Id rather be happily broke doing IM than be a robot

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I have a friend that works in a government job. Good money. 9 day fortnights. Free lunches. She starts work at 9:20am and finishes at 4:45pm. Its mundane. Its terribly repetitive and shes only there for the money and the 5 days a fortnight she gets off.

Shes so bright, got two graduate degrees and could have honestly tried her hand at anything.

Shes happy to do it - its a means to an ends she says.

Id rather be broke than be a robot doing something I didnt like.

Ive had plenty of jobs - Ive worked in radio, made stationary (yes, rulers were my forte), Ive worked in PR, marketing, software development, NFP, and even the movie business, but this IM gig is real and I love it.

Next time youre tossing up between throwing in the towel due to the fact that youre not making the sort of money youd hoped or your campaigns just arent working.. ask yourself, would you rather be happily broke or a robot.
#broke #happily #robot
  • Profile picture of the author zdebx
    I'd rather be a robot and have food on the table and roof over my head, than a broke IM'er living on the streets...

    I'm sure you would too, right?

    You don't just quit your job and do IM, because you know a few guys who make millions from their sites....Until you establish your online business to an extent that you can rely on it to make a living, then it's just a part-time thing for most of us, because unless it's very stable and consistent, you can't expect to pay rent/mortgage and feed your family with your Clickbank affiliate review page ranking for "how to build a chicken coop"...
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    This is about the third thread this week that claims "happily broke" is preferable to "A JOB".

    I've been broke - but never "happily". I had bills to pay - people who looked to me for support - I couldn't afford to trip along with IM UNLESS I was making money.

    I say if you want to chose "broke" over a job - definitely up to you. If you are judging what others choose to do to earn a living....it's a waste of time. You don't live her life - you live yours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gambino
    It's incredible how out of touch some perspectives are.

    Go ask some homeless people if they'd like to be a "robot" and earn "good money".
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  • Profile picture of the author gregdavidson727
    Originally Posted by gingerninjas View Post

    I have a friend that works in a government job. Good money. 9 day fortnights. Free lunches. She starts work at 9:20am and finishes at 4:45pm. Its mundane. Its terribly repetitive and shes only there for the money and the 5 days a fortnight she gets off.

    Shes so bright, got two graduate degrees and could have honestly tried her hand at anything.

    Shes happy to do it - its a means to an ends she says.

    Id rather be broke than be a robot doing something I didnt like.

    Ive had plenty of jobs - Ive worked in radio, made stationary (yes, rulers were my forte), Ive worked in PR, marketing, software development, NFP, and even the movie business, but this IM gig is real and I love it.

    Next time youre tossing up between throwing in the towel due to the fact that youre not making the sort of money youd hoped or your campaigns just arent working.. ask yourself, would you rather be happily broke or a robot.
    My sister works "dead-end" jobs and saves most of her money (she got that idea from me). At the age of 32 she now has enough money in savings to literally retire. If you know how to control your spending habits you can easily do the same thing.
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  • I figure roboticism as posited here is a theoretical confine, applicable to mebbe more potential boundaries beyondya job — pre-programmed repetitiona the deemed necessaries, whatever they are.

    An' that is why I gotta reject the robot analogy as it metaphors its way inta hooman endeavor.

    As a process — discoverable an' appliable an' repeatable — nothin' IM holds non-robotic court over anythin' 9-5, includin' flippin' burgers.

    Truly robotic automata jus' get on with shit, perpetually efficient stasis.

    Hooman automata prolly wanna expand on out sum once they figured they hit their potential, an' that is more about sum personal narrative than tryin' to square roboticisma IM against roboticisma 9-5.

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  • Profile picture of the author gingerninjas
    Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying I’d rather be living on the streets - I am just trying to say that there are worse things that not making huge amounts of cash in IM.

    To me it’s better to be living on barely anything than working 50 to 60 hours a week doing something I don’t totally love.

    I’ve been broke too and to be honest because I knew that if I worked hard I’d be able to make a massive change in my life, it didn’t bother me too much to be honest.

    Call my perspectives out of touch, it’s more me trying to say don’t stay in a job you are doing to only make money and punch a time card why not try something, struggle for a while and then try something you’re really passionate about.

    My delivery was poor, put it down to being really late at night and having two wines.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by gingerninjas View Post

    I have a friend that works in a government job. Good money. 9 day fortnights. Free lunches. She starts work at 9:20am and finishes at 4:45pm. Its mundane. Its terribly repetitive and shes only there for the money and the 5 days a fortnight she gets off.

    Shes so bright, got two graduate degrees and could have honestly tried her hand at anything.

    Shes happy to do it - its a means to an ends she says.

    Id rather be broke than be a robot doing something I didnt like.

    Ive had plenty of jobs - Ive worked in radio, made stationary (yes, rulers were my forte), Ive worked in PR, marketing, software development, NFP, and even the movie business, but this IM gig is real and I love it.

    Next time youre tossing up between throwing in the towel due to the fact that youre not making the sort of money youd hoped or your campaigns just arent working.. ask yourself, would you rather be happily broke or a robot.
    Very awesome!

    Unfortunately most people are "trained" at a young age by their family, schools, friends, etc that getting a job is the way to do it. There is nothing wrong with being a little different
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Whatever floats ya boat.

    Some love their 9-5. More power to them.

    Some love IM. More power to them.

    I had mad happiness and expanded my online reach by not getting caught up with folks who make binding but comfortable decisions. We just follow our fun, feel grateful to be running our online business, build those bonds, share mad value and take each moment as a blessing.

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  • Profile picture of the author customerblast
    I like your attitude although I would never personally be happy being broke.... I need money to feed my kids! Just keep going and strive to be abundance and happy doing IM and you will definitely get there my friend.
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    • Profile picture of the author gingerninjas
      Originally Posted by customerblast View Post

      I like your attitude although I would never personally be happy being broke.... I need money to feed my kids! Just keep going and strive to be abundance and happy doing IM and you will definitely get there my friend.
      Thanks - I have a family too - and I'm not saying I'd been keen to live on the street and not feed my family, I mean I would happy struggle a whole lot than be doing something that was mundane. I want to set a good example and love what I do. If it means sacrifices for a while then so be it.

      Life's too short.
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  • Profile picture of the author Junaid khawaja
    Hi Ginger, nice ideas.

    I don't know why the case against "getting a job" is getting stronger and stronger. However, It sounds ridiculous to me. The biggest, cruel boss is not our employers but our monthly bills.

    Yes, bills are our greatest boss.

    And to those who say they are "independent" and don't take directions, actually are taking directions from their clients one way or other. The real independence comes when you beat the real boss "bills" in first 3-4 months of the year and the rest of the earning is all yours to invest and enjoy.

    If you don't beat this "boss", be it working in IM or Robot - there is not much difference.

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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Of course, being your own boss is the best thing that can ever happen to anyone especially when you have tasted working in a corporate environment or demanding job,.

    But in the absence of owning a lucrative IM business of you own, you are better off doing something than nothing at all and have to rely on friends and family to live. That's the worst thing that can ever happen to a man.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    I remember when I got into IM back in 2002 or so. I absolutely loved it. I had a job and 4 kids (with an ex-wife to pay) so leaving my job was not an option. But I did love the extra money.

    Here was my typical day back then:

    Up at 4am. Quick shower and breakfast.
    4:30 - at my computer doing anything from learning something to working on a project.
    6:15 - off to work. Luckily, I actually enjoyed my job so at least I didn't hate going to work.
    4:30 - home from work, right to the computer
    6:00 - dinner and some family time
    7:30 - back on the computer learning and working
    Midnight - bed.

    I did this every day until 2007 (when I went to work for Mike Filsaime). By this point in time I had enough successful launches that when I went to marketing events I even had people wanting to take a picture with me.

    I remember my wife asking me why I work so hard at this. I told her I loved doing it and wanted to do it full time (which she supported 100%). I told her if it ever felt like a job it was time to quit.

    Well, by 2011 I was starting to really not like it (not hate...). Reality set in about product launches - they are NOT a sustainable business model. I knew that, but up until then I never had much of an issue with it. But trying to come up with new ideas, projects, staying ahead of (or at least on par with) the market was getting tougher and tougher.

    It was really feeling like a job.

    I pretty much left the scene. I still have a lot of friends and I still go to events, but I have not created a new product since 2010 and I have no regrets. Now I work on ONE project. It's not launched yet, but I do it at my speed and my time and I actually enjoy it.

    Now, I have my own consulting business in my old profession and it's thriving - and I am happy.

    So if your goal or dream is to do this full time, just understand that there's a lot of work involved, and you either need to build something sustainable, or be prepared to create product after product.

    Good luck to you. I hope you make it
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

      I remember when I got into IM back in 2002 or so. I absolutely loved it. I had a job and 4 kids (with an ex-wife to pay) so leaving my job was not an option. But I did love the extra money.

      Here was my typical day back then:

      Up at 4am. Quick shower and breakfast.
      4:30 - at my computer doing anything from learning something to working on a project.
      6:15 - off to work. Luckily, I actually enjoyed my job so at least I didn't hate going to work.
      4:30 - home from work, right to the computer
      6:00 - dinner and some family time
      7:30 - back on the computer learning and working
      Midnight - bed.

      I did this every day until 2007 (when I went to work for Mike Filsaime). By this point in time I had enough successful launches that when I went to marketing events I even had people wanting to take a picture with me.

      I remember my wife asking me why I work so hard at this. I told her I loved doing it and wanted to do it full time (which she supported 100%). I told her if it ever felt like a job it was time to quit.

      Well, by 2011 I was starting to really not like it (not hate...). Reality set in about product launches - they are NOT a sustainable business model. I knew that, but up until then I never had much of an issue with it. But trying to come up with new ideas, projects, staying ahead of (or at least on par with) the market was getting tougher and tougher.

      It was really feeling like a job.

      I pretty much left the scene. I still have a lot of friends and I still go to events, but I have not created a new product since 2010 and I have no regrets. Now I work on ONE project. It's not launched yet, but I do it at my speed and my time and I actually enjoy it.

      Now, I have my own consulting business in my old profession and it's thriving - and I am happy.

      So if your goal or dream is to do this full time, just understand that there's a lot of work involved, and you either need to build something sustainable, or be prepared to create product after product.

      Good luck to you. I hope you make it
      Good stuff, Mike.

      Thanks for sharing your Journey
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy McLean
    You have to do what you have to do. I say do both.

    When/if the time comes that you're making enough money from IM, then quit. If you love your job and/or money then keep doing both.

    I have made as much in a month as I do at work but I have a mortgage, a family etc. I like the security and cushion.

    But I get the other side too. If I really did hate my job that much I would quit or find something else to do.

    You can always move up in the company and apply for better paying jobs that suit you too. It really depends on the person.

    Some like their jobs, some don't
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  • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
    Originally Posted by gingerninjas View Post

    Id rather be broke than be a robot doing something I didnt like.
    Two things.

    Successful IM is pretty much robotic and it is pretty much the same when profiting from any business.

    Businesses work on systems and the basic formula for success in business is this:

    1. Design the system

    2. Find people to work the system

    The second thing.

    Once you are NOT broke and your expenses or should I say your discretionary spending expands to match your income. . .

    BROKE starts to look pretty BAD

    That is unless you are "Breaking Bad"

    Best regards,

    Ozi
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    I concur what many others say and that is if you truly have to struggle figuring out how to pay next month's rent or struggle to find next week's meal...well you will NOT have a happy life.

    PERIOD !!

    It's almost physically impossible for most of us. The wiring in our brains has to have some semblance at least of a little stability i.e . next month I will have a roof over my head if not Iam in deep pooh pooh


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    • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      I concur what many others say and that is if you truly have to struggle figuring out how to pay next month's rent or struggle to find next week's meal...well you will NOT have a happy life.

      PERIOD !!

      It's almost physically impossible for most of us. The wiring in our brains has to have some semblance at least of a little stability i.e . next month I will have a roof over my head if not Iam in deep pooh pooh


      -Robert Andrew
      I will say this much - internet marketing is what helped me go from an employee mindset to a business owner mindset. If not for IM, I'd still be an employee. Not downing that at all. But after tasting the fruits of being in my own business I hope I never have to work for anyone else ever again.

      But to be clear, if I had to to support my family, I would in a second...
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam JTB
    If you can afford to be happily broke then go for it.

    I understand some people can get caught up in a job they don't like because it provides them with a means to take care of their family.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sage Lewis
    This comes down to knowing yourself.

    Generally speaking, there are two goals to be had out of work:
    • Money
    • Power

    More often than not, a person that is motivated by money would do well to seriously consider a high paying job or, if they have a business, to get investors.

    A person that is power motivated, meaning they like to call the shots, tend to fit into your camp. These people would rather be the king of a shit pile than a slave of a mansion.

    I fall into the Power camp and, therefore, definitely see your point.

    As for homeless... I work with the homeless (I have a non-profit focused on them). All of them are unique just like everyone on planet earth. Some homeless choose to be homeless for this very reason.

    I work with a guy that practices living without any money. He is trying to escape all the confines of society. Spending time with him can feel like a spiritual journey at times.
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    • Profile picture of the author greenowl123
      Originally Posted by Sage Lewis View Post

      This comes down to knowing yourself.

      Generally speaking, there are two goals to be had out of work:
      • Money
      • Power

      More often than not, a person that is motivated by money would do well to seriously consider a high paying job or, if they have a business, to get investors.

      A person that is power motivated, meaning they like to call the shots, tend to fit into your camp. These people would rather be the king of a shit pile than a slave of a mansion.

      I fall into the Power camp and, therefore, definitely see your point.

      As for homeless... I work with the homeless (I have a non-profit focused on them). All of them are unique just like everyone on planet earth. Some homeless choose to be homeless for this very reason.

      I work with a guy that practices living without any money. He is trying to escape all the confines of society. Spending time with him can feel like a spiritual journey at times.
      Good insights here and I agree 100%

      The only thing I would change (in my case) is to use the word "Freedom" instead of the word "Power".

      "Power" implies to my mind having authority over others, e.g. Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, etc. For me, power in this sense of the word, has zero importance. The only "Power" that interests me, is the power to tell an abusive boss-hole to take a long walk off a short pier.

      I am much more interested in "Freedom" which also seems to be the case with the guy you work with who practices living without any money (although in my case that would be highly frowned upon by my better half).
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    • Profile picture of the author gingerninjas
      Originally Posted by Sage Lewis View Post

      I work with a guy that practices living without any money. He is trying to escape all the confines of society. Spending time with him can feel like a spiritual journey at times.
      Hi Sage,

      Thanks for your comment.

      My brother in law, like the guy you work with, is a practising Minimalist.

      His entire possessions in his life fit into a small bag + a guitar, he has two shirts and the bare essentials, if he can't carry it, he doesn't keep it.

      It's a very popular movement - see this bio What Is Minimalism? | The Minimalists

      I'm actually fascinated by it and it's something I am really enjoying learning about.

      While my brother in law hasn't got a lot to speak of and he basically puts any money he owns under his mattress, it gives him a lot of comfort to be apart of something he believes in. He would never stay in a job that didn't agree with his beliefs and would rather have nothing that go against the movement.

      It's all pretty interesting to be honest.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tiger Soul
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    From my boyhood my parent only inspired me to study hard and do nothing else...so that i can get a good result in exam thus a good certificate ...by which i can get a good job with a good salary

    But being a service holder is most likely being a ROBOT....doing the same boring thing everyday and no rest or independence of my own...

    It was never my dream to become a robot...so i decided to do something different and i started doing social networking and freelancing ...designed logos and webs,banners...it gives me pleasure instead of boredom....and also earning good amount of money from it...much better than a job around

    I've started IM very recently besides doing logo design...it gives me much more fun

    everyone should chose what their heart says
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    I'm thinking broke to you does not mean broke, it means not having money for luxuries. Coz if it meant not having money, you would not be happy.

    I'm also thinking you've never even come to being broke, in the real, literal sense of the word. For the same reason.

    I'm thinking if you had nothing to eat for 3 days and the choice was between being a broke IM'er or get a boring job and food, you'd get the boring job and the food.

    Originally Posted by gingerninjas View Post

    I have a friend that works in a government job. Good money. 9 day fortnights. Free lunches. She starts work at 9:20am and finishes at 4:45pm. Its mundane. Its terribly repetitive and shes only there for the money and the 5 days a fortnight she gets off.

    Shes so bright, got two graduate degrees and could have honestly tried her hand at anything.

    Shes happy to do it - its a means to an ends she says.

    Id rather be broke than be a robot doing something I didnt like.

    Ive had plenty of jobs - Ive worked in radio, made stationary (yes, rulers were my forte), Ive worked in PR, marketing, software development, NFP, and even the movie business, but this IM gig is real and I love it.

    Next time youre tossing up between throwing in the towel due to the fact that youre not making the sort of money youd hoped or your campaigns just arent working.. ask yourself, would you rather be happily broke or a robot.
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    • Profile picture of the author gingerninjas
      Originally Posted by DABK View Post

      I'm thinking broke to you does not mean broke, it means not having money for luxuries. Coz if it meant not having money, you would not be happy.

      I'm also thinking you've never even come to being broke, in the real, literal sense of the word. For the same reason.

      I'm thinking if you had nothing to eat for 3 days and the choice was between being a broke IM'er or get a boring job and food, you'd get the boring job and the food.
      You're right - I mean only having the bare essentials, nothing to speak of really - I didn't say not having a roof over my head and going without food.

      I think you understand what I mean and where I am trying to go with my thread.

      It's supposed to be a discussion and hopefully I have clarified this in a few other comments as well.

      The point I am making is why stay in a job that means nothing to you when you could be investing your precious time in something that does. Making sacrifices and doing without is not that hard - believe me I made that decision and it was the best one I've ever made.

      Hopefully that clears up what I mean.
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  • Profile picture of the author Edmontontech
    i don't buy the "happily broke" status. There are a lot of things you are unable to do, let alone fend for yourself and you should be happy for that? I believe happiness comes from self-worth and if you account your job as something of value and in service of others then it's worth it.

    I am not saying I would want to be an IM robot, but I am pretty sure it's more than just being a robot, because you are creating something and affecting people.
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    • Profile picture of the author gingerninjas
      Originally Posted by Edmontontech View Post

      I believe happiness comes from self-worth and if you account your job as something of value and in service of others then it's worth it.

      .
      That's just the point - if you're in a job you don't value and you're only punching a time card then is it really worth it.

      I have obviously moved over to IM and most people on this forum have too so we have all made a decision at some point and it probably wasn't always a lucrative change when people have come from salary positions and corporate jobs but we can all have the satisfaction that we are doing something we love now.

      Each to their own. I would rather have much less money to rub together than do something that didn't inspire me.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPG19
    Working for yourself doesn't necessarily means you have to be small.. There are some huge businesses out there built by Solopreneurs/Freelancers.
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  • Profile picture of the author project v
    It is difficult to be broke during these times when anything and everything has its price. Internet marketing is a business ran by people, they are not exactly robots that function in a very specific way because they do think outside the box, analyze, learn and experiment on their approaches. If it excites you, moves you and gives value to your existence then by all means do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
    Originally Posted by gingerninjas View Post

    I have a friend that works in a government job. Good money. 9 day fortnights. Free lunches. She starts work at 9:20am and finishes at 4:45pm. Its mundane. Its terribly repetitive and shes only there for the money and the 5 days a fortnight she gets off.

    Shes so bright, got two graduate degrees and could have honestly tried her hand at anything.

    Shes happy to do it - its a means to an ends she says.

    Id rather be broke than be a robot doing something I didnt like.

    Ive had plenty of jobs - Ive worked in radio, made stationary (yes, rulers were my forte), Ive worked in PR, marketing, software development, NFP, and even the movie business, but this IM gig is real and I love it.

    Next time youre tossing up between throwing in the towel due to the fact that youre not making the sort of money youd hoped or your campaigns just arent working.. ask yourself, would you rather be happily broke or a robot.

    Thousands upon thousands of people do 'IM' jobs and work the same long hours for corporate businesses.

    'IM' is a very loose term which suggests Internet Advertising - not freelancing.

    I think people term 'robot' jobs simply as working for someone else, but you could do a 9-5 for a company in a perfectly friendly and pleasant atmosphere doing a rewarding job which outweighs benefits of home or personal office.

    It's all subjective.
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  • Profile picture of the author Djwillster123
    I understand if you are living an ok life doing something you like, but if you are broke doing something you like then that is taking something a little bit extreme
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  • Profile picture of the author Djwillster123
    I disagree. I would rather have food then be broke
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    • Profile picture of the author gingerninjas
      Originally Posted by Djwillster123 View Post

      I disagree. I would rather have food then be broke
      Again, I am not saying live without food, I am saying live with less than do something you don't love.

      Obviously we all have to eat, that's not what I am saying.

      My thread was to discuss why it is more important to do something you love doing and get a lot out of rather than wasting your time yawning through a crappy job when you could be doing more with your life.

      Thanks for your input.
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  • Profile picture of the author james flynn
    Originally Posted by gingerninjas View Post

    I have a friend that works in a government job. Good money. 9 day fortnights. Free lunches. She starts work at 9:20am and finishes at 4:45pm. Its mundane. Its terribly repetitive and shes only there for the money and the 5 days a fortnight she gets off.

    Shes so bright, got two graduate degrees and could have honestly tried her hand at anything.

    Shes happy to do it - its a means to an ends she says.

    Id rather be broke than be a robot doing something I didnt like.

    Ive had plenty of jobs - Ive worked in radio, made stationary (yes, rulers were my forte), Ive worked in PR, marketing, software development, NFP, and even the movie business, but this IM gig is real and I love it.

    Next time youre tossing up between throwing in the towel due to the fact that youre not making the sort of money youd hoped or your campaigns just arent working.. ask yourself, would you rather be happily broke or a robot.
    Well I'm in that part of life where questions like these always intrigue me. The thing is that if you are short of capital to launch yourself in a IM business then I would suggest first to grind yourself for some years in a 9-5 job routine. It's better to have your own capital instead of borrowing it from someone. In case if the business fails then you are not in an awkward position to give back that money to someone.
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    • Profile picture of the author gingerninjas
      Originally Posted by james flynn View Post

      Well I'm in that part of life where questions like these always intrigue me. The thing is that if you are short of capital to launch yourself in a IM business then I would suggest first to grind yourself for some years in a 9-5 job routine. It's better to have your own capital instead of borrowing it from someone. In case if the business fails then you are not in an awkward position to give back that money to someone.
      Hi James, I did exactly this when I was starting out for 2 years - it did my head in but I did it until I basically couldn't hack it any more. There is a bit to why I left but it had to do with with a bit of workplace negativity I decided to leave without any savings at all.

      So I have been in this position and I decided to forgo the savings to just jump in and do what I love. Would I do it again, maybe. Do I wish I have more savings, of course. Was it a challenge some days, absolutely. But it was worth it.

      If it is possible to handle doing both all the power to you. I wasn't that lucky.
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  • Profile picture of the author RefuseToLose
    It's a double edge sword.

    Nobody likes to be broke, but some of the biggest changes I've made in my life came when I was dead broke and hit rock bottom... Without those experiences, I wouldn't be the person I am today and have the success I have today.

    Some people get too comfortable with their 9-5 jobs that they never experience any risk in life and they stay in a cocoon of contentment. And at the end of their long uneventful lives most of them look back at it all with regret...

    Like they say... "A Life Without Risk Is No Life At All"

    That doesn't mean make stupid decisions, but don't be afraid to try something bold. And don't be afraid to fail.
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    • Profile picture of the author gingerninjas
      Originally Posted by RefuseToLose View Post

      It's a double edge sword.

      Nobody likes to be broke, but some of the biggest changes I've made in my life came when I was dead broke and hit rock bottom... Without those experiences, I wouldn't be the person I am today and have the success I have today.

      Some people get too comfortable with their 9-5 jobs that they never experience any risk in life and they stay in a cocoon of contentment. And at the end of their long uneventful lives most of them look back at it all with regret...

      Like they say... "A Life Without Risk Is No Life At All"

      That doesn't mean make stupid decisions, but don't be afraid to try something bold. And don't be afraid to fail.
      So true man. It's funny how when the chips are down you will work tooth and nail to get back up again, yet when things are peachy you'll just cruise through.

      It sounds like we're of the same thinking, I have had some pretty lean times, I'm talking paying for things in 10 cent pieces, while I wasn't searching through bins it was tough but it certainly motivated me.

      The 9 to 5 grind is the norm, I get that and if you LOVE what you're doing 9 to 5 good for you, but there are so many people I know that basically hate their work and only do it to pay bills, and it seems like the only time they are really enjoying themselves in on Saturday and Sunday. It just seems like such a waste to me.

      I like your quote and I think you've nailed what I have been trying to say.
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