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7 years ago

That is possibly self employed / authoriship, digital product, internet marketing simplified.

A large proportion of 'Internet Marketing' is corporate brand awareness strategies and media buys, without website intervention or content generation.

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TheBigBee

7 years ago

This is Warrior Forum tho.

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Daniel Evans

7 years ago

It's true that the forum predominantly attracts self employed individuals who provide digital content. 'Internet Marketing' is just so much more by definition.

Still, there's a lot of self employed people who are 'Internet Marketing' promoting content which isn't their own. Sometimes they promote products (at discount especially) as affiliates, which sell themselves.

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TheBigBee

7 years ago

No one said Internet Marketing wasn't more. I fear you may be reading too much into this. I say that because the post I made fit the target audience.

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Daniel Evans

7 years ago

Originally Posted by TheBigBee

No one said Internet Marketing wasn't more. I fear you may be reading too much into this. I say that because the post I made fit the target audience.

All that was pointed out is that 'Internet Marketing' cannot be simplified for the fact that it's not definable in the tidy context you are trying to suggest it in your title and post.

Your post emphasises the importance of knowledge / ability and demonstrative quality of content - for those who develop content. It does not apply to those who needn't develop their own content (some of whom are the audience here), and thus, it isn't 'Internet Marketing simplified'.

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TheBigBee

7 years ago

Relax bro. It's Warrior Forum.

I agree with everything you said. I do. But, again, my post fit the target audience which is Warriors swimming in seas of indecision.

I didn't stand up in front of a bunch of Fortune 500 Marketing Pros with this thesis.

I posted it to the Internet Marketing section of Warrior Forum man. Geez.

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Daniel Evans

7 years ago

I'm merely commenting with good intention.

Again, the Warrior Forum has an audience of 'Internet Marketers' who don't develop their own content.

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Adrianne_

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

...Again, the Warrior Forum has an audience of 'Internet Marketers' who don't develop their own content.

To create content, this can be accomplished by either writing the content yourself, or outsourcing it from an experienced writer. It's doesn't mean that the marketer MUST personally write the content or else face imminent failure. I don't think that's what the op was saying. Anyone who's been around the IM industry for more than a minute knows that you work on the stuff that you're good at and outsource the areas you're not so good at. This includes content. It really is that simple.

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Daniel Evans

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Adrianne_

To create content, this can be accomplished by either writing the content yourself, or outsourcing it from an experienced writer. It's doesn't mean that the marketer MUST personally write the content or else face imminent failure. I don't think that's what the op was saying. Anyone who's been around the IM industry for more than a minute knows that you work on the stuff that you're good at and outsource the areas you're not so good at. This includes content. It really is that simple.

I think you misunderstand.

Some people don't even factor content into their 'Internet Marketing' job simply because their job doesn't involve content. They don't produce content, nor do they need anyone to produce content on their behalf.

Managing and / or promoting websites with content to call to action is not the 'IM industry'. It's but one sector of it. Your reply therefore addresses these people and these people only, who are, but one type of 'Internet Marketer'.

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Adrianne_

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

I think you misunderstand.

Some people don't even factor content into their 'Internet Marketing' job simply because their job doesn't involve content. They don't produce content, nor do they need anyone to produce content on their behalf.

Managing and / or promoting websites with content to call to action is not the 'IM industry'. It's but one sector of it. Your reply therefore addresses these people and these people only, who are, but one type of 'Internet Marketer'.

Nothing to misunderstand. The original post was about 2 points only.
There was no mention of every aspect of the IM industry and my post
address only those 2 points to keep things simple.

If a brand new person were presented with 101 ways to make money
in IM or given 2 suggestions, which one would overwhelm them? Yet
if they were to focus on 2 methods, get good at it, then move on to
2 more methods, eventually they may cover all 101 ways. Or they
may opt to only focus on 2.

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Daniel Evans

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Adrianne_

Nothing to misunderstand. The original post was about 2 points only.
There was no mention of every aspect of the IM industry and my post
address those only those 2 points.

You misunderstand completely.

Your reply addressed the points of the OP, yet you quoted me, ignoring my point and you still continue to ignore it.

With respect and for the sixth time (and hopefully my last); my point is that the OP is not simplifying Internet Marketing (as in the tile), or informing us 'how to succeed in Internet Marketing', but rather simplifying and showing how to succeed in one sector of Internet Marketing relating to content development. Otherwise, his overall post has valid information which I throughly agree with.

If your eagerness to comprehend were as strong as your need to defend, you'd see that clearly.

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Adrianne_

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

You misunderstand completely.

Your reply addressed the point of the OP, yet you quoted me, ignoring the key point and you still continue to ignore it.

With respect and for the sixth time (and hopefully my last); my point is that the OP is not simplifying Internet Marketing (as in the tile), or informing us 'how to succeed in Internet Marketing', but rather simplifying and showing how to succeed in one sector of Internet Marketing relating to content development. Otherwise, the overall post has valid information which I throughly agree with.

If your eagerness to comprehend were as strong as your need to defend, you'd see that clearly.

Right. If you have to repeat yourself, especially 6 times, then what's
wrong with this picture? When I saw the title, and then read both
points, I instinctively knew he was only referring to 1 facet of IM.
And from reading everybody else's post, they came to the same
conclusion. Everybody except you.

Even the op attempted to explain to you were he was coming from
and that you were reading far to much into what he was saying, but
you insisted on doing a deep dive into the fullness of IM anyway,
and how it cannot be defined, yada, yada, yada.

The point is, you took it one way, and the rest of us took it the way
it was actually intended. It's time to move on, man.

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Daniel Evans

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Adrianne_

Right. If you have to repeat yourself, especially 6 times, then what's
wrong with this picture? When I saw the title, and then read both
points, I instinctively knew he was only referring to 1 facet of IM.
And from reading everybody else's post, they came to the same
conclusion. Everybody except you.

Even the op attempted to explain to you were he was coming from
and that you were reading far to much into what he was saying, but
you insisted on doing a deep dive into the fullness of IM anyway,
and how it cannot be defined, yada, yada, yada.

The point is, you took it one way, and the rest of us took it the way
it was actually intended. It's time to move on, man.

Indeed, there were 2 points raised which didn't represent the entirety of 'Internet Marketing'. I understand the OP perfectly, yet my point stands.

This was the observation and one which I've kindly elaborated times over for those, like you who didn't grasp that simple principle. That miscomprehension was the 'wrong picture' pertaining to your enquiry.

You should demonstrate understanding before posting and contemplate intervention if such things make you so upset.

Enjoy your day.

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Meharis 7 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

I'm merely commenting with good intention.

Again, the Warrior Forum has an audience of 'Internet Marketers' who don't develop their own content.

The Warrior Forum has an audience with all kinds of marketers developing their own content.
I'm one of them. To be so categorical, you should manage the right data.
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celente

7 years ago

Originally Posted by TheBigBee

Relax bro. It's Warrior Forum.

I agree with everything you said. I do. But, again, my post fit the target audience which is Warriors swimming in seas of indecision.

I didn't stand up in front of a bunch of Fortune 500 Marketing Pros with this thesis.

I posted it to the Internet Marketing section of Warrior Forum man. Geez.

sometimes people get their feathers ruffled on here. Its all good.

its like a kid on teh computer screaming down the hall..... "HEY MOM, THIS GUY ON THE INTERWEBS JUST TOLD ME I WAS WRONG!!! "

HAHA....lol.....

There is lots of cool info here anyway, no one is giving out secrets in here, that has not already been given out. So yeah I agree with you.

Plus stuff that is making warrirs big money in here, is no chitty shiney object, its the solid foundations that worked back even when the internet was not around.

Build a community, help that community and offer them stuff.

The internet just makes it more easy to do that these days.

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Guus Van Bruwaene

7 years ago

Yes focus on 1 thing. 100
Procent true!(later on you can do other things off course)

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discrat

7 years ago

Originally Posted by TheBigBee

Don't worry about that stuff.

Oh, and for heavens sakes, if you've never made money online, don't make a product about how to make money online and expect people to believe that you're genuinely making money online.

don't tell this to the gurus...they thrive off teaching Newbies how to teach other newbies on to teach other newbies on how to yet again teach other newbies how to make money online

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TheBigBee

7 years ago

don't tell this to the gurus...they thrive off teaching Newbies how to teach other newbies on to teach other newbies on how to yet again teach other newbies how to make money online

It's SAD. Extremely. These guys are good at selling that pipe dream. They're so good at it that folks get offended when you introduce them to reality. It's like when a mom has to confront the fact that her son was caught on tape committing a very bad crime - she'll blame the crime on the person showing the tape "Not my baby!" These newbies are the same "NOT MY GURU!" lmao!

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ryanbiddulph

7 years ago

Yes. Develop that 1 skill, REALLY well, and of course monetize as you share free info in that niche. I'd add to build your network of buddies too. Nothing like having an army of folks who promote you and endorse you, spreading your reach, as you help them out.

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DIABL0

7 years ago

If you are going to get really good at one thing. I would suggest it be learning how to drive traffic / generate cost effective leads.

If you can do that consistently. Your offer, funnel, copy, etc... doesn't have to be the best and you can still make money. Plus you can always optimize and make it all better. You can provide it as a service, do affiliate marketing, etc...

To me, it's the key to becoming a sucessful marketer.

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ryanbiddulph 7 years ago

Once you have targeted, quality traffic you are good to go. Foundational thing here.
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Edwin Torres

7 years ago

Different ways to approach it. It all depends on your niche. I do agree it's important to focus and master ONE thing. In my opinion, that ONE thing should be copywriting.

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Rory Singh

7 years ago

Pick (1) marketing method, learn it, master it. Rinse and repeat it Most newbies don't get this. They see experienced marketers in every niche and figure they will keep trying stuff out until they find the easy one.

Then some folks will try multiple marketing methods all at the same time.

You will just end up scattering your energy very thin this way.

Good post.

This topic can be repeated every day.

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celente

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Rory Singh

Pick (1) marketing method, learn it, master it. Rinse and repeat it Most newbies don't get this. They see experienced marketers in every niche and figure they will keep trying stuff out until they find the easy one.

Then some folks will try multiple marketing methods all at the same time.

You will just end up scattering your energy very thin this way.

Good post.

This topic can be repeated every day.

very true.

Wake up and just know what to do.

For me its fresh leads, and emailing those leads every day.

Lets say you had a gun to your head and you had 1 hour to make sales everyday, that is what I do.

I pretend, and make it my duty to make good use of my time.

i am always thinking how can I get more leads to my business and build on that. Its the number 1 driver or sales in my business....LEADS, and FUNNELS. this chit just works. ** cheezy grin here**

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Daniel Evans

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Meharis

The Warrior Forum has an audience with all kinds of marketers developing their own content.
I'm one of them. To be so categorical, you should manage the right data.

It's good that the information pertains to your activities in Internet Marketing, since for those who use and develop content, it's great advice.

People who are experienced will filter what information is applicable to them since they have the knowledge to do so. For people stating out however; they may be misguided by the stated incorrect absolutes dictating their options.

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Meharis

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

It's good that the information pertains to your activities in Internet Marketing, since for those who use and develop content, it's great advice.

People who are experienced will filter what information is applicable to them since they have the knowledge to do so. For people stating out however; they may be misguided by the stated incorrect absolutes dictating their options.

Oh well, if that makes you happy...
No more answers for someone who is always right.
Your previous postings prove it. Bye.

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Daniel Evans 7 years ago

Originally Posted by Meharis

Oh well, if that makes you happy...
No more answers for someone who is always right.
Your previous postings prove it. Bye.

My businesses certainly make me happy and the hundreds of students who I've taught to embark upon ventures without specified knowledge and written content are happy because that's specifically what they dislike. If I were incorrect, we wouldn't be able to relish in that fact.

Now all that remains is your happiness, free of aggression and so, may you find it in your line of business - in content generation.
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TheBigBee

7 years ago

Oh well, if that makes you happy...
No more answers for someone who is always right.
Your previous postings prove it. Bye.

I agree with you on this... Seems as if he's engaging in constant and frequent intellectual "self stimulation" *hint* *hint*.

Guy goes off about "IM is bigger..." Well freaking duh buddy, but this is WF and the content matches the target. Folks like him need to "intellectually release" *hint hint* in areas where it will result in money in their bank accounts... smh

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Daniel Evans

7 years ago

Originally Posted by TheBigBee

I agree with you on this... Seems as if he's engaging in constant and frequent intellectual "self stimulation" *hint* *hint*.

Guy goes off about "IM is bigger..." Well freaking duh buddy, but this is WF and the content matches the target. Folks like him need to "intellectually release" *hint hint* in areas where it will result in money in their bank accounts... smh

Anyone could be forgiven for suggesting that you should not state absolutes unless they apply. You've chosen to ignore the fact again that the content does not fit the target audience - only those who develop content here on the Warrior Forum.

There is plenty of opportunity for success without touching content and so your absolute claims are completely incorrect, though your lack of admittance in a bid to save face, remains ever intruiging.

If you cannot handle critique, it would be my advice that you think twice before posting a supposed authorative post and address people personally in more mature manner, lest there's no positive outcome to your contribution other than projected contradiction and Ill manner.

'IM', is bigger and so much bigger than your blanket proposition and indeed, the 'intellectual' minds will identify your motivation - and your error. People are well aware of why such threads are established, so to undermine people, talking of 'money in bank accounts' is but another fault and a clear projection of your own motivation.

Fortunately people have a wealth of options at their disposal to succeed in Internet Marketing which don't involve any factors which you touch upon.

It's a shame that you circumvented the majority of your post that I agreed with, in its correct context.

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TheBigBee

7 years ago

You are right. You are always right about everything. You are a God. You deserve national monuments, holidays, and the largest memorial in the history of mankind upon your exit from this earth.

You write and type eloquently and it shows a deep understanding of the English language. You are able to find holes in the infallible which is exemplary of your advanced qualitative analytical and logical reasoning skills.

We should all aspire to be like you. Thank you for sharing.

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Daniel Evans

7 years ago

Originally Posted by TheBigBee

You are right. You are always right about everything. You are a God. You deserve national monuments, holidays, and the largest memorial in the history of mankind upon your exit from this earth.

You write and type eloquently and it shows a deep understanding of the English language. You are able to find holes in the infallible which is exemplary of your advanced qualitative analytical and logical reasoning skills.

We should all aspire to be like you. Thank you for sharing.

I'm disappointed, since, as a supposed authority, you present such an immature display.

Likewise, and more so, I was dissapointed to encounter (amidst you claiming you are 'best in the world' ironically), your same untoward attitude follow suit in your WSO when someone posted polite critique:

Originally Posted by TheBigBee

Are you a child? To position yourself as a "newbie" victim implies that you are DEFINITELY not a man. I'm "preying" on you? That says it all. You must be a child. Because no man with a backbone and pride will ever be "prey" for another man.

When you THREATENED to leave a negative review while DEMANDING a refund, what did I say? I encouraged you to leave the negative review because I was sure that any MAN or WOMAN, any ADULT with pride could never take you seriously.

I have no patience for weak people... No tolerance whatsoever... You're the WEAKEST customer to ever buy any of my MANY WSO's... Sad.

I'd advise that you need to step back, revise yourself and learn how to handle crtitique, since such disrespect won't get garner you any positive traction in any walk of life.

'Backbone', 'pride' and being an 'adult / man' will be demonstrated by carrying yourself like the better person you can be - not the people you project upon with your very own detrimental traits.

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TheBigBee 7 years ago

I am honored to occupy so many of your brain cells to a point where you've researched me so thoroughly. Wow.

I'm honored because I'll slit my wrist before I invest a single moment of my time researching anything you've posted.

Regarding your "critique" of my response to my WSO review, can't you tell I didn't give two f**cks? If I cared I would have refunded the guy and "defended" myself. Not giving a f**k is liberating.

Stop giving a f**k about me so much to a point where you're researching me and my past here so vigorously and focus your energies where it matters - your wallet.

i would never in a million years take the time to research anything about you...

I'm honored.

Now... go on, have the last word. You need that for your ego. I'll let you have it. Go on, have the last word, I promise I will NOT reply. Scouts honor.

I know you need it for your ego.

So go on... sit, think, and craft something and make sure you get that mental release you seek from your last word.

Have a nice life!
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- Jonathan 2.0 Banned 7 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by TheBigBee
  
  Have a nice life!
  
  If you choose to, you can learn something
  from that response TheBigBee. What?
  That getting "defensive" and "insulting"
  doesn't work 99% of the time. (I know
  because I used to do it a lot ...)
  
  (Just some friendly advice.)
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Brent Stangel

7 years ago

Here's how to succeed in internet marketing. You follow these steps, you'll make SOME money. Even if it's only a small amount.

Now that's a pipe dream!

From there, you'll attract eyeballs to your content

This happens by osmosis?

This is Warrior Forum tho.

No need for reality then...party on!

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Daniel Evans

7 years ago

Originally Posted by TheBigBee

I am honored to occupy so many of your brain cells to a point where you've researched me so thoroughly. Wow.

I'm honored because I'll slit my wrist before I invest a single moment of my time researching anything you've posted.

Regarding your "critique" of my response to my WSO review, can't you tell I didn't give two f**cks? If I cared I would have refunded the guy and "defended" myself. Not giving a f**k is liberating.

Stop giving a f**k about me so much to a point where you're researching me and my past here so vigorously and focus your energies where it matters - your wallet.

i would never in a million years take the time to research anything about you...

I'm honored.

Now... go on, have the last word. You need that for your ego. I'll let you have it. Go on, have the last word, I promise I will NOT reply. Scouts honor.

I know you need it for your ego.

So go on... sit, think, and craft something and make sure you get that mental release you seek from your last word.

Have a nice life!

It's but your own ego in its own delusion if you think I spent any time researching you.

I was linked to your thread post by someone who has a lot of problems with you.

It looks very much like you do care about the critique and that is the very root of your problem. So much so, you become deeply emotional to the point where you express yourself immaturely attempting to hide hurt behind aggression. The same problem lies herein. Sensitive defence to a simple point in discussion.

The effort you made to promote your WSO by establishing this thread, likely failed for the fact that your ego couldn't handle a little bit of valid, polite critique. Again, sensitivity and aggression. Your projection of your traits upon others is, again, intruiging for the fact that it's your ego at play and your bid to make money.

Demonstrating obnoxiousness and childishness through repetitive claims of non-care and swearing, impresses no-one and proves brilliantly that you very much care. If you insist on maintaining your ways, you should consider exercising the gangster elsewhere. As someone who's clearly in such a hole with regards to complaints, (some of which are very concerning indeed), I suggest you stop digging and be honoured when you have something to legitimately feel honoured about.

As you kindly declared your aggressive tirade as your last contribution here as a 'Scouts Honor', all that remains is to sharpen yourself up, 'get good at one thing' (which isn't aggression), and work more amicably with the people you are using to fill your wallet - yet abusing with ill manners.

When you begin to treat people in the way you yourself like to be treated, you'll discover what a 'nice life' actually is.

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P.S.
Sometimes "Internet Marketing" (even "Life")
can be difficult. However it's not what happens
to you (or how you're feeling at the time)--
It's how you respond that counts.
: )

Choose to respond "positively."

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affilorama-portal

7 years ago

Hi,

Thank you for sharing this. While it is true that IM cannot be simplified into a few words and sentences, it is also true that you can simplify IM in your own way. If that way works well for you, then why not? We all have our own understanding of things and we also reflect and take action on those things differently. What matters is whatever it is, as long as you know it has worked well for you then that is an achievement and worth sharing

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