Is making and marketing multiple niche sites "unethical"?

by hbeezy
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So I've been trying to figure this out for a while... and I couldn't. Every niche website that teaches how to make niche website doesn't really address this "uncertainty" that I keep thinking of.

Say for example, I got websites on parenting, wilderness survival, golf, weight loss and testosterone. Managing those 5 for one person would take time but before we even get there, I need to figure out if it makes sense.

Like where is the cutoff?? 100? When do you decide "I've made a lot of websites and I need to chill" ?? Or when does it become unethical to do this (if it does)?

What I really should be asking though, is HOW can niche marketers be in so many different niches at one time??
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    How in the world would it be unethical?

    Anyone who owns a ton of niche websites has them operating pretty much on autopilot. Once they are setup, there is not a lot of work to be done.

    I create a site. Create the content. Build an autoresponder series if appropriate. Setup its traffic sources (PPC, SEO, etc.), and move on. Other than monitoring the results, you don't have to be involved with each site all that much.
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    Mostly, marketers do that for creating a good PBN. They eventually link back to their own main site to get conversions from that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    HOW can niche marketers be in so many different niches at one time??
    As a person, do you have many interests...or just one? I don't agree that multiple niches would likely be a PBN but why shouldn't someone work in various areas of interest?

    What could possibly be unethical about it? You build sites that don't need daily maintenance or constant posts added - you have a schedule of site maintenance, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author hbeezy
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      As a person, do you have many interests...or just one? I don't agree that multiple niches would likely be a PBN but why shouldn't someone work in various areas of interest?

      What could possibly be unethical about it? You build sites that don't need daily maintenance or constant posts added - you have a schedule of site maintenance, etc.
      See you bring up a good point. At first, it is about the interests of the creator. But what if I was interested in some of the niches, while the others I'm in it for the money?

      For example, it wouldn't make sense for me to start a weight loss site if I'm already skinny... or a parenting site if I don't have kids.... you catch my drift?
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by hbeezy View Post

        See you bring up a good point. At first, it is about the interests of the creator. But what if I was interested in some of the niches, while the others I'm in it for the money?

        For example, it wouldn't make sense for me to start a weight loss site if I'm already skinny... or a parenting site if I don't have kids.... you catch my drift?
        IMO it's OK for you to be in it for the money, as long as you give honest and reliable info and offers. Just as it would be unethical to have an interest or be more qualified to have a niche site, but then give poor info and offers.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          IMO it's OK for you to be in it for the money, as long as you give honest and reliable info and offers. Just as it would be unethical to have an interest or be more qualified to have a niche site, but then give poor info and offers.
          There's the ethical line for me. You mentioned weight loss and parenting as two topics. Both have risks in providing information.

          I steer away from medical topics because the idea of someone following my advice and ignoring their MD and dying gives me the heebie jeebies. Knocking together a weight loss site using poorly researched PLR in order to promote quack cures would be unethical. Creating site to share your own (or someone you know's) weight loss story, and honestly saying what you did and what did or didn't work is (or could be) perfectly ethical.

          Last year my wife was diagnosed as diabetic. Since then, I've learned that there are so many variables involved that even if you "cured" your diabetes through some kind of diet and exercise program, it doesn't mean the same would work for someone else. In such a case, it would be ethical to say "here's what helped (never 'cured') me, maybe it will help you" and totally unethical to say "this cures diabetes."
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Most of us have various hobbies and interests which are different than our job required skills/interests which are different from our parenting/marriage related skills/interests.

    I don't see any problem, ethically or otherwise, with writing about all of them.

    However, I do see a problem with people that claim to be experts when they aren't and promising things they really can't promise. Most of us are not expert in more than a thing or two. Claiming otherwise would be wrong, in my opinion.

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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Originally Posted by hbeezy View Post

    So I've been trying to figure this out for a while... and I couldn't. Every niche website that teaches how to make niche website doesn't really address this "uncertainty" that I keep thinking of.

    Say for example, I got websites on parenting, wilderness survival, golf, weight loss and testosterone. Managing those 5 for one person would take time but before we even get there, I need to figure out if it makes sense.

    Like where is the cutoff?? 100? When do you decide "I've made a lot of websites and I need to chill" ?? Or when does it become unethical to do this (if it does)?

    What I really should be asking though, is HOW can niche marketers be in so many different niches at one time??
    You concentrate on these:

    1. Passive traffic.
    2. Staff/ VAs (outsourcing).
    3. Legit automation.
    4. User-submitted media.

    What you should know, though, is many business models require very little active management. You setup your money site and, in some cases, you drive traffic through either totally hands-off means or you schedule work to drive traffic throughout the month. As an example, perhaps you have a type of money site that literally requires no updates. You can grow around that entity your social empire and schedule updates through HootSuite. In fact, sometimes you don't need an empire (such a grand word). You put together your money site, you grow a social, you schedule updates. And even all of that can be outsourced or put into the hands of your personal VA.

    At this stage, though, forget about those questions. Seriously. Forget them. Think instead about getting 1 business working for you, and for goodness sakes, keep it simple. There is no shame in having a simple operation. I have them myself. Yes, expand into more advanced ventures as you evolve in this career, but stick to simple for now. I got started over 2 decades ago and simple business models still arrive in my portfolio (and they're often my favourite - they're a chance to try out something new and fun that excites me). What you do is work out two main things. First, your niche and what type of money site you're going to use. Second, how you intend to drive traffic. There are other considerations but those are your main go-tos at this stage (when keeping things simple).

    You mention wilderness survival. Love that one. The survivalist niche has so many strong monetizations. But keep in mind, what is a monetization? It's just another way of saying: this is something of value. Think, then, not in terms of how to earn from your audience; think how you can give them value, and while you're doing that, turn a buck. Always put the audience first. Now, with that in mind, just let me explain a pretty simple model that highlights everything I said above.

    You spread your business across 2 platforms. 1. Your website. 2. A facebook page. That, really, is all you need. Yes, other things would be great, and they will be great when you evolve the business, but FB + money site is a solid little setup. You grow your FB. You feed it with value (usually in the form of articles, images, videos). And you concentrate on learning what makes your audience tick in terms of value. And value isn't just about monetization. Your audience will value non-monetized media. In your particular audience, for instance, they're very receptive to the idea of making a statement to others. A simple way to acheive that is by sharing captioned images wherein they can share it with friends and family and basically say, "I believe in this statement."

    Some quick thoughts. Upshot: take one step at a time. Setup your business. Get it earning. But engineer that business so that the emphasis is away from the hands-on. Look at those first 4 bullets. Feature those into your development. You can do 1 and 3 right away, and then grow towards 2 and 4 when the business will support it.

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  • Profile picture of the author imagetypers
    No. its not "unethical" you are basically becoming an "internet-businessman".
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Here's the truth about passion and business...loving to play golf is a lot different that loving to write about golf, although it probably does help to write about it if you like it.

    Then, no matter whether you have a passion for golf or not, you're going to have to promote your site and get traffic to it. If you do get traffic, you'll have to then deal with competitors. You'll also need thin skin to deal with trolls and angry customers. Your site may be hacked, etc.

    While passion for a niche probably does help, there's many other factors to having a successful niche site. IMO, your "passion" should be more for success than for a specific topic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    When you're passionate about a niche, you are your own audience. This gives you the type of valuable insights necessary to connect with that audience, but also to know the subject well enough to develop that business for the audience.

    I have, for instance, a passion for comics. That means I know the market, in this case, inside and out. I know values, I know what people want at the moment, how to speak to them, how they think (as an audience) and, in general, I know what I need to know in order to operate a business about comics. On the other hand, I have no passion for golf, and I expect I'd make an utterly lousy business about golf.

    Upshot: do what you love. You'll be happier and likely richer.

    It's the people who only have a passion for success that rarely get success. They have to harness something marketable, not just their dreams.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by Tom Addams View Post

      When you're passionate about a niche, you are your own audience. This gives you the type of valuable insights necessary to connect with that audience, but also to know the subject well enough to develop that business for the audience.

      I have, for instance, a passion for comics. That means I know the market, in this case, inside and out. I know values, I know what people want at the moment, how to speak to them, how they think (as an audience) and, in general, I know what I need to know in order to operate a business about comics. On the other hand, I have no passion for golf, and I expect I'd make an utterly lousy business about golf.

      Upshot: do what you love. You'll be happier and likely richer.

      It's the people who only have a passion for success that rarely get success. They have to harness something marketable, not just their dreams.


      - Tom
      I disagree. The most money I ever made online was in a niche I had zero interest in. My "passion" at the time was in SEO, not the topic of the niche. The key was there were a lot of other people who were passionate in that niche.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        I disagree. The most money I ever made online was in a niche I had zero interest in. My "passion" at the time was in SEO, not the topic of the niche. The key was there were a lot of other people who were passionate in that niche.
        Well, good luck to you then, matey.

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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Not unethical at all.

    But inhuman/impossible endeavor because no human knows enough about more than a handful of disciplines to create something useful. I prefer to focus on 1 niche. Specialize. Be a Go-To guy. Master 1 trade. Versus being a Jack of many.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    Originally Posted by hbeezy View Post

    What I really should be asking though, is HOW can niche marketers be in so many different niches at one time??
    Delegation and leverage. Where does it say that internet marketing has to be a solo activity?

    If you want multiple sites, you just need to find a formula that's scalable.
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  • Profile picture of the author mguinto
    As long as your contributing valuable content to the users, you're not crossing any ethical lines. There are numerous companies and organizations that successfully run multiple sites for various niches.

    Though much like traffic, it always boils down to quality over quality. Especially with niches, it's better to have 10 sites that has quality and engaging content rather than 50 sites with dry and stagnant content. You want to build a community within your sites and grow it organically.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by hbeezy View Post

    So I've been trying to figure this out for a while... and I couldn't. Every niche website that teaches how to make niche website doesn't really address this "uncertainty" that I keep thinking of.

    Say for example, I got websites on parenting, wilderness survival, golf, weight loss and testosterone. Managing those 5 for one person would take time but before we even get there, I need to figure out if it makes sense.

    Like where is the cutoff?? 100? When do you decide "I've made a lot of websites and I need to chill" ?? Or when does it become unethical to do this (if it does)?

    What I really should be asking though, is HOW can niche marketers be in so many different niches at one time??
    I don't understand how this would be unethical at all.

    As long as you keep making money why not keep going.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrianne_
    Originally Posted by hbeezy View Post

    Like where is the cutoff?? 100? When do you decide "I've made a lot of websites and I need to chill" ?? Or when does it become unethical to do this (if it does)?

    What I really should be asking though, is HOW can niche marketers be in so many different niches at one time??
    It never becomes unethical. Do you think if you promote 2 different products in
    the make money niche that one product is somehow cheating on the other?
    Niche marketers generally don't start out in a hundred different niches at once.
    They start with one niche, then get it up and going. Once it becomes profitable,
    they add on niche #2, then #3, and so on until they have a ton of niche sites,
    delivering passive income.
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  • Profile picture of the author joshdn10
    Can't see how that would be unethical... I think when you become good at building niche sites it can become like a new challenge for you to try build and rank new ones.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      It perhaps becomes unethical when your efforts become so distributed, your content and presentation suffers to a considerable degree, serving as 'scrap' on the Internet. In this event you shoot yourself in the foot and tarnish niche marketing as a whole, effecting everyone else involved in the same line of work.

      The influx of stereotypical, low quality squeeze pages in the late 90's managed to establish an almighty taboo. People would glance at a page and see it as a 'scam site', when in fact it was simply promoting an info product - badly.

      It's more productive to focus your efforts into one or a few areas of expertise, rather than 100 sites which completely wing it to garner a sale.

      A Jack of all Trades is a master of none and a very busy boy juggling all of his tools.
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