
Giving what I experience to help people here
I am not actually a forum poster guy as you can see from my stats.
The thing is I tried to help "people" with free and 1 dollars wso's but I saw that is not an efficient strategy. I mean the wso section is for "selling" and since I don't create compelling sales pages, I do not get any traction.
So here I am with you all buddies.
Nothing to hide. Just pure love.
Biggest mistakes of newbies
SOS
I do not really like the use that term but for the sake of clearness, I will need to use "noob, newbie" terms.
So you basically "find" warriorforum online and gosh "thousands of income possibilities at your fingertips". That is great, right?
Yeah it is great. I guess not every one "trying this make money online thing" knows about warriorforum.
So you are really really luck to find this place.
For me the biggest advantage of warriorforum is you can ask some really successful people questions instead of trying to get coaching from an unknown "guru". And I sincerely believe one can start their online biz from the ground just reading the forum.
But
if you are mostly inside wso section or warriorplus or jvzoo "sales pages", you need to be careful about what you are doing.
Now do not get me wrong there are very good wso's in the wso section. Infact I think wso section is much more transparent than warriorplus and jvzoo offers.
More of that, I believe wso section got a really high quality "change" after freelancer bought warriorforum. If you are one of the guys that remember wso section was "swarmed" by "how to make money by teaching people how to make money" style "offers", you exactly know what I mean.
So do not think I will bash wso's.
The thing is getting in a buying frenzy is "dangerous".
If you are buying product after product and you have nothing to show for, then you need to immediately get out of that mindset known as SOS (shiny object syndrome). This is something like a snowball effect.

At the beginning you have a normal inbox. Then you buy your first "product" and you do not take action on it. Then you get recommended "offers" from the email list you subscribed by the product vendor. Then you buy the offer. Then you get subscribed to the other vendor.
And before you know it, your email inbox is like craigslist.
Worse you are know a "junkie".
Would you be surprised if I would tell you SOS is working in the same manner as substance addiction?
Yes that is a not a theory. You can see here what I mean
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compul...uying_disorder
So this is not a joke.
If you have this kind of disorder you will need to do something different than what you are already doing.
You know the meaning of insanity, right?
You have to seek medical attention if you are in deep phases. Not kidding.
Here is an excerpt from wikipedia:
"Compulsive shopping may be considered an impulse control disorder, an obsessive-compulsive disorder, a bipolar disorder,[3] or even a clinical addiction, depending on the clinical source."
Basically if you think you are somehow into SOS, forget about the money. Save yourself first.
So best thing you should make sure is : Know what phase you are in SOS and recover.
Buying products do not make "money". Acting makes it.
I started making my income after I stopped "buying".
So be very careful, if you will not take action then do not buy.
Take action on every thing you buy. If you do not have time then outsource it. There are thousands of people out there that will "take action" on the "product" you bought "for you" and give you feedback for a few dollars.
If the product does not give the value promised by the vendor then get a refund.
So this was you do not waste nor your time and neither your money. ( There is actually a product I got about this topic.So know that what I am telling you here is not "theory" )
Analysis Paralysis
The number 1 problem you are not where you want to be is "you do not know what you want".

Let me describe what I mean.
There is nothing as "make money online". Period.
Let this sink in.
There is nothing like that.
Instead there is : list building, product launch, affiliate marketing, CPA and list goes on.
So FIRST thing you have to do is : DECIDE WHAT WAY YOU WANNA GO AND NEVER TURN BACK OR JUMP ANOTHER PLANE WHEN YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF FLIGHT.
Hope this makes sense.
A very generic example is : Buying courses on every topic without even knowing what is it about.
Getting into a cpa network and then jumping to product launch and then binary options.
What you need to do is research. It is free. You are already on WF so just do it.
When you find your style then you can "buy" any product on that topic.
But if you do not have any capital or you do not want to buy, then you can also use WF to learn the actual strategies to start your online biz.
This forum is full of golden nuggets. Do not make the assumption they will not work since they are not attached to a sales letter.
Dark side of SOLO Ads
If you have bought products about "list building" you already know the solo ads.
Basically, solo ads are the easiest way of building an email list.
But should be extremealy carefull about it.
You can not basically afford to buy someone on facebook even though they have "glowing testimonials".
Faking as a solo ad vendor is not that hard.
Most popular places to cheat buyers are skype and facebook groups.
Some scammas do it fulltime and earn $5000+ a month, so they take own business seriously and cheat professionally.
Let's say scamma John decided to start stealing money from buyers by selling fake traffic, what would he do?
Step 1: Create Fake Identities
John creates 10-15 accounts with different names on Facebook, Skype and few forum accounts.
John uses American names only, most of them are women, because generally women get more trust.
Many finds avatars for all fake accounts. Avatar will never be professional photo. Pretty girl, but not too hot.
Step 2: Fake "Proof" And Testimonials
Using graphics editor, John also creates fake screenshots from stats and autoresponders.
John cross-posts happy testimonials from all his accounts, claiming crazy results and excellent experience.
John sends few emails from one account to another with happy comments, thanking for great traffic and begging for more clicks.
He creates screenshots and adds these testimonials to other fake screenshots.
John creates free autoresponder account and creates a video of him entering the member area. Then he opens Firebug plugin, edits number of subscribers with fake big number and records another video with modified subscribers count. Using any video editor, John combines two videos. Video with fake subscriber number overlays original one. This creates effect that John logged into his autoresponder to show large number of subscribers.
Step 3: Start Selling Fake Clicks
John starts posting his solo ad promos in adswap and solo mailing groups, claiming he has just started with fresh list, but already has few happy clients. He posts his "screenshot" with proof, adds a video of autoresponder. He already has fake comments on his page from other accounts. Buyers believe this and buy solos.
Now John has to send fake traffic to buyer's website, but it has too look real. It is very easy to do.
John buys proxy list.
John buys a bot app to make thousands clicks. This app has a proxy list built in. It switches proxies and makes fake clicks. For each click it uses new proxy and then uses random computer info (OS, browser, screen, etc) This way traffic looks real: all "visitors" come from different countries, they all have different computer configurations.
Step 4: Adding Fake Optins
After all clicks have been "delivered", John has to create visibility that some of his visitors actually signed up on victim's website. John visits the site and looks at signup form. Most likely it's name/email combination. App has a list with names and last names, John inputs values into app and it creates accounts on victim's site, randomly rotating names and emails.
John's buyer is happy: according to his statistics, he got tons of clicks and about 40% of them have registered on his site. Buyer sends a testimonial for John. This is the first real testimonial for John for his fake traffic. He immediately adds it to his page and gets even more sales.
Step 5: Sales? No Problem
If buyer's product is cheap, John can even make a purchase or two. If customer paid $40-50, pair sales for $7 won't be a problem for John, his profit will go down $14, but the buyer will be very happy, because he thinks John's traffic is of high quality. His list buys.
But John is greedy scamma, he will ask a refund in 20-25 days. He will say that "product is not for me" or "I didn't use it, sorry" and will get a refund. His buyer will not remember that both "customers" were from John, because he already bought few other solos from other people. He doesn't track what customer belongs to what seller.
Things could become even worse if John participates in black hat credit card fraud forums and used stolen credit cards to make sales. After owners of these cards will see unauthorized charges, they will initiate chargebacks and site owner will have to pay chargeback fees on top of refund. After that PayPal can even decide that buyer's site is high risk and close his account altogether. PayPal does that on regular basis, just Google paypal horror stories.
Step 6: Dealing With Smart Buyers
Some buyers suspect fraud, but most likely they won't post anything on public. They will ask questions and John will do his best to convince them the traffic was very good. If he won't be able to convince buyer, he will easily give a refund. John spent nothing, but time. It is easy to give a refund and buyer won't keep pushing.
What you should do then?
I suggest only using solo ad vendors from udimi or soloadsx or other controlled enviroinments.
Buying or Scraping Lists
If you are like me and like to hack strategies, you can think about "alternative" ways to build an email list.
One of the alternatives is scraping.
Basically you use an automated software to scrape emails from internet.
You can get thousands of emails easily. Pretty hot right?
NO.
Because what you are doing needs a profession on bulk emailing industry.
So if you do NOT know the meaning of spam trap then get ready to shut down your autoresponder.
Because the emails you scraped off the internet will have many spam traps and just one mail you send these will put you on blacklists and your other emails will not get delivered to your recepients inbox.
What you will need to do is "clean" your email list first and then bulk email.
But here is another problem.
You can not basically upload an email list to aweber.
So you will need to find a bulk emailing service provider.
But then another problem.
Since the people on your list does not know you or not interested in what you offer, you will get astonishing "open rates" let alone "clicks".
For example you can send 10 000 emails and get 100 opens and 10 clicks.

What you need to do?
You need to "warm up" the email list.
How?
I do not know.
I stopped at that point. But there could be some professionals knowing that. But I guess it is not easy.
What about "buying" an email list?
This kind of email lists deserve to "buy" right?
Well, the answer is same as "solo ad" vendors.
You can basically "buy" "scraped" emails thinking you are getting "niche specific red hot leads".
So where you should buy?
Again I do not know as buying email lists is kind of dark side. I am not that inside dark side.
But what I know is, coregistration is a much more clear approach to "builing your list instantly".
Basically you get subs from real, legal sites.
You can check Opt-Intelligence. (infact this sentence is summary of a wso from a very well know vendor)
For more networks you can check this post (No it is not my site.): https://monetizepros.com/lead-genera...tion-networks/
Easiest way to make money!!
One of the most asked questions is : "hey dude. what is the easiest way to create an influx of dollars to my PayPal account?!"
For me, answer is: leverage.

For example: do launch jack by leveraging "buyer" traffic.
There are many products on muncheye that will launch. Find an offer. Get a review copy.(By the way you are saving your money and getting paid stuff for free this way. This is an excellent way to get rid of SOS )
Then do a video review and put on youtube and rank it with a fiverr gig. What I have just told you here in this paragraph is the essence of 90% "make money online products" sold on warriorplus and Clickbank.
For example : Get inside "make money online from home" type of facebook groups and interact with people. Forward them to your sign up page. Build your list. And you know what to do with your list, right? If not read more about monetizing your email list on WF. (This method is also sold as a product by others)

A perfect example of helping others helps you:
There is a site called seoclerks.com
The site is mostly known for seo providers with ultra economic rates.
You can even get services for just a dollar.
These people are doing great services without asking big price points.
So it seems they need help right?
Just browse the site and find someone with good reviews and find a service you like.
Lets say it is a 5$ web site seo service.
You can buy it for a friends web site and get the site ranked.
And your friend will possibly thank you for your efforts and will give you more than 5$.
So what you have done?
You helped the seller at seoclerks and paid it forward and you also helped your friend and at the same time you helped your very own self by getting paid and getting thanked.
Got the point?
All you risked is 5$!
And maybe before you know it you will establish your local marketing company using these gigs.
So do not overcomplicate things. You can do anything. There is an outsourcer for what ever service you need to provide to your clients.
Work on top of your company not inside of it.
By the way there is no way of "push button commissions".
There is one way as near as "push button" and it is email marketing.
So behave your email list like "gold". Infact today I read from another warrior post. Here it is:
"So helpful - and more powerful - to connect 1 to 1 with human beings versus seeing folks as a list subscriber or numbers on a screen."
You can read that post here : https://www.warriorforum.com/main-in...l#post11071574
Yeah so thanks for reading and do not hesitate to add your comments and questions.
Yours truthfull
AVNY
Why I am giving so much value?
Yeah believe me or not the information I am giving on this thread is a sum of many paid wso's and personal experience that can not be explained with monetary figures.
I have personally endured many struggles, got into SOS severely, added paycheck after paycheck to "guru"s pockets. Got shout on the face "go find a job".
For me this is the revenge time.
I have ZERO interest in "creating a product" and teaching people what I teach here.
Because I am not after money. No more. My priority is "GIVING TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VALUE".
I welcome the consequences of it.
But let me also explain this in detail so that this post will not be one of that "hey I want to help you" sales pages.
I was just like you.
Failed over and over and it goes on....you know.
Then I got hard work ethics, got rid of SOS. Started doing local marketing.
Then got my arse kicked by one of my "local marketing coaching" students.
Then built my email list and got that sweet affiliate commissions. Push button stuff. You know it right?
But then I got an epiphany.
I felt like I had to give more value than I got in.
This is like an energetic law of happiness.
I felt it deep inside.
I understood making commissions without really helping others is POINTLESS.
Having the financial lifestyle you dreamed of is NOTHING if you are emotionally and spiritually not engaged with others.
Would you like to own the whole world with no other human beings inside?
That is exactly what I felt.
So I am doing what I am supposed to be.
Good, real, honest guy. Maybe a Hero. Who knows?
Also this post will lead to a very important experiment for me.
I am the type of person which hates "theory".
Practically I hate to learn things that I won't use.
So when I see something and think it is ok, I instantly TAKE ACTION on it.
I am fan of Gary and there is a very strange story of that why.
But let me focus on this.
One of his quotes say

Do you aggree? Or not?
I do aggree with him.
But that is not enough.
I have to actually DO it!
Got the point?
I am actually doing it. Giving my best advice for free.
Will this work?
We will see.
You can add this page to your favorites and check back and see too.
But I am 100% confident.
Why?
Because I am already feeling that positive vibes on myself.
Getting great compliments. Thanks. Those are like paychecks to me.
I do not care if this will post lead me to very financial success or not.
For me success is "feeling I am doing the right thing"
The interesting thing with Gary Vaynerchuk and me is whenever I read some of his quotes, I instantly get that feeling "hey that is me".
For example here is a quote for the success from Gary's own words.

You see what I mean, right?

So I do it.
By the way, if you are one of those guys who do not want to "do the work", "give value" and only "want the that luxury lifestyle" then I have some big news for you.
You are in the wrong zone. You are chasing that "low energy".
I guarantee you will not be successful.
No I am not saying you will not get rich, I am saying you will not be successfull.

So you can pretty much become "financially rich" without "hard work, dedication, giving value". What you need to do is basically "sell your soul to devil" and he will pay for it handsomely. Get rid of all your "humanly aspects" and exercise lying like crazy.
"Fake it till you make it".
Find a guru with the same energy level like you who will teach you how to "cheat people" and make a ton of money "easily". Like taking a candy bar from a child.
And soon you will have that lifestyle "lying on the Caribbean beach and checking your bank account and answering a few emails and sipping your margarita and kissing your hopefully girl "friend" telling her how much you just "made" and brag your "friends".
I have just received a perfect example of this "let me fck you so that you can fck others" and "scam the greedy" phenomenon.

A perfect article from Gary V
I'm not over the fact that everyone seems to have an insane lack of patience and a lack of understanding of what it takes to be successful. There are so many of you out there with the same exact questions about how to be an entrepreneur or how to run a successful business or how to do x, y, and z. And so many times I have given you the same answer: put out content; build a great product; test and try it all; use your data; use your intuition; test and learn, test and learn, test and learn. It takes time, talent, and skill.
However, what's most frustrating is that I'm giving you so many of these answers yet most of you still aren't actually doing it.

Have a great product and need to bring awareness to potential customers? You can do it through content marketing. You can do it through advertising. You can do it by going to the Chamber of Commerce. You can do it by cold calling every single business in town and getting their support. There are so many ways to do it.
But one way not to do it is by watching all my videos or reading Seth Godin's books and just pondering and white-boarding all day about what your next move is going to be. Too many of you just read and consume and make pretend and talk about how "you're gonna do this" or "you're gonna do that." Lack of action is not the way to do it.

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