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i personally know someone who has her own team/staff

she started by herself and now got her own office with 8 people working for her

obviously they know what they are doing basing from the growth of her company in the last 5 years

they offer the following services but not limited to:

web design and development
seo
web design outsourcing (whatever this is)

now my question is, how can i make money using the services she offers?

ive got zero knowledge on how to make money online but i think that knowing her might be a good start for me to monetize and learn the trade along the way.

additional question:

1. can i outsource everything to her?
2. is affiliate marketing the best way to make money online?
3. which/where is the best way to start?

thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author mdallen
    Outsourcing can be expensive. If you have more money than time, you can go this route. There are a lot of ways to do these things yourself. SEO maybe a little harder to learn, but almost every webhost has templates you can use to design your own site. There are lots of directions to go. Some will suggest CPA, dropshipping, affiliate marketing or creating your own product. I would find something you love and do that
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    • Profile picture of the author supafly84
      Originally Posted by mdallen View Post

      Outsourcing can be expensive. If you have more money than time, you can go this route. There are a lot of ways to do these things yourself. SEO maybe a little harder to learn, but almost every webhost has templates you can use to design your own site. There are lots of directions to go. Some will suggest CPA, dropshipping, affiliate marketing or creating your own product. I would find something you love and do that
      thanks for the response

      how did you get started? and what are you doing right now to mmo?

      going back to your reply,

      yep i can do things myself but i have zero experience and i do not know where to start or what i have to do. lol

      i have a full time job as well so working and learning at the same time might be hard

      im just thinking that maybe if i outsource, she can help me out on how to get started but having said that, i do not know what to outsource to monetize with the services she offers
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    I have a feeling if you were to outsource everything to them, you would pay a fortune and likely not end up with the desired results. You would likely still need to provide her the content and overall strategy.

    Why not start to research your own ways to make money online? There are tons of awesome threads with great info on this forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author supafly84
      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      I have a feeling if you were to outsource everything to them, you would pay a fortune and likely not end up with the desired results. You would likely still need to provide her the content and overall strategy.

      Why not start to research your own ways to make money online? There are tons of awesome threads with great info on this forum.

      yep there are tons of awesome threads....info overload so dunno where to start

      and most threads are just selling stuff

      am i right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tesslady
    Hello there,

    What's your business, by the way? It could be that you COULD profit from the services her business offers, but it could also be otherwise. And that depends on the business you are doing.


    Anyway, these are my answers to your questions:

    1. can i outsource everything to her? Yes, but most probably, it's gonna be more costly.
    2. is affiliate marketing the best way to make money online? It could be the best way to make money online, if you know how to do it!
    3. which/where is the best way to start? Identifying what business you are most interested to do in the Internet. It's not just about making money online. It's also about your willingness to persevere and be patient in the business you are doing.

    If you can get back to my question, maybe I can help you more. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author RG16
    First thing to keep in mind is that Earning money is not easy. And there's no hard and fast rule for it. You need to sell your web development talent, and you need to figure out business idea to do so.if you haven't created a single website till date and are still looking for your first client? That's a catchy situation. Nobody is going to trust your talent with ease . I said earlier You got to sell yourself. This is business.

    So, approach anyone for your first job. Your family member, any small business nearby. Anyone. Do the task for them for free. Make 2 or 3 such websites. Give your best to it. then you will be ready for this business .
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    • Profile picture of the author supafly84
      Originally Posted by RG16 View Post

      First thing to keep in mind is that Earning money is not easy. And there's no hard and fast rule for it. You need to sell your web development talent, and you need to figure out business idea to do so.if you haven't created a single website till date and are still looking for your first client? That's a catchy situation. Nobody is going to trust your talent with ease . I said earlier You got to sell yourself. This is business.

      So, approach anyone for your first job. Your family member, any small business nearby. Anyone. Do the task for them for free. Make 2 or 3 such websites. Give your best to it. then you will be ready for this business .

      what? is this just a generic reply?
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    I don't see this working.

    In order to out source the work to her, you will have to sell a company on hiring you to do the work and then outsource it to her. If you don't know anything about what they are doing, how are you going to sell it?

    Also, how are their prices in relationship to where you will get customers? Assuming you can sell it, you would have to sell it at a higher price than you will have to pay to have the work done.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan S
    I think she got everything apart from more clients. You can be a third party driving clients to her and workout how you can profit on top of her charges. You can also become her affiliate and sort out how you'll be compensated in terms of percentage per client. You can start from there until you'll know the drill and how everything works so can also build your own business like her someday.
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    Why don't you talk to that person and begin a relationship?
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    • Profile picture of the author supafly84
      Originally Posted by EPoltrack77 View Post

      Why don't you talk to that person and begin a relationship?
      like what kind of relationship?

      lol

      not the kind of answer i am looking for but it sure made me laugh
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      • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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        Originally Posted by supafly84 View Post

        like what kind of relationship?

        lol

        not the kind of answer i am looking for but it sure made me laugh
        Really? It was the smartest answer you received. Why are you asking us? Ask her!

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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    Can you sell? Make an arrangement with her. I bring in leads, you pay me $x.

    Can't sell? She might want an assistant. Ask her.

    Do not outsource. When you outsource, she's responsible to you; you're responsible to whoever hired you. If she fails, you still need to produce the product/service/result you were hired to produce. Since you do not know to do any of the stuff she does, how are you going to deliver.
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    • Profile picture of the author NicolasDevDes
      Originally Posted by DABK View Post

      Do not outsource. When you outsource, she's responsible to you; you're responsible to whoever hired you. If she fails, you still need to produce the product/service/result you were hired to produce. Since you do not know to do any of the stuff she does, how are you going to deliver.
      This is the reason why most of projects fail. Its difficult to be a middle man without experience
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  • Profile picture of the author supafly84
    thanks for all the replies

    appreciate it

    just wondering if this is possible:

    as ive said, i dont know anything about what she is doing BUT is it possible for me to do what she is doing right now?

    i mean...what if i hire people...have my own team and offer the services that she offers?

    all i need to do is get clients

    is this possible or a total failure?
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by supafly84 View Post

      thanks for all the replies

      appreciate it

      just wondering if this is possible:

      as ive said, i dont know anything about what she is doing BUT is it possible for me to do what she is doing right now?

      i mean...what if i hire people...have my own team and offer the services that she offers?

      all i need to do is get clients

      is this possible or a total failure?
      From both your questions and your response to the answers, it appears you are doomed.

      All you need to do is get clients! Is that all? That's what everyone in IM is trying to do.

      You don't have enough expertise in any area of IM to effectively have an intelligent conversation with a prospective client. I would never let you rep me as you would reflect poorly on me and my business.

      With the growth she has shown, I doubt that you could be of any value to her business.

      Sorry. The truth can be brutal, but if it makes you feel better, I'll be happy to blow smoke at you.

      Your call.

      Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author supafly84
        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        From both your questions and your response to the answers, it appears you are doomed.

        All you need to do is get clients! Is that all? That's what everyone in IM is trying to do.

        You don't have enough expertise in any area of IM to effectively have an intelligent conversation with a prospective client. I would never let you rep me as you would reflect poorly on me and my business.

        With the growth she has shown, I doubt that you could be of any value to her business.

        Sorry. The truth can be brutal, but if it makes you feel better, I'll be happy to blow smoke at you.

        Your call.

        Frank
        lol some people here are just arrogant

        bro, im sure you made it far in the IM world but dont forget where you started from

        instead of giving me advise on the question that i am asking, you are just replying with full arrogance

        far out

        why not put me in the right path on how i can get started instead of replying of full nonsense
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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          Originally Posted by supafly84 View Post

          lol some people here are just arrogant

          bro, im sure you made it far in the IM world but dont forget where you started from

          instead of giving me advise on the question that i am asking, you are just replying with full arrogance

          far out

          why not put me in the right path on how i can get started instead of replying of full nonsense
          OK. I tried telling you the truth. I told you it would be brutal. I'm not one of the morons that will tell you that if you "just believe in yourself and never quit" that you can achieve anything. That bullshit has never helped anyone achieve anything except stroking their own sense of feeling important. Big Frank doesn't play that game. Now we'll just do this your way!

          You are God's gift to the world of IM. You are destined for greatness and know everything you need to know. Everything you touch will turn to gold. Don't listen to anyone. Follow your own path, and most importantly, don't listen to anything Big Frank says. He's just negative and truth be told, a royal douche bag!

          Frank

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        • Profile picture of the author anayb
          Originally Posted by supafly84 View Post

          lol some people here are just arrogant

          bro, im sure you made it far in the IM world but dont forget where you started from

          instead of giving me advise on the question that i am asking, you are just replying with full arrogance

          far out

          why not put me in the right path on how i can get started instead of replying of full nonsense
          Guys like Frank, Al do not worth seconds of your time. Many have stopped bullshitting with them very long; they're the most non-sense group of people you will ever find on the WF.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by 3ym3jtmmk View Post

      You ought to attempt to peruse up on books on subsidiary showcasing on the off chance that you are intrigued.
      Posting nonsense in multiple threads to get your signature link clicked on - won't end well.

      Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    How do you make money of her services.

    Simple, sell them for more than you pay for them.

    al

    p.s. you ought to listen to Frank. You might not like what he has to say but he is always honest

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  • Profile picture of the author supafly84
    alright frank came in here and now the thread is dead

    this thread is better without you bro

    maybe you spoke of the truth but there is no content on what you said

    honestly? what did you tell me to help me out?

    nothing

    far out
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by supafly84 View Post

      alright frank came in here and now the thread is dead

      this thread is better without you bro

      maybe you spoke of the truth but there is no content on what you said

      honestly? what did you tell me to help me out?

      nothing

      far out
      I'm sorry. I tried to be honest in my original post. You simply don't want to hear the truth. You are not equipped to do what you want to do. You bring nothing to the table that will benefit the person you want to rep.

      It's not my job to teach you what you would need to know. That could take a very long time. If you're serious, talk to the woman and ask her if she is willing to help you learn how you might be valuable to her. If you're not willing to do that, you're not serious about wanting to learn.

      End of story. Good night.

      Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    Dude, if you're going to make money with her, you have to talk to her. Talking to her gets a relationship started. If you can show her you can help her in some way, you might be able to convince her to work with you. But you have to drop the attitude.

    You came here asking for advice. You got advice. The way that works, you read it, if you like it, you take it; if you don't like it, you don't take it, but you always say 'thanks' and don't pick fights with the people who gave the advice. (Take that kind of attitude with you when you speak to her, too.)
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    • Profile picture of the author supafly84
      Originally Posted by DABK View Post

      Dude, if you're going to make money with her, you have to talk to her. Talking to her gets a relationship started. If you can show her you can help her in some way, you might be able to convince her to work with you. But you have to drop the attitude.

      You came here asking for advice. You got advice. The way that works, you read it, if you like it, you take it; if you don't like it, you don't take it, but you always say 'thanks' and don't pick fights with the people who gave the advice. (Take that kind of attitude with you when you speak to her, too.)

      i dont have any attitude

      what advice did frank gave me for you to back him up?

      he was like...drop your IM dream...you dont know nothing

      really?
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      • Profile picture of the author anayb
        Originally Posted by supafly84 View Post

        i dont have any attitude

        what advice did frank gave me for you to back him up?

        he was like...drop your IM dream...you dont know nothing

        really?
        Hello there, he's a senior member. At least, he should be treated with some respect. You asked for advice and he gave that, then why bashing? It's your attitude problem that's holding you back, and not your experience, what I believe. Don't come to this forum with that kind of attitude, its not your ballroom.
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        • Profile picture of the author supafly84
          Originally Posted by anayb View Post

          Hello there, he's a senior member. At least, he should be treated with some respect. You asked for advice and he gave that, then why bashing? It's your attitude problem that's holding you back, and not your experience, what I believe. Don't come to this forum with that kind of attitude, its not your ballroom.
          im not bashing

          senior member should be treated with respect if they know how to respect

          im asking and he rudely replied

          he didnt even answer my question

          take a look before you even reply
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        Frank wrote: "Really? It was the smartest answer you received. Why are you asking us? Ask her!"

        The great advice he gave was to ask her, she being the only one who can give you an answer that is not a guess.

        Originally Posted by supafly84 View Post

        i dont have any attitude

        what advice did frank gave me for you to back him up?

        he was like...drop your IM dream...you dont know nothing

        really?
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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          Originally Posted by DABK View Post

          Frank wrote: "Really? It was the smartest answer you received. Why are you asking us? Ask her!"

          The great advice he gave was to ask her, she being the only one who can give you an answer that is not a guess.
          He won't be back. He humiliated himself. lol

          Frank
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    I think you should start to product launch with jvzoo. It is easilly with you
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  • Profile picture of the author farrow26
    Hi,

    The best way to monetize is to outsource all services offered by your friend. Make some attractive banners on services you want to monetize and start posting forums. Get your friend's help for creating banners and answering questions asked by people. Satisfy them with your answers and help them with any small services like fixing a wordpress issue etc.. without any cost and in return get a testimonial or ask them to promote your services etc..

    Hope you got some basic idea.

    Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    I think you must be smart and dont put all your eggs in one basket .Yea affiliate marketing its a serious business but not expect fast results ,you must work and give value to people
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  • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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    It appears that there is nothing that I can say or do that will mollify you, but at the risk of wasting part of my Saturday morning, I will make every attempt to answer all of your questions as nicely and honestly as possible. I'm sure you still won't be happy with anything that I have to say, but at least I will prove my point that it is you and not I with the problem. I will even hold my world famous snark at bay even though it takes a lot of the fun out of it for me.

    Originally Posted by supafly84 View Post

    i personally know someone who has her own team/staff

    she started by herself and now got her own office with 8 people working for her

    obviously they know what they are doing basing from the growth of her company in the last 5 years

    they offer the following services but not limited to:

    web design and development
    seo
    web design outsourcing (whatever this is)

    now my question is, how can i make money using the services she offers?
    Were now back to the question of, "How can anyone but the woman herself, answer this for you?" Think about it. Do any of us know her? Know how she runs her business? Know if she is looking to bring anyone else on? Who on the planet, other than her, can intelligently answer this question? The correct answer is no one and if you couldn't figure that out without me telling you - there is no hope for you. That is NOT snark. Thats a fact.

    ive got zero knowledge on how to make money online but i think that knowing her might be a good start for me to monetize and learn the trade along the way.
    I would first recommend that you work on your punctuation and grammar. You are either uneducated or just plain lazy and neither of those things will help you going forward in life. If you wrote her using this display of communication skills, I wouldn't expect a response to your inquiry.

    additional question:
    The last thing you wrote wasnt a question. It was a declarative statement.

    1. can i outsource everything to her?
    Only she will be able to answer that question. None of us can speak for her.
    2. is affiliate marketing the best way to make money online?
    There is no best way to make money on line. All of us have different interest, skill sets, knowledge and lifestyle considerations. Many people will tell you that affiliate marketing is a good way to start. It may be for some. Its not something that I would ever consider, but I have my own strengths and weaknesses and it would NOT be good for me. Additionally, I have absolutely no interest in it as it doesn't appeal to me on any level. Im not denigrating it, but simply saying for me the answer is, "No." Although many people will tell you that you should just jump right into it, what the hell do they no about you? If your goal is simply to make money, there are hundreds of directions that you could jump in to. Would you succeed? Would you be happy? Would you be wasting valuable time? No one knows. The best way to get an answer to something is to just try it. That said, its the ONLY way to answer your question. Anyone who tells you that affiliate marketing is the best way to make money on line is talking about their life and interest. NOT YOURS!!!

    3. which/where is the best way to start?
    To just start. Many folks will tell you that you should find a mentor. Personally, I think thats ridiculous but many others will consider me ridiculous for saying that. Are you starting to see how this all works? What we think is based on personal preference and has nothing to do with your life. If you are the type of person that cant do anything without following someone else's lead - trust me, there are many people here that are anxious to tell you what to do with your life. It allows them to feel good about themselves. Listen to them if you need to. I cant make that decision for you.

    From what I have read in your post, I don't feel that you have the maturity to work with others and that you are far from discovering your career path. You are more interested in bashing people for giving you answers that you need to hear, rather than want you want to hear.

    Personally, I'm done with you. If I truly believed that you were intelligent, serious, committed and appreciative, I'd attempt to teach you anything you need to know, but I really don't think you have it in you. You come across as an immature crybaby and I doubt that anyone here, unless they themselves are total losers, will devote a minute of their precious time to helping you.

    thank you
    You are most welcome.

    Cheers. - Frank
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