Lessons Learned the First Time Around

by frankm
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Hi Warriors

Frank Mullen from Ireland here, it's been a long time!

In 2004-05 I had minor success in the IM niche with the 'Niche Database'. I was highly regarded but overall my first Internet venture ended up costing me about $130,000. I think the Niche Database took in $60-70k, and the rest was blown on software, marketing information, consulting and the development of quite a few products that were never brought to market. It's amazing how quick you can melt through the cash in this game!

After some run-ins with my bank manager (I was borrowing money against the mortgages of some properties I owned in Ireland) I had something close to a nervous breakdown and left the Internet Marketing game to go and sort my life out. I had to sell some property to pay my debts - I had inherited money after my father died when I was 13, I'm now 33.

I've decided to chronicle my journey here as a way of reminding myself what I did wrong. I'll be returning to IM next year in a completely different niche, and this is as much to remind me of my mistakes as to help anyone else getting involved in IM.

I first heard of IM in 2003 when I was an accountant, and was looking for a way of starting my own business. I found the late Corey Rudl's course and bought that, and was immediately fascinated by the concept of 'making money by teaching others how to make money'. Corey did mention his 'Car Secrets' product but there was no niche that I was interested in that I could profit from. But I did know that I was intelligent enough to be some kind of marketing guru and I think my ego had its sights set on that from day 1.

But regardless, I did set out to find a niche. The first one I thought about was to sell a course of Camtasia videos teaching people to use Microsoft Excel. But the market seemed limited - the only people who needed to use Excel well would be those using it in jobs, and they would be trained on it as part of their jobs. So I discarded that idea.

Then I decided to create a 'monster ebook package', which was one of the crazes at the time. I collected every free ebook I could find and bought loads of products with resale rights, but they never made it further than my hard drive.

In the meantime, the spending spree continued. I bought Marlon Sanders Cash Like Clockwork System and Mark Joyner's Farewell Package. I then bought Mark's Farewell Package again because there was an offer of half an hour's consulting to shift the remaining units. I didn't get to talk to Mark at the time though because already the strain of striving to be a guru was beginning to show and I broke up with my girlfriend and decided to go to Australia (we subsequently got back together and she came to Australia with me - business building was put on hold while we travelled for a few months).

In Australia the spending started again. I joined Jay Abraham, Stephen Pierce and Rich Schefren's coaching program, despite not yet having a product. That was when I realised once again that I had to find my niche. But I kept getting distracted and buying more products. It was the early days of Traffic Equalizer and I decided I was going to make a fortune with Adsense. But to this day I have still never uploaded a site with Adsense on it!

Finally I hit the jackpot. I had the idea that to find the best niche idea possible I would have to go through them all. So I bought a subscription to Wordtracker and bought myself a small dictionary. I wrote down every word from the dictionary that could have money making potential and started putting those words into Wordtracker. The result was a database of 15,000+ keywords. Instead of exploiting the keywords myself, I decided to let others do the work, so I compiled the results into a piece of software, and added some keyword research functions, ending up with the Niche Database.

My biggest mistake was early on. It was when I was in between my first and second versions and Frank Kern emailed me asking could he promote the software. It was when he was doing the Underachiever stuff. I told him the better version would be ready in a couple of weeks and I'd get back to him then. He didn't reply to me after that - I'd missed the boat.

Another mistake was committing to monthly updates of the software. I got to involved in looking for further ideas and ended up letting down my customers. At first it was fine, but then I got lazy and the updates started happening every two months, and then three.
And because the software part of it scraped Google for the ad numbers, that kept breaking whenever Google updated its pages.

I also never proved the value of the keywords, by not creating a single niche site. I did plan on entering the speeches niche and even spent a lot of money having 300 speeches written, but I never got around to selling them.

I bought so much marketing information - my inbox overflowed with emails from all the lists I was subscribed to and I was hooked in my so many offers. And I never used any of the products I bought. I also went to 5 seminars in a year and never applied any of the information. I was always looking for the next big thing, always looking to the next big guru.

I ended up having the great pleasure of consulting with Mark Joyner for a few months. But again, it was tens of thousands of dollars for information I never used.

The biggest A-Ha moment was when I read the book by Al and Laura Ries "The Origin of Brands". It explained how business products evolve in the same why as species of life evolve. For example, the mainframe computer evolved into the laptop computer and the desktop computer - these are the equivalent of the branches in the 'tree of life'. The next branch off the laptop branch are the netbooks. Business will continue to evolve, and according to the Rieses, the key to huge success is to creat the next branch instead of copying what has gone before you. Yes, it is a much more difficult process, but you will be first into the product category and will automatically be the dominant brand in that category.

Rich Schefren talks about this in one of his free reports. And he has applied it too. There was already a branch of 'Gurus' in the Internet Marketing Tree of Business, and he has created a new branch called 'Guru to the Gurus'. So if you can discover something remarkable and teach it to Rich Schefren, you could then brand yourself as 'Guru to the Guru of the Gurus'!

Another good example of this are Jay Abraham and Dan Kennedy. Dan came after Jay and wanted to brand himself differently. He created his own branch on the tree by calling himself the 'No BS Guy'. Genius :-)

Al Ries and Jack Trout have another book, I think called "Positioning, the Battle for your Mind" - we can see that the above are good examples of this.

At the beginning of "The Origin of Brands", Al Ries wrote that in 30 years of writing about branding, it is only now, by applying the framework of the theory of evolution that he feels that he understands branding fully.

For example, new species arise through mutation. A new characteristic creates a new species and gives it a survival advantage. My Niche Database was a mutation on previous keyword stuff (eg Strike it Niche) in that it was a much bigger database, and was also a mutation on Adword Analyzer in that it had the functionality of AA but also had the keyword data. But therein lay one of my mistakes... if I had specialized solely in the huge database of keywords I would probably been much more successful. The keyword stuff was my competitive advantage but I got bogged down in creating the software and was eventually blown out of the water by the Dowser Niche Database.

Towards the end of the Niche Database Jim Fleck contacted me, interested in buying it off me. I can't remember why I didn't bite his hand off, instead I gradually just stopped selling it and even let the domain expire.. it's now redirecting to some free IM listbuilding stuff.

So think about how you can create mutations on existing product categories so that you can be the first brand in a whole new category. New possibilities emerge all the time, eg all the businesses piggybacking on the success of Twitter.

After leaving IM I went off and studied Yoga and the Eastern Philosophies. All the study of evolution had left me dead inside and the belief that I was nothing more than a pile of dust was very soul-destroying. The Eastern Philosophies opened my mind to a whole new way of looking at life.

I've applied the mutation stuff by finding a chink in what the physical Yoga (Hatha Yoga) teaches, and I am specialising entirely in that now and should have a good 'mutant' product ready sometime next year. By the time my research is completely I won't be that far from Malcolm Gladwell's magic 10,000 hours number, so to summarise I guess I'd say that the key to massive success is to find something that needs to be improved, and drill down into that until you have mastered it.

10,000 hours is 3 hours a day for 10 years, or 10 hours a day for 3 years!!

Best wishes

Frank
#learned #lessons #time
  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    Great story. Keep up the good fight.

    Second time (and third and fourth time) around is always easier.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Hi Frank I was totally absorbed in your story.

    One thing that struck me was that you did what just about all of us do, you went after the next shiny object that dangled in front of your face, and you didn't do anything with it because the next one came along. (I've definitely been there).

    Thing is, you've identified where you went wrong and it sounds as though you're ready this time to appreciate your own weaknesses and strengths

    I wish you every success (and I'm sure it will come)

    Kim
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    • Profile picture of the author frankm
      Thanks guys :-)

      Yes Kim, it was 'next shiny object' syndrome. Like for example signing up for Jeff Johnsons Super Affiliate software when I wasn't even an affiliate, or Stompernet, the list goes on!

      More money than sense at the time, but thankfully my bank manager won't be lending me money again, and my credit card limit was slashed, so next time around there will be a focus on growing revenues from the beginning.

      Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
        I'm ashamed to admit that I signed up for Stompernet and hardly ever visited the site. It was something I always meant to do and was a member for several months before I saw the light and cancelled lol

        Originally Posted by frankm View Post

        Thanks guys :-)

        Yes Kim, it was 'next shiny object' syndrome. Like for example signing up for Jeff Johnsons Super Affiliate software when I wasn't even an affiliate, or Stompernet, the list goes on!

        More money than sense at the time, but thankfully my bank manager won't be lending me money again, and my credit card limit was slashed, so next time around there will be a focus on growing revenues from the beginning.

        Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author patfl
    What a great story Frank, a million thanks for sharing such an experience and insights.

    Is it possible that the evolution concept, which is a powerful one in internet marketing, didn't work out well for you because it was against your values and beliefs? Would that explain why, even in front of potential huge opportunities, you didn't continue and let things die?

    A lot of precious lessons in this post, thanks again!

    Patrice
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    • Profile picture of the author frankm
      Originally Posted by Patrice Le Vexier View Post

      What a great story Frank, a million thanks for sharing such an experience and insights.

      Is it possible that the evolution concept, which is a powerful one in internet marketing, didn't work out well for you because it was against your values and beliefs? Would that explain why, even in front of potential huge opportunities, you didn't continue and let things die?

      A lot of precious lessons in this post, thanks again!

      Patrice
      Hi Patrice

      You're welcome :-)

      Before starting Internet Marketing, I knew nothing about the world. Even though I was already financially independent all I wanted to do was make loads of money. And because I had some capital starting off, I thought I could take a massive short cut to the top by buying all the gurus' information products and then I would have such a good wealth of knowledge that I could just start teaching.

      But it didn't work out that way, every time I started with something I got sidetracked with the next big thing. I had so many half completed products, but all of them were based on the incongruency that I was trying to teach before I had mastered something myself. So it was easy to move on when it didn't feel right.

      Then I read The Origin of Brands and suddenly everything made sense to me. I could see how business had developed from what Mark Joyner described as the very first business transaction - a barter between two caveman swapping a club for a woolly mammoth pelt, right up through the dark ages, through the Industrial Revolution, and up to the first 10 years of the Information Age.

      I decided to try and fully understand the concept of evolution and to see exactly how it applied to Internet Marketing, and I spent a huge amount of time researching all the different niches, in particular looking for websites the gurus were using under pseudonyms. My best method of research in this regard was inputting standard headlines and phrases used in sales letters, and I found plenty of interesting stuff.

      But the more I read about evolution, the more I wanted to understand the world. I instantly saw how religion was one of the best examples of viral marketing and I read a lot of stuff about how 'memes' spread. By that point I was more interested in reading books about physics than creating any sort of product. And when I did try to write anything about business, it seemed that my ideas were getting further away from anything to do with reality, and so I parked everything.

      I remember crying in frustration on my 30th birthday, feeling dead inside and wondering what the point was. I had come to the conclusion that the only purpose to life was to get married and have kids, and that led to a lot of research into the stuff written by the 'seduction gurus' (another crazy industry!!). And I even invested in Neil Strauss's $4k 'Annihilation Method' product, completely won over by Frank Kern's brilliant campaign for it. I did see sense and sent it back for a refund as that was when I had my problems with the bank manager. She said to me 'no more lifestyle loans'!

      But gradually, something magic started happening. I noticed regularly that if I went to bed with a certain question on my mind, the next day I would read an article in a newspaper or see a documentary on TV that exactly answered my question.

      Then another day I was walking around a house that my Mum had rented by the sea in Ireland, asking myself 'Who Am I?' I saw a bookshelf and a book jumped out at me. 'The Celestine Prophecy'. Celestine was my late father's middle name, and when I opened the book the first thing I read was something like 'Isn't it strange in life how when you most need inspiration a strange coincidence happens to set you on the right path'. Wow, that really hit me hard.

      And when I decided I wanted to go and do yoga to restore my health and sanity - I had an Internet window open looking for 'chakras' and on the next screen I looked for 'Yoga Thailand'. The first result I found on 'Yoga Thailand' was chakrayoga.com, and there was a 12 week training course starting in 6 weeks. When I emailed there was one place left, and I grabbed it. Synchronicities like this kept on happening.

      So this all restored my faith in the universe - that there was something deeper going on, and a lot of stuff on the yoga course was about things like manifestation, like discussed in the Secret. Basically that we are all spiritual beings and that everything unfolds exactly the way it is meant to.

      So now I realise that my ego was completely in control in my IM days and that all it wanted was the adulation of becoming an IM guru. Now I'm more open to sitting back and accepting that I have a purpose in life and that it will gradually be shown to me, but only as I become ready.

      I'm sure a lot of people here will identify with how I have spent a huge amount of time stressing about business success. While it's great to have big plans, I now almost regard that every moment I have spent thinking about or wanting success has been a wasted moment. Peace of mind has only come through letting go of all the desires and appreciating life as it is.

      Cheers

      Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author patfl
    Frank,

    I think we can see in your story one of the main reason why most of the people can't achieve success (whatever it is):

    They fight the wrong battle. In your case, it was to become guru for the "adulation" and not to bring something new to the game based on your unique experience and skill set.

    That's the good old "know yourself" problem that your story illustrates perfectly.

    But now man, you went a long way and along the road you became a real guru in my view, who is someone who knows himself, someone who knows where he is heading and decided to help people find their own way.

    At your age (30-ish), and even if, as you said, you're at the beginning of the road, it's an impressive achievement if you ask me. Most of the people never reach that point in their lifetime.

    Patrice
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    Understanding yourself is huge Frank. Leaving financial success completely out of the equasion, that is key to advancing spiritually in any capacity.
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  • Profile picture of the author frankm
    Thanks for the feedback guys, it's genuinely great to be back here.

    Just after writing my last post I wondered if I still had all my old digital IM stuff. It was on a computer that I gave to a friend in 2006. I rang him and the computer was on its last legs but he managed to boot it up, and there was a folder with 8GB of my IM stuff! Half completed books, half complete software, loads of ideas, transcripts of emails.

    I'll have some fun going through it and I'm sure there'll be some good stuff to share.

    Cheers

    Frank
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      Nice one

      Be fun going through it

      Originally Posted by frankm View Post

      Thanks for the feedback guys, it's genuinely great to be back here.

      Just after writing my last post I wondered if I still had all my old digital IM stuff. It was on a computer that I gave to a friend in 2006. I rang him and the computer was on its last legs but he managed to boot it up, and there was a folder with 8GB of my IM stuff! Half completed books, half complete software, loads of ideas, transcripts of emails.

      I'll have some fun going through it and I'm sure there'll be some good stuff to share.

      Cheers

      Frank
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