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organicgirl6

14 years ago

Johnny,
Thanks for posting... I never thought of that. I would love to know what other warriors think about this?

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SurviveUnemployment

14 years ago

I've thought of that too. The other thing about your blog is that you own it. Once you put it on EZA, they own it.

My policy: Put my good stuff on my blog and churn out pure crap for EZA. They're using me. I'm using them. It's fair.

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Allen Graves

14 years ago

Submit to both - yours first.

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dv8 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

Submit to both - yours first.

Seriously. I don't know why everyone keeps debating over this.

Just do them both, your site first.
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SurviveUnemployment

14 years ago

Forgot to say (and can't edit for some reason):

Why use EZA? Sometimes the crap gets picked up by lazy autobloggers, and you end up with a boatload of incoming links overnight.

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acedalright

14 years ago

Here is my secret key.

Submit 1000 word articles to your site and 400 word articles to Eza.

Use 2 decent key words for Eza, use up to and over 10 for yours.

You'll beat Eza with the same article every time and keep over 30 % originality.

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LegitBlogger

14 years ago

This has been flogged so much the last weeks on this
forum. There's even a popular thread specifically about
this -

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

In my experience, EzineArticles is the STRONGER of
the 2. If you want better rankings without too much
backlinking efforts, then you ought to submit to
EzineArticles. But here's what I do - I ensure to
ALSO submit the same article to my site/blog, but
only after changing a FEW things to make it somewhat
unique from that which I submit to EzineArticles.

Heck, if I don't have the time to make changes to
the article, I go ahead and STILL use on my
site/blog without changes. But submitting the
article ALSO to EzineArticles is bound to give me
more traffic than just to my site.

But of course - there are some GOLDEN keywords
that get TON of searches but little competition.
When I find such keywords, I write articles around
them and use ONLY ON MY SITE/BLOG, and NOT
submit to EzineArticles,

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thomashoi

14 years ago

I created a new blog on 1 Sept and wrote about 33
blog posts ... and now have over 200 visitors.

Search engines traffic accounts for 38% of total traffic.

I have not submit any articles to Ezinearticles yet.

All I did was to bookmark every blog post with digg, propeller
and stumble upon and also use onlywire to submit to the
rest of the book marking sites.

Oh yes, after every blog post, i will use pingomatic to inform
all the search engines of my new blog post.

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PatriciaJ

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Traffic-Bug

Since eza wont accept an article that has already been published on your blog, and associatedcontent will. My rule of toe is like this - submit low quality, unique articles to EZA because people are going to copy that article and put it on their own sites (and they may remove the resource box links). Once they click through your resource box url and land on your blog if they see high quality stuff they are going to bookmark and return to your site (and these people are your leads so they are less likely to be interested in copying your article).

Thats wrong. I always add my articles to my own sites or blogs first and then EZA and a few other directories. They have never refused an article from me that's been on my own site or blog first and I just wouldn't give any other site my content first unless I was being paid for it.

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Sorry, not true.

I have articles at EZA ONLY in a health sub niche that get over 1,000 views
a month and have been doing so for years.

If I tried putting them on my PR 0 health site, nada, zip, zilch.

Sorry, not true.

Next.

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Sorry, not true.

I have articles at EZA ONLY in a health sub niche that get over 1,000 views
a month and have been doing so for years.

If I tried putting them on my PR 0 health site, nada, zip, zilch.

Sorry, not true.

Next.

Why don't you try to discuss the topic without your ignorant tone, Steve?...

Your attitude stinks.

Maybe if you had built your "PR 0 health site" instead of EZA's virtual real estate.. you'd be making more money....

Jay

p.s. The tone of your post dictated the tone in my response... think about that.

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

Why don't you try to discuss the topic without your ignorant tone, Steve?...

Your attitude stinks.

Maybe if you had built your "PR 0 health site" instead of EZA's virtual real estate.. you'd be making more money....

Jay

p.s. The tone of your post dictated the tone in my response... think about that.

You can use whatever tone you like with me. Don't care. Don't play
that game anymore.

OP posted an absolute. Absolutes drive me crazy because they're not
always true.

I get just as much traffic for those keywords and articles just posting
to EZA without all the hassle of having to put up my own site and go
through all the work of on page SEO and having to work to get backlinks.

15 minutes work - 1,000 plus views monthly.

Will it work for all keywords?

No,

Will it work for all niches?

No.

All I'm saying is, the OPs claim is not 100% true 100% of the time.

There are no absolutes.

And sorry if that tone does not please you.

I'm not here to please people.

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John Atkins 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

All I'm saying is, the OPs claim is not 100% true 100% of the time.

If someone is interested in quick traffic & short term income,
then EZA is the way to go.

NOTE: Before you get carried away, I'm not saying that EZA
can not be used for long term income. You can, but it's risky
and it gets tedious for most people.

It's risky because you'll be dependant on one website (EZA in
this case)

On the otherhand, having a blog is like being part of a community.
YOUR community.

And it'll be less risky because:

1) You will get traffic from multiple sources if you do it right.
So if one stops, you will always get traffic from other sources.

2) Let's say that you get 75% of your traffic from SEs particularly
google. If google fails (which is very very very unlikely) you will
still get traffic from other SEs.

And don't forget about the returning visitors
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- vizine 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Razer Rage
  
  I agree with Steve. I posted an article to ezinearticles, and it ranked #1 for my choosen keyword without the need to build any backlinks to it.
  
  Question:
  
  Based on your experience, IF you had of first posted the article on your own (low PR) blog a week prior to submitting the identical article to EZA; would Goog still have picked up the EZA-posted article and ranked it on the 1st page? 2nd page? not at all?
  
  What if the article was spun (say, a 20% difference) before you submitted it to EZA ... in your opinion would Goog still have picked up the EZA-posted article and ranked it on the 1st page? 2nd page? not at all?
  
  I guess I am curious to know if there is a balance between the 2 extremes; so that the combined benefit from posting an original article to:
  
  A) your own (low PR) blog first; and later posting the (identical/almost identical) article to EZA;
  
  ...outweighs the benefit of posting an original article:
  
  B) to only your (low PR) blog; OR
  
  C) only to EZA.
  
  Generally speaking, what option would people most recommend? choice A? ... choice B? ... choice C? ...
  
  (... oh, and if choice A, how different or 'spun' does the article have to be before submitting to EZA?)
  
  Thanks for your insights!
  
  Steve
  
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John Atkins

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Sorry, not true.

I have articles at EZA ONLY in a health sub niche that get over 1,000 views
a month and have been doing so for years.

If I tried putting them on my PR 0 health site, nada, zip, zilch.

Sorry, not true.

Next.

Not true you say?

Think again.

Just because you don't know how to do it right, that doesn't
mean that it doesn't work.

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

If I tried putting them on my PR 0 health site, nada, zip, zilch.

Did you work on getting strong backlinks to that blog?
Did you target the right keywords?

Getting good ranking on search engines requires time.

Sure, article marketing may have worked better for you
than SEO.

But that doesn't mean that it's the best method.

So, once again, you can't say "Not true". Say that
phrase to the ones that rank on top of google for
highly competitive keywords.

I've seen ones that have no more than 50 articles
(they rank on top) and they can easily get over 1000
uniques daily from SEs.

And apart from that, they can stop writing new content
for a month or even more and still maintain a good position.

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Craig McPherson 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Sorry, not true.

Next.

Then in your next post

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

There are no absolutes.

Only when you say it perhaps?
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- JayXtreme 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Craig McPherson
  
  Then in your next post
  
  Only when you say it perhaps?
  
  lol...
  
  oooo.. the irony...
  
  Craig, you rock!!
  
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generaleet

14 years ago

Well, some of us like to link directly to an affiliate site from EZA by way of a redirect. So, this doesn't work out for those of us who aren't into niche blogging.

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dorothydot 14 years ago

Thanks for this post. I've been wondering about which to do, and you answered it logically and well.

Perhaps this has been rehashed before, but once a thread leaves the first or second page of this Main Internet Discussion Forum, it's usually not easily found unless you do a specific search.

So I do thank you. And on to my blog they go!

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SurviveUnemployment

14 years ago

Originally Posted by generaleet

Well, some of us like to link directly to an affiliate site from EZA by way of a redirect. So, this doesn't work out for those of us who aren't into niche blogging.

Not for nothin', but on my own blog I can put all the affiliate links I want, anywhere I want throughout my post.

I also find that my blog posts get a HECK of a lot more reads than my EZAs do. This is probably not normal, but that's the way it is for me.

Still, EZA is good for backlinks, especially if a few other sites pick up your stuff and keep the link intact like they're supposed to.

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james kertley 14 years ago

I also like to put an Article or Press Release on my site first then other resources i use.
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LivingCovers

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mr2monster

I never browse past the first 2 pages in this forum.... just about everything is a repost. This place is starting to get to be like an article directory... just a bunch of rehashed info that is all the same stuff.

Well...I must say this. It's really good for some of us who don't have that much time to go thru all the threads in the forum in a day. So if it's being repeated...then all well and good...as long as there are members out there who'll be willing to read them.

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cashcow

14 years ago

Personally, I think people agonize too much over where to post their damn articles and don't spend enough time writing more.

Yeah, sure, it's nice to post them on your blog and have a big ass blog with a ton of posts but what happens when you get caught in some obscure filter and all your pages plummet to the end of the SERPS?

And don't say if you write unique content and do all "white hat" stuff that won't happen, it can happen very easily and I'm sure if you search this forum you will find posts from people who did everything "right" and still got some wierd google penalty.

I think the advantage of the bigger article directories is that they are established and, therefore aren't going to get a big slap. So, if you put your precious articles on there, you are more likely to have long term rankings. Plus, of course, they get the boost from an aged domain and people can pick them up and syndicate them.

That being said, what's wrong with putting them on both?

The thing is that you should be putting them where they are going to make you the most money. Whether that is on your own blog or on an article directory takes testing.

Lee

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nicholaswind 14 years ago

That's great advice.
I have always started with putting posts first on my blog.
I will follow some more of you info.
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dsmpublishing

14 years ago

I often do this and always turn my blog posts into articles. When i post a blog post a week later i will submit it to the major article directories and then to get the backlinks i will use the resource box to post it straight back to the original article. The reason for this is that when people re-use my articles on their own blogs i am thgen getting the blog traffic.

Another great idea is to have articles with ezinearticles.com providing extra traffic to a blog post. so if you write a blog post "top 10 blogging tips" each tip will be a basis for an article.

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katiec

14 years ago

Interesting. I use my blog very often because of the fact that I OWN that material and I'm not giving it up to someone else.

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

@ The OP and all respondants

We had a very lengthy discussion about this very topic, not too long ago. You can find it here:

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

Some fantastic information and strategy is shared in that long ol' thread...

Peace

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AndrewCavanagh 14 years ago

I agree.

My philosophy has always been put the content on MY site first then after Google indexes that content start submitting it to other sites.

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- isler45 14 years ago
  
  If I post articles on my blog and then repost them on article directories a few days later is it better to link them to my home page or link them back to the original article on my blog?
  
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John Atkins

14 years ago

Not to forget...

There are a couple of people here that are saying that this
is a repost.

Our friend Jayxtreme here shared another thread (thanks). If
that was the one that you guys were talking about, then sorry
I didn't know about it, or I simply forgot about it.

I don't live in the warriorforum you know!

NOTE: Posts on forums (especially on a forum of this magnitude)
will always be similar to other posts some way or another.

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apple87jane

14 years ago

No matter how, it's great info that can be take consideration....I'll rather try the method on blog then EZA....Thanks for the info....

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Gama Seva

14 years ago

Post your articles on your blog first then after a week submit them on EZA. Why? Simple, you are trying to rank your own blog/site on SE not EZA, because if you do it the other way mr. Google will tell you, hey dude, your contents aren't orginal! Duplicate duplicate duplicate yara yara yara....

Plus, if your contents is good people just come into your site even if you don't want

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DyLan Lee

14 years ago

Never thought of that before, but I always summit article to my blog 1st even i dont know this concept.

I do it naturally. God Bless me with instinct.

Make your blog famous rather than EZA.

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discrat 14 years ago

Honestly, I couldnt imagine being like a few of the Warriors here we all know about and spend years and years, and hours and hours writing literally thousands of Articles and just giving up ownership of them (for FREE) to some big Article Directory.

To me this is insanity !! And For all you NEWBIES out there PLEASE,PLEASE think about ALL the options you have before going down this path !! Life is too short to do something like this when there are so many better alternatives.

For this particular individual ,I wonder what would have happen if he would have taken those thousands of Articles he had put on an Article Directory and just slapped them on a Authority Blog or Website. And then have done a proper Backlinking Strategy and On page Optimization ?

Could you imagine, the results over time ?? We are talking about income in the range of Filsaime or Kern...It would be the difference between a six digit figure a year income and a upper 6 to lower 7 digit figure a year one. Iam totally serious about that !!

Word to the Newbie : OWN YOUR OWN TRAFFIC AND OWN YOUR OWN NETWORK !! AND THEN WRITE YOUR OWN TICKET !!
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David McKee

14 years ago

EZA is a great way to get initial link love to your site - basically you are using them to leverage your brand new blog. As yo fill it with content you want to start doing that in smaller bites with links back to your blog that say such things as "To learn more, visit my blog here" - and provide a link to your blog, or even to a specific post on your blog (that can get expensive as you have to pay to have more than three resource blocks on EZA).

The idea is to use them to help you sell stuff and get your blog launched.

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14 years ago

This thread clarified many of my misconcepts. Thanks guys.

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TheRichJerksNet

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Traffic-Bug

Since eza wont accept an article that has already been published on your blog, and associatedcontent will. My rule of toe is like this - submit low quality, unique articles to EZA because people are going to copy that article and put it on their own sites (and they may remove the resource box links). Once they click through your resource box url and land on your blog if they see high quality stuff they are going to bookmark and return to your site (and these people are your leads so they are less likely to be interested in copying your article).

You did not read it did you - http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html ???

James

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Craig McPherson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Traffic-Bug

Since eza wont accept an article that has already been published on your blog

Article posted on my site 14th Sep
Make Lots Of Money Online With This Extra Money Making Idea

Word for word article accepted 18th Sep at EZA which links back to my post above

Make Lots of Money Online With This Extra Money Making Idea

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tommen

14 years ago

If you write an article post it on your blog first.Then re-write the article and submit it to EZA.Many people post the exact same article on their blog and EZA.Why?

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Craig McPherson 14 years ago

Originally Posted by tommen

Many people post the exact same article on their blog and EZA.Why?

Hi Tom,

The article at EZA is purely for the backlink.

My website article is currently #1 out of 22,300,000
I only posted it 6 days ago so Google will probably fall out of love with it
and discard it like an oily rag.
I cannot find the EZA article in Google.
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Matt Gannon

14 years ago

If you add it to your own site, it still needs backlinks to get it to the top of G to even do anything worthwhile. I add some to my blog and some to EZA, backlink both, if you do it right and get in the most viewed and published at EZA, you will see loads of traffic.

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David McKee

14 years ago

One thing I am doing now with my blog is looking at every aspect of the links on it, and do those links bring value to me? That might sound a bit self-centered, but what the heck did I spend countless hours creating the blog for, if a person hits the link and "Whoosh" they are off on someone else's site?

Blog-roles belong on general interest sites or political blogs, or if there is a reason you must have them on your blog, put them on a blog page, separate from the main posting page. I am rethinking everything about how I do monetized blogging now - no links that send them away, only links to my products - I am even thinking that affiliate links should not be on the main page. Put affiliate links in "Action Pop-Ups" so if the person is about to leave, you can re-capture some income that way, but don't tempt them to leave from your front page!

I have a ways to go on my own blogs, but if you want to see someone who knows how to do this well, look at Robert Planks blog (Robert Plank). He is a warrior also, and writes some of the bets PHP scripts out there.

Your blog is your store, don't send them out the door!

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