Giving up before even trying (rant)

Not sure about the people you're coaching, but on the whole I think people buy into the "get rich quick" marketing. They expect to work 3 hours a week and be millionaires by the end of the month. 9 times out of 10, that's what they are sold. So, when reality sets in and they realise it's a job at the end of the day, yes there are perks, but like all jobs, you start at the bottom and work your way up (unless you're lucky of course).

I guess nobody would buy these information products offering ways of making money if they told it how it is.

Perhaps I'm being too "real".

It's often lost on newcomers and people to the market that the reason why the people selling "make money online" products work so little is because they worked so hard in the beginning, and that is a fact that is often totally ignored and over-looked in all the sales-page hype and sales copy.

Lots of people have the entirely wrong set of attitudes to achieve success in this industry.

Lots of people...

- don't want to do any work:

- don't want to do any critical thinking:

- want to be able to simply post an ad somewhere, not have any landing pages, followup, research etc. and still make good money.

Not gana happen.

TL

I really do think it's a mindset issue - especially with the influx of new people trying IM who have previously only worked J.O.B.s. It can be very hard for them to step out of that narrow perspective to really embrace the risks and rewards of going it alone.

Some never do...but others are able to get there. It just takes time to 'rewire' the brain.

And, for some, it's a huge symptom of the get rich quick ads that litter the interwebs. Selling the dream is such an effective marketing tool, but it often sets people up for failure. Then it becomes a 'Which came first? The chicken or the egg?' conversation.

Is it the fault of skanky marketers who mislead their customers in order to make a quick buck? Or is it the fault of over-eager marks just dying to hand over their money for offers that are obviously unrealistic?

Both, I say. P.T. Barnum's quote still applies. "There's a sucker born every minute."

As a coach, perhaps the most effective tool you'll have is to call your mentees on their attitude. Lay it out and make them acknowledge how destructive those thoughts are to future success.

If some of your clients can't get past the mindset, then they likely won't ever succeed. It really does take a change in thinking. The change can be learned, but it might be more of a challenge for some.

Cindy

I completely agree. Too many people seem to just read, read, read and not taking action.

I think one of the problems is that there are many WSOs, sales pages and threads here saying how their author has made $x,xxx with just x hours of work.

Hence people think that this is normal and easy to achieve (read: it's not normal, nor easy - else we'd all be multi-millionaires!)

Plus there's so much amazing free information here, it can really be easy to get distracted and just keep reading.

I guess you just have to take the plunge, stop reading so much and start acting.

I'm not sure what generation you work with but after years of managing our business intern staff I've noticed a disturbing trend in younger people (19-23) in that many of them just have no work ethic. In these days of instant gratification if things aren't fast and easy they don't want to do them.

There are also entitlement issues since mommy and daddy have spent the last 18 years training them that they're the best and should get to do everything they want in life. This means they are less willing to do the grunt work that's involved in learning to be successful.

True story: I had a 19 year old marketing student participating in a (paid no less) internship at my company. The day of a big presentation I asked her to prepare 50 copies of a presentation for me on the copier/binder. She said no. Said it wasn't part of her job description because she was a marketing intern. I told her she had 10 minutes to either pack her desk and leave or to give me an ETA on the copies and that I'd be in my office when she was ready to let me know which she'd chosen. Later that day, after she was done preparing the copies, I explained to her that the CEO of the company and I had been at the office until 3 am the night before editing and copying the final report so that it could be messengered first thing in the morning and that thinking things 'aren't her job' will mean that she won't have much of a career in the long run. Last I heard she was changing jobs every 6-9 months and since the last time she was fired has not been able to find a new one because of her track record and the economy.

Anyway, sorry for the long rant, I kind of got on a soap box there. But yes, I see that a lot. And to you young folks (that makes me feel old!) out there who do work hard, please notice the use of the word 'many' and not 'all' before you yell at me.

Yes, I agree with all the posts above.

Its been my expereince too, everyone is interested in making money
and buy the products that teach them but most don't have the drive,
motivation or persistance to apply what the product they bought teaches.

I guess thats why its said only 5% are successful. If most would only
take action and just give it these money making methods a go, they may
surprise themselves and actually succeed and make money online
find out its not that difficult to make money online.

I think must people think that the internet is a place to get "easy money" or "quick Money" and it's not about that. Everything that counts in life requires hard work, I think that Is why must successfull e-marketers feel so proud about their jobs because it takes hard work to be where they are!

So when people start on this business thinking that they will get easy money quick they will get disapointed quickly also and stop.

Midset!... that is one importan part of this business

I agree with Kevin; No result without good old "sweat and tears" and the right mindset.

On another hand, I'm under impression that a considerably large chink of "Make Money online" type of products go to of all those people still searching for the "holy grail", so I guess the people who have the IM figured out and are serious to act upon it, make money out of the large number of people who haven't...

Cheers
Liz

I spent about 2 months rambling around and reading, then I took action and stopping is not an option because the thought of having to get dressed everyday and go to a "real job" as my friends say, is not the life I want.

Now can someone please tell me how to start a new thread here? lol.

Brad, great post! I agree that sometimes it is laziness or entitlement that make people behave that way -- but there is another reason why people hold back, and that is the fear of making a wrong move.

I was one of those people! For the longest time I just lurked in these forums because I was too afraid that if I tried something I would do it wrong or it wouldn't work out for me, and all my effort would "be for nothing". What I didn't realize was that by taking action I would learn WAY more than years of reading would teach me.

For the past few years I've been taking a lot of action and trying different methods and I've learned so much! Best thing I've learned is that no action is ever wasted. You try it, you either like it or hate it, it either works for you or it doesn't, or you find a way to tweak it so it does work. But not trying at all is certain failure.

I think a lot of people still don't get that - it's not that they're lazy, they just think that if they can read and learn until they know enough to take action, they'll be more likely to get that easy money they keep hearing so much about.

Loved your analogy about people wanting all the lights to be green before taking a road trip - sums it up nicely!

Wendy

Brad,

Just curious, what would you say to those you coach who don't require green lights before they take a road trip, but rather prefer to venture out with map in hand and all light standards marked plainly so they are aware of what lies ahead, and may be in a position to react accordingly in the event that one of those traffic signals should change unexpectedly?

While I could probably be a poster boy for "lazy marketer", it still takes me a lot of effort/critical thinking/analysis to get a new project off the ground and (hopefully)profitable.

It also seems a lot of people just want to build a blog/site, throw some ads up on it, and magicly have it all work w/o actually having to market/sell anything directly.

What's the old saying... "You can $hit in one hand and 'want' in the other and see which one fills up first."

I agree! This is a great post and as a business owner with many employees in the past... i have learned the hard way. Many newcomers or the younger generation simply does not know what hard work is and they expect everything to be handed down to them. It is all about instant gratification with texting and video games. The good news is that they will eventually learn that you will need to put in hard work and dedication in order to make money... its that simple.

It's all about the dedication. You won't find success overnight, unfortunately. At least not always. You must stick to it and keep on going.

Let's face it. 99% of people out there have serious limiting beliefs. They are losers and they don't even deserve to make money online or succeed at anyhing in life if they don't have the b@ll$ and willpower to at least try. Some people are helpless - and investing your effort into trying to help someone that is not REALLY REALLY asking for it - is just plain timewasting and losing energy on idiots. (rant over)

Brad,
Unfortunately I think too many people won't work through the humps when things go wrong, don't want to work or want it all yesterday! I guess this explains why only a reported 5% of people in IM achieve their goals!

Rich

However, there IS something to be said with the ratio of "amount of work to be done" to "return of investment". But rarely does someone in IM get to that epiphany moment of what to do and how to do it given the time/cost expenditures without trudging through the trenches themselves.

I should say that I am the king of lazy. That's why I chose IM so I could sit on my duff all day while my friends did the hard work in construction etc.

See working on my computer never felt like work, when my job was labour related, sometimes they got me to fix the computer/database/settings whatever. I always felt like I was slacking when I did that. Still feels that way.

If I could be a kept man with a super wealthy wife and eat bonbons all day I would be content (for a while) LOL

Edison failed 10,000 times before he invented the electric light. Thank God for his persistence.

I have definitely jumped in not knowing what the heck I'm doing. Also having information overload is so frustrating.

I am hard on myself when I don't "get things". Especially when I think I should know how to do this or that. I have so much to learn! I often feel that I need step-by-step-BY-STEP precise details or I get stuck!

Sand

I just signed up for coaching from you, Brad.

Let me promise you now that you won't hear any of the negative excuses from me.

I'll print out the two quotations above and keep them in mind throughout the process.

...can't wait to get started!

This is one of those subjects that I had a 'whining' post about, god, a year and a half ago almost? I wasn't happy with how my online endeavors were going.

Truth be told, I've spent four years, several thousand dollars, and countless hours studying IM, trying to implement IM, and buy into products that would help me succeed in IM.

My problem, was that I tried too many things at the same time. I overloaded myself from the get go, thinking that I could make thousands by being an affiliate in just a few weeks with no experience, no domains, no hosting, just my own ignorance in the process.

Not to say it couldn't have been done, I'm sure with enough work and effort I still could have started making decent money with nothing.

I didn't know how to do that, nor did I think it could be done at the time.

I know now that I can achieve anything I truly desire, if I work hard enough.

IF anyone works hard enough, they can get what they desire.

Create new squidoo pages, even when you think you can't make another because it will seem 'repetitive'. Find a way to make it the same and unique at the same time.

Bookmark as much as possible. I know how crazy-boring that task can be, especially without any programs to help you with it.

Write articles, as many as you can and as best as you can. If it comes down to it, use what you've written as a guideline for a ghostwriter you can hire.

Work hard on getting those memberships at the CPA, CPC, and other ad websites. If they don't accept you once, ask why they didn't. Learn, fix, and try again later.

You think you can't find a product to create? Bounce ideas off of friends, or ask a friend to help out with one of his products if he or she needs it.

Use social networks if you can. Not everyone likes to, but if you know how and can truly make people ready to hear what you say, that will be a HUGE help to you.

I was told in countless products that you NEED to build a list. Yeah, its true a list would be helpful at all times, but you can't just make a 100-10000 person list in a week. That takes months and months.

Create a blog and update it even if you don't have anything to say pertaining to the subject you created it for! Hell, if you have readers, give them a few posts where they can ask questions, bounce ideas off of you, or even just pose a creative question and hear their opinions.

Just my two cents guys.

But you definitely cannot succeed in this business if you just give up all the time.

I think this quote from the Millionaire Mindset says it all:

"Helen Keller was once asked, "Is there anything worse than being blind?" She
replied, "Yes. The most pathetic person in the world is someone who has sight, but no vision." Ms. Keller was very perceptive. Many people have aspirations and dreams, but prefer to sit and do nothing instead of planning their fulfllment."

If you just sit there and bitch and complain then you're just another person who prefers to sit and do nothing but bitch and moan.

Oh, the book is free by the way, and here's the download link:

http://www.bobproctordownloads.com/M...re-Mindset.pdf

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I am also new but by god i'm gonna make this happen.
Piss poor attitude = Piss poor results.

I am online like many others learning and studying every night. As i work upwards of 10 hours a day in a kitchen I still get excited about what i'm gonna learn that night. I just need to stop dropping by the WF and crack on.
I dream about that first dollar i know it will be the best feeling ever.
looking forward to my happy dance.

90% of wanna-be IMers get amazed by the pro IMers successes and fat checks
9% at least start trying suggested methods but ultimately leave it
1% start,fail,never accept defeat and finally win

Great post. Unfortunitly people hear about those making good money on the internet and now after many years have time on their hands. They want it, but fail to ask how much time, sweat and tears went into it to get the business to where it is now. In life there is always a pay off!!

I was asking my 16 year old cousin (lady) what does she
want to do when she grows up.

She said she wants to be a lady boss so there is no need
for her to work and get her staff to do all the work.

I hinted to her that she may need to train her staff before
she can get them to do the work.

The next instance she told me she doesn't want
to be the lady boss anymore.

Interestingly, when there is a discussion that
actual work has to be done, many young people
shun from it, and still wanting to make it big and
make lots of money within the shortest time.

In today's time when all parents keep on telling
that their kids are the best and no one else is
better than them, I am really worried for the young
people who are coming into the working sector.

John