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Hello, i have the following idea and would like to know your thoughts on that: I have no products to sell and I don´t know really how to do affiliate marketing, but I want to start somehow and learn from that point on. How about that: I find people who have digital products but do not work with affiliate marketers, perhaps they even don't know that affiliate networks excist. I offer these people to help them with their marketing. Then I go to the affiliate networks upload/ offer their product there, so that I get affiliate marketers to do the affiliate marketing. A small percentage of the commission I would keep, for example 50% of the price for the affiiate marketer, 5% for me, 45% for the producer of the product. What do you think? Some problems you see coming? thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Some problems you see coming?
    Most definitely. Big problems.

    This is nothing but a scheme/scam. You can't place someone else's product on affiliate networks and have the payment directed to you - it's not your product.

    You are going to give away 50% of the purchase price of someone else's product? You are going to keep some money for yourself and then....give the seller the rest?

    And you don't see the 'big problems'?
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    • Profile picture of the author Molzer7
      hi, i cannot see the problem. how is juristical and technical, in comparison to emotional seeing? are there any legal or technical problems which can come up?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    are there any legal or technical problems which can come up?
    Seriously?

    Are you explaining to the PRODUCT OWNER that you are putting his product on affiliate networks?

    Do you have his permission to collect some of the money for yourself - and to give away 50% of the price of the product?

    If people buy the product through an 'affiliate network' - does the payment go directly to the owner of the product....or to you?
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    • Profile picture of the author Molzer7
      Are you explaining to the PRODUCT OWNER that you are putting his product on affiliate networks?
      - no, i would just say that his product will be sold

      Do you have his permission to collect some of the money for yourself - and to give away 50% of the price of the product?
      yes, i will get the permission first of course

      If people buy the product through an 'affiliate network' - does the payment go directly to the owner of the product....or to you?
      i dont care. i will find a solution which all agree with.

      so, as i have answered all your question, would you please be so kind and contribute also something, for example answering my questions:

      are there any legal or technical or other problems which can come up?

      thank you very much
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Mr
    I think it is possible. You can through a reputable mediator. Then you and your supplier will deal with the intermediary. When money is returned to the intermediary account. The intermediary then pays the supplier and you as a percentage have agreed (including the intermediary).
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  • Profile picture of the author Gambino
    Essentially, you're becoming an affiliate manager. If that's the case, then I don't see any problems as long as you articulate what you're doing/offering to the product owner(s). But, I think you're underestimating what's involved. You're not simply going to be able to list other people's products on affiliate marketing sites and watch the money come in.

    There's a lot more work involved than you appear to expect if you're going to be an affiliate manager. Plus, you should know how to help affiliates be successful since you're the one they'll turn to when they need assistance or have questions. What value do you provide the affiliates or the product owner? Most product owners will likely kick you to the curb once you list their product if you don't have anything else to offer. Or they'll just hire someone on Upwork to do the same thing for $20.00 without ongoing commissions.

    The other thing is your 50/45/5 split. Most digital products pay affiliates 70-100% commissions on the front end. So, it may be hard to attract affiliates for 50% commissions which leaves you and the owner with an even smaller piece of the pie.

    The only way I could see this potentially working is if you targeted high end offers (like coaching) and taught affiliates to sell them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I don't know what you are looking at that makes this acceptable?

    He doesn't mention anywhere being an 'affiliate manager' - wouldn't an 'affiliate manager' need to know something about the subject? He says

    I don´t know really how to do affiliate marketing
    My question to the OP:
    Are you explaining to the PRODUCT OWNER that you are putting his product on affiliate networks?
    His Answer:
    - no, i would just say that his product will be sold
    Would you be OK with someone you don't know putting YOUR product on affiliate networks without your knowledge or permission?

    If you see this working - you're way ahead of me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gambino
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I don't know what you are looking at that makes this acceptable?

      He doesn't mention anywhere being an 'affiliate manager' - wouldn't an 'affiliate manager' need to know something about the subject? He says



      My question to the OP:


      His Answer:


      Would you be OK with someone you don't know putting YOUR product on affiliate networks without your knowledge or permission?

      If you see this working - you're way ahead of me.
      Well, I'm cutting the OP a lot of slack since it's obvious that this is an 'idea' and they don't have much/any experience. This 'idea' is similar to what an affiliate manager would do, although they normally have a base salary plus commissions. But, you have to start somewhere.

      But, in my first post, I touch on not having experience as an affiliate and not bringing much to the table for a product owner. I also touched on making sure the product owner knows what you're offering/providing.
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  • Profile picture of the author GrowthMonger
    Hi Molzer, i don't think what your suggesting would be a good idea. Seems like you're a wet behind the ears newbie, no offense.

    Better you watch this free tips video on where to start with internet marketing. It's one the easiest to grasp out there and i actually got a few nuggets out of it myself, being the advanced marketer that i am.

    So let me know if this was of use to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author rhealy29
    The most obvious problem with this, ethical or legal issues aside, is that no product owner with half a brain is going to turn their product over to you to market for them without wanting to know at least a little bit about how you're doing it. The second they find out you've just uploaded it to Clickbank, or wherever, and how easy that is, why wouldn't they then just have it taken down and reupload it themselves? You'd be providing essentially zero value to them in exchange for your commission once they know what your method is.


    Another major problem is that I don't think there are a whole lot of people that just create digital products on a whim for a fun way to spend the weekend, with no intention of distributing them somehow. Anyone who has a digital product, and is interested in selling it, has probably already done some very basic research, which would have almost certainly turned up some information on the major affiliate marketplaces. As someone who "does not know how to do affiliate marketing", the odds are those digital product owners, whether they use affiliate marketplaces or not, probably already know more than you.

    It's good to think up creative ideas on what you can do at your current skill/knowledge level, but in this case, I think I have to agree with Kay. This comes off as more of a scheme that depends almost entirely on the product owners having essentially zero knowledge, and in reality doesn't really add much value. The second the product owners get a whif of what's going on, it's over.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPG19
    Do you think digital product owners don't know about the existence of affiliate platforms? If they haven't listed their products on any of this platforms it is probably for some reason. Joining affiliate networks would be probably something they already considered in the past.
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  • Profile picture of the author jonny deep
    Very well that is the trend, there have been many vendors doing so, they posted their products on sites like JVZOO, muncheyze ......, where there are many affiliater promoters and sell products help them
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    • Profile picture of the author pawandave
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      Your idea is great and it will work for sure but need to target those people who don't know about online world
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Question: Did you READ the thread before posting an 'answer'?

    t will work for sure
    Maybe you could explain to the OP HOW it would work...for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    How about developing a skill through diligent practice, building your friend network through being generous, solving a specific problem, growing your list and running with that idea? It has only worked for tens of millions of entrepreneurs
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  • Profile picture of the author davntt
    The idea is take your time and learn more. Take one course and work your face off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    If OP did get the product owner to agree with his idea, then there is nothing wrong with this idea.

    But the problem is things don't work out in real life as well as they look on paper.

    OP is trying to make some quick $$$ by leveraging someone else's product.

    Affiliate marketers do this all the time.

    But OP is trying to do this on the grand scale in hopes of cashing in beaucoup $$$ lol.

    First of all...

    If the product owner actually has a product of value...then most likely they have channels of selling already.

    Second...If there product isn't value based, then it will be hard to sell no matter what network you put it on.

    Third...The product owner isn't aware of affiliate networks?

    This I find hard to believe unless the product owner is as new as OP.

    In the end, the product owner would most likely put their product on the affiliate network themselves (if they weren't aware of affiliate marketing before) and cut OP out from the deal altogether.
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