Best Autopilot income system with setup software (now an anti-spam suggestion thread)

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What are the Best Autopilot income system with setup .please suggest one of the best auto pilot system with setup
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Big problem here these days - fake questions by "new" members - being answered with "solutions" that are the website or affiliate link of the person answering.

    My question: If threads like this are 'approved' why bother to have mods vetting threads before they go live????
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    • Profile picture of the author timokeefe
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Big problem here these days - fake questions by "new" members - being answered with "solutions" that are the website or affiliate link of the person answering.

      My question: If threads like this are 'approved' why bother to have mods vetting threads before they go live????
      We're aware of this problem. Right now I don't want to get too harsh on deleting threads and posts, as I'm worried we'll burn too many legitimate users that way. That said, we probably should have deleted this one.

      What I'm thinking of doing is hiring some warriors to write beginners guides that can form either the basis of a wiki or can just be standalone articles. Once we've got decent coverage from those articles/wiki the mods and I can be more confidently aggressive in removing posts that ask really simple questions. It's a lot nicer to reject a post but link to an article than it is to just reject it.

      Do any of you guys have any thoughts on this as a plan?
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      • Profile picture of the author Tesslady
        IMO, doing this would defeat the purpose of WF. I mean, we don't have problems answering simple questions. We have problems answering nonsense questions!

        Just my 2 cents.
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      • Profile picture of the author salegurus
        Originally Posted by timokeefe View Post


        What I'm thinking of doing is hiring some warriors to write beginners guides that can form either the basis of a wiki or can just be standalone articles. Once we've got decent coverage from those articles/wiki the mods and I can be more confidently aggressive in removing posts that ask really simple questions. It's a lot nicer to reject a post but link to an article than it is to just reject it.

        Do any of you guys have any thoughts on this as a plan?
        Thanks for chiming in Tim. This is what we were used to, Mods getting involved.....

        Long standing members have long been chastised for being negative and abrupt but thats only because they care about the forum and can spot infractions where the less experienced cant...

        IMO you should give it a try, if it will help the mods controling this onslaught of ridiculous and out of place questions by deleting more threads why not...
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        • Profile picture of the author timokeefe
          Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

          Long standing members have long been chastised for being negative and abrupt but thats only because they care about the forum and can spot infractions where the less experienced cant...
          I think it's totally fair to be abrupt if you're seeing the same 10 threads every week.

          Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

          IMO you should give it a try, if it will help the mods controling this onslaught of ridiculous and out of place questions by deleting more threads why not...
          My feeling is that a decent wiki/beginners guide would also create a base of assumed knowledge that'd probably help with the variety of what's on the forum. If a total beginner reads through that content and still has a question, then maybe it's a viewpoint none of us had thought of before.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
            Sounds like a good beginning, but...

            Originally Posted by timokeefe View Post

            My feeling is that a decent wiki/beginners guide would also create a base of assumed knowledge that'd probably help with the variety of what's on the forum. If a total beginner reads through that content and still has a question, then maybe it's a viewpoint none of us had thought of before.
            there needs to be some way to assure that a new member actually reads the wiki before they are allowed to post - maybe even a "check box" followed by "I have read and understand..."
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            • Profile picture of the author salegurus
              Originally Posted by timokeefe View Post

              My feeling is that a decent wiki/beginners guide would also create a base of assumed knowledge that'd probably help with the variety of what's on the forum. If a total beginner reads through that content and still has a question, then maybe it's a viewpoint none of us had thought of before.
              Its always a good idea to get a basic understanding first before asking dumb questions...

              That way you can ask targeted questions that will get better answers and may actually help others..

              Originally Posted by Sid Hale View Post

              Sounds like a good beginning, but...

              there needs to be some way to assure that a new member actually reads the wiki before they are allowed to post - maybe even a "check box" followed by "I have read and understand..."
              That would be ideal. At this point I'll back anything that will stop the "what is affiliate marketing" type questions....
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    • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Big problem here these days - fake questions by "new" members - being answered with "solutions" that are the website or affiliate link of the person answering.

      My question: If threads like this are 'approved' why bother to have mods vetting threads before they go live????
      The biggest problem is the amount of people answering them.
      Until people start reporting them to be deleted they will only increase.
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  • Profile picture of the author brutecky
    Originally Posted by soundargod View Post

    What are the Best Autopilot income system with setup .please suggest one of the best auto pilot system with setup
    Its the one that is over the rainbow, next to the pot of gold, you get there by flying on the back of the pink Pegasus. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by brutecky View Post

    Its the one that is over the rainbow, next to the pot of gold, you get there by flying on the back of the pink Pegasus. Good luck!
    You forgot to mention Seamus, the leprechaun guarding the pot of gold. The password is "delusional"...
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    I have just what you're looking for.

    1. You give me money.
    2. I take your money.
    3. I spend your money.
    4. I send you an email detailing what I spent your money and how much joy spending it produced in my lil' ole heart.
    5. Your heart grows as you read my joyous email.
    6. We rinse and repeat.

    PS Asking for the best system is strange... Best how? But doing it without providing any info about you, what you can do, like to do, want to accomplish, have done, have not done... it's just a waste of time.

    PPS You're welcome!

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    What are the Best Autopilot income system with setup .please suggest one of the best auto pilot system with setup
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    Getting worse by the day - in every single way. They don't care.

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    • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
      Originally Posted by rajivr754 View Post

      there is no such thing
      Yep like the 3-4 word spammers like this one
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        Sorry you are wrong. I ma not spammer just giving reply and sharing experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I'm worried we'll burn too many legitimate users that way
    Someone asking a question like this is not legitimate - and won't be in the future. Those newbies pulling up 5 yr old threads to post a one liner - aren't legitimate members. They are looking for places to dump their links.

    The rules for the forum are hidden in the "news" section - we've asked if newbies even see them...no reply. A cliff notes version might be good - but only if you can make them read it and if they are able to understand it.

    Previous suggestions:

    Do not permit signatures immediately for new members. Have a 30-60 day waiting period before someone can add a sig after joining.

    Until recently I was able to track the location of spammers here - and almost every one was posting from a third world country. Charging an annual fee to HAVE a 2 line (same rules - no affiliate or fiverr links) signature would eliminate 90% of the "came here only to link spam" folks.

    Reputable members who promote their products here would pay a $20-60 annual fee to have a signature....spammers wouldn't pay a dime.

    Maybe (if you don't want to delete them) you need a "miscellaneous" section where repetitive and simplistic threads go to die.... Active, working IMers would not bother reading in that section but it would be a great place for all the one line posters to contribute. No one could start a new thread in that 'miscellaneous section' - but it would be a good place for mods to dump some of this stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    I'm no programmer, but I'm sure you can set up something to not allow questions like:
    What is marketing?
    What is internet marketing?
    What is digital marketing?
    What is SEO?

    I've seen threads like that. You don't need a marketing forum to find the answer to those. If you need answers to those, you do not need a marketing forum.

    Also, do you people have a way of tracking if the person that started a thread even came back to see if he/she/it/they got any answers?

    There are so many threads where it does not seem the OP ever came back.

    If you have someone starting threads and not going back to see if there were answers, you got yourself a spammer, no?
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  • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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    There are a lot of things that can be done, but honestly, taking positive steps to improve the user experience don't seem to be at the top of anyone's list.

    All that's required are forum rules that must be read before you are able to register and banning people that don't adhere to them - no warnings - just instant ban hammer. A couple weeks of that and you'll eliminate most of the problems. Oh - and keep a big counter of how many people were banned on the registration page. lol

    Let me run this place for 30 days and this place will win awards. Guaranteed! Of course, I won't be able to put up with any of my own bullshit. lol

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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    Maybe (if you don't want to delete them) you need a "miscellaneous" section where repetitive and simplistic threads go to die.... Active, working IMers would not bother reading in that section but it would be a great place for all the one line posters to contribute. No one could start a new thread in that 'miscellaneous section' - but it would be a good place for mods to dump some of this stuff.
    Maybe something like the Craigslist "ghosting" feature, where the spammer still sees their post but no one else does.
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  • Profile picture of the author timokeefe
    Sorry for all the mixed up quotes in this post, but there's a lot to respond to here.

    Someone asking a question like this is not legitimate - and won't be in the future. Those newbies pulling up 5 yr old threads to post a one liner - aren't legitimate members. They are looking for places to dump their links.
    I 100% agree for this thread, and for most of the resurrected threads, but I really don't want to wholly prevent new users from asking fair questions. Ideally they'd have access to the info they need without pissing off all the regular users by resurrecting threads or posting the same type of thread over and over and over again.

    The rules for the forum are hidden in the "news" section - we've asked if newbies even see them...no reply. A cliff notes version might be good - but only if you can make them read it and if they are able to understand it.
    Once I'm done replying here I'll see if I can clone that thread over to be a sticky on MIMDF. It's obviously not going to fix the problem, but it's a start. I agree that almost no new users would see them where they are (let alone read them).

    Maybe (if you don't want to delete them) you need a "miscellaneous" section where repetitive and simplistic threads go to die.... Active, working IMers would not bother reading in that section but it would be a great place for all the one line posters to contribute. No one could start a new thread in that 'miscellaneous section' - but it would be a good place for mods to dump some of this stuff.
    I really like this idea as an interim solution. We just sticky all the most frequent new user questions with answers in there, then if those questions end up anywhere else we can just delete the thread and direct the newbies over to that forum. Why not allow people to start threads in there though, particularly if we name it something like "Newbie Forum"?

    Reputable members who promote their products here would pay a $20-60 annual fee to have a signature....spammers wouldn't pay a dime.
    I have to admit I haven't thought too much about the link spammers yet, more about the new users asking the same questions all the time. I don't want to charge existing members for sigs like that, as I think there's a nice incentive to post and be active if you are a legitimate user. I'll talk with the team and run some DB queries to see if we can stop the link spammers by stopping them from taking certain actions.

    I'm no programmer, but I'm sure you can set up something to not allow questions like:
    What is marketing?
    What is internet marketing?
    What is digital marketing?
    What is SEO?
    In a previous life I worked on exactly these sorts of problems. Depending on how accurate you want to be, it's actually a lot harder than you'd think. Computers have turned out like their makers - great at math but terrible at language.

    Also, do you people have a way of tracking if the person that started a thread even came back to see if he/she/it/they got any answers?
    Not with 100% accuracy, but broadly speaking yes. Problem is we'd need to know if they were going to come back before they post, which is wayyy harder.

    If you have someone starting threads and not going back to see if there were answers, you got yourself a spammer, no?
    Most of them start one thread then get a new user account

    There are a lot of things that can be done, but honestly, taking positive steps to improve the user experience don't seem to be at the top of anyone's list.
    Right now it's the #1 priority
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      Originally Posted by timokeefe View Post

      Right now it's the #1 priority
      If that's true, you'll contact me. I'll even wave my consulting fees for the cause. :-)

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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      You mean to have a program flag titles that start with What is + noun for moderator review?

      So all threads started by people with less than x posts must be reviewed?

      Originally Posted by timokeefe View Post

      In a previous life I worked on exactly these sorts of problems. Depending on how accurate you want to be, it's actually a lot harder than you'd think. Computers have turned out like their makers - great at math but terrible at language.



      Not with 100% accuracy, but broadly speaking yes. Problem is we'd need to know if they were going to come back before they post, which is wayyy harder.



      Most of them start one thread then get a new user account



      Right now it's the #1 priority
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  • Profile picture of the author timokeefe
    ... and of course right after posting I realised that the all-in-one threads are really close to what I was suggesting with a Wiki. I'll talk to the engineers and see what we can do to make them more prominent for new users.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    tim -

    Recently if you start a thread it has to be 'approved' before it shows up - at least in the Main Forum.

    We've asked what the point is when mods clearly are allowing everything except blatant link spam to show up (and even some of that gets through).

    I don't want to start a 'list' of spam bait threads - but the title below is a perfect example of threads that should never go live. How could a moderator READ this and decide it's a reasonable forum thread?

    "How can I get 10 unique seo 500 words article daily FREE?" (title)

    The thread in its entirety reads:

    "My site and my pocket is starving badly. How can I get 10 unique seo 500 words article daily FREE?"

    "Approving threads" might be a great idea - but only it there are standards to follow and that doesn't seem to be the case.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    "Approved" thread of the day:

    Thread title (new member, of course) is "How to Promote Affiliate Products"... and the POST is TWO WORDS:

    affiliate Products
    If I were running this forum - I'd want to know WHICH moderator approved that thread....and why.

    Of course it's piling up answers - and sig exposure - there is no wrong answer. People can post almost anything in a thread like that...and they do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    24 hrs later and a new 3 word thread:

    Making money

    "how to start"

    Maybe tomorrow we'll require FOUR words to start a thread? Sorry to be snarky but hard to believe this is being allowed day after day.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      24 hrs later and a new 3 word thread:

      Making money

      "how to start"

      Maybe tomorrow we'll require FOUR words to start a thread? Sorry to be snarky but hard to believe this is being allowed day after day.
      They should at least change his user name from Deepak Bag to Douche Bag.

      I reported one today that posted 26 - 2 to 3 word post over 2 days, dredging up 6 month to a year old posts in the process.

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    We are taking a close look at these threads. We took note of your feedback for further improvement of the forum.

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  • Profile picture of the author timokeefe
    We've also just agreed on a change to how we moderate threads.

    Essentially the mods are going to be harsher on new threads, particularly when it's a new user and it's a short spammy post like the ones you've all been linking in here. The recent influx of those spammy threads was my fault, as I'd asked the mods to be more lenient in response to some feedback that we were harshly deleting some posts. We've worked on the guidelines some more and I think we've hit a better point with them.

    That said, I think we'll need to iterate on this process over the coming weeks, so please continue to send me anything that you think shouldn't be allowed or that you think got deleted unfairly. The more of them I get, the faster we'll be able to iterate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I reported one today that posted 26 - 2 to 3 word post over 2 days, dredging up 6 month to a year old posts in the process.
    I keep asking - how is it WE notice these posts when we log in - and mods don't see them at all?

    I'd asked the mods to be more lenient in response to some feedback
    The "too harsh" feedback usually comes from those trying to "leverage" threads/posts. Also from a few who want to monetize the newbie traffic here.

    But - seems to me that's been part of the problem for months. Mods are told to "tighten up" and they do - they go too far and then are told to "take it easy" and the spam starts showing up all over.

    To me - you need clear moderator RULES - train mods on those rules - and let them do the job as much as possible. We used to have a rule against "posting multiple one liners" - but that rule is gone. Moderators at the time were free to leave a one-line post in place or remove the posts/ban the user if they saw abuse.

    I think the moderators here are smart and willing to keep this forum clean but I'm not convinced they are allowed/trusted to do the job. Perhaps it's training - or maybe micromanaging.

    Mods now seem to be reacting to instructions from mgmt - and those instructions change frequently. So one week relevant comments are deleted - anything that disagrees with a "system" posted is deleted - the next week spam is allowed remain complete with links and promos. Consistency in moderation is missing here.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I keep asking - how is it WE notice these posts when we log in - and mods don't see them at all?
      I stay logged in. I notice them because I hunt them down like a rat-terrier! :-)

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    • Profile picture of the author timokeefe
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I keep asking - how is it WE notice these posts when we log in - and mods don't see them at all?
      This is something we're working on at the moment. vBulletin has a moderation queue for new threads, but not really for new posts, so if a spammer posts on existing threads it's harder to stop. The existing way to deal with this is when you guys report things, but we're working on fixing this, both by removing the incentive (i.e. making link spam not work) and by giving the mods better tools (e.g. so they can easily see recent posts and post spikes).

      Originally Posted by Kay King;

      I think the moderators here are smart and willing to keep this forum clean but I'm not convinced they are allowed/trusted to do the job. Perhaps it's training - or maybe micromanaging.
      They're definitely smart and willing, and the rule changes haven't been helping. Right now we're building up a list of hard moderation cases, cases where the mods disagree with the guidelines, and anything else weird so that we can all agree on a clear set of guidelines with plenty of examples.
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      • Profile picture of the author ChristoFouche
        Thanks for all you hard work in keeping the spammers out and to build a great community. We appreciate it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChristoFouche
    Hi Soundargod

    As you can see from the ton of deleted replies in this thread, most people are just interested in pushing their own agenda.

    I think one of the best solutions to building an autopilot system is providing lots of value to your list and to your followers whether it is Social Media or your Blog.

    I get about 2500 new Twitter followers every day, send them to a capture page, add them to my list and then send them to a offer on my thank you page. This way my list grows daily and I make money from adding value to the list.

    This is all on autopilot with no system.

    It works perfect for me.
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