I don't think it's realistic.

When you try and set and forget it too many things can go wrong. Also social media and list building are very important for anything long term these days.

It can be done but it all depends on what products/services you promote.
A high end product only needs a few sales to achieve your goal. If it's a
run of the mill niche that everybody else is doing then it will be difficult.
If you don't want to do social or e-mail marketing that is fine but your
traffic has to come from somewhere and SEO keeps changing making
it impractical to rely upon just that. I am certainly not trying to discourage
you because you can achieve your goal over time with diligent effort and
realistic expectations. Work your plan and be sure to offer lots of quality
content. That is so important.

This mentality worked in 2008. Now, you're competing against hundreds and thousands of incredibly talented people in just about every niche. The only way it works is if you somehow create a viral hit and have a funnel in place, but the odds of this happening are so incredibly slim you'd be better off pumping gas for money.

Well hey, at least I'm sort of grasping things if it USED to work ha.

Thank you for the advice!

No. Set and forget won't work (or for very long).

Things keep changing in the marketplace (and life).

If you want an ongoing income...you will have to keep working for it.

I had moreso meant "set and forget" as in- update once a month with a new short but targeted 1,000-2,000 word article.

I suppose I'm trying to be as efficient as possible. If I can do It once myself, I can scale with a couple of writers and a graphic designer and hunt keywords for a living- I assure you i'm not looking for the easy approach.

Shelf life is probably 6 months at most, unless I go viral?

Is that a fair general consensus so far?

It's just not realistic.

If you want to make $10K per month and work 4 hours per week.

You need to figure out how to make $10K per month consistently regardless of the time commitment. Then automate everything that can be automated or makes financial sense to automate. Hire VA(s) and train them to do the work that you can't automate.

Eventually, you should just be able to oversee the operation and get to your 4 hour work week.

Well.

My current plan is this-

I've got about 12k words of 100% original, optimized content split up into a nicely organized website. I plan on getting closer to 18-20k words, or about 15 pages, before I put it up. This way I can come out of the gate with a nice internal link structure, and link out to great resources.

EVERYTHING, and I mean everything, will be SEO optimized with over 40 underexploited and crazy high paying keywords in the same niche. (According to Google Keyword Planner)

As soon as I launch, I want to instantly be better than my competitor. At MINIMUM same level.

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Set and forget isn't really a good idea. A stream of revenue from a website is like a garden. If you want it to produce, you have to pay attention to it because the environment is constantly changing.

Even the best product/site requires tending, tweaking, adjustments. You might get moderate income out of it at first...but generally you'll see that income stream start dwindling after a while because you're not keeping things in order

you can outsource your task

You do not have to be better than competition and evergreen niches rarely need updated.

I know both these things from years of experience.

You need to serve a purpose, people will pay you for that and be happy as long as the content/product is decent.

Look at gardening, growing plants hasn't changed since the 1950s, here it is 2017 and people are still paying for that content (how to grow plants, etc...). That's an evergreen niche, rarely needs updated. BTW, DIY gardening is a multi-billion dollar industry, so there's money to be made in evergreen niches.

As they say adapt or die

In the 1950s people were not growing plants in completely controlled indoor environments under HID lights in Hydroponic systems.

So, bad example?

To set it up and forgot about it.
it doesn't work and it's disrespectful for clients.

After all the customer will all ways come from the point of view
of how does it help me? why do I need this in my life?

So you will need to keep and update the site all the time.
bring new articles that really give some good info.

and if you create subs you will earn customer for life. (if the content is good)
be this we are going back to list building. where you have a list of customer
that you provide them with some good content.

Hope that helps in some way.
Eden.

In this day and age Nathan, it seems like such an uphill battle to set it and forget it. Google,Social, heck, all over online, these sites beg me to be present, to connect and to create, to help, to serve, to practice my skills.

There would be a sliver of a possibility for success but you'd have to leverage like Tim Ferriss too, doing the most uncomfortable things that 0.00001% of the human population do. Hell; I write 2-5 guest posts daily, publish 2 posts weekly on my blog, read and comment on hundreds of blogs weekly, create a YT live, Facebook Live, Periscope live video daily, publish a podcast, have 3000 plus posts on Warrior, 115,000 views on my Quora answers, have written and published 260 guest posts on 2 sites *alone*, contribute on Steemit, Triberr, other various blogging tribes, work Twitter and FB and G Plus and LinkedIn, and I *still* am not leveraging myself near this guy's Universe LOL.....just because, to set it and forget it, it takes a willingness to do the stuff and be the person who has their muse, and it is highly uncomfortable to enter this space.

My suggestion? Position yourself for a bigger business, learn your craft, create and connection, get your networking hands dirty (it is fun, don't worry) and do as virtually every highly successful person does: mix leveraging and passivity with being hands on, and build a rocking business.

Nathan - I sure hope you do not let the naysayers discourage you.
Do your thing and do not ask for permission or opinions. There are
hundreds of formulas to online income. The fact of the matter is that
there are ugly outdated spammy niche websites raking in money all
day long, and so whatever you do will so much better. Your project
will be great and I hope you will post your results.

Interesting thinking but it is hard to believe the " Set & Forget " mentality can help anyone to achieve big target. If you see scientifically, there is no system in the world that can give output without any input. The same thing holds true for life also. Without constant proper inputs everything is going to die.

You need continuous efforts to sustain anything. That will work every time. But " Set & Forget " method is doubtful.

sorry mate, no much thing as set and forgot, still looking for free lunch without work?

i know you don't like social media, but i'm afraid these sites will stay there and will be our main connection.

have two options for you:
1. have another go with the social networking, try to provide values and get the network, let's connect!

2. if you prefer those blog type of website, you have to learn about seo and do lots of work on keywork research and linking. one method is doing guest blog ... sorry ... you just went back to the social connection again.

otherwise, you may just require a lot of capital that you can play big on paid traffic to those niche site, will it work out for you ?

If you want a passive income system which you will create once then forget about it and you will still be earning 5 figure per month from it, I suggest you try referral program promotion or monthly billing product promotion.

I think that you can`t ignore list building while you`re making five figures a month. As you know and said "Listbuilding is king", so for long run success you need to build your email list by involving in social media like Facebook and Youtube. No way I see It`s must have option, not choice.

Crappy sites banking money is one of the main reasons Google tweaks its algorithm 500 or 600 times per year. Papa G is paying millions of dollars for high end geeks (a term of affection) to make plans like yours NOT work.

Someone mentioned that your plan might have worked in 2008. I'd go along with that if they had said 1998.

Now, even if you do manage to rank a page on the first page of SERPs, you have a lot of clutter to cut through. You have the ads, the other organic listings, the suggested searches, the back and forward links, and even G's attempt to answer the query without leaving the result page to compete with.

As far as email marketing goes, it is definitely possible to set up a system of automated emails that do most of the heavy lifting for you, but these take time and market savvy to set up.

Once established, your main job is to keep attracting people into the front end (generating subscriptions). There are even ways to use leverage for this. For example, having a book available on Kindle, where you offer a bonus for getting the book (which requires an email). Put the offer early enough so it shows in the "Look Inside" and sample sections. Even if people don't buy the ebook immediately, a number will opt in to check you out. This lets you leverage Amazon's pre-existing traffic. Contrast that with trying to post enough on social media (like a FB page) to get reach or count on cutting through the clutter on a SERP page.

Heck, once you have a handle on your numbers, you may be able to pay affiliates a commission on subscriptions (a CPA type offer).

You may be able to build something that generates $10k with only a few hours a week, but the odds of hitting that right out of the gate are between slim and none. And slim doesn't look all that healthy.

I think there is no 'Set and Forget" business exists in the real world. But you can achieve your target by working 2 hrs per day. In my opinion you can buy an existing online business which is making approx $5000 profit per month .But you have to invest a lot of money to buy that type of business .

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Agreed. Even then, "going viral" is no guarantee of going profitable.

As I wrote in another thread, it is possible to send one email and make thousands of dollars seemingly out of thin air. But reaching the point where one can do that can take years of study and practice.

Again, I don't believe I said anything to the contrary.

I'd say it's not possible simply because if you are willing to work 4 hours a week there will always be someone willing to work 8 in the same niche that will crush you unfortunately my friend

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Alright guys.


Here is what I've learned so far from this thread to get the BEST CHANCES of making a 5 figure website like this-

Evergreen Niche (Information doesn't change) - Check
Provides a sorely needed resource - Check
Low Competition - Check
SUPER high priced CPC - Check
Buyers in this industry? - Big Time

The last detail I have not yet mentioned?

I believe my main competition is making 5 Figures a month with 4 hours of work a week (or less) already!

I know I can do better than the #1 result.

I guess we'll see what Google thinks, but I HAVE ranked pages before at #1, even though there was stiff competition.

P.S.- Any "success" from a "4 hour work week" would be because I've worked my *** off laying foundational knowledge.

All of this came from me researching for countless hours, as well as at this point 1000's of hours of "content creating" that I have done in the past.

Someone said "Prove these websites exist."

Well I'm looking at one right now, but its my competition, so no.

I tried to leave it alone, but remember you said this. Try not to get too triggered.

I'll attempt to make sure to include your name in my points.

Mike doesn't know how to make 5 figures a month off of 4 hours a week, because Mike thinks its a good idea to spend 10 hours a week commenting on a novices thread; telling the novice how stupid he is.

Mike hasn't done it, so its not possible, even though Mike admitted a success rate.

Mike misses the fact that i'm literally doing everything in this last quote, as well as tailoring my business plan around the excellent advice given by different warriors from this thread. INCLUDING HIS. Even if he is a ****

Mike feels public humiliation and demoralization is the best teaching method.

Right back at ya, buddy.

Well Content Marketing is the best way to go about things...i am able to deliver 5000 words content on a daily basis and earning four figures as of now but will be reaching five figures soon...an article spinner or content rewriter has made it all possible as you can see on my website

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you could create a real business and have top people run it for a % of the profits....whoooa. I have just discovered fire.

well....

If you really really really really want it...

and

if you really really really really believe in it

Then it will definately happen


I JUST wanted my twitter to get 100000 impressions in 24 hours
Now i got 234000



Yes you can !!

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I don't think it's possible without a list or you need to find another way to contact them regularly without overpaying.

Well certainly its not impossible. But as just already been said myriad number of factors depends in order to get leads and sales from it. So, it pretty damn near to impossible.

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