My 4000th post and idea to make $$

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Well this is my 4000th post and I thought instead of being critical and snarky I would give a business idea to all interested.

Almost every day someone comes to the warrior forum and poses the question "How can I make money online" The answers are always the same. Build a list, affiliate marketing, make your own product, etc. etc. All good ideas but most of the answers to this question lack direction. So here is my idea with all the details. Please note I have not done any detailed research and I have no intention of doing this on my own. Why? because I don't want to. I do not have the patience for it, and I do not like dealing with people.

What will you need.

1. A good sales page/lead page WP plugin. I recommend Instabuilder or Thrive Themes, but use whatever one you feel comfortable with. Just make sure you have a developer license so you can install on a clients website. For all you programmers and coders out there that think doing your own coding is the way to go, you would be wrong. you will be developing these sites for people who are most likely not coders so you want their turnkey product to be as easy to use as possible.

2. Software to create banners. There are many free ones available just google it. You can also utilize fiverr for this.

3. you will need the knowledge of how to set up a sales funnel with upsells and a sequence for future sales. This is important, if you can't do this then wait until you have learned before you jump into it.

4. A professional website for your clients to learn who you are. You will also use this to showcase a portfolio of sample sites.

5. The ability to write copy or have some freelancers on hand that can do this for you. If you use freelancers you will probably need to charge more for your services.

6. Become and affiliate for anything you use i.e. instabuilder, autoresponder, domain host, web host, a good theme that you are using and can recommend, etc.

7. Paypal account or Merchant account to accept payments. For all you people that live in places that paypal does not do business in, this could be a problem. I believe, and I could be wrong, that most people do not want to sign up for these payment solutions similar to paypal but are not paypal. So, you should go to your local bank and try and get a merchant account or find a third party solution to handle this for you.

What will you be doing?

You will be re-making clickbank sales pages.

One of the first things I learned years ago about promoting clickbank products was to first look at the sales page. And, the first thing you look for are leaks. There are great products on clickbank that no one will promote due to the sales
page leaks. Second is sales copy, some of the copy is just terrible. Formatting is another issue. If a page is hard to read due to formatting like large bright letters, too many colors in the copy, you have to scroll side to side to read a
line of text, then not only will customers leave the site, affiliate marketers will not promote.

There are 2 types of people that sell products on clickbank. There are the marketers. For the most part they are the ones with higher gravity, great sales copy, and no leaks on their page. Then there are the people that actually know what they are talking about in their particular niche, but noone is promoting their product because of leaks, bad copy, or bad formatting. These will be your clients. There are over 10,000 products and vendors so it will not be difficult to find prospects.

So, first you need to identify these vendors. All you really need to do is use the advanced search function on clickbank.

Set the gravity for "lower than 1" then just start looking at the sales pages to see who might be in need of help. Now some of these pages could be fine it is just they are new or are not marketing their product properly, this is another
avenue you can pursue if you have experience doing JV's. Or, you could make a note and start a niche site to promote such products.

Second. Buy the product and see if it is actually quality content. Do not get too wrapped up in the grammar and spelling, focus on the content. As part of your services you can offer re-writes and editing. Also you want to buy the product so you can get on the vendors email list and see what the follow up sequence is like, this could be another income stream for you.

Third. Prepare your proposal, some of these products just need a new sales page, some need a total makeover. Decide what is best for the vendor.

Fourth. Make intital contact. I would actually make intial contact before you actually buy. this way you know they are still involved with the product, although, if they have the clickbank badge on their site then you know they have been active at least within the last year. I would just email them and say something like. "Hey, I just saw this product is it still available for purchase" Then you will end up with the owners email address, in most cases. Make your purchase, wait a while then open a dialog with the vendor explaining why their gravity is so low and how you might be able to help them increase affiliates and sales.

Once you get the commitment you can start. I would probably have different packages with different levels of service. For example. I would want the vendor to have 2 sales pages. One for themselves and one for affiliates. That way they can have their own on their blog/website and have a separate domain for the affiliate page. Another level of service would be a affiliate page with banners and email swipes as well as articles, tweets, memes, and whatever else you can think of. Then there is the email funnel for the vendor to increase their own sales. As well you could suggest other products to promote to their own list.

There you have it in a nutshell. There is much more you can do with this if you take the time to think and plan.

Remember, I did not do any detailed research. This is just an idea and that is what forums are for, sharing and discussing actionable ideas. I have probably left a lot of things out as I wrote this off the cuff, that is where your creative
thinking comes in.

Good luck, Thanks, and I look forward to getting back to posting rude comments in other peoples threads

al
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  • Profile picture of the author Pradeep Bhagwat
    It is really cool idea agmccall. But anyone who will try he should have to do it step by step as you described. It will get paid after some hard work no doubt.

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  • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
    Congrats on the 4K old boy well done

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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Al
    Great post this can help get some newbies off on the right track. They have to want to do actual work to see results. Chasing shiney objects and just asking questing on a forum is not going to help. Thanks for the information.
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  • Profile picture of the author RefuseToLose
    Congrats on the 4k post. The idea you suggest is solid and there are people who actually do this, but unfortunately I think your advice will fall on deaf ears like all the other advice here, because...

    You said people come to this forum everyday and ask: "How can I make money online".

    I think what those people are really asking is: "How can I make money online while doing absolutely nothing, while browsing facebook, checking emails, and watching cat videos for 90% of my day. Oh and how can I make at least $3,000 a month so I don't have to go to work anymore, because work sucks. Oh... and how can I accomplish this with my budget of $20 I found in my pocket after a night out at the bar where I spent $100 on alcohol...

    Oh and one more thing. I want something that is built for me so I can press a button and make money. I don't have time to read or learn a new skill. Please respond with REAL solutions. Thank you".

    Who knows... Maybe your post will inspire someone to take action, if this helps at least one person that's all that matters.
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    • Profile picture of the author debmedia
      Hehe just right. But it is also right that here some seller selling their products and as they prepare their sales copy just like they actually make a money tree which just need to purchase and money will automatically start entering in PayPal.
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      • Profile picture of the author agmccall
        Originally Posted by debmedia View Post

        Hehe just right. But it is also right that here some seller selling their products and as they prepare their sales copy just like they actually make a money tree which just need to purchase and money will automatically start entering in PayPal.

        umm I have no idea what this says

        al
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        • Profile picture of the author chemo38
          Originally Posted by agmccall View Post

          umm I have no idea what this says

          al

          Congratulations! He has won WF's Longest Run On Sentence Award!

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  • Profile picture of the author boblyle
    Well, Al .. first off congrats on post #4000! Quite the feat I must say that with the snarky attitude of yours you've managed to stick around for that many posts! Well done. (No offense intended) Seems as though you have put together a plan that may actually work, if implemented. Although i don't see many "newbies" jumping on board with the idea, it's definitely a doable plan but someone with a bit more experience could make it happen. Great idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Good post Al. And, for the most part, I appreciate your snark and criticism. Most of the time it's right on target.

    Thanks for your contributions to the forum. And, keep sharing ideas like this.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author AussieCoz
    Happy 4000th post, surely you get a set of steak knives or something for that
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  • Profile picture of the author hardworker2013
    My experience of the years about clickbank products is to send traffic to my own lead capture page and collect leads first before sending them to the clickbank sales page. The conversions are higher that way.
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      Originally Posted by hardworker2013 View Post

      My experience of the years about clickbank products is to send traffic to my own lead capture page and collect leads first before sending them to the clickbank sales page. The conversions are higher that way.
      That's great, but what does it have to do with this thread

      al
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  • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
    BOOM! Insane value! Hopefully beginners actually take action on this and don't just use it for more mental masturbation.
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      Originally Posted by Edwin Torres View Post

      BOOM! Insane value! Hopefully beginners actually take action on this and don't just use it for more mental masturbation.
      I think it is the fact that many will stop when they realize they might need to acutally "Buy" quality tools to do this.

      al
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  • Profile picture of the author Waleedahmed2326
    I haven't worked in internet, Can somebody just tell me where I have to go first I mean what I have to learn before earning money online?
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    yup, good plan..

    you can even add sales page videos to your list of services.

    Thanks again,
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  • Profile picture of the author neshaword
    "Good luck, Thanks, and I look forward to getting back to posting rude comments in other peoples threads"

    No need to worry about comments retaliation, lol. Now, I don't like the idea of 4K candles on your cake. Use only 4 like I did for my 40th birthday. Regarding your wishes, imagine WF without me. Wouldn't that be a wonderful place, but a little bit boring, lol. My thread without your comment is like, is like... You are creative and you'll come up with a funny comparison, lol. Regarding my bobble-head-doll, I have to admit that Lord Varys , if you watch Game of Thrones, but I'm afraid that's not your thing, is my closest look alike. Wishing you 40K more posts and good health. Of course, the majority of these comments will be reserved for my works of art. Otherwise, I will take it personally, lol. All the best! Yours and only yours, Nesha Word
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  • Profile picture of the author SuperBlog
    Good idea, but I think, these people without sales are not asking themselves about the reason, otherwise they would find wat to change.
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  • Profile picture of the author kilgore
    Congrats on 4,000 posts, Al!

    And an interesting idea too!
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  • Profile picture of the author oppyeaunome
    Happy 4000th post. The information you've shared in this post is very valuable. The only problem is like most posts the people reading won't take action. Most people come in to Internet marketing thinking that it's all about pushing a few buttons and making a lot of money.

    As I'm reading this post in my mind I'm thinking about the different ways that I can spin this and make it into a method of my own.

    Thanks for sharing this.
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Nice Al. You have really been such a great contributor here over the years. Keep it up
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  • Profile picture of the author debmedia
    Awesome idea. I must appreciate. I will start a website with affiliate help package. Complete package with seo, smm and all.
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  • Profile picture of the author debmedia
    It is a really good idea. I will try it. But I have a question to other warriors. Every warriors telling that we need to make the email list by giving free things like ebooks etc, create opt-in page, sales funnel. Its ok. But tell me how we show this page to people that we make that page?? means what will be the way to market them?? the beginners know the only way is google adwords or facebook marketing, that also by spending money, otherwise if we post the same link again and again then we can also go to facebook jail. So what will be the marketing blast by which we can inform people about our website??
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      Originally Posted by debmedia View Post

      It is a really good idea. I will try it. But I have a question to other warriors. Every warriors telling that we need to make the email list by giving free things like ebooks etc, create opt-in page, sales funnel. Its ok. But tell me how we show this page to people that we make that page?? means what will be the way to market them?? the beginners know the only way is google adwords or facebook marketing, that also by spending money, otherwise if we post the same link again and again then we can also go to facebook jail. So what will be the marketing blast by which we can inform people about our website??
      I really do not know what you are asking, does your question have anything to do with this thread

      al
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    That's a nice twist how we can use clickbank to make money ourselves.
    It also shows if we can use the normal tools bit differently, it can be more effective!
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  • This is really fantastic idea, I'm really glad that you shared it with everyone here

    And congratulations for achieving your 4000th post. That takes alot of work and committment to the forum!
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  • Profile picture of the author many10s
    Originally Posted by agmccall View Post

    Well this is my 4000th post and I thought instead of being critical and snarky I would give a business idea to all interested.

    Almost every day someone comes to the warrior forum and poses the question "How can I make money online" The answers are always the same. Build a list, affiliate marketing, make your own product, etc. etc. All good ideas but most of the answers to this question lack direction. So here is my idea with all the details. Please note I have not done any detailed research and I have no intention of doing this on my own. Why? because I don't want to. I do not have the patience for it, and I do not like dealing with people.

    What will you need.

    1. A good sales page/lead page WP plugin. I recommend Instabuilder or Thrive Themes, but use whatever one you feel comfortable with. Just make sure you have a developer license so you can install on a clients website. For all you programmers and coders out there that think doing your own coding is the way to go, you would be wrong. you will be developing these sites for people who are most likely not coders so you want their turnkey product to be as easy to use as possible.

    2. Software to create banners. There are many free ones available just google it. You can also utilize fiverr for this.

    3. you will need the knowledge of how to set up a sales funnel with upsells and a sequence for future sales. This is important, if you can't do this then wait until you have learned before you jump into it.

    4. A professional website for your clients to learn who you are. You will also use this to showcase a portfolio of sample sites.

    5. The ability to write copy or have some freelancers on hand that can do this for you. If you use freelancers you will probably need to charge more for your services.

    6. Become and affiliate for anything you use i.e. instabuilder, autoresponder, domain host, web host, a good theme that you are using and can recommend, etc.

    7. Paypal account or Merchant account to accept payments. For all you people that live in places that paypal does not do business in, this could be a problem. I believe, and I could be wrong, that most people do not want to sign up for these payment solutions similar to paypal but are not paypal. So, you should go to your local bank and try and get a merchant account or find a third party solution to handle this for you.

    What will you be doing?

    You will be re-making clickbank sales pages.

    One of the first things I learned years ago about promoting clickbank products was to first look at the sales page. And, the first thing you look for are leaks. There are great products on clickbank that no one will promote due to the sales
    page leaks. Second is sales copy, some of the copy is just terrible. Formatting is another issue. If a page is hard to read due to formatting like large bright letters, too many colors in the copy, you have to scroll side to side to read a
    line of text, then not only will customers leave the site, affiliate marketers will not promote.

    There are 2 types of people that sell products on clickbank. There are the marketers. For the most part they are the ones with higher gravity, great sales copy, and no leaks on their page. Then there are the people that actually know what they are talking about in their particular niche, but noone is promoting their product because of leaks, bad copy, or bad formatting. These will be your clients. There are over 10,000 products and vendors so it will not be difficult to find prospects.

    So, first you need to identify these vendors. All you really need to do is use the advanced search function on clickbank.

    Set the gravity for "lower than 1" then just start looking at the sales pages to see who might be in need of help. Now some of these pages could be fine it is just they are new or are not marketing their product properly, this is another
    avenue you can pursue if you have experience doing JV's. Or, you could make a note and start a niche site to promote such products.

    Second. Buy the product and see if it is actually quality content. Do not get too wrapped up in the grammar and spelling, focus on the content. As part of your services you can offer re-writes and editing. Also you want to buy the product so you can get on the vendors email list and see what the follow up sequence is like, this could be another income stream for you.

    Third. Prepare your proposal, some of these products just need a new sales page, some need a total makeover. Decide what is best for the vendor.

    Fourth. Make intital contact. I would actually make intial contact before you actually buy. this way you know they are still involved with the product, although, if they have the clickbank badge on their site then you know they have been active at least within the last year. I would just email them and say something like. "Hey, I just saw this product is it still available for purchase" Then you will end up with the owners email address, in most cases. Make your purchase, wait a while then open a dialog with the vendor explaining why their gravity is so low and how you might be able to help them increase affiliates and sales.

    Once you get the commitment you can start. I would probably have different packages with different levels of service. For example. I would want the vendor to have 2 sales pages. One for themselves and one for affiliates. That way they can have their own on their blog/website and have a separate domain for the affiliate page. Another level of service would be a affiliate page with banners and email swipes as well as articles, tweets, memes, and whatever else you can think of. Then there is the email funnel for the vendor to increase their own sales. As well you could suggest other products to promote to their own list.

    There you have it in a nutshell. There is much more you can do with this if you take the time to think and plan.

    Remember, I did not do any detailed research. This is just an idea and that is what forums are for, sharing and discussing actionable ideas. I have probably left a lot of things out as I wrote this off the cuff, that is where your creative
    thinking comes in.

    Good luck, Thanks, and I look forward to getting back to posting rude comments in other peoples threads

    al
    Good recommendations. This is a great plan to follow. Thanks for the detailed way to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Al,

    Congrats on your 4000 posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author jayb87
    Congrats on the 4000th post! keep them coming!...and great advice. I think thats the most asked question " How can I make money online? " and I personally think you answered that question in a nutshell very well. Direction is what most of us need...Thanks
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