How do you deal with people copying?

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OK, so I am an authority on my subject, my niche. I have years of education, I have hands on experience etc. So when I write content for my websites, I gather information from my unique personal experiences and then cite my sources to further back it up further which are my textbooks and other professional resources I have exclusive access to.

What a coincidence, just a few days or weeks later I find articles on the same exact topics, that use the same exact information and basically re-word my content but WITHOUT citing the sources and referecnes. There are 3 different websites lately doing this me. All my work is basically re-hashed by these unethical thieves and sadly at times they beat me in ranking or stay very closely to my position in Google.

I have been studying more and more SEO to hopefully figure a way to stay alive and not give easy success to other websites stealing my ideas and content, but it's quite a battle also considering that Google doesn't seem to give a ***it about who wrote about the topic first.


Any how, sorry for my rant, but may question is: is there anything I can do?

Sometimes I contact them and ask them if as a courtesy they could at least place a link to my article as a reference and some times some comply, but most of these thieves are all protected by companies that do not provide their contact information and their websites of course have no way to contact them. Finding who hosts them can also be a challenge too!

Google DMCA only seem to do something if the articles are copied word by word. Hosting companies are also of the same belief. It just seems like unless the articles are copied or clearly spun, nobody does anything to protect your creativity, your hard work and research.

So am I destined to become a "source" of credible information, a volcano of ideas for others to just take advantage of? Am I destined to be one to do hard research just for others? I am sick of this, and honestly, it's taking away the whole pleasure of writing and sharing with my fans. I already deactivated some social media because it seems that large percentage of my followers are just waiting for my next article to find a topic to write about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ajmall
    Sounds very sad to hear.The reality is we dont have anything to deal completly with copying contents and stealing others ideas .what we can do is to a certain extent we can avert it.for example google alert,copyscape.googlewebmaster tool DMCA complaints,whoishostingthis.this might help you.i repeat this helps only to a cetain extent.all the best for your next articles
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  • Profile picture of the author Intuz
    Copying content from other resources or competitors is not good practice to do.
    You can check content using copyscape to make sure someone else have copied your content, to prevent your content from being copied you can use DMCA certificate in your website.
    You can complaint the culprit using DMCA request, email for abuse to hosting service providers. Email to the owner of website.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jaysmyne
    Email a DCMA content removal request with the host of the site that is copying you. Email it to the owner as well. That will do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Jaysmyne View Post

      Email a DCMA content removal request with the host of the site that is copying you. Email it to the owner as well. That will do it.
      No it won't. Did you read the OP? There is no DMCA violation.


      As I said in your other thread, there are plenty of great businesses that had their concepts stolen and did just fine.

      McDonald's started fast food. How many other fast food chains do we have today? Yet, McDonald's is going just fine.

      Jane Fonda more or less invented the home workout video. How many followed?

      You can either keep focusing on this and whining about others or figure out how to do what you are doing better.
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  • Profile picture of the author koolphoto
    Sorry for being so mean, but welcome to the internet. Now, get over it, move on, and keep plugging away.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Handy
    I understand how people feel when their content is copied and used by others.I myself would feel very bad if I were to ever find myself in such situation. But I am trying to look at this whole question of copying from another angle: Didn't civilisation prosper, flourished and was transformed into its present state as a result of people copying from one another? I am also thinking about the word "Pioneer"- what does it really mean?
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    • Profile picture of the author rottiegal
      The thing is, yes, copying up to a certain extent can be productive, but there is an ethical way to do this. For instance, when I gather information from a site and it helps me write an article, adding reputable information to it, I place it as a reference and link back to the article as a way to thank the author for sharing his knowledge.
      Not many people seem interested nowadays in doing this sadly. Instead, they want to appear as if they have come up with all the ideas and take full credit for it. Not fair at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raiser45
    I completely understand but this is how it is and there is no way to stop this problem
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    • Profile picture of the author rottiegal
      Well, there is actually a way: awareness. If people are made more aware about copyright infringements, there are chances this will occur less. Many people do not know that paraphrasing without citing the sources is not only a form of plagiarism but also copyright infringement. I worked for several companies providing content and know some writers were fired for infringing the intellectual property of others.
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  • Profile picture of the author shmol
    I understand how you feel, because I have had this happen, multiple times.

    At first it bothered me, but, now, I just blow it off and continue on doing my own thing.

    Hope this Helps
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    • Profile picture of the author rottiegal
      Thanks shmol,
      Many are not aware that it's still copyright infringement when people re-word articles and therefore it's still a form of plagiarism. I just wished that bloggers and article writers were more aware of this and learned how to properly cite references.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrickyDick
    I'd focus on selling your expertise... whether it is a video, audio or PDF....

    One of the most interesting things I read was written by Bob Bly a while back... He wrote that he was posting tons of free information online... and making very few sales on his paid products... Once he switched from free content to mostly paid products, he started making a lot more money.

    In the end, I'd suggest using Jimmy D. Brown's method of giving away "useful but incomplete information" and selling the rest.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
    Just keep providing the valuable content that you have always provided. The copycat can only go so far...
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    • Profile picture of the author aizaku
      Originally Posted by misterkailo View Post

      Just keep providing the valuable content that you have always provided. The copycat can only go so far...
      I completely agree with this..


      it's all you can do.. provide great content.


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  • Profile picture of the author Newd
    You might not like it but that's actually the way business goes online or offline. A hot product comes out in the stores or on some TV informercial, and then you'll see several other companies pop up with their own version of the product with few tweaks added. This has been fair game for years offline. Guess it's no different online.

    Most you can do is file a DMCA take notice or complain to hosting companies if the content is just obviously without a shadow of a doubt a copy. Otherwise, if it's revised to a certain degree, then it's really not much you can do other than maybe using a content protection plugin or some type of shield over your content that makes it had for people to copy it. Also you can add your links throughout the article (also some unlinked and some brand mentions), so that if someone blatantly copies your content, they'll also be promoting your content at the same time! :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author nmwf
    Originally Posted by rottiegal View Post

    Any how, sorry for my rant, but may question is: is there anything I can do? .
    What you're experiencing is bound to increase no thanks to web scraping. With AI and machine learning forging ahead, unethical people validate scraping as part of the "training" process. So if I were you, I'd start looking into ways to block the it. Fortunately, most scrapers are bots, and they can be stopped via .htaccess. Other drastic steps might require firewalling, captcha-ing, and password protecting.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by rottiegal View Post

    OK, so I am an authority on my subject, my niche. I have years of education, I have hands on experience etc. So when I write content for my websites, I gather information from my unique personal experiences and then cite my sources to further back it up further which are my textbooks and other professional resources I have exclusive access to.

    What a coincidence, just a few days or weeks later I find articles on the same exact topics, that use the same exact information and basically re-word my content but WITHOUT citing the sources and referecnes. There are 3 different websites lately doing this me. All my work is basically re-hashed by these unethical thieves and sadly at times they beat me in ranking or stay very closely to my position in Google.

    I have been studying more and more SEO to hopefully figure a way to stay alive and not give easy success to other websites stealing my ideas and content, but it's quite a battle also considering that Google doesn't seem to give a ***it about who wrote about the topic first.


    Any how, sorry for my rant, but may question is: is there anything I can do?

    Sometimes I contact them and ask them if as a courtesy they could at least place a link to my article as a reference and some times some comply, but most of these thieves are all protected by companies that do not provide their contact information and their websites of course have no way to contact them. Finding who hosts them can also be a challenge too!

    Google DMCA only seem to do something if the articles are copied word by word. Hosting companies are also of the same belief. It just seems like unless the articles are copied or clearly spun, nobody does anything to protect your creativity, your hard work and research.

    So am I destined to become a "source" of credible information, a volcano of ideas for others to just take advantage of? Am I destined to be one to do hard research just for others? I am sick of this, and honestly, it's taking away the whole pleasure of writing and sharing with my fans. I already deactivated some social media because it seems that large percentage of my followers are just waiting for my next article to find a topic to write about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Project Sniper
    Originally Posted by rottiegal View Post

    OK, so I am an authority on my subject, my niche. I have years of education, I have hands on experience etc. So when I write content for my websites, I gather information from my unique personal experiences and then cite my sources to further back it up further which are my textbooks and other professional resources I have exclusive access to.

    What a coincidence, just a few days or weeks later I find articles on the same exact topics, that use the same exact information and basically re-word my content but WITHOUT citing the sources and referecnes. There are 3 different websites lately doing this me. All my work is basically re-hashed by these unethical thieves and sadly at times they beat me in ranking or stay very closely to my position in Google.

    I have been studying more and more SEO to hopefully figure a way to stay alive and not give easy success to other websites stealing my ideas and content, but it's quite a battle also considering that Google doesn't seem to give a ***it about who wrote about the topic first.


    Any how, sorry for my rant, but may question is: is there anything I can do?

    Sometimes I contact them and ask them if as a courtesy they could at least place a link to my article as a reference and some times some comply, but most of these thieves are all protected by companies that do not provide their contact information and their websites of course have no way to contact them. Finding who hosts them can also be a challenge too!

    Google DMCA only seem to do something if the articles are copied word by word. Hosting companies are also of the same belief. It just seems like unless the articles are copied or clearly spun, nobody does anything to protect your creativity, your hard work and research.

    So am I destined to become a "source" of credible information, a volcano of ideas for others to just take advantage of? Am I destined to be one to do hard research just for others? I am sick of this, and honestly, it's taking away the whole pleasure of writing and sharing with my fans. I already deactivated some social media because it seems that large percentage of my followers are just waiting for my next article to find a topic to write about.
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    What I would personally do!
    - Bomb them with bad links
    - report them as spam
    - make a page/create a black list that cite's them all as un-credible sources
    - tell all of my visitors not to visit them

    if anything by telling your trusted visitors that these sources are stealing your content and rehashing them..it will solidify rapport with them..stop being passive, just dominate!!
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by Project Sniper View Post

      What I would personally do!
      - Bomb them with bad links
      - report them as spam
      - make a page/create a black list that cite's them all as un-credible sources
      - tell all of my visitors not to visit them

      if anything by telling your trusted visitors that these sources are stealing your content and rehashing them..it will solidify rapport with them..stop being passive, just dominate!!

      1. Ouch!
      2. Oh!
      3. Doh!
      4. Woah!

      None of that does anything except drive traffic to the competition out of curiosity.
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    I don't tend to worry about it so much these days. A couple of years ago somebody cloned my entire forum, but the fools at Google didn't think this was a breach of copyright.

    It's easier if you have an actual service (such as a membership site). So move beyond blogging and into offering useful services, YouTube channels etc. etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Get Mega Rich
    Unfortunately copying is something that is done in every field, from music to programming, to internet marketing. It's important to focus on what value you bring to your web visitors and accumulate a loyal customer base through the attraction of your content that only you can offer rather than focusing on creating content that can easily be copied. Make a brand image that only you can hold up to to succeed. You'll grow rich, don't worry.
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  • Profile picture of the author preciousscic
    I understand your frustration. The same has happened to me and it can be quite disheartening.

    It does bother me from time to time, but then I just focus on doing what I'm doing and making sure I'm doing it better than the copycats.

    I'll still contact them to encourage them to reference the source, but unfortunately, I can't force them.

    You just got to keep doing your thing.

    All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    IMO, it's hard but try to ignore it and just keep pumping out quality content.

    In the past I've seen many people become obsessed with people copying them (sometimes they didn't even copy) and they started to focus so much on that that they stopped putting the time into their own sites and just focused on the others and it slowly pushed them out of business.
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Technically you won't be able to stop people from copying since anyone can copy content over the web.

    I have had many of my articles copied over the years. It just doesn't bother me anymore.

    I guess some things are just out of your control.
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  • Profile picture of the author djayturner85
    Unfortunately, there is not a whole lot else that you can do because they are not actually copying your content word for word. Just try not to let it get to you too much and keep on delivery great content for people.
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  • Profile picture of the author outscrape
    As someone who has done web scraping and talked to web scrapers, blatant content copying of single articles is pretty bold. There are lots of ways to pull content, combine it, edit it, and cite it and still get the linkjuice and the seo boost. But, it takes more time.

    I don't think you'll be able to get it taken down.

    Sorry to hear you've been plagiarized in this way. If it's a regular problem, then it sounds like you will be best to either create a membership site with some info that's public, and some that's private. But this might not work for how you plan to monetize. What's the goal of your site?
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  • Profile picture of the author Vendor-Lock
    It's a really hard ( next to impossible ) thing to stop.
    There is no "one" answer, it really is a case by case problem to deal with.
    There are software applications that make submitting DMCA notices one click.
    That's a help. I use one that is PHP software and submits the link and info,
    notice to right links, very fast, one click. Has a login control panel on my hosting account. I bought it off another warrior here in WSO section.
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  • Profile picture of the author PhilHardaker
    One could take the guerrilla approach. They are probably consuming your feed, not your web page, yes? Disable new articles from your feed for awhile. Or publish bogus stuff in your feed. You can post something bogus, then one day later retract it. Doubt they will pick up on the retraction once they copied the article. You could do things like that and it may annoy them and not consider your stuff reliable anymore
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  • Profile picture of the author profitboss
    I have a wordpress plugin that when they right click they can not copy any content on my site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tesslady
    This is actually a very disappointing situation to be in, but this is how it works now - welcome to the Internet. Just focus on being the authority, buddy. Make sure these "thieves" can't take you down.
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