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2 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

Just go in the WSO section there are many programs there...

You can get a step by step system for under $100...Just make sure to check the reviews of the program and you will end up buying something good. Most of these programs offer a money back guarantee too so if it sucks, get a refund.

Nice self promotion there

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talfighel

2 years ago

Originally Posted by Norkali

Anyone have any recommendations for a proven sustainable coaching progam? Something under a grand, but has results within thirty days?
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You want to be careful who you take your advice from. There are many people online who are making less then $100 per month and they "teach" others how to earn "$1,000's of dollars without lifting a finger".

It's the "blind leading the blind"and it gets you NOWHERE.

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2 years ago

Originally Posted by talfighel

You want to be careful who you take your advice from. There are many people online who are making less then $100 per month and they "teach" others how to earn "$1,000's of dollars without lifting a finger".

It's the "blind leading the blind"and it gets you NOWHERE.

I always see people saying this, but I never see ay examples of this...

Care to give us a few examples of people coaching people who are making no money online?

I'm asking this because, I do coach people online and sometimes by Skypes and let me tell you...It would be pretty much impossible to coach someone without actually making money online. How would I answer the questions?

I actually trust more the people who offer 1 on 1 coaching than the people with an affiliate link in their signature. THESE people are the ones that often don't know what they are talking about and they sadly offer advice on forums to get views for their signature (in hope of getting click). This is quite sad.

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lgibbon

Banned 2 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

Care to give us a few examples of people coaching people who are making no money online?

We wouldn't be allowed to name them
as the forum rules don't permit it.
Besides that, there wouldn't be enough room
on the page to fit them all in.

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2 years ago

Originally Posted by lgibbon

We wouldn't be allowed to name them
as the forum rules don't permit it.
Besides that, there wouldn't be enough room
on the page to fit them all in.

You tried all of them and got proof of what you re saying? Because if you are 100% sure they don't, why don't you provide the proof...Would be really easy to do...Otherwise, Talk is cheap and THIS could be the only real fraud in this thread.

Because as I said, I find it really, REALLY hard to believe that someone able to coach people without knowing what to do.

It's like someone faking to be a DR. Sounds possible on paper, but how would he actually execute this?

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lgibbon Banned 2 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

You tried all of them and got proof of what you re saying? Because if you are 100% sure they don't, why don't you provide the proof...

No I'm not stupid enough to pay anyone claiming to be a coach here.
We don't need much proof.
The bad English and bad grammar are usually a good giveaway.
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  Originally Posted by lgibbon
  
  No I'm not stupid enough to pay anyone claiming to be a coach here.
  We don't need much proof.
  The bad English and bad grammar are usually a good giveaway.
  
  Sure, Bad English and marketing skills are super super correlated according to a new Harvard University study...
  
  Not.
  
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Brent Stangel

Banned 2 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

It's like someone faking to be a DR. Sounds possible on paper, but how would he actually execute this?

You are really unfamiliar with the concept of a con man??

The perpetrator of a confidence trick (or "con trick") is often referred to as a confidence (or "con") man, con-artist, or a "grifter". Samuel Thompson (18211856) was the original "confidence man." Thompson was a clumsy swindler who asked his victims to express confidence in him by giving him money or their watch rather than gaining their confidence in a more nuanced way. A few people trusted Thompson with their money and watches.[1] Thompson was arrested in July 1849. Reporting about this arrest, Dr. James Houston, a reporter of the New York Herald, publicized Thompson by naming him the "Confidence Man".[2] Although Thompson was an unsuccessful scammer, he gained reputation as a genius operator mostly because Houston's satirical writing wasn't understood.[2] The National Police Gazette coined the term "confidence game" a few weeks after Houston first used the name, the "confidence man."[2]

A confidence trick is also known as a con game, a con, a scam, a grift, a hustle, a bunko (or bunco), a swindle, a flimflam, a gaffle or a bamboozle. The intended victims are known as "marks", "suckers", or "gulls" (i.e., gullible). When accomplices are employed, they are known as shills. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

It's all here...

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Gambino 2 years ago

Originally Posted by lgibbon

We wouldn't be allowed to name them
as the forum rules don't permit it.
Besides that, there wouldn't be enough room
on the page to fit them all in.

Bingo. I saw a video of a somewhat well known 'coach' who was selling his high-ticket coaching program to newbies by literally saying "there's always someone that knows less than you." It's a shame.
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Roger Brown

2 years ago

Originally Posted by talfighel

You want to be careful who you take your advice from. There are many people online who are making less then $100 per month and they "teach" others how to earn "$1,000's of dollars without lifting a finger".

It's the "blind leading the blind"and it gets you NOWHERE.

This is true. Several marketers had been given the boot for doing exactly this.

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2 years ago

Originally Posted by Roger Brown

This is true. Several marketers had been given the boot for doing exactly this.

The warrior forum should require some sort of proof of revenue from anybody making income claim on this website.

That would fix A LOT of things!!

This way, all the fraudsters would be gone and all the mad ones, you know those that think EVERYTHING IS A SCAM because they failed couldn't say anything anymore.

I'm all for it. Warrior forum should implement this right now.

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Mark Singletary

2 years ago

How in the world would anyone be able to prove that the proof was real? Almost everything can be faked.

The only real way I know of is the one the WSO section has started using. Only if the seller sold their products and made their income through Warrior Payments can they use an income claim. That way the WF staff can verify that indeed Joe sold $197,385.45 of ebooks about training mice to play the piano in 3 hours.

Other than that, it would be almost impossible to prove.

Mark

Originally Posted by MValmont

The warrior forum should require some sort of proof of revenue from anybody making income claim on this website.

That would fix A LOT of things!!

This way, all the fraudsters would be gone and all the mad ones, you know those that think EVERYTHING IS A SCAM because they failed couldn't say anything anymore.

I'm all for it. Warrior forum should implement this right now.

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2 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Singletary

How in the world would anyone be able to prove that the proof was real? Almost everything can be faked.

The only real way I know of is the one the WSO section has started using. Only if the seller sold their products and made their income through Warrior Payments can they use an income claim. That way the WF staff can verify that indeed Joe sold $197,385.45 of ebooks about training mice to play the piano in 3 hours.

Other than that, it would be almost impossible to prove.

Mark

What I'm most interested in is the Warrior forum asking for PROOF to the people claiming that everything is a scam.

It lowers the quality of this forum.

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2 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

What I'm most interested in is the Warrior forum asking for PROOF to the people claiming that everything is a scam.

I would kick out these people so fast their head would spin.

It lowers the quality of this forum.

There will always be people who will game the system just human nature would you not agree?
Ever since I have been a member on here there has been scams , and in the wild days when Allan Says owned it the WSO had some amazing claims and same thing people would complain same as here

And there is an out for the new owners in the rules and that is take it up with the other person not on here.

Jason

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lgibbon

Banned 2 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

It lowers the quality of this forum.

What lowers the quality of this forum,
is the sheer number of members selling
coaching in their sig files, who have
absolutely no qualifications at all.
It wouldn't be allowed in any other profession
so it shouldn't be allowed here.

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2 years ago

Originally Posted by lgibbon

What lowers the quality of this forum,
is the sheer number of members selling
coaching in their sig files, who have
absolutely no qualifications at all.
It wouldn't be allowed in any other profession
so it shouldn't be allowed here.

Look,

I'm tired of you trying to attack me all the time.

I sold thousands of this program and I got less than 50 refunds,

You didn't buy it so you know ABSOLUTELY nothing about this program,

You have 6000 posts and you NEVER bring any value on this forum,

People like you should be kick out of this forum so fast their head would spin.

Let's be honest: In this world there are winners and Losers, and unfortunately for you, you didn't win the genetics lottery. I HIGHLY recommend you to quit online marketing (Wait...did you even actually tried...?) instead of thinking that EVERYTHING is a scam.

It's none of our business if you are not successful. Stop being mad, stop being paranoid, and especially, stop making a fool of yourself.

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lgibbon Banned 2 years ago

Originally Posted by MValmont

Look,

I'm tired of you trying to attack me all the time.

Um? I don't remember naming you at all.
But if the cap fits...................

Originally Posted by MValmont

stop making a fool of yourself.

There's only one person making a fool of himself in this thread.
I'll give you a clue. It's not me.

Keep on digging that hole.
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Splatterfox

2 years ago

Originally Posted by Norkali

Anyone have any recommendations for a proven sustainable coaching progam? Something under a grand, but has results within thirty days?
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Originally Posted by talfighel

You want to be careful who you take your advice from. There are many people online who are making less then $100 per month and they "teach" others how to earn "$1,000's of dollars without lifting a finger".

It's the "blind leading the blind"and it gets you NOWHERE.

The thing is too many people have huge misconceptions about coaching. Everytime I hear coaching and training I see the words "guaranteed", "5-figures", "hasslefree", "fast" everywhere. Seriously, its not that a coaching can magically make you successful. If you want a guaranteed successful business, buy one. I see the fault also at many coaches themselves though, since they advertise their coachings in an unrealistic and "hype" way.

I remember a client saying that my eCommerce coaching fee of $97 an hour (so far I had a 100% satisfaction and high retention rate) was too high, since I couldn't guarantee him my own results (six-figure eCommerce sales).

I always try to emphasize the learning aspect. You want to make longterm money? You have to learn something and execute, not just copy a step-by-step method. Businesses don't work that way. You can see it in the current AliExpress dropshipping scene. Everyone is doing it basically exactly the same way, copying gurus and following "methods", yet more than 95% of them are not making anything.

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