There is no such thing as EASY money... why does everyone keep on going on about it?

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Why does everyone keep banging on about easy money - there is no such thing.

I am all for the idea of making an easy buck one way or another but the truth is, it doesnt come easy. Even those of you out there making the big bucks now would have had to start somewhere.. it didnt just start out of a big puff of smoke.

There seems to be a few people out there touting that you can make piles of money without basically working more than a few hours a week.

Granted I understand if youre an investor and you have worked your tail off for years and years and youre sitting on some solid investments that provide good returns thats one thing and I know in some cases this is a similar set up in IM, the crux of the matter is, there would have had to have been some bloody hard work behind the scenes to get there.

While its hard to not get distracted by the gurus, Id prefer to hear the realistic side of the business and not the lofty millionaire stories of the super rich telling me that my bank account is about to go gangbusters if I start selling one simple product.

Lets be honest, the path to success is time-consuming and like every other job you have to start from the bottom and make your way up.. this process can take years and it aint all going to be easy.

My take on this (and I am only early into running my own business) would be to aim to do the following:
  • Maintain a slow pattern of growth and refine your service as you grow so you can recognise and react to opportunities
  • Invest in support whether it be casual or part time etc as you need it - human capital will be needed at some point- not everything can be automated
  • Make sure your cash flow is working for your business
  • Have a plan for your business - dont just fly by the seat of your pants

The idea of responsible speed of growth is something I really like the sound of - but thats a discussion for another time.

Whats your take - are you REALLY making easy money.. or is it all a bit of a show..
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  • Profile picture of the author Shawn Arms
    Yes and no. I worked full time and started doing some part time work online, brokering, fiverr stuff, etc. It was only harder money cause I had to work full time but in truth once I found and caught my swing it is easy money for the most part. I work like 15 hours a week and make all the money I need to live off of.
    You just got to find what works for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author SummerDaze
      Originally Posted by Shawn Arms View Post

      Yes and no. I worked full time and started doing some part time work online, brokering, fiverr stuff, etc. It was only harder money cause I had to work full time but in truth once I found and caught my swing it is easy money for the most part. I work like 15 hours a week and make all the money I need to live off of.
      You just got to find what works for you.
      Yes, but you got to this point by putting in the hard yards didn't you? Working two jobs essentially while you set everything up.

      That is more my point.
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  • Profile picture of the author gpacx
    I honestly don't believe anyone who says they are making easy money, and it's kind of because of the whole concept of an overnight success and what it means to be that or achieve that. A lot of people are making a lot of money but let's be real for a second, the vast majority of people have no idea what easy money looks like or what it takes to make it.

    There are plenty of people who aren't making very many hours and basically have a great lifestyle business that lets them do whatever they want and still make money. It can't be that easy though, considering that 99% of people never achieve it and end up working for somebody else instead of living their dream lifestyle from money that they made for themselves and continue to make.

    Starting out is never easy and you have to do so many things that have never been done before in order to be successful and actually break ground and start generating a lot of income and being successful. Even things that are theoretically easy are actually really hard to accomplish. The truth is that once you put the time in and actually become an expert in your field and you can add tremendous value to your own business very easily because you totally understand the systems you've put in place, it's now much easier for you to make money where it would be so hard for someone else.

    When I started as a Freelancer, I found it very difficult to get decent paying work, and I couldn't get enough contracts per month to sustain a reasonable lifestyle so I gave up. Now, I get more than enough to do just fine for myself. The market hasn't changed but I've developed the skills that I need and making money is a lot easier.

    If you sustain the effort, not only is your business going to grow but you're actually going to grow with it, improve at your role and what you do and where you add value and you're going to feel like it's much easier than before to get great results.
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    • Profile picture of the author SummerDaze
      Originally Posted by gpacx View Post

      I honestly don't believe anyone who says they are making easy money, and it's kind of because of the whole concept of an overnight success and what it means to be that or achieve that. A lot of people are making a lot of money but let's be real for a second, the vast majority of people have no idea what easy money looks like or what it takes to make it.

      There are plenty of people who aren't making very many hours and basically have a great lifestyle business that lets them do whatever they want and still make money. It can't be that easy though, considering that 99% of people never achieve it and end up working for somebody else instead of living their dream lifestyle from money that they made for themselves and continue to make.

      Starting out is never easy and you have to do so many things that have never been done before in order to be successful and actually break ground and start generating a lot of income and being successful. Even things that are theoretically easy are actually really hard to accomplish. The truth is that once you put the time in and actually become an expert in your field and you can add tremendous value to your own business very easily because you totally understand the systems you've put in place, it's now much easier for you to make money where it would be so hard for someone else.

      When I started as a Freelancer, I found it very difficult to get decent paying work, and I couldn't get enough contracts per month to sustain a reasonable lifestyle so I gave up. Now, I get more than enough to do just fine for myself. The market hasn't changed but I've developed the skills that I need and making money is a lot easier.

      If you sustain the effort, not only is your business going to grow but you're actually going to grow with it, improve at your role and what you do and where you add value and you're going to feel like it's much easier than before to get great results.
      Dude, you're speaking my language.

      It's the starting out part, the learning, the hours and hours behind the desk all the unsexy parts that these people that shout off the roof tops about easy money are neglecting to mention.

      It just does my head in a little as I have slowly learning and crafting my marketing and it feels like there are people that try and suggest that it can be done without a whole lot of work. It's the sweat and tears that makes the success sweeter.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pavs m
    There are a small group of people who happened to be in the right place in the right time - with the right business idea and the right group of people to mentor/guide him in the early stage with a huge dash of luck. They are probably less than 1% of millions of other who try their hand at success.

    Most people try to point to this relatively small group of people as a source of reason and inspiration or validity why they will be successful. But the reality is much more difficult than that. You need all the right ingredients to fall in place with almost perfect harmony to be successful (in this case being successful meaning making good money).

    No amount of crazy insane hard work and long hours will make you any more likely to be successful - you will need the luck factor too.

    But it helps to try to hard and try often - you might eventually get lucky if you try often enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Hard and easy are relative words.

    I'd like to say making it is always hard work but I have been on this planet long enough to see some people make good money that they just lucked into (dad got them the job, right place right time, willing to lie or compromise to the top).

    You CAN work smart and make success easier. I don't agree it takes years. Smart will cut time and work.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Hard and easy are relative words.

      I'd like to say making it is always hard work but I have been on this planet long enough to see some people make good money that they just lucked into (dad got them the job, right place right time, willing to lie or compromise to the top).

      You CAN work smart and make success easier. I don't agree it takes years. Smart will cut time and work.
      I do not think there is EASY money. Most of the millionaires I know did not get rich in a week. They all have very horrible stories, and costly mistakes, before they made a killing.

      But you are right I think you hit it on the head, as you say you can WORK much SMARTER, and I basically think success boils down to picking the right people to learn from. Or getting a proper mentor, if that is the way you wish to go.

      At the end of the day, its about connecting, bridging the gap for people, and relationships. Once I was able to do that, things started happening faster for me.

      Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author hbeezy
    I'm convinced that the title of this thread is the pure truth. But, while people have made EASY money on the internet, somewhere they are hiding out with their "top secret" method.

    Everybody keeps talking about it because it's a lie being sold as a truth based off of "proof". If a really successful internet marketer or marketers were to actually show what they did on a day-to-day basis, that would definitely show that the "copy and paste" or "click 2 buttons and make 10k!" products are actually selling lies.

    What the prey don't know is that the marketer was probably building that list for like 5-10 years and then crafted a great promo email to a huge launch. What "copy and paste" method did he use? The promo email (that is, if he didn't craft the email). What two buttons did he click? "Send" and the "x" in the tab. (lol)

    I'm just saying... EASY money seems like a myth to me IMO unless I've been using really bad methods.
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    • Profile picture of the author gregorybair
      I am torn on this issue, slightly, at least. On the one hand I completely and totally agree with you, success is usually the product of hard work.
      If someone has made a lot of money or cultivated a great deal of success, there is bound to be a good deal of hard work behind it, and this is really a good thing.
      The whole point of capitalism and a relatively free market is to have things as balanced as possible, and to give everyone a fighting shot at making some real money. Therefore, it follows that those who have accrued a great deal of wealth must have worked hard for it.
      However, there are those select few who really do have it easy and are making easy money. There are obvious people in this category like people who make money of off royalties—song writers, actors, etc—and then there are the people who through sheer brilliance or by sheer accident stumbled across gold mines. These ideas and opportunities require little investment and yield a tremendous amount of wealth. These are called arbitrage opportunities; the technical definition is as follows: the simultaneous buying and selling of securities, currency, or commodities in different markets or in derivative forms in order to take advantage of differing prices for the same asset. So really what this means is that you find something that can be bought at a ridiculously low price, and then sell the same thing at a greatly inflated price elsewhere. Now I know what you are thinking? Yeah, of course this would be a good idea, but those opportunities are few and far between! Maybe true, but there is a fairly glaring one in the world of online shopping today. Google drop shipping on amazon or ebay to see what I am talking about…
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  • Originally Posted by SummerDaze View Post

    ... it didnt just start out of a big puff of smoke.
    Granted I understand if youre an investor and you have worked your tail off and youre sitting on some solid investments that provide good returns
    there would have had to have been some bloody hard work behind the scenes to get there.
    Well, one thing that I'm doing now is relatively "easy" than the other things that I'm also doing (keyword: relatively) ...

    >> BUT ...

    It doesn't guarantee any profit and doesn't come without any risk ...

    >> It has something to do with buying bitcoins and a semi-automated way of disposing it and compounding my investment to earn up to 20% mark-up per month on top of my investment, which I've been doing for the past few months, but to which I also found out (the hard way) that I can't at one fell swoop invest a huge sum of money in this, because otherwise, I would've invested a significant part of all my dispensible money in this ...

    BUT ...

    >> I spent (and lost) a considerable amount of time and money to test a lot of bitcoin sources and bitcoin selling / trading / exchange platforms to find what I'm using now and to hone my tactics and strategies ...

    Then again, this involves a lot of relevant risk management experience ...

    >> So, for this to be "easy" for others as it's relatively "easy" for me - We need to have the exact same fiscal and non-fiscal resources to do the exact same things at exactly the same time from exactly the same place ...

    Otherwise, as I say - One guy's stupid simple is another's ridiculously impossible ...
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  • Profile picture of the author dana67
    Easy is a good sales pitch, but you'll have to put in some work to make money online. Everything worth it takes effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shawn Arms
    I think you need to research a bit. Learn to think outside the box a bit. Even take these WSOs and get some of the grains of truth out of each one. Then find something that works for you. Take your talent and turn it into a business. I did work hard to be lazy.
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  • Profile picture of the author BlayerTonny
    The more efforts you apply, the sweeter rewords will be.
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  • Profile picture of the author superowid
    "Easy Money" is a simple brand that is easy to be sold to common people by most internet marketers. But to make that "Easy Money" product itself is not easy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Hin
    i agreed there no free lunch in this world. the beginning is always the hardest.
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    "Simple" ways to make Money is quite different than "Easy" ways to make Money

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  • Profile picture of the author apache421
    I strongly agree with you. There's no easy way to earn money. They suck liters of your blood first before giving you salary.
    I personally think that it depends on luck; people who have influential backgrounds are usually the one at high posts or the CEO of some business empire. There is no easy way for less-influential to make it out easily to the rich world.
    Only 2% of people are those who go from none to all, others just struggle all their lives. To me there is no secret ingredient to easy money; you've to work hard to earn it.
    Also i think that it is usually the lack of direction and guidance which enlighten the right track to us. And i also agree with someone's words here about 'right time and right place', everyone's not lucky enough to find it.
    I've started writing content on freelancer but it is quite hard than it seems. All these freelancers who have their videos uploaded to become a successful freelancer in months is just crap! I know it takes time to become a successful person in every field but those who say that "dad's money" doesn't matter, my friend it does! Because if there is any other way then do tell me too.
    Many people kill their dreams because they earn less and have more necessities. It's no bed of roses.
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  • Profile picture of the author ivanadee
    Making money online is not impossible but it is also not easy. We need to invest time and money to learn and when we have sufficient knowledge, everything becomes easier
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by SummerDaze View Post

    Why does everyone keep banging on about easy money - there is no such thing.

    I am all for the idea of making an easy buck one way or another but the truth is, it doesnt come easy. Even those of you out there making the big bucks now would have had to start somewhere.. it didnt just start out of a big puff of smoke.

    There seems to be a few people out there touting that you can make piles of money without basically working more than a few hours a week.

    Granted I understand if youre an investor and you have worked your tail off for years and years and youre sitting on some solid investments that provide good returns thats one thing and I know in some cases this is a similar set up in IM, the crux of the matter is, there would have had to have been some bloody hard work behind the scenes to get there.

    While its hard to not get distracted by the gurus, Id prefer to hear the realistic side of the business and not the lofty millionaire stories of the super rich telling me that my bank account is about to go gangbusters if I start selling one simple product.

    Lets be honest, the path to success is time-consuming and like every other job you have to start from the bottom and make your way up.. this process can take years and it aint all going to be easy.

    My take on this (and I am only early into running my own business) would be to aim to do the following:
    • Maintain a slow pattern of growth and refine your service as you grow so you can recognise and react to opportunities
    • Invest in support whether it be casual or part time etc as you need it - human capital will be needed at some point- not everything can be automated
    • Make sure your cash flow is working for your business
    • Have a plan for your business - dont just fly by the seat of your pants

    The idea of responsible speed of growth is something I really like the sound of - but thats a discussion for another time.

    Whats your take - are you REALLY making easy money.. or is it all a bit of a show..
    I think SOME people when they just start out have unrealistic expectations of what to expect.

    Another thought is that I find this (making money online) much easier than having a job, having to wake up at a certain time, having 2 weeks vacation, etc...
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    • Profile picture of the author Tony Laroche
      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      I think SOME people when they just start out have unrealistic expectations of what to expect.
      There is no easy money online and those of us that have been here for a while understand that.

      New marketers develop unrealistic expectations because that's what they have been told. The moment they go online, they are bombarded with adverts telling them they can make a million dollars just by working an hour a day.

      So they begin their IM journey with unrealistic expectations. With time, and trial and error, they learn and they understand reality.

      Thats why I always tell newcomers to invest time understanding things first before investing their money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Originally Posted by SummerDaze View Post

    Why does everyone keep banging on about easy money - there is no such thing.
    Sure there is. I've been doing what I do for so long... and at such a high level... that I can pretty much do it in my sleep. It is extremely easy for me.

    That doesn't mean it will be easy for you but I know a whole bunch of people in my profession just like me. The key is being willing to work through the times where it's difficult to get to the point where it's easy.


    There seems to be a few people out there touting that you can make piles of money without basically working more than a few hours a week.
    Ever heard of residual income? Whether I work this week/month/year or not my income will be approximately the same as it has been for the past many years.
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    • Profile picture of the author SummerDaze
      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      Ever heard of residual income? Whether I work this week/month/year or not my income will be approximately the same as it has been for the past many years.
      Thanks for your comment, out of interest how long did it take you to get in the position of being able to earn residual income.

      I get the concept, I understand people are able to live on this however the point of my thread is that I believe it probably was a hard slog for you to get in the position you are in today without a bucket load of work.

      Am I wrong?
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      • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
        Originally Posted by SummerDaze View Post

        Thanks for your comment, out of interest how long did it take you to get in the position of being able to earn residual income.

        I get the concept, I understand people are able to live on this however the point of my thread is that I believe it probably was a hard slog for you to get in the position you are in today without a bucket load of work.

        Am I wrong?
        I began earning residual income within the first couple of months... granted, the checks were small in the beginning but have grown to a rather sizable amount over time.

        As for the amount and quality of work I guess it depends on how we're defining the terms. There is nothing about what I do that I would define as hard work. Guys who descend hundreds of feet into mine shafts and emerge covered in coal dust do hard work. Guys who finish concrete in the hot Sun do hard work. Iron workers who build tall buildings and bridges do hard work... while also risking their lives.

        Nothing I do compares to any of that. I'd say what I have done is put in a high level of concentrated repetitive effort over an extended period of time while focused on the two or three things required to be successful in my profession.

        What I've found is that most professions are very much like mine. They don't really require hard work. They require focused effort... and that's where most people find it difficult. They won't commit. They can't focus for more than a week or two. They won't take the time required to master the two or three things that would propel them to levels of success they dare not even dream about.

        My philosophy of life is simple. There are only two reasons to get up and go to work every morning... have fun and make money. If you aren't doing both you're either doing it wrong or it's the wrong thing for you to be doing.
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        • Profile picture of the author amdownsouth
          Extremely well said Mr Tsnyder (especially the last paragraph in your post). To be just a bit more precise, it's not "money" per se that is the motivating factor to get up and go to work every morning. It is the options money provides that makes it worth the effort.
          For myself, I make very little money; an amount that would be considered to be far below poverty level. Then again, I've worked my ass off to get out of debt, negotiated rent for a home that costs very little, have a nice vehicle that's paid for and live a very comfortable life.
          Do I want more money? Absolutely. What motivates me to accumulate more money is to continue the lifestyle I currently have, but do it anywhere in the world I choose, at any time I choose and with whomever I choose to do it with.
          In this day, having two of the most powerful inventions ever brought into existence (computers & the Internet), such a goal has already become a reality for a handful of individuals that have recognized the potential that current technology provides and are living such a life.
          Whomever you are, wherever you might be, if our paths cross, I'd like to buy you a beer while we watch the sunset at "one particular harbor" or pour you a glass of wine as we soak in a hot tub somewhere high in the mountains, look at each other, smile and toast to the thoughts & inspirations shared on the Warrior Forum that brought us to a reality of our own design.
          At that point, I'll no longer be "amdownsouth", I'll be "am down anywhere I damn well choose".
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          • Profile picture of the author SummerDaze
            Originally Posted by amdownsouth View Post

            Extremely well said Mr Tsnyder (especially the last paragraph in your post). To be just a bit more precise, it's not "money" per se that is the motivating factor to get up and go to work every morning. It is the options money provides that makes it worth the effort.
            For myself, I make very little money; an amount that would be considered to be far below poverty level. Then again, I've worked my ass off to get out of debt, negotiated rent for a home that costs very little, have a nice vehicle that's paid for and live a very comfortable life.
            Do I want more money? Absolutely. What motivates me to accumulate more money is to continue the lifestyle I currently have, but do it anywhere in the world I choose, at any time I choose and with whomever I choose to do it with.
            In this day, having two of the most powerful inventions ever brought into existence (computers & the Internet), such a goal has already become a reality for a handful of individuals that have recognized the potential that current technology provides and are living such a life.
            Whomever you are, wherever you might be, if our paths cross, I'd like to buy you a beer while we watch the sunset at "one particular harbor" or pour you a glass of wine as we soak in a hot tub somewhere high in the mountains, look at each other, smile and toast to the thoughts & inspirations shared on the Warrior Forum that brought us to a reality of our own design.
            At that point, I'll no longer be "amdownsouth", I'll be "am down anywhere I damn well choose".
            I agree - money does provide plenty of options and its a massive motivation however its the easiness that I keep on hearing about that is a little unnerving.

            I only really know how to work my butt off and I will continue to do this for a long while I expect. I am happy to do this as my work pays off and offers me plenty of options in life however I could never say its a walk in the park.

            I think it is a little challenging for newcomers who come in thinking they are going to make big bucks in record time.

            I agree we live in an amazing time with computers and the internet and the ability to even have these discussions about flexible work life and IM workloads, that alone is an amazing thing however I do wish people who are going to tout that they are making $6 million a week or whatever it is to put a lid on it or tell us more about how they REALLY did it and stop pulling the wool over our eyes.
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    • Profile picture of the author SantiSantana
      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      Sure there is. I've been doing what I do for so long... and at such a high level... that I can pretty much do it in my sleep. It is extremely easy for me.

      That doesn't mean it will be easy for you but I know a whole bunch of people in my profession just like me. The key is being willing to work through the times where it's difficult to get to the point where it's easy.




      Ever heard of residual income? Whether I work this week/month/year or not my income will be approximately the same as it has been for the past many years.
      This. My partner in crime who does SEO and SEM ( nowadays mostly focused on SEM) starts explaining me what he does in his latest project and i get the concepts easy. When he starts talking about the mechanics of it I start to get lost.

      One day he looked at me and said "Santi, to think only 2 years ago I had absolutely no idea about this stuff seems like an impossible now".

      The thing is he found something he took to heart so much that he spends countless hours on it yet it doesn't feel like "work" to him. Infact his eyes sparkle when he explains to me the hours he put into a project or the hurdles he had to overcome. For him it's a learning experience and a building block to his future and his mind is very much set and at peace in that regard.

      If you can find the one thing that makes you tick, the one where you can do as many hours and put as much effort as needed without hesitating because it simply is "your thing" inevitably leads to a point where you master it to a point where it is automatic to you even if other people find it an insurmountable chore. Very much like going from never having driven a car to pretty much not thinking when you drive after a few years of doing it every day.

      At the same time, when they explain the stuff it sounds so easy because for the person explaining it, it has indeed become easy. It does not mean it will be easy for you or anybody else.

      To me it's find of the flip coin of not charging enough for your expertise because you assume because it is so easy for you everyone should know it and you "feel" you are robbing them if you charge more than X amount. And who hasn't been guilty of that in business...
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      • Profile picture of the author SummerDaze
        Originally Posted by SantiSantana View Post


        At the same time, when they explain the stuff it sounds so easy because for the person explaining it, it has indeed become easy. It does not mean it will be easy for you or anybody else.

        To me it's find of the flip coin of not charging enough for your expertise because you assume because it is so easy for you everyone should know it and you "feel" you are robbing them if you charge more than X amount. And who hasn't been guilty of that in business...

        I know what you are saying.

        It's all relative I guess.

        I think it is great that your friend is so passionate about what he does and I know that my goal is to love what I do so much that I would consider doing it for free. But at the end of the day it's not easy and all of the people who say it is are pulling the wool over our eyes.

        I am all for success, I just don't know success unless it is worked really, really hard for.

        Success is something like climbing a mountain and then realising when you get to the top that there is a whole other mountain range you can conquer.
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    easy money is like fresh air in Beijing China.

    You can get it, but you need to climb to the top Lingshan Mountain for it.

    once you have your system in place.. a constant flow of useful content being posted on your site, an email funnel that delivers high quality content, a squeeze page that draws in leads, high qulaity traffic and a sales page that converts..

    then you can make,dare i say it, " easy money.."

    -Ike Paz

    PS as you can imagine, creating such a system requires work and testing
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  • Profile picture of the author atrbiz
    Making $$$ is not an overnight process, it requires a lot of planning, execution, and consistency. I've been running my own web development company for over 5 years now, and I'm constantly testing new marketing channels, and improving my processes so I can grow my revenue yearly.
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    • Profile picture of the author SummerDaze
      Originally Posted by atrbiz View Post

      Making $$$ is not an overnight process, it requires a lot of planning, execution, and consistency. I've been running my own web development company for over 5 years now, and I'm constantly testing new marketing channels, and improving my processes so I can grow my revenue yearly.
      I constantly grow my business, it's early days but I am already seeing gradual improvements and it is an amazing feeling.

      I agree - it's not an overnight process and the planning is the key.

      Good for you for your success.
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  • Profile picture of the author VidasVegas
    Depends on:

    Your mindset first and second how much value you provide to the marketplace.
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  • Profile picture of the author AriCooper
    The starting shortstop for the Chicago Cubs can easily hit a baseball 400 feet, he's in his early 20's. So if he was showing you an instructional video, it could be headlined:

    "Learn how to easily crush a baseball 400 ft!"

    It took decades for him to evolve his craft.

    Same thing when it comes to earning a living online (Which I have done for over 5 years now)... in the beginning I worked my ass off. 80-90-100 hours week in and week out.

    I learned with trial by fire.

    Nothing ever came easy. It was earned. The thing is...today I could show you a way to easily land a client by this time next week (it's easy for me) or get up a new product in a niche market and easily drive sales on the first day (because it's easy for me)...

    I couldn't say or do these things until I put in the work.

    One last thing, try to limit the "gurus are claiming there are easy ways to make money, screw them!" talk...that only harms your mindset.

    You are part of the situation if you keep buying peddled crap after more peddled crap and then blaming anyone else but yourself for lack success. (this is a generic state OP, just saying "you" in general, not necessarily YOU!)

    No one ever complained about the guys selling shovels to gold diggers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by SummerDaze View Post

    Why does everyone keep banging on about easy money - there is no such thing.

    It's simple really . . . dubious marketers have learned that "easy money" is almost a universal dream and that uninformed buyers will throw caution to the wind and lay down endless amounts of cash to experience that dream for themselves.

    What perpetuates the dream even though hoards of buyers are taken advantage of time after time? It's the buyers of the easy money products that continue to make this false hope profitable for these marketers. If no one gave them the time of day, online scammers would soon be out of business. But people continue to buy from them and keep on hoping for a miracle.

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  • Profile picture of the author HJdev
    Yes, it's easy.
    1. Find out what problems/needs people have. It's just as easy by collecting the complains from people around you.
    2. Solve those problems/needs.
    3. Collect the money. The more people you help, the more you make.
    That's all.
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  • Profile picture of the author matteomatt
    Im actually building my information products in marketing around this concept, that its about learning the business and learning how to make money not reading a 30 page guide and becoming a millionaire.

    Heres my take on it, there is easy money and hard money, but over time the easy money gets less and less available because it gets saturated.

    Heres an example - In 2010 was when I first started IM, I made 40$ in a few days off the content locker ripped CD download method, which is already more than I made this go around with CPA since October 2016.

    The next month I made 4k in a few days off a viral CPALead facebook scam I found on blackhatworld, literally copy pasted although I had HTML / CSS / PHP experience so that did give me an advantage. I also continued to make around 20k over a couple years from spam methods, which isn't alot of money but it was usually 50-100$ a day when I was working.

    On the flip side I never progressed past these shady spam methods, and actually built a real business which would have taken more work.

    I quit in 2013 when my methods dried up and I had to go to rehab anyways lol.

    Flip to 2016 I restarted in September but I started with writing an e-book about my story in addiction and then decided to get back into IM.

    I have made more money selling e-books on amazon and my website than I did with CPA spam and short term traffic methods. I think there is some easy money out there but it seems like you need a good twist or traffic method to make more than 10-20 a day.

    On the flip side if you take time to learn the craft and produce real content, which is what I focus on now.

    So to some this up, there will always be easy money out there, but it seems to require getting lucky and hitting a big method or social campaign, and its hard to quantify that sort of thing. You could surf forums for months and not have a good earning method.

    On the flip side there are proven ways to make money long term, but alot of them take work. I knew how to build websites before i even started IM and it still takes me a lot of time to build a good site. But if you are willing to put the work in and spend your time on the right projects and not time wasters you are guaranteed to eventually succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    'Easy Money' is just a marketing tactic.

    The human mind is programmed in a certain way and if you put out an ad that implies really hard work, long term plan ETC, most people get turned off.

    People want 'instant' gratification (even if they know it's too good to be true).

    Simple is a much better word but in BOTH words (simple and easy) are overused in this industry.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Jackson
    And that doesn't give you any clue whatsoever about human nature? As long as there are people there are ALWAYS going to be large contingent who want something for nothing.

    If you don't believe that you need only look at the staggering numbers of lottery ticket players.

    By that same token, there are ALWAYS going to be a contingent that see the oppourtunity to profit from the sloth of others so the "EASY button" will not be going anywhere anytime soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author PirateBarnabus
    What annoys me more than anything else, is I succumb to buying some scheme or plan and no sooner have I paid up and I'm getting emails and OTO's from all and sundry.
    Upsell, cross sell, Hi friend emails from the Rich Jerk or his brother.
    Not always the guy who I though I was buying from.

    I've made money on fiverr, but it was not that easy. However, it's easier to charge more now but fiverr take 25% and even charge you for withdrawing your money!
    They are the guys making easy money. 😯
    Making money online, work from home is a dream to pursue but it's fickle.

    At the moment, I'm picking up the phone and selling contracts for a small business in a niche market.
    It's hard but it's building slowly and hopefully I'll build a residual income worth the effort.

    The good news? Well for me at least, I'm doing what I do from my sailing boat in the Caribbean. So I don't expect a vast amount of sympathy. 😐.
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  • Profile picture of the author wesupportthem
    if you stepped the easy way to make money, make sure you will have 80% of your time wasted watching video about people made bucks after the long way, and you will keep suffering suffering.
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  • Profile picture of the author J50
    There's been two times when I've made a decent amount of easy money. A lucky PPC campaign that took no more than 1 hour to set up and made thousands for around a year completely hands off, and buying quite a few bitcoins while they were still cheap only taking me an hour again to verify who I was with a broker, and again making thousands in paper gains.
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  • Profile picture of the author animal44
    Originally Posted by SummerDaze View Post

    Thanks for your comment, out of interest how long did it take you to get in the position of being able to earn residual income.

    I get the concept, I understand people are able to live on this however the point of my thread is that I believe it probably was a hard slog for you to get in the position you are in today without a bucket load of work.

    Am I wrong?
    Yes you are wrong. I don't know what Tsnyder does, but I do know what I do is easy to learn and can earn you a lot of money without the blood sweat and tears...
    Originally Posted by SummerDaze View Post

    tell us more about how they REALLY did it...
    Why should they?

    What's in it for them?

    $7 for a WSO?

    What we have here is more a thinking problem. You tell me why should I, or anyone else, help you make "easy money"...
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
    Who do people "keep going on about it" - I assume you mean selling it?

    Simple - because there always will be enough people who are stupid and naive enough to buy it, and psychology works.

    There are actually ways to earn money from the bling that fails the majority... I've written about them here
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  • Profile picture of the author zdebx
    It's the same as saying why so many people play the lottery, when there's only a 0.00000000000001% chance you will win the jackpot?

    The answer? It's easy.

    People want it easy, they want to lay in bed all day, while the money rolls in or buy a piece of paper with some numbers on it, then expect to win millions from it.

    Or buy an IM product that promises it's all they'll ever need and hope for the best.
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    • Profile picture of the author SummerDaze
      Originally Posted by zdebx View Post

      It's the same as saying why so many people play the lottery, when there's only a 0.00000000000001% chance you will win the jackpot?

      The answer? It's easy.

      People want it easy, they want to lay in bed all day, while the money rolls in or buy a piece of paper with some numbers on it, then expect to win millions from it.

      Or buy an IM product that promises it's all they'll ever need and hope for the best.
      I realise it's a thrilling prospect to get something amazing for doing little to nothing at all, I just think it is a bit of a fantasy that swarms of people will be able to cash in so to speak on this opportunity as well when there is only ever really a chance a handful of people will reap the rewards.

      It's just a gripe of mine and I guess I just need to get over it.
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  • Profile picture of the author phenomix
    What most people don't tell you is that they had to work a lot of hours over the course of time with many failures along the way before they built something up to a point where the money becomes easy.

    Either that or they got lucky.
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  • Profile picture of the author animal44
    Here's an "easy" way to make a million dollars in 6 months with no capital, business or inventory:


    Another: Approach local restaurants and find out
    1. When is their quiet day(s)
    2. What customers do they cater for.
    Then ask if you can provide customers on their quiet day(s), will they pay you 20%, 25%, 30% of the bill every time those customers come back on those quiet days?
    If they say no, then move on.
    If they say yes, and in my experience maybe half will say yes,then work with the owner to put together a special offer, free desert, special fixed price for three courses, Free TV with every meal , whatever package deal your imagination can come up with. You can also test out variations.
    Then send a letter to clubs, and organisations that meet regularly and make the offer "meet here and get this special offer only on these days".
    I'm not sure what the PC name for old people's homes is, but old people's homes sometimes take the residents out on a regular basis. Resident owned apartments often meet quarterly. Social clubs of various sorts, Hobby clubs meet monthly. Again, just use your imagination...

    How hard is either of those two examples...?
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Spooner
    Let me use an analogy here: making money online is a lot like an airplane taking off and flying.

    First, you need the plane (business idea). But not just any plane. You need one that is air worthy and that can actually fly (tested business idea).

    You'll need some fuel (capital, savings, long hours of work).

    If you are smart, you'll use a ground crew (investors, mentors, coaches, etc.).

    You'll need a flight plan (business goals, plans, etc.).

    A usable runway would be nice (a place to launch or run your business).

    Having a qualified pilot also helps (knowledge and experience in your business model and/or market).

    If you have all of the above, then you'll need one more piece - one that most people, in my experience, either aren't ready for, or just don't want to face. You'll need to be aware of the resistance necessary to get the plane aloft.

    As the plane starts to roll down the runway, the air resistance increases steadily. This is like the resistance we all face when launching a business. Whether it comes from our own doubts, lack of adequate capital, lack of support from those around us, or where ever, it is still there, and we have to deal with it if we are going to get anywhere.

    But, here's the good part: if you have all of the above pieces in place, and if you can stick with it through all of the resistance (internal and external), you have a great chance of getting your business "off the ground.

    Just remember, like in flying, the greatest resistance happens just before take-off.

    So, "easy money" with an instant business? Maybe. But I wouldn't want to fly in it for any length of time.

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  • Profile picture of the author MarkDely
    Good post generating some decent responses, hard work and getting to the top are all dependent on your own circumstances. Your idea of hard work and 'the top' are almost certainly different from that of the next person.

    I do agree that there are a lot of systems and gurus out there that can be very misleading and a lot of these should be avoided at all costs.

    But if you can do something that you love doing for X amount of hours/pay a week then you will actually never have to 'work' another day in your life.
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  • Profile picture of the author RefuseToLose
    I agree, there is no such thing as easy money, but there are some things you can do to make it as easy as it can get...
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    if you have a sizable and responsive niche targeted email list

    then you have push button easy money making abilities...

    THIS IS UNDENIABLE


    however,, getting that list is another story..

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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    well my first $1 online was hard, took like 2 years.

    But my next $50k was easier. I never had and easy day online. It takes hard work, list building building connections on fb, and giving value.

    If you do that, you can do well, but I aint never heard a millionaire say its easy. You did not see the years of heartache and tears it took for them to get there.
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    • Profile picture of the author SummerDaze
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      well my first $1 online was hard, took like 2 years.

      But my next $50k was easier. I never had and easy day online. It takes hard work, list building building connections on fb, and giving value.

      If you do that, you can do well, but I aint never heard a millionaire say its easy. You did not see the years of heartache and tears it took for them to get there.
      Exactly - it's the blood, sweat and tears that makes it worth all the hard work.

      Anything I have ever got the easy way just wasn't as sweet.
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        Originally Posted by SummerDaze View Post

        Exactly - it's the blood, sweat and tears that makes it worth all the hard work.

        Anything I have ever got the easy way just wasn't as sweet.
        actually you are RIGHT!, quite philosophical there.

        I do remember when the market was crashing, in 2008, and i lost money, and there were tears, emotional pain, and all that.

        The funny thing is people who are very successful.....i mean millionaires all have their horrible and bad stories. ALmost all of them.

        So maybe we are on earth to learn nothing in the world is free, we must make sacrifices, and learn and keep growing....so i love the way you put it. years of BLOOD SWEAT and TEARS, is what multimillion dollar business are built with. Yet most people are not willing to do that, LATE NIGHT, EARLY MORNINGS, and making sacrifies, eating noodles to pay for high quality traffic. Yet, this is what I did, and now great to enjoy the fruits.

        Its always important to remember where we come from and help those that need help. That is why the warrior forum is so good. I learn from the big guys in here, how to build massive income pockets, with a little bit of elbow grease.

        But I feel, when you are in the beginning coming to places like this with some very good marketers, who know what they are doing, and who have big lists, and know that email marketing is very good. Can help you while you are learning the ropes and fast track your success.

        Great thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author Splatterfox
    The thing is that many people are actually ready to work - but being ready to spend 8 hours per day into a business doesn't mean you will become successful. Many people are still in an employee mindset: "show me what to do and I will dedicate 8 hours per day to become rich with it someday". The main criteria is creativity and a strategy behind it - no pure execution. Anyone can execute.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Splatterfox View Post

      The thing is that many people are actually ready to work - but being ready to spend 8 hours per day into a business doesn't mean you will become successful. Many people are still in an employee mindset: "show me what to do and I will dedicate 8 hours per day to become rich with it someday". The main criteria is creativity and a strategy behind it - no pure execution. Anyone can execute.
      wow, that really resonated with me. Because I did struggle at the start too.

      you sit in your chair and think you will become this millionaire, when you have to learn what you do with your 8-9 hour day.

      What will you do, get on FB, or build a blog, or do a post, or shoot a video, or tweet your nuts off, an hope all your followers buy stuff. LOL.

      No.......

      For me it was about studying the big guys, they do not do this. The stuff I mentioned above they do for FUN.

      What they do, and I am talking about a guy who does $400,000 USD per month...yes....per month. He spends most of his day, LIST BUILDING and SEGREGATING his lists.

      when you get good at this, you do not need a email list of 1million people. You just have smaller pockets of clients, that want what you are after or promoting.

      The main overall goal, is I tried everything, but when I learn how this guy was making $400k each month, and mimicked that in my business...oh lawwd!! how did things change. Its a amazing!!!

      There are far too many people listening to guys shooting one video a day, or good at writing a blog post. But the chances are these guys are probably making $1k to $2k per month.

      If you study the big guys, with HUGE accounts, and brining in huge money each day, there is a 99% chance they are building email lists, LEADS and CONVERSIONS are all they are after, and shoot videos on youtube and do FB live as a side thing.

      LIST building is one of the simple things you can do to get from $0 a day to $400 a day. I know you hear it alot in here on the WF....but you hear it in here alot because these are the guys in the know, and realize how powerful it is!

      I will leave you with this. If you want a business that gets big results, and fast profits, you must be getting FRESH LEADS each day, and EACH week. Once you realise this, get ready for your life to change. I tried lots of stuff, over 33 money making strategies, and nothing works as well as building your EMAIL LIST, and communicating with those LEADS 2-3 times a week.
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      • Profile picture of the author SummerDaze
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        What they do, and I am talking about a guy who does $400,000 USD per month...yes....per month. He spends most of his day, LIST BUILDING and SEGREGATING his lists.

        If you study the big guys, with HUGE accounts, and brining in huge money each day, there is a 99% chance they are building email lists, LEADS and CONVERSIONS are all they are after, and shoot videos on youtube and do FB live as a side thing.

        LIST building is one of the simple things you can do to get from $0 a day to $400 a day. I know you hear it alot in here on the WF....but you hear it in here alot because these are the guys in the know, and realize how powerful it is!

        I will leave you with this. If you want a business that gets big results, and fast profits, you must be getting FRESH LEADS each day, and EACH week. Once you realise this, get ready for your life to change. I tried lots of stuff, over 33 money making strategies, and nothing works as well as building your EMAIL LIST, and communicating with those LEADS 2-3 times a week.
        Hi Celente,

        Sounds like you are really kicking goals now in your business.

        Would you mind sharing who your big guys that you study are? I am interested.

        Im interested to hear more about what you are doing, it seems like it is really working for you.

        It sounds like the people you are learning from are really focusing on key areas and not cutting corners and its the simple things that usually make a huge difference.

        I am a huge fan of Neil Patel and I find his style and approach really, really simple and easy to understand. I get he is a guru in the industry so it is pretty obvious that he has nailed his strategies and kept them very simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author kilgore
    Of course there's easy money.

    A couple months ago, while walking around town I happened to find a $20 bill just lying on the ground. I bent over, picked it up and 10 seconds later I was $20 richer. If you do the math, you'll see that I made $7,200 an hour for those 10 seconds. Based on a 40-hour work week that would translate to $288,000 per week. Not bad, right?

    So don't tell me there's no easy money. During those ten seconds, I took MASSIVE ACTION (by bending over) and I CRUSHED IT (by grabbing the $20)! Now I'm ready to release my new WSO called "The $300,000 Week Formula: How to Bend Over, Pick Up Money and Put It in Your Wallet". I'm sure it'll be a big seller!

    P.S. If I can bend over and pick up a $20 bill, ANYONE can do it!
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    • Profile picture of the author RefuseToLose
      Originally Posted by kilgore View Post

      Of course there's easy money.

      A couple months ago, while walking around town I happened to find a $20 bill just lying on the ground. I bent over, picked it up and 10 seconds later I was $20 richer. If you do the math, you'll see that I made $7,200 an hour for those 10 seconds. Based on a 40-hour work week that would translate to $288,000 per week. Not bad, right?

      So don't tell me there's no easy money. During those ten seconds, I took MASSIVE ACTION (by bending over) and I CRUSHED IT (by grabbing the $20)! Now I'm ready to release my new WSO called "The $300,000 Week Formula: How to Bend Over, Pick Up Money and Put It in Your Wallet". I'm sure it'll be a big seller!

      P.S. If I can bend over and pick up a $20 bill, ANYONE can do it!

      Can I get a review copy?
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  • Profile picture of the author james flynn
    Originally Posted by SummerDaze View Post

    Why does everyone keep banging on about easy money - there is no such thing.

    I am all for the idea of making an easy buck one way or another but the truth is, it doesnt come easy. Even those of you out there making the big bucks now would have had to start somewhere.. it didnt just start out of a big puff of smoke.

    There seems to be a few people out there touting that you can make piles of money without basically working more than a few hours a week.

    Granted I understand if youre an investor and you have worked your tail off for years and years and youre sitting on some solid investments that provide good returns thats one thing and I know in some cases this is a similar set up in IM, the crux of the matter is, there would have had to have been some bloody hard work behind the scenes to get there.

    While its hard to not get distracted by the gurus, Id prefer to hear the realistic side of the business and not the lofty millionaire stories of the super rich telling me that my bank account is about to go gangbusters if I start selling one simple product.

    Lets be honest, the path to success is time-consuming and like every other job you have to start from the bottom and make your way up.. this process can take years and it aint all going to be easy.

    My take on this (and I am only early into running my own business) would be to aim to do the following:
    • Maintain a slow pattern of growth and refine your service as you grow so you can recognise and react to opportunities
    • Invest in support whether it be casual or part time etc as you need it - human capital will be needed at some point- not everything can be automated
    • Make sure your cash flow is working for your business
    • Have a plan for your business - dont just fly by the seat of your pants

    The idea of responsible speed of growth is something I really like the sound of - but thats a discussion for another time.

    Whats your take - are you REALLY making easy money.. or is it all a bit of a show..
    As they say ' choose a job you love,and you will never have to work a day in your life'. The question is that how much you're willing to exhaust yourself to squeeze money out of your startup? If you have a passion and love for what you're doing you won't care about the money because it's a by-product of your hard work. If you're a freelancer, you don't start hitting home runs right after signing up on the site. It requires perseverance and a lot of grunt work to earn that reputation in the community so that people end up trusting you with high paying projects. MONEY one way or another always grinds your bones before it become yours. It only becomes easy if you love what you're doing.Period.
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  • Profile picture of the author MPPTrainer
    The concept of easy money is the lack of work, or sweat equity needed to actually produce an income. Coming from a Blue Collar home, I work 12 to 14 hour days some days, wake up at 5, go to bed at midnight and do it all again. I'm doing 35K this month currently (any clients I get will make that number bigger) and I've left my house for work related things twice.

    I went and played WOW with friends and did three business call while we raided the mines. I caught a movie with my mother, then immediately called two people while we walked across the street to the restaurant, and I talked with them for 20 minutes combined and got two more clients.

    Now, I've done tons of work, made videos, edited pages, wrote copy, and talked with lots of people about their business and my service. I created tons of information. Worked with two coaches and a mastermind and studied 3 programs that I bought last month.

    My father on his best month of work 10 to 11 hour days of manual labor, with heavy machines, coming home sweated through his clothes, was about 6K. He just made all the piping that runs about everything in the world, and there were only two people in the factory that he worked that could do his job.

    No I don't consider what I do easy money. I bring a ton of value to businesses, help them grow, and they make far more than what they pay me. But I get to do it from anywhere that there's wifi. My fiancee wanted to go and hang out in a hotel at a Casino cause our apartment was feeling boring to her, so we went and I booked 2 clients through phone calls. I generated 22 leads for a real estate office. I generated a 6K sale for a elder service company. I made 3,200 dollars more a month while we were there (she spent that money and not on gambling, we're the proud owners of a new massage chair... but that's another story).

    My life is incredibly easier than it was for my dad and the money I make comes to me easier and with less hassle. I work with who I want to work with (and that wasn't always the case, I put up with some shit my first month so I could pay my bills). But, now, it's like, oh, no we don't match at all, sorry to take up your time, not worth the hassle.
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