37 to 497 - should I?

by jkiley
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My product is currently priced at 37 dollars, and I have been doing lots of reading on this forum and war room and now I am seriously thinking of changing the price to 497 - yes 497.

Should I do it? What will be the implications? (except that I won't have any sale for weeks probably). There is no better product in the market, then I have. All the other ones are either free or very cheap - but they don't work. Mine does. I am always told, don't compete on the price. Compete on the service. So, I am taking this advice and just moving myself out of that price range completely.

I will also be including an ebook for 101 tips and secrets in my niche.

Do you think I am insane? pros, cons?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
    I guess that depends on if you think that the people that use your product would pay $497.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Lancaster
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    • Profile picture of the author jkiley
      Originally Posted by James Lancaster View Post

      You should tell use more about the product in order to judge.
      Please check my signature.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommen
    Why not keep the $37 price, but make it into a monthly subscription service if possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author MicahF7
    why $497..... Why not something a little hire but something everyone could afford... Like $197 or $247.

    That way you may still get the volume of sales and still at a higher price. How many are you moving at $47.

    Can you market bare that price?

    I would consider what tommen said... make it some type of a recurring thing and that will increase your value per customer a lot.


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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      You basically have a product in the 'looking for a bargin' niche, so bumping your price to $497 seems counterintuitive.

      I don't see the logic...

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      • Profile picture of the author jkiley
        Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

        You basically have a product in the 'looking for a bargin' niche, so bumping your price to $497 seems counterintuitive.

        I don't see the logic...

        KJ
        I agree with you, but the product is mostly used by businesses, car delaers and freelancers, and web designers etc. People who are buying 10 dollar item are not going to buy this product anyway.
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        • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
          Originally Posted by jkiley View Post

          I agree with you, but the product is mostly used by businesses, car delaers and freelancers, and web designers etc. People who are buying 10 dollar item are not going to buy this product anyway.
          Well, then that's your market, and if your sales letter is strong enough to convince that crowd that what they are getting is a big fat ROI if they buy your product, then I do see the logic.

          That market should be addressed exclusively and your sales pitch should not try to include other groups who just happen to use CL. If you dilute the message at that price you will confuse those who are looking for a tool that gives them a bonified edge over the competition.

          Sounds like you have a test campaign in your future...

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          • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
            Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

            Well, then that's your market, and if your sales letter is strong enough to convince that crowd that what they are getting is a big fat ROI if they buy your product, then I do see the logic.

            That market should be addressed exclusively and your sales pitch should not try to include other groups who just happen to use CL. If you dilute the message at that price you will confuse those who are looking for a tool that gives them a bonified edge over the competition.

            Sounds like you have a test campaign in your future...

            KJ
            Completely agree with the above. That's a helluva price increase. But even if
            you increased to something around 200 or a little more, you would need to
            address your current copy.

            If you want to target businesses who can afford your new price, you'll need to market
            exclusively to them. You'll need to show them why they need your product, what it will
            do for them, and how it will provide excellent value and benefits for their business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    You do realize you have free competition with similar features, right?

    http://www.onlineleadfinder.com/

    Just a heads up in case you didn't know. Either way, you won't know until you test. $497 is steep, though. I think $197 is a nice "in-between" that hardcore CL marketers will invest in.
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    • Profile picture of the author jkiley
      Originally Posted by BlueSquares View Post

      You do realize you have free competition with similar features, right?

      http://www.onlineleadfinder.com/

      Just a heads up in case you didn't know. Either way, you won't know until you test. $497 is steep, though. I think $197 is a nice "in-between" that hardcore CL marketers will invest in.
      Yes, I do know (and mentioned that in my original post as well), but none of them really work. They are buggy and have no support, and feature-less. Mine has been reviewed by PC World as the best searching tool for craigslist.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Originally Posted by jkiley View Post

        Mine has been reviewed by PC World as the best searching tool for craigslist.

        Have you added it to all of the software download sites?

        I'd keep the price somewhat low and go for volume. As you make updates, charge a small fee to upgrade.

        Then, you'll also have a large database of buyers. So you can get busy tweaking the code to make software for doing the same kind of stuff for ebay, etc. and promoting them to your buyers list.

        That's my $0.02
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  • Profile picture of the author Yourup
    That better be one heck of a whopping product to jack the price up so high!

    These days there's so much competition that your product might just be skipped in lieu of a similar cheaper product. I suggest upping the price a little and seeing if you still get a good response, but such a drastic price increase might mean the death of it.

    ...just my 2 cents worth
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
    What are the main users of your product using it for? To find a used sofa (tens or hundreds of dollars)? Or to find antique cars to buy (thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars)?

    Don't price yourself out of what your products target market can bear.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    You have received some good and interesting posts and responses, Here is my 2 or 3 cents, take it or leave it,:rolleyes:

    As a buyer and seller, I can tell you the one thing that so many people seem to over look when attempting to sell a product or service.

    What will it do for the buyer,

    Will it make the buyer rich? Probably not, but hey you never know.

    Will it be so valuable that no one could possibly re-produce it in another form?

    Will it be so unique that you are the only one that can provide the service?

    If it is all of those things, raise the price, but I think that you would make more by providing more value and keeping the price affordable, several other warriors also made the same observation, and I agree.

    Make your product all those things and then jack the price up so high no one can afford to buy it,)

    Wait, that makes no sense...

    You could do that but you already know the answer to the question in that case then I would find a way to add value to your product so that it starts selling like hotcakes, at the currant price point, if you sold 200 copies at 37 bucks today would you feel differently?

    the question you need to ask your self is what is keeping my product from selling that many copies in one day?

    Hope that helps in some small way, in any event have a great day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Suthan M
    If i say $100000,97.00 also is good, will you do it ?

    Of course not , right ?
    Apply the same idea then

    Test and track. Analyze what is the market "agreeable" date before you hike it up.

    Price it according to what you think is a "fair price", by putting in the value of your time, effort and value that you put into it.

    Hope this helps ya !
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Picture a simple navy blue, crew neck T-shirt.

    What is the difference between a blue T-shirt sold by Walmart and a blue T-shirt sold at a Ralph Lauren Polo store?

    About $20. $10 at wallyworld and $30 at RLP... oh yes, and a logo on the higher priced shirt.

    It is all about perception. How will potential users perceive your product?

    Years ago I gave away a retail product free, and found mostly freebie seekers coming for it. I then put a $19 price on it and had an average back-end sale of $125. Next I upped the price to $39 and found the average back-end sale jumped to $688.

    Then I tried $49, and no one bought! Every product has its maximum, and you need to test to find it.

    BTW yesterday I found the RLP T-shirts at a Park City RLP store being closed out at the same $10 usually charged for "plain" T-shirts at Walmart, and Walmart was already sold out because it is the end of Summer.

    :-Don
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
    I do think you're under-charging at $37. I would try to mark it up to $97 and see what the response is.

    Do you have any other products that you're developing to sell them on once they become part of your list?
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  • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
    Women are having trouble affording a $5 lipstick in this economy and if someone can't buy a $5 lipstick they are unlikely to ante up as much as $400+

    I assume your product is digital? But I can think of very few products that are digital I would ante up $497 for...none in fact.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

      Women are having trouble affording a $5 lipstick in this economy and if someone can't buy a $5 lipstick they are unlikely to ante up as much as $400+
      Some people are choosing not to participate in the "tanked economy" world. As for this product, the people who can't afford $5 lipstick are obviously not the target market for even the $37 version.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
    I am one of those in the War Room who has advocated for raising prices (so that you can deliver greater value and communicate that advantage better).

    But such a wild swing in pricing seems a little... unsubstantiated.

    I would suggest an immediate bump to $67 as a "special discount" prior to an impending permanent price change of $127 for the software and test.

    If you do better at $67, do the $127 bump and test.

    Introduce new features or some demonstrated value add with each bump.

    Best,

    Brian
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    • Profile picture of the author Tam Chancellor
      In a previous life (several years ago), I was a VAR for a software company. The retail price was around $1600. I got it at a 50% discount. There were other software programs that weren't nearly as user friendly and didn't have the advanced features as the one I sold. Those programs sold for up to $10K.

      Even though the doctors were being squeezed by managed care and HMOs (in California), my sales increased tremendously when I tripled my selling price. I added services that my competition didn't...two day training in the office and one hour call back for service calls.

      You'll never know how much people are willing to pay until you test. Repackage the software with value added features and services. Give the package a special name. No matter what the economy, there are always people will to pay more to feel special.

      Tam

      P.S. Check out Dan Kennedy's book...Marketing to the Affluent
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      I agree with Brian.

      You could bump the price to $67 (or whatever).
      • Then you could have a webinar demonstration of the software in use. You can do this only once if you want and then just include the recorded version for new customers. (This could also be a pre-sell & list building technique).
      • You can include a report describing X number of ways to use the software so it pays for itself in under a week. Then, host a webinar walking through each method.
      • You can do a Q&A/Update teleseminar monthly or bi-monthly
      Originally Posted by BrianMcLeod View Post

      I would suggest an immediate bump to $67 as a "special discount" prior to an impending permanent price change of $127 for the software and test.

      If you do better at $67, do the $127 bump and test.

      Introduce new features or some demonstrated value add with each bump.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
    If you repackage you can sell it for that price for sure. Find a way of offering 497 in value first then double that. That will certainly help with your conversion rate.

    But that does seem like a huge price. When I visited your site at first glance i did not see a 497 value.
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