Semi-newbie looking for a way to start over

by Chris Gm 23 replies
Hello,
I was involved with IM about 4 years ago (at the same time I was junior studying computer science). I made some money which I invested in IM products or/and services but because of my non-legit content and the reduced time I was spending on this my income stopped after 2-3 months. I was using a PPD method in which I was uploading How To videos on youtube (how to get facebook password etc, I'm a bit ashamed of it now) and in the description there was my link for the file. I'm about to graduate now and I want to make some money to pay the bills left but I was away for a long time and I've not idea for the best method to start at the moment. Also my financial situation won't let me rent or buy any expensive service or product.
Any help will be appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author ContentPro22
    Probably best to get a job first. It's tough to build a website, put up content, build backlinks, and maintain an email list with no money. You need at least some capital to get started (the more, the better).

    Also, anything involving affiliate marketing is going to take some time (months to years) for serious income to come through. At least that's how long it takes me and my friends.

    Building a site out of desperation is NOT the best way to go about things. Definitely wanna have some money coming in FIRST.

    Sucks, but it's the truth. That's what I did, and that's what many others on this forum did, too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Gm
      Yeah, I've been told the same thing and I was making some money just for this but didn't have the time to continue work so I'm back to zero.
      Anyway, thank you for your answer and good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    I'd find another way to make some money first, then look at getting into this one you have a solid foundation. Typically to get started it either takes time or money (or both) and by the sounds of it, neither is on your side (no offence, just reading your post)
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Gm
      Yeah you're absolutely right I've got no money and not time also .
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  • Profile picture of the author seomental
    you can start with cpa,if you have experience in PPD ,you can rank in google and lock your download file.
    you can work in live streaming or different game streaming link
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Gm
      I'll have that in mind, thanks man.
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  • Profile picture of the author joshdn10
    Hey Chris,

    So it's definitely possible to make a decent income online by promoting CPA products as this is free and you can choose good ones that really add value to people. You can honestly making a couple thousand dollars each month doing this.
    This is what I've been doing and I use all FREE traffic methods. The key is to just always give good content and you'll never go wrong. You will need some bucks each month to maintain your list but if you're making money doing it then it''s not an issue.

    So don't give up hope, you can do it man!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Gm
      It was a motivating one, thanks for that. Could I PM you with some questions ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Shams Sikder
    What you can do is get an autoresponder, have a landing page that leads to an affiliate offer, and then run solo ads through the landing page. This way, you will make sales on the affiliate offer, and you can also build your list. If you do this, make sure you get a solo ads provider that guarantees conversions, not just clicks. Anyone can get you a lot of clicks, but if you don't get conversions, there's no point. I've seen some pretty cheap solo ad prices that guarantee conversions, so if you're interested, you should do some research.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Gm
      Yeah I've experienced the lot of clicks but not conversion situation, you're right about it. I'll definitely look into this. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesdj1
    What Shams said BUT don't drive to affiliate landing page.. you most definitely should use and opt-in, leadcapture, page before sending traffic to the affiliate. Build that list!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Gm
      So if I got that right you suggest to make an email list first (traffic) ?
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  • Profile picture of the author amuro
    Originally Posted by Chris Gm View Post

    Hello,
    I was involved with IM about 4 years ago (at the same time I was junior studying computer science). I made some money which I invested in IM products or/and services but because of my non-legit content and the reduced time I was spending on this my income stopped after 2-3 months. I was using a PPD method in which I was uploading How To videos on youtube (how to get facebook password etc, I'm a bit ashamed of it now) and in the description there was my link for the file. I'm about to graduate now and I want to make some money to pay the bills left but I was away for a long time and I've not idea for the best method to start at the moment. Also my financial situation won't let me rent or buy any expensive service or product.
    Any help will be appreciated.


    Hi Chris,

    I do sympathize with your situation.

    However what I like you to know is that your situation is not much different from most newbies trying to start an online business.

    Truth is, most people are ONLY thinking about making money online.

    Which is the wrong way of thinking.

    But I don't blame you because once I was once like that before.

    Still what i want and need you to understand is that in order to make money whether it be from your online or offline business or even when you are in the job working for bosses, you need to DELIVER value first.

    Now my answer might surprise you and some of you commenting in this thread.

    For your info, I come from Southeast Asian island of Singapore. Not sure if you have friends living, studying and working there or whether any of them told you this before.

    But our government places a lot of emphasize on delivering quality and value in all aspects of our lives since my country has no natural resources and hence relies heavily on ALL manpower.

    Because doing so increases productivity

    Whether it will be studies, army for guys, work, play and even dating and setting up families.

    When I say delivering value, I am talking about treating others the way you like to be treated and doing what others tell you to do provided it is in the interest of the government and most people around you.

    Including your families and friends.

    You might be asking me Amuro, what are you talking about and what does this got to do with making money online?

    My answer is just one word.

    EVERYTHING

    From start to finish.

    Look at successful gurus like Anthony Robbins, Brian Tracy and Eben Pagan just to name a few.

    What do they have in common?

    They KNOW what to say and how to help others. Because they KNOW by doing so, they will make a positive difference to more people's lives and more people will come and invest in their programs.

    Been studying them for the last 3-4 years in the process of building my online business even though I started in 2008.

    With the same mindset and situation as you are right now.

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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Gm
      This is a common question I'm asking myself, could I provide something of value to others and if I do what is this. I think that if I answer these questions I'll be in a better place.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Following your passion helps a bunch Chris.

    What feels fun to you? Monetize that.

    Monetizing streams need to feel fun too; if you still dig doing How to videos on YouTube, go for it. Amazing how many features YT is adding to videos to expand our presence and to help us prosper.

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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Gm
      I would go for the How To videos but I think that there is not something that I could explain to others or I haven't found it yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author dijani
    You can always start with free blogs and youtube.
    Example: ask some1 in fiverr to create a good video u may pay them from $5 up to $15 for maybe 40 sec video. Now upload video on youtube and make sure u add keywords/tags to that video and description or should i say make sure u work on Title,Keyowrds and description for better site index.
    Now apply for adsense and connect channel with your adsense account.
    At the description box add your blogs free blogs u can create many with spending anything. Work hard on getting that video on first page of YouTube
    by talking about same subject on other sites or forums linking back to your youtube video, work also on video comments always related to your video.
    Now your youtube video will bring you income maybe not much at the beginning but also will bring you SUBSCRIBERS, the more subs u get the more video views and traffic to your blog u will get.
    Also add to your blog more then adsense ads. Like Peerfly,u got maxbounty ads,clickbank and many more that works so in your blog add more then 1 advertisement and work on traffic only till u get maybe 1K YOUTUBE subs then u can upload more videos.
    This want happen in 1 day but you need to build blog links and audience.

    Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    Well the time when you PPD with its almost gone .Now you must start affiliate marketing and cpa etc .First you wont have problems on youtube marketing and they pay more that ppd
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  • Profile picture of the author mar29
    Hi Chris Gm, Basically I want to be clear with you. Building ang internet business takes time to become successful, you need perseverance and dedication on it.

    First tip for you.

    You should know who are the people that you are going to serve so that you can help them, If you can't do it, you can't imagine who is your customer avatar, you can't imagine how your products can help them.

    Doing business is solving peoples problem so that their life will become more enjoyable.

    I will give you an example, let's say you have a product for weight loss, you must find the people who want to lose weight so that you can help them.

    Whatever the products you are selling, it maybe video, ebook or physical products.

    Come to think of it, the Value of your products that can help to your customers.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Connann
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    Start BUILD A LIST.

    An email list, and then u can use it for cpa, for affiliate marketing.

    If u can do ppd you maybe can make some video to build a list, pointing it to an opt in page.

    ...and then u can have an asset which is constantly growing day by day
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    IM will be here for a long time. Definitely by the time you get out, get a regular job, and slowly invest some money here and there to get this going. And work this stuff in your off hours.
    That's my best advice l
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