Buying articles from the Wayback Machine a good idea?

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Iv bought some articles from archivedownloader who claim to manually scrape content from the Wayback Machine. To be fair the quality is pretty good and passed Copyscape. Just wanted to know is buying deindexed content from the Wayback Machine a good idea? Cheers

I have asked this on other forums too.
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    You are buying stolen content. It is not from the wayback machine. the scraper is using the wayback machine to find and index it. Stolen content is stolen content.

    Have you run this through copyscape yourself. And, I do not mean the url in the free search, I mean purchased searches where you actually copy and paste the article and run it that way

    Write your own or hire someone to write it for you

    What do you think the answer is?

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    • Thank you for the reply. A lot of other people have mentioned similar things to you.. No I used the free search on Copyscape. I Would really like to know if Google would penalise people using deindexed content from the Wayback Machine? Or from a scraper?

      Cheers
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      • Profile picture of the author Gambino
        Originally Posted by Solicitor Search Engine View Post

        I Would really like to know if Google would penalise people using deindexed content from the Wayback Machine? Or from a scraper?
        You should be more concerned about the owner of the content coming back and suing the crap out of you and/or reporting your site for knowingly stealing their content.
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  • I see, but say if the website and domain expired a few years ago. What would be the circumstances then?

    The way I am looking at it is if a domain along with the website expired a while back, the owner possibly wouldn't care anymore?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Solicitor Search Engine View Post

      I see, but say if the website and domain expired a few years ago. What would be the circumstances then?

      The way I am looking at it is if a domain along with the website expired a while back, the owner possibly wouldn't care anymore?
      Sounds like someone trying to justify piracy.

      Copyright, at least in the USA, lasts for the author's lifetime plus 75 years.

      I have content that I pulled down years ago that I still have Google alerts set for. And I do still send out DMCA takedown notices on the content, with CC: to both the webhost and domain registrar.

      Here's a test for you. Ask the person selling the stolen articles if they'll cover you for any trouble you get into from using their stuff. I'm guessing you won't be able to hear the answer over the hysterical laughter.

      Even if the original owner doesn't care, you open yourself up to the vultures that will sue you for using copyrighted material even if they don't own the copyright.

      A Google penalty could be the least of your worries.

      The short answer to your original question is no, it's not a good idea.
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    • Profile picture of the author quadagon
      Originally Posted by Solicitor Search Engine View Post

      I see, but say if the website and domain expired a few years ago. What would be the circumstances then?
      There are a number if different circumstances that could have taken place:

      The owner might have just switched domain name

      A business may have gone out of business

      A business may have rebranded

      A business may have gone out of business but the assets sold to a third party.

      After you've determined which is the case you need to establish how the work was created and under what contract.

      Does the business own the copyright or is it still the property of the individual.

      Once you know all of this you can then start to have a guess of what the circumstances would be.

      In some cases you will be legally able to use the work but in the vast majority you won't.

      As with most of this type of thing consult a solicitor over the views of people on the internet.
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  • Profile picture of the author rhealy29
    That's a pretty big assumption to take such a risk on,

    Not worth it.
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  • Thanks guys for the replies, maybe I won't publish them after all!
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Maybe? Are you trying to establish a business, a continuous money stream or are you interested in a short-lived site?

      I have stuff you can find on the wayback machines on domains that I let expire. The stuff is still mine and if you put it up on your site, I sue you for. Why? Because it's my stuff and I did not say it's ok for you to use.

      You want to use my stuff, contact me.

      By that I mean, why don't you go through the wayback machine, find articles you like, find the owner, contact the owner, buy from the owner? I know, it takes work. Still, it's safe. If a safe stream of money is what you're after, shouldn't you use safe methods of creating it?

      Originally Posted by Solicitor Search Engine View Post

      Thanks guys for the replies, maybe I won't publish them after all!
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Solicitor Search Engine View Post

      Thanks guys for the replies, maybe I won't publish them after all!
      The smartest thing to do, no doubt . Just take out the word "maybe"
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisniel
    one word - No (Its a bad idea)
    If you are doing things mentioned below your website ranking's will decrease or your site gets penalized completely
    (1) Spun articles
    (2) Copied Content
    (3) Curated content with value addition content
    (4) Translated articles
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    Check for yourself
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Strange how people think passing a Copyscape search means Google doesn't have the content indexed.

    Copyscape is nothing compared to a Google search.
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  • Profile picture of the author megamind22
    Not a good idea bro cause even it passes copyscape that content is already known by Google even if its sold content . They are places you can get your own unique contents written for you like fiverr or iwriter so I suggest you get your owns content for you if you have a small budget that way you stand out for duplicates.

    Hope that helps
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  • Profile picture of the author asiabd2016
    In this case I would like to hire a freelancer from any freelancing market place. Then the freelancer will write for me a fresh content. It is better than Buying content. Thanks for your advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vsingh
    I don't think it will be a good idea. It could damage your google search ranking. It is better to hire some freelance writer to get quality content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    I guess (or hope) by now that you know...scraping, stealing or trying to profit from other people's hard efforts (even if they failed , quit etc) is just wrong.

    You have got to earn your results. Pay your dues ect !

    Or just forget this IM industry completely.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnVianny
    DO NOT WASTE TIME!

    If you use your time to write your own articles, buying at least plr, hire someone doing it for you....

    ...instead of what u done, and replying here about what u done....

    ISNT IT BETTER WORTH IT?
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    The bottom line is you should come up with your own content, regardless if you write it yourself or outside someone else to write it. If you do anything else, then you are looking for trouble.
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  • Profile picture of the author sanzida mim
    Looking up Copyscape it appears to be a plagiarism checker. Presumably they want to cheat on a paper or some shit rather than do the work themselves, and figure old versions of stuff that isn't easily searched for will make them less likely to get caught. Not sure what this has to do with beermoney unless they've got a site that pays for writing essays and they pay more than the cost of wherever they're buying from
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