Best Autopilot income system with setup software (now an anti-spam suggestion thread)

When you find it let us know because you are hunting for the purple unicorn......

Big problem here these days - fake questions by "new" members - being answered with "solutions" that are the website or affiliate link of the person answering.

My question: If threads like this are 'approved' why bother to have mods vetting threads before they go live????

Its the one that is over the rainbow, next to the pot of gold, you get there by flying on the back of the pink Pegasus. Good luck!

You forgot to mention Seamus, the leprechaun guarding the pot of gold. The password is "delusional"...

I have just what you're looking for.

1. You give me money.
2. I take your money.
3. I spend your money.
4. I send you an email detailing what I spent your money and how much joy spending it produced in my lil' ole heart.
5. Your heart grows as you read my joyous email.
6. We rinse and repeat.

PS Asking for the best system is strange... Best how? But doing it without providing any info about you, what you can do, like to do, want to accomplish, have done, have not done... it's just a waste of time.

PPS You're welcome!

Getting worse by the day - in every single way. They don't care.

Frank

Someone asking a question like this is not legitimate - and won't be in the future. Those newbies pulling up 5 yr old threads to post a one liner - aren't legitimate members. They are looking for places to dump their links.

The rules for the forum are hidden in the "news" section - we've asked if newbies even see them...no reply. A cliff notes version might be good - but only if you can make them read it and if they are able to understand it.

Previous suggestions:

Do not permit signatures immediately for new members. Have a 30-60 day waiting period before someone can add a sig after joining.

Until recently I was able to track the location of spammers here - and almost every one was posting from a third world country. Charging an annual fee to HAVE a 2 line (same rules - no affiliate or fiverr links) signature would eliminate 90% of the "came here only to link spam" folks.

Reputable members who promote their products here would pay a $20-60 annual fee to have a signature....spammers wouldn't pay a dime.

Maybe (if you don't want to delete them) you need a "miscellaneous" section where repetitive and simplistic threads go to die.... Active, working IMers would not bother reading in that section but it would be a great place for all the one line posters to contribute. No one could start a new thread in that 'miscellaneous section' - but it would be a good place for mods to dump some of this stuff.

I'm no programmer, but I'm sure you can set up something to not allow questions like:
What is marketing?
What is internet marketing?
What is digital marketing?
What is SEO?

I've seen threads like that. You don't need a marketing forum to find the answer to those. If you need answers to those, you do not need a marketing forum.

Also, do you people have a way of tracking if the person that started a thread even came back to see if he/she/it/they got any answers?

There are so many threads where it does not seem the OP ever came back.

If you have someone starting threads and not going back to see if there were answers, you got yourself a spammer, no?

There are a lot of things that can be done, but honestly, taking positive steps to improve the user experience don't seem to be at the top of anyone's list.

All that's required are forum rules that must be read before you are able to register and banning people that don't adhere to them - no warnings - just instant ban hammer. A couple weeks of that and you'll eliminate most of the problems. Oh - and keep a big counter of how many people were banned on the registration page. lol

Let me run this place for 30 days and this place will win awards. Guaranteed! Of course, I won't be able to put up with any of my own bullshit. lol

Frank

Maybe something like the Craigslist "ghosting" feature, where the spammer still sees their post but no one else does.

Sorry for all the mixed up quotes in this post, but there's a lot to respond to here.

I 100% agree for this thread, and for most of the resurrected threads, but I really don't want to wholly prevent new users from asking fair questions. Ideally they'd have access to the info they need without pissing off all the regular users by resurrecting threads or posting the same type of thread over and over and over again.

Once I'm done replying here I'll see if I can clone that thread over to be a sticky on MIMDF. It's obviously not going to fix the problem, but it's a start. I agree that almost no new users would see them where they are (let alone read them).

I really like this idea as an interim solution. We just sticky all the most frequent new user questions with answers in there, then if those questions end up anywhere else we can just delete the thread and direct the newbies over to that forum. Why not allow people to start threads in there though, particularly if we name it something like "Newbie Forum"?

I have to admit I haven't thought too much about the link spammers yet, more about the new users asking the same questions all the time. I don't want to charge existing members for sigs like that, as I think there's a nice incentive to post and be active if you are a legitimate user. I'll talk with the team and run some DB queries to see if we can stop the link spammers by stopping them from taking certain actions.

In a previous life I worked on exactly these sorts of problems. Depending on how accurate you want to be, it's actually a lot harder than you'd think. Computers have turned out like their makers - great at math but terrible at language.

Not with 100% accuracy, but broadly speaking yes. Problem is we'd need to know if they were going to come back before they post, which is wayyy harder.

Most of them start one thread then get a new user account

Right now it's the #1 priority

... and of course right after posting I realised that the all-in-one threads are really close to what I was suggesting with a Wiki. I'll talk to the engineers and see what we can do to make them more prominent for new users.

tim -

Recently if you start a thread it has to be 'approved' before it shows up - at least in the Main Forum.

We've asked what the point is when mods clearly are allowing everything except blatant link spam to show up (and even some of that gets through).

I don't want to start a 'list' of spam bait threads - but the title below is a perfect example of threads that should never go live. How could a moderator READ this and decide it's a reasonable forum thread?

"How can I get 10 unique seo 500 words article daily FREE?" (title)

The thread in its entirety reads:

"My site and my pocket is starving badly. How can I get 10 unique seo 500 words article daily FREE?"

"Approving threads" might be a great idea - but only it there are standards to follow and that doesn't seem to be the case.

"Approved" thread of the day:

Thread title (new member, of course) is "How to Promote Affiliate Products"... and the POST is TWO WORDS:

If I were running this forum - I'd want to know WHICH moderator approved that thread....and why.

Of course it's piling up answers - and sig exposure - there is no wrong answer. People can post almost anything in a thread like that...and they do.

24 hrs later and a new 3 word thread:

Making money

"how to start"

Maybe tomorrow we'll require FOUR words to start a thread? Sorry to be snarky but hard to believe this is being allowed day after day.

Hello everyone.

Thank you for your feedback.

We are taking a close look at these threads. We took note of your feedback for further improvement of the forum.

Thank you.

We've also just agreed on a change to how we moderate threads.

Essentially the mods are going to be harsher on new threads, particularly when it's a new user and it's a short spammy post like the ones you've all been linking in here. The recent influx of those spammy threads was my fault, as I'd asked the mods to be more lenient in response to some feedback that we were harshly deleting some posts. We've worked on the guidelines some more and I think we've hit a better point with them.

That said, I think we'll need to iterate on this process over the coming weeks, so please continue to send me anything that you think shouldn't be allowed or that you think got deleted unfairly. The more of them I get, the faster we'll be able to iterate.

I keep asking - how is it WE notice these posts when we log in - and mods don't see them at all?

The "too harsh" feedback usually comes from those trying to "leverage" threads/posts. Also from a few who want to monetize the newbie traffic here.

But - seems to me that's been part of the problem for months. Mods are told to "tighten up" and they do - they go too far and then are told to "take it easy" and the spam starts showing up all over.

To me - you need clear moderator RULES - train mods on those rules - and let them do the job as much as possible. We used to have a rule against "posting multiple one liners" - but that rule is gone. Moderators at the time were free to leave a one-line post in place or remove the posts/ban the user if they saw abuse.

I think the moderators here are smart and willing to keep this forum clean but I'm not convinced they are allowed/trusted to do the job. Perhaps it's training - or maybe micromanaging.

Mods now seem to be reacting to instructions from mgmt - and those instructions change frequently. So one week relevant comments are deleted - anything that disagrees with a "system" posted is deleted - the next week spam is allowed remain complete with links and promos. Consistency in moderation is missing here.

Hi Soundargod

As you can see from the ton of deleted replies in this thread, most people are just interested in pushing their own agenda.

I think one of the best solutions to building an autopilot system is providing lots of value to your list and to your followers whether it is Social Media or your Blog.

I get about 2500 new Twitter followers every day, send them to a capture page, add them to my list and then send them to a offer on my thank you page. This way my list grows daily and I make money from adding value to the list.

This is all on autopilot with no system.

It works perfect for me.