people to verify if their income claim is legit.

    Don't focus on them. Focus on yourself. Focus on getting better at direct-response marketing. Get better at email marketing. Get better at driving traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Edwin Torres View Post

      Get better at email marketing. Get better at driving traffic.
      Two good things that wrap it up nicely, at least for me and I'm sure for a number of others
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy McLean
    There is a really good video by Brian Tracy called Secrets of Self Made Millionaires. He really breaks down what it takes to get there. It's free on YouTube.

    He says if you learn just one new skill it could double your income. And all skills are learnable.

    One example is Mike Geary who markets Truth About Abs on ClickBank. He mastered paid traffic and media buys and ended up making 1 million per month selling ebooks.

    There is an interview with him by Tim Ferris on the 4 Hour Blog. He said it took a number of years to get where he is.

    When he was first starting out he was willing to work personally with affiliates including myself. When he helped me with my PPC campaign my sales immediately jumped to 4 figures a month.

    Why? He knows what the hell he was doing and is damn good at it.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by Randy McLean View Post

      There is a really good video by Brian Tracy called Secrets of Self Made Millionaires. He really breaks down what it takes to get there. It's free on YouTube.

      He says if you learn just one new skill it could double your income. And all skills are learnable.

      One example is Mike Geary who markets Truth About Abs on ClickBank. He mastered paid traffic and media buys and ended up making 1 million per month selling ebooks.

      There is an interview with him by Tim Ferris on the 4 Hour Blog. He said it took a number of years to get where he is.

      When he was first starting out he was willing to work personally with affiliates including myself. When he helped me with my PPC campaign my sales immediately jumped to 4 figures a month.

      Why? He knows what the hell he was doing and is damn good at it.
      Hey Randy

      That's pretty cool you were able to work closely with Tim Ferris, his ideas are really interesting to me.

      I guess it comes down to being open and learning from the people around you and sharing that knowledge which is why Tim is doing so well.

      Each and every time I make steps to shortening my work week I get a little excited as I hope to eventually be in a similar position.

      Thanks again for your comment.
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  • First and foremost, verify your sources. If the information you got is legit, that could already be an opportunity for you to know how they do it, and get them as your mentor. Now, if you got these figures over some suspicious website offering help on building your own stream of income which will make you super rich, then be careful not to fall victim to the trap. Internet marketing can earn you money given the right set of tools and a lot of patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Doug A
    Yes it is possible to make a fortune with Internet Marketing today. But it needs a person with a vision, a very good idea that can solve other people's problems, the right attitude and drive forward, a mindset that are solid and believe that the goal will be reached on a specific day. Willingness to work very hard but also smart... that person also need an unyielding belief that he/she will succeed. And remember: One good idea can make you a millionaire.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Jeffels
    Just because you can't fathom it doesn't mean it's not happening.

    Some people believe they are million dollar people and some people believe they are 5 figure people.

    There's nothing wrong with it. That's just the way it is.

    Bill


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  • Profile picture of the author esk
    yes, there are a lot of people who are makeing a killing online. but don't belive the "I will show you how to make millions in 3 days in my 27$ ebook" type of shit.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by esk View Post

      yes, there are a lot of people who are makeing a killing online. but don't belive the "I will show you how to make millions in 3 days in my 27$ ebook" type of shit.
      Me either - it does my head in.

      I just can't believe people buy into it though.

      There must be a market for it otherwise there wouldn't be so many people flogging the whole idea of it off.
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  • Profile picture of the author DRP
    Originally Posted by TeaCozy View Post

    Am I missing something here..

    How is it that I am working 50 hours a week and I'm earning good money and I have just seen a post where someone is making millions in IM.

    Is this for real?

    Honestly, I don't want a quick fix but it does seem a little crazy that there is so much hype around these sort of posts.
    It's all bullshit, that's why. Don't listen to anyone that tells you otherwise...they're either stupid or shilling. Remember: anyone can pretend be anything on the internet.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by DRP View Post

      It's all bullshit, that's why. Don't listen to anyone that tells you otherwise...they're either stupid or shilling. Remember: anyone can pretend be anything on the internet.
      HA! seems like you're not a fan of IM DRP.

      Hopefully I can see the difference between what is real and what is all a marketing game, but I just find it incredible even on WF that there is so much discussion and ads even on get rich quick.
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  • Profile picture of the author ocomok
    There are plenty of ways "these" people could get to where they are right now and how they got their current source of income. Internet marketing is the way to do business now, and if your business is not being marketed in the world wide web how are you so sure you are selling?

    Anyway, going back to the point, there are several possible ways people earn, there's affiliate marketing, selling their products or services online and etc. The possibilities are endless for those who are ready to do the hard work.
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