Getting Real Human and Trustworthy Affordable Traffic

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Does anyone know how to get real affordable but reliable traffic? All I want to do is take an affiliate offer, one that is created by the advertiser that I know converts and just pay to run it and make a profit. All I find are either services that want $1000 to start service with them or the ones I can afford lie and give you bots and fake clicks.

Does anyone suggest a traffic source that is affordable and real? I have looked on GIG sites, mostly Fiverr and their traffic is the same. Big numbers but fake traffic. I know advertising is a numbers game but if you take an ad that has proven to convert, get 7000 clicks, at least one person would buy into it. So I have to assume I am getting crap traffic.

Need help in a very bad way, if I can't see this work then I am quitting. Have tried it for three years and hadn't made a dollar. So many lies, misinformation and scams. I just need one real person that can share the traffic secret...
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    Don't we all.

    C'mon, man, think. If it were that easy, everybody'd be doing it and it would not pay much.

    The thing you're missing, it's not the way you don't have, it's how to handle the way.

    Paying Google for adwords is a way that is guaranteed to get you traffic. If you know how to create and manage Adwords ads.

    Same for facebook.

    Same for your local newspaper.

    Same for direct mail.

    Same for ads on forums.

    Start at the beginning. Who's your ideal customer? If you know that, you know whether they're best reached online or offline, via facebook, a game forum, through their baraber, or whatever. Then, think about what makes them tick, what they want and why. Make up an ad/sales letter/postcard/website, whatever, and put it in front of them.

    Originally Posted by rdpshop View Post

    Does anyone know how to get real affordable but reliable traffic? All I want to do is take an affiliate offer, one that is created by the advertiser that I know converts and just pay to run it and make a profit. All I find are either services that want $1000 to start service with them or the ones I can afford lie and give you bots and fake clicks.

    Does anyone suggest a traffic source that is affordable and real? I have looked on GIG sites, mostly Fiverr and their traffic is the same. Big numbers but fake traffic. I know advertising is a numbers game but if you take an ad that has proven to convert, get 7000 clicks, at least one person would buy into it. So I have to assume I am getting crap traffic.

    Need help in a very bad way, if I can't see this work then I am quitting. Have tried it for three years and hadn't made a dollar. So many lies, misinformation and scams. I just need one real person that can share the traffic secret...
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    • Profile picture of the author gianbizz
      I always got most targeted traffic from Adwords than Facebook Ads, and Search Network Adwords is better than Display Network.
      Direct email is the best one too, I got huge targeted traffic, but also got few complaints, few of them judge it as spam, so I stop it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Originally Posted by rdpshop View Post

    Need help in a very bad way, if I can't see this work then I am quitting. Have tried it for three years and hadn't made a dollar. So many lies, misinformation and scams.
    What have you been doing for the last 3 years? Really, you haven't made a single dollar, or are you being sarcastic? Targeted paid advertising is the 1st and most obvious solution.

    Originally Posted by rdpshop View Post

    I just need one real person that can share the traffic secret...
    Luckily you have thousands of real people at your disposal here on warrior forum. All the good ones will tell you the same thing. And any other business that you conduct online will be the same dilemma.

    Don't let selling on Ebay and Amazon deceive you about how easy it is to run a business online.
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    • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
      I started a YouTube channel and got paid $1K to let a company run ads on it. I have made $100 on Amazon as an affiliate and not really sure how. I made maybe another $100 from an automotive niche and close to $100 on a romantic niche. But when you figure in that is all I made in 3 years, that is not even a penny a day.

      My problem is staying focused and I will be the first to admit it. But I am fixing to run out of money to live and I am a single full time dad with no help or family. I have to make this work and all I have asked of anyone is just to show me a method that will work..

      I got ripped on a course that took $450 of my money to show me how to make money online over 3 years ago. There was some good stuff in it and I walked away with that info but it wasn't quite complete. I have followed George Brown and that lead nowhere. Then Anthony Morrison who is the biggest lying ripoff artist known to man. Then a few others that went no where.

      Then I joined Wealthy Affiliate as they have a great reputation and they do offer solid training and some good benefits but their methods would take another 3 years to make maybe $500 a month. I need to make enough money to live on now.

      If someone would say that blogging is the best way, then I will find a way to make money to live on until I can get it really rolling but I am in a position right now that I can no longer waste time blogging if that isn't the way or as one guy had me getting on safelist and TE's clickng ads all day to get points so I can promote my ads to people that will never read them because they are clicking to get points.

      I need one method that works, proven works and I can learn that and get going with it. I am just tired of all the crap, the lies, the scams. I have watched Vick Strizheus do a live demo of how he took an affiliate offer, paid for traffic and made money and to me it should be about that simple but the place he bought traffic from is Jema and they are stupid and worthless, you can't even select what niche you are promoting to.

      So if someone could just say Hey, I have been doing this method for years and it makes money" then that could get me in the right direction and focused. I am just running out of time to try anymore stupid ways that do not work. I would just like to follow someone that is really successful at this and learn the right way..
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      • Yep.
        Blogging is the way to go.

        I am now blogging, but when I was starting out I learned a lot but spent a lot of money of course due to many mistakes (but this was worth it).

        You can start blogging while at the same time you are making money.

        The best way to make money while you are learning and making money at the same time is to invest in a done-for-you program and then promote it with Quora answers.

        I recommend to find questions related to your affiliate product and start giving away valuable information.

        If you still don't understand how to do this either do your research or contact me and I can show you what I am doing to make money online.

        I wish you good luck and much success!
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        • Originally Posted by provenbusinessmodels View Post

          Yep.
          Blogging is the way to go.

          I am now blogging, but when I was starting out I learned a lot but spent a lot of money of course due to many mistakes (but this was worth it).

          You can start blogging while at the same time you are making money.

          The best way to make money while you are learning and making money at the same time is to invest in a done-for-you program and then promote it with Quora answers.

          I recommend to find questions related to your affiliate product and start giving away valuable information.

          If you still don't understand how to do this either do your research or contact me and I can show you what I am doing to make money online.

          I wish you good luck and much success!

          Common dude, this post died a year ago
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      • If you can get in touch with me, maybe I can help you.
        I know how bad it sucks but I am very experienced when it comes to making money online and spotting scammers.

        I wish you good luck and much success!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I know advertising is a numbers game
    No, it isn't.

    Advertising is a psychological game. Putting the right offer, presented the right way, in front of the right eyeballs at the right time.

    if you take an ad that has proven to convert, get 7000 clicks, at least one person would buy into it.
    This is flawed thinking and is the cause of a great deal of spam. If they are not laser targeted you are just spinning your wheels.

    Paying Google for adwords is a way that is guaranteed to get you traffic. If you know how to create and manage Adwords ads.

    Same for facebook.

    Same for your local newspaper.

    Same for direct mail.

    Same for ads on forums
    I will add Bingads.

    A little bit of high-quality traffic is worth more than a bunch of "cheap" bot clicks.

    How much have you spent on "cheap" traffic? Just imagine if you'd spent that where you know you will get real, interested visitors, like the sources above.

    Brent
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    • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
      Brent,

      I've been using Bing Ads for over five years now and love it. Not as much traffic or clicks as Google, but still good, at much more inexpensive.

      You are spot on about advertising. Find the right offer for a HUNGRY audience with the money to buy what you are offering. It's not a numbers game if you have a plan, target in on the right audience and give them what they want.

      For years, I spent time online trying to sell stuff I liked, but didn't excite other people. Offer people what they want and they will line up to buy it.
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    • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
      I did pay for targeted traffic and I have used Facebook just to watch my money do nothing so until someone can show me that FB is a proven thing, won't be using them again. Google also has wasted my money as well, so I am looking for a traffic source that is for a fact top notch that works.

      I have made my own sales and landing pages and used ones that came from the seller of the product that are tried and proven not to fail. Paid FB and Google and it failed, so tell me, what is the best way?

      I am still learning and probably like everyone in this, it will always be a learning experience, so I have no doubt that FB and Google must work in someway or they would be out of business. So if I am using a proven ad that converts and using two traffic sources that are not supposed to fail, then what piece am I missing?

      That is where I am stuck at. I need a real traffic source that for a fact works and the process or method to make it work. I know sales are never guaranteed but when you are handed an ad that makes money for everyone else, then what am I doing wrong?
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      • You better try email marketing.

        You to may be a good fit for a done-for-you program where you invest in someone's program and you just send traffic to the link that you are given.

        I recommend you only get involved in programs that let you build your mailing list while they are growing theirs and let you at that same time to make money with it.

        A recommended traffic source is Solo Ads or Ezines.

        Since people in these traffic sources are already interested in joining email lists, they would gladly join yours too and if the product you are promoting is great, you will make money from while at the same time you build a mailing list.

        I wish you good luck and much success!

        Have additional questions, I will be happy to help for sure. You can follow me on social media or visit my website.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Griffin
    Try clickonomy.com. I've purchased close to 2000 clicks there and got 600 subscribers and $100 in sales from a transition page (1-2% conversion). Personal Finance niche. Not profitable yet, but actual income. You'll have to decide if it's affordable, but they are real subscribers and they bought stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kate H Smith
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    I have super successful clients, and they do paid advertising. But, believe it or not, their kind of paid advertising is very different. For example,

    1 - They already have connection; they use those connections and get real, human targeted traffic. It is same like what we see in big launches where Eben Pagan and Frank Kern promote themselves through other popular marketers.

    2 - They are already popular. They have made connections offline as well. They have something to show through webinars and etc. And, this also floods them with targeted.

    3 - There is another kind that counts on Google. However, they are niche specific. If I say, they are super niche specific, it would be utterly correct. So, there is no competition, they get traffic immediately, and they earn big within a few days too.

    But, I have those customers as well who count on niche specific websites and YouTube. Especially, YouTube is kind of like a passive way for generating targeted traffic. The more videos you have, the more you get traffic, all day, everyday. It is like a set and forget method.

    It all depends on you... There are lots of other ways too of course to generate massive, targeted traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
      Being in a niche with little to no competition is great, IF there is a hungry audience. I am in the military niche. I provide mentoring to Army Officers in the National Guard and Army Reserve (I am a former Major).

      I have no competition in my niche. I do pretty well with it, but they aren't a HUNGRY crowd. I'm sure if I spent the time to research other sub-niches, I could find something else with little to no competition, but with much more potential. Food for thought.

      What do you think?
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      • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
        I think you are so right on the Niche theory. When I first started in this, I went with Automotive and my YouTube channel that has made a little money is Automotive. But then I have had everyone tell me I need to stick with the Make Money Online niche because that is what it is going to take to make money.

        I think that no matter your niche, you have to know how to get that targeted audience in front of what you are promoting and offering and I guess I am just a big bone head or something when it comes to that because I am not getting noticed anywhere.

        My YouTube video on How To Fix Peeling Clear Coat pops up on page one close to the top of Google. I have offers links in my descriptions, you would think out of millions of views that I would make a steady $100 a week or at least a month but I don't. What the hell am I missing or doing wrong?
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    • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
      So far YouTube has been the most beneficial for me than anything else. I have seriously considered putting more time into that as many people claim the best results through video than anything else.. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnVianny
    Your problem ISN'T TRAFFIC.

    It's that you HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD anything about "building a business".

    Driving traffic to a cold offer, using someone's affiliate link can, on facebook, adwords etc, get you banned, on other poor conversion.

    You have to think of the business seriously again.

    Start identifying a niche: provide a solution. Write or outsource some report, AND Build Your Email List.

    In the thank you page you can put some affiliate offer YOU TRUST and TRIED BEFORE, but the money is in the back-end.

    You have to grow your list steadly, nurture your leads and create an engagement with them, sharing who's you, build your reputation.

    AND THEN selling for money.

    Your focus is like the opportunity seeker: the favorite guy for scammers.

    Think and STUDY the PROCCESS.

    If you need money to pay the bills, go and get a job first.
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    • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
      I have 4 websites I run seriously as a business, mostly blogging and it makes nothing. It is setup to collect emails so I can build a list and nothing. NEED REAL HUMAN TRAFFIC to make that happen. As far as taking a cold affiliate link, I can pay Google to run it so I don't think I will get banned since they take your money to run one, plus this ad I was running has and is been ran through Google now.

      I am not looking to do an unethical practice, cheat people, MLM or get rich quick. I am looking to find a real traffic source that will provide real targeted people to my sites so that I can build my businesses. Google, FB and a few others get me no results but suck all my money up. I recently tried running that proven ad just to test who can get me results. So when I see 7000 clicks and get not one person interested, leads me to believe that my traffic sources are not doing their job.

      Or maybe I am not setting it up correctly, I am still learning and I know that I am missing a step but I do know enough and have enough integrity not to do stupid things. Maybe I am too nice or just don't have enough of a seller's instinct to sell anything. All I want is one traffic source that someone is currently using that they trust and can tell me it is OK to use them.
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  • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
    The highest converting traffic I've found are from people who visit my blog, listen to my podcasts, or watch my videos on Youtube first, and then go to my affiliate link. The content marketing strategy is still my favorite, although it can take a while to get results.

    Another great source of targeted traffic is to do a join venture with someone who has a large email list, and has a great relationship with their list. If people like, know and trust them, they will check out the offer they send their followers on your behalf.

    I hope that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
      That actually does help and is something I would like to learn. I have read on this but can't find a good method or even how to find others to venture with. But I do like this method alot.. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    Getting reliable traffic is a skill that you develop over time. It's not about desperately searching for a magical traffic source that will take you to the promised land where there are only sunshine and rainbows.

    I don't think you have a problem with traffic. I think your mindset if the real problem.

    Stop looking for a highly converting traffic source that is cheap.

    Instead start reading threads by using the search feature above on paid traffic.

    This will give you a basic idea on how traffic works.
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    • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
      Good point Rory. It took me about five years to really learn and master traffic, conversions and online sales. It is a learned skill. I spent a little time looking for fu-fu dust, trying to find the secret, but there isn't one. You have to get in the trenches, make a ton of mistakes, learn from them, and press on.
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    • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
      You are right, I don't fully understand how traffic works but I am not looking for magic, I am looking for traffic sources that don't lie and take money and offer crap. Or how to get the big ones like FB and Google to work.

      This is why I got on here asking for help, I took a proven for a fact ad that was created and promoted by the creator. Makes many sells a minute with it, I wanted to test traffic sources, paid Google which this ad is already running on and doing well. Paid FB and both got nothing.

      So I would like to find a traffic source that is reliable that might even work with me to help me get an ad going. I just want to see one ad go out and at least break even. Not see 7000 clicks and not one person interested, that is a bit sickening...
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  • Profile picture of the author DeciBoy13
    I would say it's all about your level of education my dude.

    Just as DABK said - if it were that easy, everyone would be doing it.

    Digital Marketing is a Skill. People become really good at it because the take it seriously and the don't just "try it out"!

    It's like anything else. You must hone your craft and be in harmony with what you're doing...

    otherwise, you'll be in and out like a revolving door.
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    • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
      One of the reasons MLM, blogging, affiliate marketing and make money online have such a high turnover is because people join and think it will be fast, free or easy. Like you said, it is a learned skill, AKA specialized knowledge.

      I have many entrepreneurial friends, in many different fields, and all of them took minimum two to five years to build up their specialized knowledge and build a successful business.

      Online marketing is no different. Treat it like a profession, learn everything you can, and get better every single day. Over a period of time the compound effect will kick in and you will become an expert.

      I hope that helps.
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      • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
        It does a lot, that is what I needed to hear really. All the places I have sought help either through forums or more so through places like Wealthy Affiliate, no one will tell you how long it takes and makes it sound like you can create a blog, get the right keywords and you will be making crap loads of money and flooded with traffic in no time. I am glad to hear that others took up to 5 years to get into the groove with it.

        I also think I will go back to concentrating on my automotive niche as I have well over 40 years experience in mechanics and auto body. I really do have a natural instinct to help others so I though it could be a win win.

        I just have no support around me, I am a single full time dad with no help or family. The people I do know think that internet marketing is stupid and a scam and no one can make money from it. I need to make it work as I need the freedom to raise my child. Traditional jobs just don't work for me trying to raise a child on my own. This seemed the best idea.. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
      I agree with that 100% and think that is my biggest issue. In trying to learn and get better at this and up my education I have had too many idiot know it all's try and tell me different and change my niche and change what I originally wanted to do. I wanted to be in the Automotive niche, create blog post to help others and do my YouTube "How To" videos. But out of them not turning real money, or building my list, I doubted myself. And now I am unfocused and unsure and got myself lost.
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  • Profile picture of the author DURABLEOILCOM
    The best traffic is PPC traffic. It allows you to target your desired Market and you only pay when they click your ads. Try Bing Ads, Google Adwords, LinkedIn Ads, and Facebook Ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cathy Cone
    Hi,
    may I ask if you're sending traffic directly on affiliate offer? Because that usually doesn't work. You should have at least your own landing page setup if not the whole funnel. The reason why is because there are many affiliates that promote the same offer as you do. So how are you different? Why should someone buy something from you?

    When it comes to the traffic, start with other people's list or reaching out influencers. That's the way to get fast, targeted traffic and at the same time test your landing page/funnel.

    When your LP is optimized go with PPC traffic.

    Having landing page is also important for collecting emails. Once you have someone's email that person can become your lifetime customers if you know what you're doing. Provide your subscribers with value, and they will be glad to spend money with you.

    Advice: Never give up! You don't know how close your breakthrough is.
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    • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
      Thanks, i am trying not to give up. I have been making my own landing pages and using split testing. I use Instabuilder for creating squeeze, landing and sales pages as it also has split testing built in it. But I let this supposed mentor ask me why am I going with my own page when it is better to go with one that is proven to work, so I tried it and of course it didn't.

      Maybe what I need to know is where is the best place to test my ads that is cheap to get an idea of what ad might convert before paying the bigger services?
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by rdpshop View Post

    Does anyone know how to get real affordable but reliable traffic? All I want to do is take an affiliate offer, one that is created by the advertiser that I know converts and just pay to run it and make a profit. All I find are either services that want $1000 to start service with them or the ones I can afford lie and give you bots and fake clicks.
    Ask yourself this...if a vendor has an ad that he can buy traffic to and convert it cold, why does he need affiliates? Answer - he doesn't.

    The whole point of affiliate marketing, from the vendor's viewpoint, is to reach and engage with potential buyers he can't reach any other way. If you're talking about digital products, why would any sane vendor offer 50%, 75% or even 100% commissions if all he had to do was run a few PPC ads to accomplish the same thing?

    Originally Posted by rdpshop View Post

    Does anyone suggest a traffic source that is affordable and real? I have looked on GIG sites, mostly Fiverr and their traffic is the same. Big numbers but fake traffic. I know advertising is a numbers game but if you take an ad that has proven to convert, get 7000 clicks, at least one person would buy into it. So I have to assume I am getting crap traffic.
    Advertising is a numbers game, but you have to use the right numbers.

    That "proven to convert" ad does not exist in a vacuum. Even if you accept the notion of the ad converting, said proof involves both the audience to whom it was shown and the context it was shown in.

    You can't just throw random "traffic" at an ad and expect to get results. "Spammer math" doesn't work for anyone except those who sell spamming services.

    Originally Posted by rdpshop View Post

    Need help in a very bad way, if I can't see this work then I am quitting. Have tried it for three years and hadn't made a dollar. So many lies, misinformation and scams. I just need one real person that can share the traffic secret...
    If you need sending random cold traffic to a vendor swipe at a profit to work, throw in the towel now.

    If you want the real "secret", go back and read Brent's post again. Repeat until it sinks in.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    I've been promoting affiliate / CPA offers for almost 17 years.

    I drive traffic by acquiring fresh / targeted 3rd party email data, which is data that users have shown an interest in a specific vertical (niche) and have given permission to receive messages from third parties. You get the opt-in record for all the users and it's 100% can-spam compliant.

    This isn't a solution for everyone because 3rd party data doesn't exist for all niches or someone's niche is too sub and the data isn't targeted enough.

    Also, 3rd party data typically isn't going to be as responsive as a highly targeted opt-in list, so to compensate for this you want to work with higher volume. This really isn't a big deal because it's much cheaper and scalable than traditional list building.

    The key to making it work long term is to always collect your opens / clickers, segment and remove unresponsive users. That way you are essentially converting the data from quantity to quality (most responsive users). Then promote other offers on the back-end to those most responsive users.

    The above has worked extremely well for me, as I promote PPL (pay per lead...lead generation) offers, which there is an abundance of targeted data for. Also, with PPL offers there is no credit card / purchase required to complete an offer. All a user has to do is fill out a form, so the conversion rates are typically much higher compared to offers that require a sale to be made.

    So basically I'm monetizing the data using PPL offers because they offer the path of least resistance to generating conversions and converting the data to cash producing assets.

    Something to consider.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dropppp
      How do U get 3rd party data?
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  • Profile picture of the author webmarke
    Your entire attitude is going to leave you broke and frustrated. You are trying to take a shortcut.

    The shortcut that you are trying to take by direct linking to the program that you want to make sales on will save you time and effort, but you will not make many sales.

    You need to rethink your plan.

    You need to build a list in your niche, build a relationship with this niche (by sending them quality content that actually helps them), and then only promote products to this list that will actually help them.

    I am not surprise that you sent 7000 clicks to an offer and did not get 1 sale. The nature of most traffic that you are going to be able to generate or buy (excluding payper click that involves using the product name as the title of the add) is not going to buy a product from a page that they stumbled upon by accident.

    There are far too many scams on the internet for most people to buy from a link that they found could.

    You would be better off creating a review blog and send people to that review blog, then trying to direct link to an affiliate offer.

    Direct linking = failure
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by rdpshop;11199494?

    All I want to do is take an affiliate offer, one that is created by the advertiser that I know converts and just pay to run it and make a profit.
    That would be nice and something we all want.

    But unfortunately life does not work that way. Plus, "cold" traffic even if you get Sales is not always good. Sometimes you need to build rapport with prospects over time and if you do it properly you can get a Customer for Life
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  • Profile picture of the author Dropppp
    "Cold" traffic even if you get Sales is not always good. What? FYI> All sales R Good....WoW Really?
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  • I use MLSP, Lead Lightning its free to use as a genterator, and if you want to make 85% commissions than its only $7.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dropppp
    Clearly, if U received 7K clicks and 0% conversions something is going terribly wrong. Either the traffic is #SHITE (IE. people R just being funneled to your site and they have no interest in your products, or the clicks may be bots/click farms). The other problem could be the products/services U are attempting to sell. U have to ascertain wherein lies the problem. It would greatly benefit U if U would inform us of 'what U are selling' and 'who did U purchase (how much did U pay) your traffic from'.
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    • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
      Fair question and a part of it is too long to go into detail but to summarize it fast as a I can. I have been mostly blogging with no success, so I went to Wealthy Affiliate. They have great training but most of it I already knew.

      Met many people there and two of them claiming to be a success, which I believe as I know their websites and they all are well known. They became mentors and at first gave great advice. Then they had me getting on all the stupid waste of time viral mailers and TE's that to me should be wiped off the face of the earth.

      When I complained about that this method will not work, one of them wanted me to take an ad that is proven to work. It is a sales page for Leased Ad Space, I have seen the ad around, I know it converts and he showed me his proof of success and how it works.

      So I followed their instructions and didn't make a squeeze page, just used the ad as it was since it was proven to convert. I of course cloaked the link with my own domain plus that gave my tracking.

      I paid FB and I paid a suggested seller on Fiverr. Today I checked it and from both sources this ad has well over 12K clicks. If both of these sources were real humans, then out of 12K clicks, at least one human being would have had to sign up even if for free but still nothing.

      The Fiverr seller I can see using bots or something but this isn't the first time I used FB and got nothing results. Everyone praises FB, how it is awesome traffic. This would actually be my 5th time of using them and I have never got anything from them.

      Now maybe I need to take a class on how to use them but the niche for Leased Ad Space is a pretty easy one to target my audience, I am not sure what other criteria I needed to include for my FB traffic. I geographically selected the US and 3 other English speaking countries.

      I often think it is just me, quick story: I have gone fishing here and there my whole life. To this day I have never caught a fish. One time I went out with a friend on his pontoon boat. He was on one side and me on the other. He was throwing fish in his bucket left and right, I was catching nothing. He felt bad so we swapped sides, he went onto reeling them in as I just sat there. He finally handed me his rod and even cast it for me and put it in my hands and still nothing. So if that isn't a sign of a curse or dark cloud, I don't know what is....
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      • Profile picture of the author Dropppp
        this isn't the first time I used FB and got nothing results. Everyone praises FB, how it is awesome traffic. This would actually be my 5th time of using them and I have never got anything from them.
        I am very surprised no one on Warrior Forum has informed U that the 'Affiliate Model' is Dead. Very few sites make $500-$1,000 a month. Amazon is canceling their Affiliate Program (October 27, 2017) and Kim Komando has said it pays very little. The 'Affiliate Model ' is only one revenue stream along w/ Ad Sense and Sales. It should never be viewed as primary revenue.
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        • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
          Amazon isn't dropping their Affiliate Program, they are dropping the Astore front. Affiliate still get their affiliate links but only to each item. The Astore was your own store front hosted by Amazon.

          They said there is no benefit to having it as most people are using Amazon plugins and eCommerce pages and themes. I am an Amazon Affiliate and have all this info in emails.

          If the Affiliate model is dead, does this mean Clickbank, CJ, JVZoo and all the others will be shutting down.

          I mean you are either going to make your own product, have an affilaite offer or start drop shipping. There pretty much isn't anything left to sell or manner that I know of.

          So what is the current model today?
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          • Profile picture of the author Dropppp
            If the Affiliate model is dead, does this mean Clickbank, CJ, JVZoo and all the others will be shutting down.
            The choice is yours. Keep listening to idiots that it took 5 D*** Years' to finally get Seo. Really? Someone would post some #SHITE like that? How hard is it to pick up a SEO book? How hard is it to go down and talk to a 'Marketing Professor' @ the Community College/University in ya town? How hard is it to go to one of the book signing events the best internet marketing geniuses are giving and ask questions? How hard is it to listen to a Youtube E-Commerce Seminar... FYI> U can send ( 'Marketing Questions') emails to whomever U want. No excuse not to learn and execute what U learned in 2017. If U do not succeed it is on U. rdpshop U said U have Auto experience, I will give U a website in that niche arena. Case study.....Hint Hint If U PM. I'm done. Drop the Mic.....
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by Dropppp View Post

              The choice is yours. Keep listening to idiots that it took 5 D*** Years' to finally get Seo. Really? Someone would post some #SHITE like that? How hard is it to pick up a SEO book? How hard is it to go down and talk to a 'Marketing Professor' @ the Community College/University in ya town? How hard is it to go to one of the book signing events the best internet marketing geniuses are giving and ask questions? How hard is it to listen to a Youtube E-Commerce Seminar... FYI> U can send ( 'Marketing Questions') emails to whomever U want. No excuse not to learn and execute what U learned in 2017. If U do not succeed it is on U. rdpshop U said U have Auto experience, I will give U a website in that niche arena. Case study.....Hint Hint If U PM. I'm done. Drop the Mic.....
              Quick hint...

              Asking people to PM you in a thread is viewed as self promotion, and not allowed. Just PM him your offer one on one.

              The only reason I didn't delete the post already is because the rest of it makes a legitimate point about taking initiative to lean.
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              • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
                Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

                Quick hint...

                Asking people to PM you in a thread is viewed as self promotion, and not allowed. Just PM him your offer one on one.

                The only reason I didn't delete the post already is because the rest of it makes a legitimate point about taking initiative to lean.
                Must of been self promotion because I seem to be getting offers in my inbox now by different people... Go figure...
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                • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                  Originally Posted by rdpshop View Post

                  Must of been self promotion because I seem to be getting offers in my inbox now by different people... Go figure...
                  I get a bunch of offers, and if they are related to something I've posted, I scan them and either do something or delete them. If they're spam, I report them as such - and then delete them.

                  Folks, my suggestion to one specific poster should not be confused with carte blanche permission for PM spamming.

                  If you have something specific that may help a poster, send them a message saying so. Reference the specific post, and then ask if they want further contact. Yes, and you can go ahead. No, or no answer at all, do not send the offer anyway.
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        • Affiliate marketing is not dead but yes, It should never be viewed as primary revenue.
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        Originally Posted by rdpshop View Post

        Fair question and a part of it is too long to go into detail but to summarize it fast as a I can. I have been mostly blogging with no success, so I went to Wealthy Affiliate. They have great training but most of it I already knew.

        Met many people there and two of them claiming to be a success, which I believe as I know their websites and they all are well known. They became mentors and at first gave great advice. Then they had me getting on all the stupid waste of time viral mailers and TE's that to me should be wiped off the face of the earth.

        When I complained about that this method will not work, one of them wanted me to take an ad that is proven to work. It is a sales page for Leased Ad Space, I have seen the ad around, I know it converts and he showed me his proof of success and how it works.

        So I followed their instructions and didn't make a squeeze page, just used the ad as it was since it was proven to convert. I of course cloaked the link with my own domain plus that gave my tracking.

        I paid FB and I paid a suggested seller on Fiverr. Today I checked it and from both sources this ad has well over 12K clicks. If both of these sources were real humans, then out of 12K clicks, at least one human being would have had to sign up even if for free but still nothing.

        The Fiverr seller I can see using bots or something but this isn't the first time I used FB and got nothing results. Everyone praises FB, how it is awesome traffic. This would actually be my 5th time of using them and I have never got anything from them.

        Now maybe I need to take a class on how to use them but the niche for Leased Ad Space is a pretty easy one to target my audience, I am not sure what other criteria I needed to include for my FB traffic. I geographically selected the US and 3 other English speaking countries.

        I often think it is just me, quick story: I have gone fishing here and there my whole life. To this day I have never caught a fish. One time I went out with a friend on his pontoon boat. He was on one side and me on the other. He was throwing fish in his bucket left and right, I was catching nothing. He felt bad so we swapped sides, he went onto reeling them in as I just sat there. He finally handed me his rod and even cast it for me and put it in my hands and still nothing. So if that isn't a sign of a curse or dark cloud, I don't know what is....
        beware of fiverr, lots of junk, but its good for pics or banners or ebook covers and stuff like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Quick tip...

    When replying to a specific post, hit the "Quote" button before clicking reply so we can tell who/what you are replying to.

    If you are going to reply to multiple posts, hit the "Multiquote" button instead. Do this for each post you want to reply to. When you hit the Reply button, you'll get one neat post with quotes from each post you selected, so you can post multiple replies in a single post.

    This will make you a little easier to follow.
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    • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
      Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

      Quick tip...

      When replying to a specific post, hit the "Quote" button before clicking reply so we can tell who/what you are replying to.

      If you are going to reply to multiple posts, hit the "Multiquote" button instead. Do this for each post you want to reply to. When you hit the Reply button, you'll get one neat post with quotes from each post you selected, so you can post multiple replies in a single post.

      This will make you a little easier to follow.
      I wasn't in Classic view, I didn't have a quote button and I am still not sure if I am doing this right. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, first time I have used the forum ...
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  • Profile picture of the author korekuping
    you should try remarketing if you're trying facebook, like: users who watched the previous video ad more then 50%, target them on your next ad...very effective telling you from experience
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    • Profile picture of the author rdpshop
      Originally Posted by korekuping View Post

      you should try remarketing if you're trying facebook, like: users who watched the previous video ad more then 50%, target them on your next ad...very effective telling you from experience
      I am not sure how to do this, where can I learn how this is done?
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  • Profile picture of the author TheTrafficOutlet
    For someone who has been serving traffic to customers since 2010 all I can say is it is not always the traffic providers who are at fault.

    Real traffic providers such as ourself provide the traffic but you need to have a very engaging site for that traffic to work.

    Being honest many have reported little sales or affiliate etc with our traffic but some have reported success with google adsense earning. This simply shows that visitors are more likely surf a new site they come across click a few ads here and there. Getting them to opt in or purchase can be a tough task.

    Just take a look at you and me for instance when we come across a new site what are we likely to do ? hit the x lol or have a quick glance etc .... see where im coming from ? To get real converting traffic you need to have a very good trusted landing page that will engage with the traffic.

    Anyway best of luck.

    Mr S.Ahmed.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    All traffic is not created equal. You definitely get what you pay for.

    Solo ads are a great place to start BUT you have to have something new and fresh to offer the people. It can't just be the same old boring offer they are used to seeing 10 times a day.

    If you are promoting an offer that you know has been around a long time and some of your audience is likely to have seen it already, then it's best to pre-frame it with something new and exciting... something they haven't seen.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      All traffic is not created equal. You definitely get what you pay for.

      Solo ads are a great place to start BUT you have to have something new and fresh to offer the people. It can't just be the same old boring offer they are used to seeing 10 times a day.

      If you are promoting an offer that you know has been around a long time and some of your audience is likely to have seen it already, then it's best to pre-frame it with something new and exciting... something they haven't seen.
      good post, but after spending thousands on solo ads, you can get serious JUNK> so you have to be a little careful.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by WillR View Post

        All traffic is not created equal. You definitely get what you pay for.

        Solo ads are a great place to start BUT you have to have something new and fresh to offer the people. It can't just be the same old boring offer they are used to seeing 10 times a day.

        If you are promoting an offer that you know has been around a long time and some of your audience is likely to have seen it already, then it's best to pre-frame it with something new and exciting... something they haven't seen.
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        good post, but after spending thousands on solo ads, you can get serious JUNK> so you have to be a little careful.

        My way of "something new and fresh to offer the people" and "you can get serious JUNK> so you have to be a little careful" is to subsidize or compliment the original offer with a product that I created. Works best if you have an existing agreement with the owner of the original offer.


        Offline Examples: The Original Offer (TOO) vs. The Complimentary Offer (TCO):

        TOO: Organic Food
        TCO: Free Range Chicken
        Target Market: Restaurants and Hotels
        Secondary Market: Weekend Produce Markets


        Online Examples:
        TOO: WordPress Theme
        TCO: WordPress Theme with Premium Plug-in


        The idea is to capitalize on assets that you already have..
        Source in-demand products > identify the market leaders > offer them a complimentary product that you own > come to an agreement on a deal they cannot refuse. (Lots of ins and outs.)


        Keep in mind that product owners are always seeking ways to increase profits. Most market leaders know that owning the lion's share of the market is what actually makes them a market leader. They also know that their competition is always looking for ways to be the top market leader. Essentially, if you make them realize that your product will work for them or you can make it work for their competition.. gives you the edge. And the edge is the bottom line!


        Advertising wise, the market leader(s) usually own the advertising rights, i.e. media rights for their product and you would be wise to own the media rights to your own product "before" you approach market leaders. When done right, they will pay to advertise your own product, albeit in conjunction with their own and the end result is FREE ADVERTISING on the coattails of a market leaders! One word of caution.. don't let them hire you.. make it a joint venture
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by rdpshop View Post

    Does anyone know how to get real affordable but reliable traffic? All I want to do is take an affiliate offer, one that is created by the advertiser that I know converts and just pay to run it and make a profit. All I find are either services that want $1000 to start service with them or the ones I can afford lie and give you bots and fake clicks.

    Does anyone suggest a traffic source that is affordable and real? I have looked on GIG sites, mostly Fiverr and their traffic is the same. Big numbers but fake traffic. I know advertising is a numbers game but if you take an ad that has proven to convert, get 7000 clicks, at least one person would buy into it. So I have to assume I am getting crap traffic.

    Need help in a very bad way, if I can't see this work then I am quitting. Have tried it for three years and hadn't made a dollar. So many lies, misinformation and scams. I just need one real person that can share the traffic secret...



    You're focused on cheap traffic and easy money so you'll obviously find junk/scams.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Marcell
    Why don't you just build an email list and promote your affiliate products to the list?

    Don't over complicate things. Send traffic from a source like Facebook to your landing page and start building your most important asset as an internet marketer.

    I would definitely stay away from low quality traffic sources like Fiverr gigs and solo ads. It's not about the quantity of people you have seeing your offer but the quality.

    Remember that.

    It'll save you so much time and money when buying traffic. But my main advice here is to focus on learning how to run profitable Facebook ads and get really good at email marketing.

    That's all you should be focusing on right now.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Chris Marcell View Post

      Why don't you just build an email list and promote your affiliate products to the list?

      Don't over complicate things. Send traffic from a source like Facebook to your landing page and start building your most important asset as an internet marketer.

      I would definitely stay away from low quality traffic sources like Fiverr gigs and solo ads. It's not about the quantity of people you have seeing your offer but the quality.

      Remember that.

      It'll save you so much time and money when buying traffic. But my main advice here is to focus on learning how to run profitable Facebook ads and get really good at email marketing.

      That's all you should be focusing on right now.
      a good post.

      I only succeeded when i tested small, and upscaled anyting that started working.

      Push the pain, and use lots of curiosity. That is how you will make better ads, and get them to pull out the old credit card.

      Some great advice in this thread, have you tried it yet?
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  • Take the next 30 days, pick one traffic platform and become an expert at it. There are literally 100s of quality traffic sources, but each one requires study and patience to learn.

    Read everything you can, spend a few days watching videos about it, spend time on the platform looking at all of the buttons, labels, filters, screens, ins and outs, how it works, etc.

    Any platform can give you good quality traffic.

    I've used Bing Ads for the past 6 months. I'm about 50% proficient, but let me tell you, that 50% is predictable and quality traffic of actual people searching for stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mills marketer
    Hey guys if you have someone trustable please pm me with the name
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    • Originally Posted by Mills marketer View Post

      Hey guys if you have someone trustable please pm me with the name

      Trustable for what ? I Know a lot of trustworthy people, why should I pm you - this post makes no sense - PLUS you pulled up a year DEAD thread for this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Judey
    There are lots of ways to get quality traffic online.

    Such as Google Ads, YouTube Ads, Facebook Ads etc

    But before you begin buying traffic you should learn how to properly advertise unless you'll lose lots of money on ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author EugeneEv
    Have someone promoted Yoonla before?
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by EugeneEv View Post

      Have someone promoted Yoonla before?
      Yes, I have. The problem is, many of the leads get declined even if you only promote to tier 1 countries because Yoonla's business model is based on their members needing to upgrade to Elite membership which involves joining GetResponse and Yahoo Small Business Hosting which is how Yoonla earn the money to pay people $4 a lead and $30 per Elite upgrade.

      So you see '$4 per lead' with Yoonla and think it sounds great, but you don't actually earn that because of the amount of declined leads. If you are using paid traffic to promote Yoonla, its very hard to profit from it unless you can get a good rate of Elite upgrades.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Spend the next few years of your life creating helpful content and making genuine friends with top folks in your niche. Best way to get human, authentic traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author martworld
    If you have money, then Paid advertising is the way to go, if not, then choose free advertising such as blog comments, FB groups and other social media platforms.
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  • Profile picture of the author kmnkumaran
    I have had good success in promoting dropshipping and facebook..i had to stop as i live in another country and i had only paypal option. paypal shut me down ...

    but for usa users its a very good model and requires less investment

    have you tried IGOR solo ads ??
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  • Quality traffic will guarantee you good and decent profit. Need to mention, that there are different sources of traffic, however everything depends on theme of website, where you are going to direct the traffic and your target audience. The most valuable sources are Adwords traffic, social media traffic, e-mail traffic, display traffic, which can be connected with Blog and placing ads there, etc. If there is Bitcoin & cryptocurrency theme - please pay attention that you will have problems with ads and accounts, because the crypto promotion prohibited there. So, before you are thinking referring to traffic - please find out more about existing restrictions to this or that subject.
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  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    So you see '$4 per lead' with Yoonla and think it sounds great, but you don't actually earn that because of the amount of declined leads
    Yep. It's a newbie trap.
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