Are Internet marketers the hardtest workers?

15 years ago

Don't think so.... sometimes I wonder if it crosses the line into an addiction - but in many ways I feel like a chronic entrepreneur whether it's online with IM related stuff or offline. I have put in MANY long days going from day job(s) to IM and then repeat.....

Of course I'm typing this at 1AM on a Sunday night/Monday morning......

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Jason James

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ajparker

Don't think so.... sometimes I wonder if it crosses the line into an addiction - but in many ways I feel like a chronic entrepreneur whether it's online with IM related stuff or offline. I have put in MANY long days going from day job(s) to IM and then repeat.....

Of course I'm typing this at 1AM on a Sunday night/Monday morning......

You might have a point there on the addiction thing...I might be addicted to it in some way.. many others too.

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SolomonHuey

15 years ago

Can't say I'm the hardest worker you'll ever meet, but I work every day on my business and I've certainly had my fair share of all nighters.

These days though I try to set up my business so the work can ultimately be assigned to someone else while I go out and play.

Solomon Huey

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Jason James

15 years ago

Originally Posted by SolomonHuey

Can't say I'm the hardest worker you'll ever meet, but I work every day on my business and I've certainly had my fair share of all nighters.

These days though I try to set up my business so the work can ultimately be assigned to someone else while I go out and play.

Solomon Huey

It's funny... having been to 30+ seminars and talking to countless marketers.. theres so many marketers out there who talk all about outsourcing, hiring people to work directly for them, and living the 4 hour work week so to speak.. yet I see it all the time these same folks still working till the early morning hours only trying to get ahead even more... its like a vicious cycle.

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Mukul Verma

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason James

It's funny... having been to 30+ seminars and talking to countless marketers.. theres so many marketers out there who talk all about outsourcing, hiring people to work directly for them, and living the 4 hour work week so to speak.. yet I see it all the time these same folks still working till the early morning hours only trying to get ahead even more... its like a vicious cycle.

Its a choice. There are many if they choose to could work the 4 hour work week. But choose to work more. When you reach 6 figures, you can stop there, but you will strive for 7 figures, then 8 and the sky your limit.

I think many of them can, but they enjoy the seminars, late nights and the life style and choose not to, but we had to, we have the option to do it.

Mukul

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SolomonHuey

15 years ago

Originally Posted by SolomonHuey

Can't say I'm the hardest worker you'll ever meet, but I work every day on my business and I've certainly had my fair share of all nighters.

These days though I try to set up my business so the work can ultimately be assigned to someone else while I go out and play.

Solomon Huey

Originally Posted by Jason James

It's funny... having been to 30+ seminars and talking to countless marketers.. theres so many marketers out there who talk all about outsourcing, hiring people to work directly for them, and living the 4 hour work week so to speak.. yet I see it all the time these same folks still working till the early morning hours only trying to get ahead even more... its like a vicious cycle.

Yea I'll admit I used to be the same way and it's a difficult pattern to break.

I used to do everything myself, but now as my business grows, it allows me to be less hands on.

When I realized the guys I've been following created businesses where they have time to play video games almost every day, it's a lot easier to plan ahead and let go of certain tasks.

Solomon Huey

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Mr.Tambourine

15 years ago

Really, if you like your work, it is not hard at all !.. It becomes a pleasure ! I personally burn the midnight oil and I do get very solid returns for my efforts....

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MarkH45

15 years ago

This is one of many small cards that hangs above my desk:

Promise yourself to be so strong that nothing can disturb your peace of mind.

Look at the sunny side of everything and make your optimism come true.

Think only of the best, work only for the best, and expect only the best.

Forget the mistakes of the past and press on to the greater achievements of the future.

Give so much time to the improvement of yourself that you have no time to criticize others.

Live in the faith that the whole world is on your side so long as you are true to the best that is in you.

- Christian D. Larson

I've gone 3 days straight without showers or sleep... I love this stuff...

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Jason James

15 years ago

Originally Posted by MarkH45

This is one of many small cards that hangs above my desk:

Promise yourself to be so strong that nothing can disturb your peace of mind.

Look at the sunny side of everything and make your optimism come true.

Think only of the best, work only for the best, and expect only the best.

Forget the mistakes of the past and press on to the greater achievements of the future.

Give so much time to the improvement of yourself that you have no time to criticize others.

Live in the faith that the whole world is on your side so long as you are true to the best that is in you.

- Christian D. Larson

I've gone 3 days straight without showers or sleep... I love this stuff...

Brilliant Mate.... I love that quote. I hope you are achiving all your gaols

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kf 15 years ago

FYI, the Christian D. Larson quote that Mark mentioned is called the Optimist's Creed. The full text can be found at:

Law of Attraction :: The Secret :: Official Web Site of The Secret Movie

If you watch it through to the end, you'll find the full text, poster format, that you can print out.
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supreme

15 years ago

Internet Marketers are hardworking.. however i think a big part of the system is a do it yourself...

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Derek S

15 years ago

I follow the work once, get paid forever motto.

The most work you will do is starting out in internet marketing. Once you find your way its easy.

So I spend one month to create a product and sales page that in return pays me for years almost on auto pilot.

The more money I make the less I am motivated to work lol.

Now even when I want to launch a new product I nearly outsource the entire project. I strongly believe that if your sales page wont convert with targeted ppc traffic or outsourcing costs more than you will be making... It's not worth your time and move on to something that is.

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sf_Imtiaz

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Derek S

I follow the work once, get paid forever motto.

The most work you will do is starting out in internet marketing. Once you find your way its easy.

So I spend one month to create a product and sales page that in return pays me for years almost on auto pilot.

The more money I make the less I am motivated to work lol.

Now even when I want to launch a new product I nearly outsource the entire project. I strongly believe that if your sales page wont convert with targeted ppc traffic or outsourcing costs more than you will be making... It's not worth your time and move on to something that is.

Everything you said is right on point there. Though Sometimes the reason most people end up overworking themselves is lack of focus due to DIY work style.

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tommen

15 years ago

When you setup a new blog, write content and market to get traffic to it, time just flies.I have done many 16 hour days with my business as well.

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Derek S

15 years ago

hahaha ajparker good point...

It is 3:19 AM here and the only reason i can stay up this late on a Sunday is because I can start "work" when ever I want from my house on Monday...

Only downside sort of is that the internet is on 24/7 so I have to deal with issues that come up and customer service on holidays and weekends.

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MasonRamm

15 years ago

When its something you love doing, these long hours
most of us marketers do online, don't seem to matter much.

I'd rather spend long hours doing what I love then do
long hours in a regular job that I once had and hated.

Just my thoughts

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TheMagicShow

15 years ago

We work hard ,but play harder! this type of lifestyle does require lots of work, the rewards are much greater in my opinion. I rather spend hours and hours, on my own business rather than do it for someone else and make them rich.

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Brad Gosse

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason James

It never ceases to amaze me.... so many of my closest Internet marketeting friends working till 3 a.m. 4 a.m. and even till sunrise working on the IM businesses.... I do it every once in a while too when im really hooked on getting something done.

Is there any other group or entity that works harder than us?

GREAT POST!

I wish the newbies could read this thread and take note. Everyone wants to take a pill that makes them rich. Get to work, then work some more. None of us were successful overnight.

RESPECT THE PROCESS.

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Brad Gosse

15 years ago

My motto is this.

12 hours of internet marketing beats 8 hours unloading trucks.

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Mukul Verma

15 years ago

Most of those IM are not up yet

If you enjoy it, it is not work!!!!!

Just like any other business in the start, you gotta put in more time and work long hours. Once it is set up, I think IM attend more family events, dont miss things because of work, travel more or do things that are important to them.

We work hard, its worth it since we play hard!!!

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kevinfar

15 years ago

Well since we all love what we do, it really can't be seen as 'hard' work. However, I'm getting more and more attracted to all there is about internet marketing and even marketing as a whole subject.

I've even had dreams about how I need to setup my business. seems like I'm thinking too much about it

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affmrktng

15 years ago

It is really hard work mentally when you are first learning. Physically it is not challenging like some jobs. You spend so much time on here learning, then you have to force yourself to get some type of physical activity.

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ConnorMRR

15 years ago

Great post! I reckon most marketers do work really hard, as they say the Internet never sleeps.

I've done my fair share of 18 hour days, the worse I ever did was 9am to 9am! Never again. But I confess I am an addict, my usual "Yeah, getting off now, writing an email" normally turns into another two hours lol, even when I am not online doing something else I am constantly checking my iPhone.

Working online can be hard work, the pressure, the demands to keep your competitors at bay, but I can't really compare it to working 12 hour shifts in a fast food joint!

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Kevin AKA Hubcap 15 years ago

IM doesn't have a monopoly on hard workers. You can find them in almost every industry.

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Jack Chua

15 years ago

I think I have to agree that we are hard workers. I think there those that as hard worker as we are but in a different way. I can attest with having to work till dawn and there are times that I lose track of the time and I get so carried away with what I'm doing.

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sbucciarel

Banned 15 years ago

I worked just as hard when I used to work for companies. Spent many weekends and night to get a proposal out the door or a design project completed on tight deadlines.

There are those who are workaholics and those who are not in just about any career.

Plus I still see quite a few marketers who are chasing that "make money in your sleep" dream.

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mr2monster

15 years ago

This is just my theory, but....

I doubt Internet Marketers are even close to the hardest working people out there in any way shape or form.

If you take a look around the forum, you see so many posts about managing your time it makes you wonder....

Are IMers staying up until all hours of the morning because we have the WORST TIME MANAGEMENT SKILLS on earth?

I think that's a higher probability. haha.

There are no doubt, a few people out there that work their tails off relentlessly, but as an industry, I'd say that we're among the laziest. That's why we're all here... to make as much doing as little as possible. And look how well it works.... :ugh:

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KaylaB

15 years ago

Originally Posted by mr2monster

Are IMers staying up until all hours of the morning because we have the WORST TIME MANAGEMENT SKILLS on earth?

I think that's a higher probability. haha.

I certainly think there is some truth to this. I know my time management skills could use some work.

On the other hand one of the reasons I stay up until 3 or 4 am in the morning is that when I am working on something I get a burst of energy and do not want to stop. It helps that I am naturally a night owl. Working for someone else certainly didn't agree with me!

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mr2monster

15 years ago

Originally Posted by KaylaB

I certainly think there is some truth to this. I know my time management skills could use some work.

On the other hand one of the reasons I stay up until 3 or 4 am in the morning is that when I am working on something I get a burst of energy and do not want to stop. It helps that I am naturally a night owl. Working for someone else certainly didn't agree with me!

Yeah, I'm a night owl as well. I get moving on something and I don't want to stop.

My main problem is that I tend to work like an employee would work, not a business owner. I tend to forget my hourly wage is set by how much screwing off I do.. haha.

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Daniel A

15 years ago

Well, if my income depends on how much effort I put in, I would make sure that I work my a** off and work as hard as I could!

And besides, when you realize that how much you want to achive financially is IN YOUR CONTROL (versus having to exchange a certain amount of hours work for a fixed amount of wages), you wouldn't want to stop until you reach your goal, not even for an occassional leak break!

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FriendlyRob

15 years ago

Surely the most resilient. If I've pulled an all-nighter its because I have to. Sometimes you can't stop until a project is done because it would take longer to try to get started again the next day.

Or its because I promised my subscribers something and I have to make sure that it is there before they start clicking on it.

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jasonl70

15 years ago

IM doesn't require long hours in itself, unless you choose to pursue time intensive models.

I may burn a lot of hours getting a new project off the ground and making money, but after a week or so it's done, and I coast for a few months until I get another idea.

Over the course of this past summer, I honestly spent more time depositing CB checks then I did actually doing any work.

If I was following a more labor intensive model, I'd outsource as soon as possible - I have no desire to be a slave to even my own business

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Derek S 15 years ago

Originally Posted by jasonl70

Over the course of this past summer, I honestly spent more time depositing CB checks then I did actually doing any work.

Set up Direct Deposite LOL...

...You doing more work than you need to traveling to the bank
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Matt Wolfe

15 years ago

Man. I quit my job to have the freedom of working for myself and setting my own hours. I have definitely found that by "setting my own hours", I now work at least double the hours that I used to in my day job. I am often on my computer until 4:00 am sorting things out for launches or organizing mailing list letters, etc. I work so many more hours but I still love it. I wouldn't trade it for my old day job in a million years. I know that eventually I will be able to back off and let it run itself. I'm putting in the hours now so that I won't have to in the future.

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firedragon

15 years ago

I hear all those horrifying messages that when doing IM you are working more for actually less money per hour.

What I try as a beginner in IM I try to find my way to earn good and work less than I do now, but that involves working more in the beginning

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dndoseller

15 years ago

Yes, musicians. Sorry, but we work even harder.

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katiec

15 years ago

I think IM workers are some of the smartest workers ever, hardest? Not really so much.

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Mal Keenan

15 years ago

I work like this too, Jason if I need to get something finished but I also take a lot of time off - probably too much time. The whole point of my business is to buy me free time. If I was working these hours every day I wouldn't see the point.

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Kael41

15 years ago

I think those who have been in IM the longest, and who have developed different processes to delineate tasks are some of the smartest, or most efficient. Not necessarily the hardest workers.

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dean_holland

15 years ago

Hey JJ ...

I'll tell you what I think personally ... I think yes sure we work our asses off and many even do a lot more hours than the standard 9 - 5 job !

..BUT

We enjoy it so much that its not like your sitting doing work.. Well to me anyway

We're geting stuff done that we enjoy doing and making money for it. I guess it may be a thirst for success or thirst for even greater success than what you already have ?

What do you think to that idea bro ?

Good post, love the question !

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Travis72802

15 years ago

I think for me...it's more about LOVE than work.

It's a passion with me...that I never had when I
'worked' for the 'man'.

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pheonix44

15 years ago

I remember when I used to get up at 4am to go to walk to a crappy job that paid me 8.00$ an hour. I have not worked for about 6 months and I would not trade it for the world. I would gladly work 16 hour days doing IM to avoid going through the hell I went through at the factory job I quit. I am greatful for the job I had though, I just could not stay there.

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darrin_cooper

15 years ago

This really depends on what time they actually start?

When you say 3Am to 4am, that doesn't really mean anything, whereas, a person may wake up at 12pm in the afternoon or even start there day at 3pm in the afternoon.

Now, if you said that there daily work day to achieve the results in their business amounts to a minimum of 10 hours per day, where, they wake at 6 AM & work until 3 or 4am, that's a different story.

But, it's not really clear to me & I'm guessing to many who are interested in how many hours are REALLY, TRULY put into their IM business.

From reading about many "typical days", people talk about
3 or 4 hours per day. Those statements, I never agreed with ever & I love to debunk.

But if someone can provide accurate details, can be seen as more of a legit person in my book.

Originally Posted by Jason James

It never ceases to amaze me.... so many of my closest Internet marketeting friends working till 3 a.m. 4 a.m. and even till sunrise working on the IM businesses.... I do it every once in a while too when im really hooked on getting something done.

Is there any other group or entity that works harder than us?

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seobro

15 years ago

People say I am playing on the computer. Actually, you have to stay on top of things so hours go by quickly. The worst part is that it is hard to outsource content creation. Those good at it are already doing it.

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alvinhuang

15 years ago

What work? ; )

It's all fun and games spending time on the IM projects. =)

Alvin Huang

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Toots

15 years ago

It is really important to get that balance but I know what you mean about working into the small hours of the morning. Once you are on a roll with a project you just want to keep working on it.

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jhongren

15 years ago

It is inevitable to have "me" in the business system
when in the actual case, the "me" should be out of the system.

Easier said than to be done....I am still working hard on the latter.

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haxor

15 years ago

Well i will agree that those online works very hard. However it is a different type of work. Those online all know about red blurry eyes in the morning and with the headache.

But i worked in Oil refineries for years and was pulling 112 hours a week. Which is why im here online making money. They work you like a dog and that's exactly how your treated. You are a dog, the bottom of the barrel.

So working for myself in my computer chair all day and all night feeling proud of my work and being successful and you are your own boss. To me thats the life!!

However the online business is just like any other business. You will get what you put into it. You stay up every night writing articles and gathering links to your site It will pay off. You an hour a day. Don't complain because your product isnt being sold.

But i will be successful and i hope all of us will be.
Bring it on!!
Ill never go back!

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hamerz

15 years ago

I recently read that the Internet is one of the greatest distractions at work. Are we really putting 16+ hours into our online businesses. How great would our businesses be if we did and were, in fact, that productive?

How about working hard to keep focused on our online business efforts, working hard to take action on the ideas and plans we make, working hard to build a business that supports the lifestyle we want, and working hard for ourselves and our families and not a jerk boss or unthankful company!

Now that's hard work that is worth it.

Time is unforgiving.

Don't waste your time
Or time will waste you!
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Josef_Benjamin

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason James

It never ceases to amaze me.... so many of my closest Internet marketeting friends working till 3 a.m. 4 a.m. and even till sunrise working on the IM businesses.... I do it every once in a while too when im really hooked on getting something done.

Is there any other group or entity that works harder than us?

I do it not just for the work, but because I love what I do. It's the
challenge I look for that I can't get at a nine to five job.

Doing what I do allows for unlimited potential and allows me to help many
more people at once than just my employer, and the work I do is just
sooo much more rejuvenating.

Like tonight, I won't be working those hours. I like to throw on a
movie after a long day. But sometimes, I will get 10 major goals done
in less than 24 hours if I have to

And boy is it worth it

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Ofthemix

15 years ago

lol My grandmother, whom I live with, told me the other day that I work harder and more hours than anyone she's ever known. I work harder on my own business than I've ever worked at a job, that's for sure. But I think it only makes since to be willing to put in 12 to 14 hour days for your own business that will soley benefit you, rather than wanting to put in that many hours for someone elses business.

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khairulazan

15 years ago

It is not all day we have to work that hard..

maybe when we working on certain project, we have to push ourselves to that level..

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