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5 years ago

Just go in the WSO section there are many programs there...

You can get a step by step system for under $100...Just make sure to check the reviews of the program and you will end up buying something good. Most of these programs offer a money back guarantee too so if it sucks, get a refund.

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Regional Warrior

5 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

Just go in the WSO section there are many programs there...

You can get a step by step system for under $100...Just make sure to check the reviews of the program and you will end up buying something good. Most of these programs offer a money back guarantee too so if it sucks, get a refund.

Nice self promotion there

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talfighel

5 years ago

Originally Posted by Norkali

Anyone have any recommendations for a proven sustainable coaching progam? Something under a grand, but has results within thirty days?
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You want to be careful who you take your advice from. There are many people online who are making less then $100 per month and they "teach" others how to earn "$1,000's of dollars without lifting a finger".

It's the "blind leading the blind"and it gets you NOWHERE.

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MValmont

5 years ago

Originally Posted by talfighel

You want to be careful who you take your advice from. There are many people online who are making less then $100 per month and they "teach" others how to earn "$1,000's of dollars without lifting a finger".

It's the "blind leading the blind"and it gets you NOWHERE.

I always see people saying this, but I never see ay examples of this...

Care to give us a few examples of people coaching people who are making no money online?

I'm asking this because, I do coach people online and sometimes by Skypes and let me tell you...It would be pretty much impossible to coach someone without actually making money online. How would I answer the questions?

I actually trust more the people who offer 1 on 1 coaching than the people with an affiliate link in their signature. THESE people are the ones that often don't know what they are talking about and they sadly offer advice on forums to get views for their signature (in hope of getting click). This is quite sad.

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lgibbon

Banned 5 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

Care to give us a few examples of people coaching people who are making no money online?

We wouldn't be allowed to name them
as the forum rules don't permit it.
Besides that, there wouldn't be enough room
on the page to fit them all in.

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MValmont

5 years ago

Originally Posted by lgibbon

We wouldn't be allowed to name them
as the forum rules don't permit it.
Besides that, there wouldn't be enough room
on the page to fit them all in.

You tried all of them and got proof of what you re saying? Because if you are 100% sure they don't, why don't you provide the proof...Would be really easy to do...Otherwise, Talk is cheap and THIS could be the only real fraud in this thread.

Because as I said, I find it really, REALLY hard to believe that someone able to coach people without knowing what to do.

It's like someone faking to be a DR. Sounds possible on paper, but how would he actually execute this?

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lgibbon Banned 5 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

You tried all of them and got proof of what you re saying? Because if you are 100% sure they don't, why don't you provide the proof...

No I'm not stupid enough to pay anyone claiming to be a coach here.
We don't need much proof.
The bad English and bad grammar are usually a good giveaway.
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- MValmont 5 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by lgibbon
  
  No I'm not stupid enough to pay anyone claiming to be a coach here.
  We don't need much proof.
  The bad English and bad grammar are usually a good giveaway.
  
  Sure, Bad English and marketing skills are super super correlated according to a new Harvard University study...
  
  Not.
  
  Logic 101, the new requirement to make it in Online marketing.
  
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Brent Stangel

5 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

It's like someone faking to be a DR. Sounds possible on paper, but how would he actually execute this?

You are really unfamiliar with the concept of a con man??

The perpetrator of a confidence trick (or "con trick") is often referred to as a confidence (or "con") man, con-artist, or a "grifter". Samuel Thompson (18211856) was the original "confidence man." Thompson was a clumsy swindler who asked his victims to express confidence in him by giving him money or their watch rather than gaining their confidence in a more nuanced way. A few people trusted Thompson with their money and watches.[1] Thompson was arrested in July 1849. Reporting about this arrest, Dr. James Houston, a reporter of the New York Herald, publicized Thompson by naming him the "Confidence Man".[2] Although Thompson was an unsuccessful scammer, he gained reputation as a genius operator mostly because Houston's satirical writing wasn't understood.[2] The National Police Gazette coined the term "confidence game" a few weeks after Houston first used the name, the "confidence man."[2]

A confidence trick is also known as a con game, a con, a scam, a grift, a hustle, a bunko (or bunco), a swindle, a flimflam, a gaffle or a bamboozle. The intended victims are known as "marks", "suckers", or "gulls" (i.e., gullible). When accomplices are employed, they are known as shills. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

It's all here...

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Gambino 5 years ago

Originally Posted by lgibbon

We wouldn't be allowed to name them
as the forum rules don't permit it.
Besides that, there wouldn't be enough room
on the page to fit them all in.

Bingo. I saw a video of a somewhat well known 'coach' who was selling his high-ticket coaching program to newbies by literally saying "there's always someone that knows less than you." It's a shame.
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Roger Brown

5 years ago

Originally Posted by talfighel

You want to be careful who you take your advice from. There are many people online who are making less then $100 per month and they "teach" others how to earn "$1,000's of dollars without lifting a finger".

It's the "blind leading the blind"and it gets you NOWHERE.

This is true. Several marketers had been given the boot for doing exactly this.

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MValmont

5 years ago

Originally Posted by Roger Brown

This is true. Several marketers had been given the boot for doing exactly this.

The warrior forum should require some sort of proof of revenue from anybody making income claim on this website.

That would fix A LOT of things!!

This way, all the fraudsters would be gone and all the mad ones, you know those that think EVERYTHING IS A SCAM because they failed couldn't say anything anymore.

I'm all for it. Warrior forum should implement this right now.

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Mark Singletary

5 years ago

How in the world would anyone be able to prove that the proof was real? Almost everything can be faked.

The only real way I know of is the one the WSO section has started using. Only if the seller sold their products and made their income through Warrior Payments can they use an income claim. That way the WF staff can verify that indeed Joe sold $197,385.45 of ebooks about training mice to play the piano in 3 hours.

Other than that, it would be almost impossible to prove.

Mark

Originally Posted by MValmont

The warrior forum should require some sort of proof of revenue from anybody making income claim on this website.

That would fix A LOT of things!!

This way, all the fraudsters would be gone and all the mad ones, you know those that think EVERYTHING IS A SCAM because they failed couldn't say anything anymore.

I'm all for it. Warrior forum should implement this right now.

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MValmont

5 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Singletary

How in the world would anyone be able to prove that the proof was real? Almost everything can be faked.

The only real way I know of is the one the WSO section has started using. Only if the seller sold their products and made their income through Warrior Payments can they use an income claim. That way the WF staff can verify that indeed Joe sold $197,385.45 of ebooks about training mice to play the piano in 3 hours.

Other than that, it would be almost impossible to prove.

Mark

What I'm most interested in is the Warrior forum asking for PROOF to the people claiming that everything is a scam.

It lowers the quality of this forum.

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Regional Warrior

5 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

What I'm most interested in is the Warrior forum asking for PROOF to the people claiming that everything is a scam.

I would kick out these people so fast their head would spin.

It lowers the quality of this forum.

There will always be people who will game the system just human nature would you not agree?
Ever since I have been a member on here there has been scams , and in the wild days when Allan Says owned it the WSO had some amazing claims and same thing people would complain same as here

And there is an out for the new owners in the rules and that is take it up with the other person not on here.

Jason

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lgibbon

Banned 5 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

It lowers the quality of this forum.

What lowers the quality of this forum,
is the sheer number of members selling
coaching in their sig files, who have
absolutely no qualifications at all.
It wouldn't be allowed in any other profession
so it shouldn't be allowed here.

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MValmont

5 years ago

Originally Posted by lgibbon

What lowers the quality of this forum,
is the sheer number of members selling
coaching in their sig files, who have
absolutely no qualifications at all.
It wouldn't be allowed in any other profession
so it shouldn't be allowed here.

Look,

I'm tired of you trying to attack me all the time.

I sold thousands of this program and I got less than 50 refunds,

You didn't buy it so you know ABSOLUTELY nothing about this program,

You have 6000 posts and you NEVER bring any value on this forum,

People like you should be kick out of this forum so fast their head would spin.

Let's be honest: In this world there are winners and Losers, and unfortunately for you, you didn't win the genetics lottery. I HIGHLY recommend you to quit online marketing (Wait...did you even actually tried...?) instead of thinking that EVERYTHING is a scam.

It's none of our business if you are not successful. Stop being mad, stop being paranoid, and especially, stop making a fool of yourself.

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lgibbon Banned 5 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

Look,

I'm tired of you trying to attack me all the time.

Um? I don't remember naming you at all.
But if the cap fits...................

Originally Posted by MValmont

stop making a fool of yourself.

There's only one person making a fool of himself in this thread.
I'll give you a clue. It's not me.

Keep on digging that hole.
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Regional Warrior

5 years ago

Listen you can here the tune from the movie Jaws

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Splatterfox

5 years ago

Originally Posted by Norkali

Anyone have any recommendations for a proven sustainable coaching progam? Something under a grand, but has results within thirty days?
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Originally Posted by talfighel

You want to be careful who you take your advice from. There are many people online who are making less then $100 per month and they "teach" others how to earn "$1,000's of dollars without lifting a finger".

It's the "blind leading the blind"and it gets you NOWHERE.

The thing is too many people have huge misconceptions about coaching. Everytime I hear coaching and training I see the words "guaranteed", "5-figures", "hasslefree", "fast" everywhere. Seriously, its not that a coaching can magically make you successful. If you want a guaranteed successful business, buy one. I see the fault also at many coaches themselves though, since they advertise their coachings in an unrealistic and "hype" way.

I remember a client saying that my eCommerce coaching fee of $97 an hour (so far I had a 100% satisfaction and high retention rate) was too high, since I couldn't guarantee him my own results (six-figure eCommerce sales).

I always try to emphasize the learning aspect. You want to make longterm money? You have to learn something and execute, not just copy a step-by-step method. Businesses don't work that way. You can see it in the current AliExpress dropshipping scene. Everyone is doing it basically exactly the same way, copying gurus and following "methods", yet more than 95% of them are not making anything.

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Regional Warrior

5 years ago

I have to agree with the others on this , there are warriors on the forum now who I have never heard of selling coaching !!! or the ones who used to sell a coaching course but all videos so was hard to get the right feel they no cred at all but some people will be taken in by some these sharks

I used to pick out 4 warriors a year and coach them for nothing as my way to give back to the WF
If you decide to go the coaching way ask for refs of students

Jason

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4DayWeekend

5 years ago

In terms of sustainability, a lot depends on you rather than the program.

I guess it's a bit like asking which diet is sustainable. Well, all of them will fail if you decide to gauge on cake, ice cream, beer and bottomless french fries the day after you start.

Weight loss will depend on your will power, effort and sticking to the plan.

With that in mind, I'd suggest picking coaching in an area that you think you're going to stick to. If you like the idea of CPA, pick a coach who specialises in CPA; if you like affiliate marketing, pick a coach who specialises in affiliate marketing...

That way you're more likely to find a program that is sustainable for you.

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Don Mann

5 years ago

Digital Elites by Chuck Nguyen. He is giving away a free downloadable ebook, on what his coaching program shows the steps, he made in 9 months. Over $200K and whole lot more.

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lgibbon

Banned 5 years ago

Originally Posted by Don Mann

Digital Elites by Chuck Nguyen. He is giving away a free downloadable ebook, on what his coaching program shows the steps, he made in 9 months. Over $200K and whole lot more.

Yes, we've seen the results of his coaching.
He sends dozens of his puppets to junk post in forums
with their affiliate links to his site.
That's real genius.

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MValmont 5 years ago

Originally Posted by lgibbon

Yes, we've seen the results of his coaching.
He sends dozens of his puppets to junk post in forums
with their affiliate links to his site.
That's real genius.

Got any proof?
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- lgibbon Banned 5 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MValmont
  
  Got any proof?
  
  I'm sure the mods can verify this as they've had to remove
  the sig files of numerous members all with the same squeeze
  page that was made for them.
  
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  MValmont 5 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by lgibbon
  
  I'm sure the mods can verify this as they've had to remove
  the sig files of numerous members all with the same squeeze
  page that was made for them.
  
  You previously said that I'm a scammer and my sig is still here,
  
  So if I were you, I would't trust my (your) judgment too much
  
  PS: Looks like your good friend got banned too,
  
  99% of the people here are not scammer and offer value. Jumping on everyone selling something is not a good strategy.
  
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  PaulSch 5 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MValmont
  
  99% of the people here are not scammer and offer value.
  
  Where do you get this figure? Can you back it up or did you just pull it out of the air?
  
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kandabrewer 5 years ago

I concur! Chuck's a terrific coach and his coaching program is a steal right now. Get it now before he wises up!
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JohnVianny

5 years ago

Coaching program... for WHAT?

make money online?

Better you understand the principal steps for free and u take coaching for the crucial steps or the steps you dont know, the crucial one like Email Marketing

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Steve B

5 years ago

Originally Posted by Norkali

Anyone have any recommendations for a proven sustainable coaching progam? Something under a grand, but has results within thirty days? Thanks

Norkali,

Do you see what's happening in this thread? You are getting suggestions and responses in the way of offers for paid help and others telling you not to go that direction. The truth is, on a public forum like this you will get all kinds of various responses that are all over the map - often times in direct conflict with one another. Who is right? Who is pulling your leg?

Every selling system and every selling strategy can make you lots of money or it can cause you to lose lots of money. What's the difference?

You!

I would venture to say that 95% of what determines how successful any selling system is will depend upon the one implementing it. Can you apply what's needed to make something work? Do you have the intelligence, the discipline, the work ethic, and the never-say-die attitude to "force" your way into the ranks of successful online sellers?

You've been a member of this forum for 5+ years. I don't know you and your history and I'm not judging you . . . I just bring that fact up to suggest that you haven't yet attacked this business of online selling based on your post in this thread during all those years. Will you do it in the next 5 years?

Your success won't be gained through any coaching program. You will be profitable because you make it so.

The very best to you,

Steve

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shiftyeyes

5 years ago

It's probably better to find somebody who wasn't even considering coaching. It could be on any forum, just ask

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IMarketers2500

5 years ago

I met a guy on here claiming to be a "former" successful software guy made a twitter software some years ago. We talked on skype he really had me going, then he pretended he was talking to his son or daughter and say i'll call you back and then said they were having a baby. He then asked me to give $6000 to coach me on how to make money online. I realized later he was a high level con man in my opinion, he only had like 100 posts total on this forum.

What a waste of my 45 minutes.

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amuro

5 years ago

Originally Posted by Norkali

Anyone have any recommendations for a proven sustainable coaching progam? Something under a grand, but has results within thirty days?
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I do have just 1 recommendation.

Mark Ling's AffiloBlueprint.

Though there are other coaching programs as well and other members having different opinions, his course by far is the best.

From my experience and results I got from his teachings.

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