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I have 30K in high-quality traffic and I make 0,00 bucks

by travelguyharris
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It is as the headline says. I created a successful online magazine and I am not making a cent off it.

One thing has to do with the fact that I dont like affiliate marketing. I would do it, if I found a high-quality product to advertise.

For example, I have one article about dating that gets about 400 uniques per day from Google. Now, the only remotely good program I found is from the cupid sites on CJ, they pay 75% in commission - and their banners etc. look total crap.

What can I do?

Anyone who recommends amazon's 1% commision program I will block. Thanks people.
#30k #bucks #highquality #make #traffic
  • Profile picture of the author Coby
    If you aren't comfortable promoting products as an affiliate then I think the only other option is to sell the advertising space to other marketers...

    Of course - you can always create your own product - or have one created for you.

    Are you building a list as well? If so you can sell solo ads to others in the Dating Niche.

    Good luck.

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  • Profile picture of the author Gambino
    This is nearly impossible to even guess without seeing the site itself. But, in general, it all depends on what your customers are looking for. Magazine type sites generally do not have much "buyer traffic" (people actively looking to make a purchase). To make money, you have to have a product that offers your customers what they're looking for. This is tough on magazine style sites as well.

    What are you visitors looking for? I'd focus on capturing their info (if you're not) and building specific funnels based on each topic of your site.

    I get the feeling that this site covers a variety of topics, not just dating. But, on the dating page, you could do a couple easy things...

    You could always design your own banner and link it back to the site with your affiliate link. Or, you could advertise dating app installs (assuming you get mobile traffic) which should generate some easy commissions.

    There are a lot of options depending on the site and how much time and effort you want to put into it.
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  • Profile picture of the author travelguyharris
    thanks dudes.

    I have created a good looking banner that is now showed right before content. The click rate is really bad!

    I get 4x as much clicks when I put a google adsense banner there.

    My banner is a (good-looking) static jog file - are they filtered away by addblockers?

    Where do you put banners?
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    • Profile picture of the author PinkStar
      Originally Posted by travelguyharris View Post

      I created a successful online magazine and I am not making a cent off it.
      Originally Posted by travelguyharris View Post

      I get 4x as much clicks when I put a google adsense banner there.
      He had a strange attitude and equally conflicting information.
      I guess trial and error wasn't his thing. It appears that Harris have abandoned this thread but I'll reply anyway just incase he's peeking in: Adsense worked better than the banner, then add adsense back. Try something else and leave what ever makes more money in place until you find something else to try.
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  • Profile picture of the author hardworker2013
    There are plenty of Networks on the internet that you can make money from like Clickbank.
    It is surprising that you are getting so much traffic and zero sales, it is obviously you have it all wrong. Why not add adsense on your Blog if you have a Gmail a/c? Also as mentioned before you should be collecting emails by a pop up etc so you can market to these subscribers over and over again....
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  • Profile picture of the author zdebx
    Have you tried Adsense or possibly other contextual advertising platforms? You don't necessarily have to promote affiliate products to make money from your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author jan roos
    Try Adsense and link to an aff program from withing the article. Text link.
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    • Profile picture of the author Luke Dennison
      Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

      Try Adsense and link to an aff program from withing the article. Text link.
      contextual links are the best way forward so take this guys advise.
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  • Profile picture of the author domainchap
    this is ironic,
    i promoted in several verticals,
    nothing converted like the dating niche

    for some campaigns it was like one sale per 20 visitors

    if i had access to this emails list, i would make a few thousands next week, just by promoting affiliates

    your problem is not about not liking affiliate program,
    your problem is a common problem to a lot of people,
    it is that you think that the word SALE , is a dirty word,
    get over it, or get some coaching to change yourself for the better

    i never had anybody complain when i promoted only good dating products,
    select products that will help your newsletter reader

    and don't overthink or consult with anybody who has never sold a thing in their life

    all the best, your call
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  • Profile picture of the author travelguyharris
    I hate contextual links and changing the writing with some sleazy "I tired it, you should too" sales copy. **** that shit.

    I will plaster one page test-wise with some professionally created leaderboards and regular banners now. See how it goes.
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  • Profile picture of the author WarriorWasim
    If the cj offer seems good to you then just create a new good banner or outsource a good banner and use that. If you can generate affiliate commissions out of your magazine then you should not hate it. Thanks :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    As Jan says. At least get some cash flow coming in
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  • Profile picture of the author gooroo
    Allow premium guest/sponsored posts on your site? You have a lot of traffic coming in, I'm sure many people would like to get a chance to promote their content on your site, and you would be able to make the rules as for the post quality requirements etc.

    Don't know how much other would be willing to pay for it but if you've got a good niche then starting from 100$ for a single post could allow you to make a good income if you'd manage to publish few of those posts per month. Considering it's a magazine and probably content-heavy you shouldn't have a difficulty not making your site too commercial and keeping its integrity.
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    • Profile picture of the author travelguyharris
      Originally Posted by gooroo View Post

      Allow premium guest/sponsored posts on your site? You have a lot of traffic coming in, I'm sure many people would like to get a chance to promote their content on your site, and you would be able to make the rules as for the post quality requirements etc.

      Don't know how much other would be willing to pay for it but if you've got a good niche then starting from 100$ for a single post could allow you to make a good income if you'd manage to publish few of those posts per month. Considering it's a magazine and probably content-heavy you shouldn't have a difficulty not making your site too commercial and keeping its integrity.
      Sorry, but this is just the problem. I get requests from sleazeballs all the time who want to publish their "professionally written" content on my site in exchange for 150$ all the time. And then it's some thin, generic 500 word nonsense about renting overpriced apartments in london. Naturally, this spinned trash is full of links keyword rich anchor text ("you do do-follow links, yes?") - as if it was 1999 and panda updates didnt exist.
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      • Profile picture of the author Woomeister
        Originally Posted by travelguyharris View Post

        Sorry, but this is just the problem. I get requests from sleazeballs all the time who want to publish their "professionally written" content on my site in exchange for 150$ all the time. And then it's some thin, generic 500 word nonsense about renting overpriced apartments in london. Naturally, this spinned trash is full of links keyword rich anchor text ("you do do-follow links, yes?") - as if it was 1999 and panda updates didnt exist.
        I agree with you completely. I hate affiliate links and banners and anything which thinks it's clever enough to sell me something i wasn't there for.

        But, that's just me (and you) I am a control freak and I know exactly what i want and when i want it, no banner ad in the world could make me click on it, if sites have them I bounce instantly.

        Many marketers don't even realise the amount of hostility there is towards pop ups, no matter how well placed, designed and targeted they are.
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  • Profile picture of the author shaunybb
    Originally Posted by travelguyharris View Post


    Anyone who recommends amazon's 1% commision program I will block. Thanks people.

    This is better than your 0% commission right now...


    ...adjust your mindset!
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  • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
    Yeah direct the traffic to some type of optin/squeeze page. Collect those leads. Build that relationship with them. Sell to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author ht125
    try buysellads , there are plenty of advertisers there but it may be hard to be accepted depending on your magazine niche
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  • Profile picture of the author jan roos
    Your mindset sucks. There are plenty of really good offers in the dating space that your audience will thank you for showing to them.

    Spend some time to find them and promote. You are in business to make money so go do it.

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  • Profile picture of the author travelguyharris
    hmm. yeah.

    I started a new thread offering ad space. How long does it take for it to go live here? It it is somewhat greyed out. Is that new?
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  • Profile picture of the author starlox
    My advice would be to create your own banners and use the url of the link, if you can't create your own banners hire someone for cheap
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  • Profile picture of the author Splatterfox
    I completely understand what you mean. Its barely understandable that someone still pays for this bullshit "how to f*** any girl with 100% guarantee", with ugly pictures and obviously faked testimonials. Sometimes when I browse Clickbank I really feel like I'm back in 1997 where people would still believe this stuff.

    But the point is, you need to offer something to make money. AdSense would be an option. Not the best one (because a detailed and targeted affiliate product usually makes more), but Google also knows stuff about your visitors. So it will definetly help. Since online magazines usually are quite general, its hard to find specific niche products to sell. I would also do something like a funnel or maybe a premium membership where they don't see any ads and have special rights or something. At the same time, you can still email them with stuff of course once they entered your list
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeNielsen
    Adsense is the obvious solution to your problem. I'm sure you'll see a decent paycheck with that much traffic if adsense is turned on on all pages.

    Also, if you have any posts related to an affiliate program, use a simple redirect link from within your article to your affiliate offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author angelohall77
    My advise to you would be to look at the banner ads of successful dating sites banners and copy it ... its not cheating buddy ... Stop trying so hard . Its simple Copy what works if your getting good traffic but your banners are not converting go look at a site that has a ton of traffic a high rank site usually there banners are doing great and copy the style
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  • Profile picture of the author Tomas Lodén
    Be a copycat.. go out and do some research... take notes and copy other succesful sites.. look at the ads, how they promote etc etc... dont try to reinvent the wheel..
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  • Profile picture of the author TenaciousGrease
    Have you considered Amazon's affiliate program?
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    adsense is the answer..

    you will be paid handsomely since you're getting traffic in expensive advertising niches..

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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by aizaku View Post

      adsense is the answer..

      you will be paid handsomely since you're getting traffic in expensive advertising niches..

      -Ike Paz


      No.

      OP has 400 unique traffic per day which would be nothing in Adsense profits.

      OP is targeting the dating niche which has their own affiliate network/s. I have no idea why anyone want to be cut down by a middle man (Google) when they could simply get the full cut of the affiliate commission.

      Also, odds are Adsense will serve up irrelevant local ads (horrible conversions).
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        400/day x .10, that's 40 clicks a day. If they avg payment is $1.75, that's $70/day, which, in some parts of the world ain't that bad.

        If, on the other hand, it's $0.14/clicks, then that's $5.6/day, which, in some parts of the world is a day's income while in other parts of the world it's a quick way to bankruptcy court.

        So, it depends on keywords (niche) and where the OP lives and conversion rates... When I was doing adsense, my conversions were in the 13-14%, average click (mortgage world) got me $1.74. What I did not have was the enough uniques a day... (Yes, I did some learning on acquiring uniques since then, so don't judge me!)

        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        No.

        OP has 400 unique traffic per day which would be nothing in Adsense profits.

        OP is targeting the dating niche which has their own affiliate network/s. I have no idea why anyone want to be cut down by a middle man (Google) when they could simply get the full cut of the affiliate commission.

        Also, odds are Adsense will serve up irrelevant local ads (horrible conversions).
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  • Profile picture of the author superowid
    if you want to keep your magazine-site clean and clear to maintain your reputation, then you should create some sub-magazine-sites to monetize. create banners for those sub-sites and put them on your main mag-sites like they are not yours. then you can play with those sub-sites without worry. just be creative! good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author vMartin
    As mentioned before Adsense would be a good option.

    Most magazine websites these days work with Tobaala, Outbrain and plenty of other good native ad networks.

    Have you looked into those?
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    • Profile picture of the author sfh2167
      Originally Posted by vMartin View Post

      As mentioned before Adsense would be a good option.

      Most magazine websites these days work with Tobaala, Outbrain and plenty of other good native ad networks.

      Have you looked into those?
      If the site owner is concerned about quality I don't think these companies will be a good fit.
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    We must have a different definition of quality traffic. To me, quality traffic is buyer traffic. Non-buyer traffic is not quality.

    So, what do you call quality traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author purush167
    its a worth of few hundered dollars if its really from search engine. thast the quality traffic of course socical media too.
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  • Profile picture of the author im2016
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    Whatever you decide to do never use banners, always use text links. People click on text links far more than they do on banner ads. For dating CPA offers that pay $3 or $4 per lead would generate revenue with 400 visitors a day.
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  • Profile picture of the author yourstores
    You are obviously doing something right if you are generating this traffic from what you are writing - so we know you're good at this. I would try and find a way to monetize site without getting involved, so advertising or affiliate programs are your only options, unless you fancy learning. The other alternative is to sell the site. Natural traffic is worth a lot of money to someone who specializes in earning/flipping websites regardless of current income, so that might be a way to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author MValmont
    I don't know why people are stressed about the idea of selling something to your readers...

    Hell, someone in this thread even said f you want to keep your reputation...blabla

    Look, People are coming to your website for A REASON. They have a NEED.

    I don't know what it is because I don't know your website, but if you sell them something related to their need, they will THANK YOU for selling them that product.

    Why would they lose their trust? Actually if the product is good, they might TRUST YOU MORE because you changed their life.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by travelguyharris View Post

    It is as the headline says. I created a successful online magazine and I am not making a cent off it.

    One thing has to do with the fact that I dont like affiliate marketing. I would do it, if I found a high-quality product to advertise.

    For example, I have one article about dating that gets about 400 uniques per day from Google. Now, the only remotely good program I found is from the cupid sites on CJ, they pay 75% in commission - and their banners etc. look total crap.

    What can I do?

    Anyone who recommends amazon's 1% commision program I will block. Thanks people.
    What have you tried in regards to making money?
    I understand you haven't made any money yet - but what have you tried? How have you been trying to monetize your traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author Internationalwealth
    Start creating your own value.

    That way you are sure that it's of good quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author carltonfite22091991
    if you fail to earn money through your blog via affiliate marketing then no need to be worry about it, their are plenty of monetization methods beside affiliate earning. Besides affiliate earning is the greatest source of earning you can try banner ads and any ad network that pay high CTR for your content, some of them which i used myself are (adsense , adnow, outbrain , payclick )
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    Originally Posted by travelguyharris View Post


    Anyone who recommends amazon's 1% commision program I will block. Thanks people.
    For your information, Amazon does not have a 1%Affiliate program, it starts at 4% and goes to 8 and there are many people here making much more than you are. I would really think about your traffic. If you can't convert it then maybe it is not as "quality" as you think it is.

    so, I reccomend amazon.....Block away

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  • Profile picture of the author Cpamatica
    If your banner is good-looking it doesn't mean it will work. Usually, complete awful banners bring leads like crazy. Need to test everything.

    As I understand, you don't like affiliate marketing because products are not
    good?

    What if you could have a high-converting dating banner ready to be put o your website? Like not cheap dating sites but nice legal companies.

    Anyway, I agree that without knowing the audience of the website it's hard to identify what banner could work well. But if you need a help, we can contact later on this issue. Also, we can show banners that work for diverse audiences and etc.

    Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author Cesar Sampaio
    "Anyone who recommends amazon's 1% commision program I will block. Thanks people."
    The problem is not your site, it's you. With an attitude like that it will be in the red forever.

    Spend as much time as needed to know by heart why people go to your site and what do they want there. Then sell them that exact thing they are ready to buy already.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    1- Add a popup to your site so you can start building an email list
    2- Build a relationship with your list
    3- Mail your list offers they have an interest in

    It's a simple formula that works for thousands of affiliate marketers. Don't complicate this.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisChandra
    I had similar issues with my site that gets 50,000 monthly visitors. I've tried several Affiliate products from clickbank and had almost no success. After adding Adsense and bing/yahoo ads I make about $300 - $350 per month.
    I'd recommend some of the tips already mentioned like building a list. Once you find a product that hits home for the readers that list will come in handy
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  • Profile picture of the author Courage
    Originally Posted by travelguyharris View Post

    Anyone who recommends amazon's 1% commision program I will block. Thanks people.
    If that's your attitude I feel sorry for you.

    If I got that type of traffic I'd be a millionaire in no time flat.

    You should get used to the idea that internet marketing
    is kinda shady. In fact marketing is kinda shady.

    There are very few things we need other than air,
    water and food, and most other things are sold
    through marketing.

    You should start by telling us what niche you are in.

    If the banners are "Crap" you should make your own.

    Also if you're not prepared to sell affiliate products or
    products off of Amazon, then the only thing you can
    sell is advertising space. And there are no guarantees
    you'll make money with that.

    (BTW, if you do things like AdSense you'll have to open
    your mind to doing things like placing huge ad blocks right
    up in people's faces...and it sounds like that might lessen
    the high quality of your magazine.)

    What you should do is capture those visitors emails
    and start a list, but then you'll have to email them and
    I don't know if you'd be willing to do that.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by travelguyharris View Post

    I hate contextual links and changing the writing with some sleazy "I tired it, you should too" sales copy. **** that shit.
    Harris, there's a gap in your education showing...

    Contextual links don't have to be a manipulative come on like you describe.

    Since you mentioned a dating article, let's take a fictional product that helps people build their profiles for dating sites.

    You could do something like this:

    If you're nervous about setting up your profile, there are software products available to help you fill out and format your profile (click here for an example).
    No hype, just information. Of course, the link would be your affiliate link.

    With a little creativity, contextual linking can actually improve the user experience instead of dragging it down with the kind of hype you mentioned.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve L
    Originally Posted by travelguyharris View Post

    It is as the headline says. I created a successful online magazine and I am not making a cent off it.

    One thing has to do with the fact that I dont like affiliate marketing. I would do it, if I found a high-quality product to advertise.

    For example, I have one article about dating that gets about 400 uniques per day from Google. Now, the only remotely good program I found is from the cupid sites on CJ, they pay 75% in commission - and their banners etc. look total crap.

    What can I do?

    Anyone who recommends amazon's 1% commision program I will block. Thanks people.
    this is a common problem! i too used to struggle with this on a blog i was getting 500 visitors a day with. i sent you a pm!
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  • Profile picture of the author VidasVegas
    What do you mean by "Quality Traffic" ?
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliatePrograms
    Aside from dating, can you say exactly what topics the online magazine tends to cover? Do people leave comments? What kinds of people with what kinds of interests and from which countries mainly seem to visit your site, do you know?
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    If I were you, I would sell advertising space.

    Hope this Helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnnyNight
    I would do one clean pop under..

    Whatever topic your site is about there has to some type offer out there that will catch peoples eyes..

    Banners have to compete with your content... If your content is really good, very few are going to click on a competing banner..

    To do a real pop under these days though you need the most advanced script being produced..

    I have found this guy really is the best out there.. popunderjs dot com - Many of the largest commercial sites use him..

    Think it's $99 a year..

    It really works.. and he is always updating it... He sent out 3 updates just last week..
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Stevens
    If you have a blog with a lot of traffic I believe the most money you could get out of it would be to create your own product in a related niche. That is 100% what I would do. While you're waiting I would collect emails from the traffic or at a minimum throw up an affiliate link. Don't worry about the sales pages looking bad. Bad looking converts really well a lot of the time. Don't pay attention to all of these marketers saying they don't like the ads etc. They are not your customers. Info products still sell and convert like crazy.
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    you can sell some content sponsorship
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  • Profile picture of the author DURABLEOILCOM
    Originally Posted by travelguyharris View Post

    It is as the headline says. I created a successful online magazine and I am not making a cent off it.

    One thing has to do with the fact that I dont like affiliate marketing. I would do it, if I found a high-quality product to advertise.

    For example, I have one article about dating that gets about 400 uniques per day from Google. Now, the only remotely good program I found is from the cupid sites on CJ, they pay 75% in commission - and their banners etc. look total crap.

    What can I do?

    Anyone who recommends amazon's 1% commision program I will block. Thanks people.
    Which methods did you use in order to get 30,000 traffic hits? Are you currently investing to ads, PPC, or SEO?
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  • Profile picture of the author Higginbotham
    Originally Posted by travelguyharris View Post

    It is as the headline says. I created a successful online magazine and I am not making a cent off it.

    One thing has to do with the fact that I dont like affiliate marketing. I would do it, if I found a high-quality product to advertise.

    For example, I have one article about dating that gets about 400 uniques per day from Google. Now, the only remotely good program I found is from the cupid sites on CJ, they pay 75% in commission - and their banners etc. look total crap.

    What can I do?

    Anyone who recommends amazon's 1% commision program I will block. Thanks people.
    If you have a legit list then the problem is most likely not with the list, but how you are utilizing the list. Similar to safelist traffic. Many people think it is useless because they haven't figure out a way to make money from it yet. However, there is a decent amount of people that are making a living from safelist traffic, including myself.

    So my advice is to put your head down and dive right back in, and keep at it until you make it work for you.
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