What will happen to Propel Media?

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When Google kills the pop under?

The new feature to Google Chrome will allow it to block ads that are obtrusive. This will include ones that auto-play videos with sound, as well as pop-up ads and others.

The decision to block some ads for Google Chrome users is the company's own way of cleaning up the internet. It also has a tool available for websites and ad providers to alert them if their ads will be blocked.

What do you think will happen?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    What do you think will happen?
    People will adapt (or not) just like with every other change that has come before and will come in the future.

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    • Profile picture of the author CpvGuru
      Do you think there is a viable way to bypass the Google filter or will pops move back to .exe based?

      .EXE is a tough road to hoe.
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      • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
        Hi C,

        Nope.

        Google does run the show.

        I have used pop up opt in forms on and off. A bit different than pop up ads, but these could be the way out too. Who knows?

        Adapt, change, go with the flow and remember; if you share value and build your friend network daily, you will succeed online, no matter what search engines or social networks make big changes.

        You cannot fail by sticking to the fundamentals, persistently, and you won't worry much changes in Google, which shake out other IMers who desperately or greedily take short cuts.

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        • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
          Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

          Hi C,

          Nope.

          Google does run the show.
          I strongly disagree. In fact, I'm surprised you drank the Kool-Aid. I read most of your posts and it seems like you think for yourself. I'm surprised you would allow yourself to believe that Google "runs the show." Google is just one company on a huge internet. In the whole scheme of things, they are just a small piece of a big pie.

          I've made hundreds of thousands of dollars online in the last 10 years and never once relied on Google to earn any of it.

          If they "run the show," someone forgot to tell me about it.

          Oh, I take that back. I have a Gmail account.

          Other than that, Google doesn't run sh*t for me.

          I guess if you rely on a blog for your main method of online income, then I guess you have to bow down to them. That's a shame. I would never do it because I bow down to nobody (that's human, anyway).
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          • Profile picture of the author DeanJames
            Google doesn't run the show but they would like to.

            Basing a business entirely around the whims of Google is a HUGE mistake.

            Relying on a corporate entity who doesn't care about you or your family is a HUGE mistake.

            I'm on the same page as Chris here.

            If Google is a conduit for additional business that's fine, but it should never be the whole enchilada and if anyone reading this is relying entirely on search engine traffic, one day it could very well all come crashing down for you overnight.
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  • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
    I would find other avenues to make a living off the net and not just one system , seen to many time before warriors come on here upset and angry that the big G has killed there way of living and now they dont know what to do!

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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    I use PopAds to promote CPA with lots of success and they allow for super targeting. There is still a ton of other browsers, devices, etc, that you can target.

    I have a special system I use because I belong to a CPA network where all I have to do is promote one link (some people might know what I I'm referring to) and the CPA network rotates the offers to fit the visitor based on country, browser, device, etc.

    I only use popunder traffic with this system. The point I'm trying to make is Google might think they own the internet but they don't and never will.

    Whatever they do I'll always adapt and keep on clocking cash.

    I was told by my original mentor almost 10 years ago to NEVER base any aspect of my business on Google because once they decide that they aren't getting a big enough cut they change the rules on you and slam the door in your face.

    I thank my mentor all the time for warning me against ever trusting Google with any aspect of my business.

    I don't need them for anything. I don't need them for traffic, or advertising, or AdSense, or ANYTHING! And it feels GREAT!

    As for Propel Media, they'll be just fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by CpvGuru View Post

    When Google kills the pop under?

    The new feature to Google Chrome will allow it to block ads that are obtrusive. This will include ones that auto-play videos with sound, as well as pop-up ads and others.

    The decision to block some ads for Google Chrome users is the company's own way of cleaning up the internet. It also has a tool available for websites and ad providers to alert them if their ads will be blocked.

    What do you think will happen?
    I think they will adapt. Either that or they will share the same fate as leadimpact.
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    Easy kids....
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    • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
      Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

      Easy kids....
      I'm sorry. I don't mean to be rude, and it's nothing personal against Ryan. I like Ryan and think he's a good guy.

      Google is just a touchy subject for me and it gets me hot under the collar.

      Lately, I've been spending a lot of time working with cryptocurrency and people have such a different attitude.

      There is absolutely no censorship, and it's completely decentralized.

      I've been posting a lot on SteemIt, and now they also have a new video platform called Dtube. You can post whatever you like with no worry of it being taken down. It just feels so free compared to huge companies like Google & Facebook who want to monitor, control, and censor everything. They even go so far as to try and tell you what you should like!

      I've just begun to see that the Internet is becoming something it wasn't meant to be, and it's kind of scary. It also scares me that so many other people just don't see it.

      There are a handful of large companies taking over the Internet. The same thing is happening to the Internet that has happened to the distribution of wealth. Pretty soon, 1% of the Internet is going to control the other 99%.

      I've been doing a lot of reading about the people who were involved in the creation of the Internet, and the vision they had for it. People like Tim Berners-Lee. They definitely did not envision it becoming what it's become today.

      I mean, think about it for a second. In the last 10 years alone, just think about how many people have been financially ruined by changes that Google made. Changes that they really had NO RIGHT to make.

      When a few small companies get too powerful, bad things always happen, and it's no different than what's happening now with the Internet.

      Sure, change has to happen, and I completely accept that, but honestly, I liked the Internet better 10 years ago.

      Ryan, I apologize if I offended you, but like I said, i'm getting really passionate about this subject.

      I think it's been my recent immersion into the crypto world and listening to guys like Jeff Berwick (Dollar Vigilante). These people make a lot of sense, and man it's really liberating.

      I really do feel like the next big thing is crypto, and not just Bitcoin. There are new coins coming out all the time, and some of them are doing fantastic. For instance, I turned a $100 investment in Steem into $2700 in just 8 months. Ethereum and Litecoin are also two real hot cryptos that are looking real good right now.

      So, sorry if I came off as abrasive, but I think I may be starting to become a Crypro-Anarchist.
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  • Profile picture of the author DeanJames
    Totally agree with you Chris. Apps on phones have also shrunk what people 'see' as being the internet. There are literally people out there now that think Amazon, Facebook, Google and YouTube pretty much IS the internet.

    What people spend the majority of their time on becomes their reality in terms of how and what they use it for.

    Corporates are consolidating the heck out of the whole thing and people are consuming more than ever before in a passive way (i.e. watching YT videos etc and those companies are using people's behavior to keep them engaged and on their platform).

    Obviously as a marketer you can take advantage of that when you know where people are spending lots of time, but the thing I have never liked is how a 3rd party platform censors what they want, when they want and decimates people's livelihoods in the process.

    There are people that think they have a business when all they actually have is a cashflow.

    So for example, if you're a YT superstar (for example) with no other platform to leverage off (i.e. a list/your own site etc), you're only in business as long as your channel remains in place. In fact it's not a business, it's a cashflow that is dependent on a 3rd party platform so if they suddenly decide you're not a good fit for their business and shut you down, you're back to square one.

    Back in the Adsense 'crazy' days I read about one guy who went from $70,000 a month down to $0.00 because he was closed down.

    The trick, is to funnel that traffic into assets you do control and/or invest in actual real assets so if the merry go round does stop, you're not ruined.

    Contingency and building your own business/asset base is crucial.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
      Originally Posted by DeanJames View Post

      Totally agree with you Chris. Apps on phones have also shrunk what people 'see' as being the internet. There are literally people out there now that think Amazon, Facebook, Google and YouTube pretty much IS the internet.

      What people spend the majority of their time on becomes their reality in terms of how and what they use it for.

      Corporates are consolidating the heck out of the whole thing and people are consuming more than ever before in a passive way (i.e. watching YT videos etc and those companies are using people's behavior to keep them engaged and on their platform).

      Obviously as a marketer you can take advantage of that when you know where people are spending lots of time, but the thing I have never liked is how a 3rd party platform censors what they want, when they want and decimates people's livelihoods in the process.

      There are people that think they have a business when all they actually have is a cashflow.

      So for example, if you're a YT superstar (for example) with no other platform to leverage off (i.e. a list/your own site etc), you're only in business as long as your channel remains in place. In fact it's not a business, it's a cashflow that is dependent on a 3rd party platform so if they suddenly decide you're not a good fit for their business and shut you down, you're back to square one.

      Back in the Adsense 'crazy' days I read about one guy who went from $70,000 a month down to $0.00 because he was closed down.

      The trick, is to funnel that traffic into assets you do control and/or invest in actual real assets so if the merry go round does stop, you're not ruined.

      Contingency and building your own business/asset base is crucial.
      I learned early on not to trust any third party company with my business.

      Sure, you need to use services like hosting, autoresponders, payment processors, etc, but you should never put all your eggs in one basket.

      I have contingency plans set up for anything that might happen. If any company decides they want to try and rip cash from my pockets, in a matter of less than a couple of hours I can be back up and running and not skip a beat.

      Another thing people like to try and do is blame the poor small business owner when things happen. They say things like "you must have broken their TOS somehow," or, "maybe you should have read their TOS better."

      Well guess what? You can follow their TOS to the letter but when you use their services the fact is you agree that they can terminate their relationship with you at any time for any reason they choose. What's more, they don't have to tell you why. So when you hear about a big company destroying someone's livelihood at the push of a button, don't always assume it's because that person broke any rules.

      The bottom line is you need to always look out for yourself and always have a backup plan.

      I wasn't a huge fan of article directories back in the day, but there were hundreds, if not thousands of people that were making a good living from them using AdSense. Google came along and in one fell swoop destroyed just about all of them.

      There are a couple still hanging on, like Ezine Articles, but they are just a shell of what they once were.

      Not only did they kill all those businesses, they killed an income and traffic source for the tens of thousands who were submitting good articles every day.

      They claim it was to make their user experience better, but the only real difference I see is that most of the top rankings are now YouTube videos, which we all know is owned by Google.

      Let's be clear here. They don't do anything with "our" best interest or experience in mind. They do it for their own bottom line. And that's fine. They are a "for profit" company. But don't come out and say that it's all for your users when you know damn well it's not.

      Anyway, enough ranting.

      I'll close that subject by saying don't be a sheep, be a shepherd. Don't buy into everything they say without thinking for yourself and looking at other points of view.

      Like I said earlier, I'm really excited about cryptocurrency. There is a TON of money to be made in it, and no big company or government agency to tell you what you can and can't say or do. I'm hoping it stays like that forever, but I know it probably won't. That's why now is the time to jump in and grab that cash.
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  • Profile picture of the author DeanJames
    Ezine Articles was once a viable method for getting search engine traffic from Google and there was a time when Google could not get enough of them. Indeed, there are a few marketers that built their entire business around this as a traffic source.

    Google owns YouTube so it's no small coincidence these videos are getting a 'leg up' in their own search engine results and the way I see it, video marketing is currently where article marketing was a few years ago. The only difference this time is that the asset itself is owned by the corporate entity so there's no reason why the good times will stop rolling anytime soon.

    All this crap about user experience is more about increasing bottom line profits.

    It's the same about marketplaces stopping users from including links to external sources so it's supposedly safer. What it's really about is stopping leakage from the platform so the user remains dependent upon it and the company increases their bottom line.

    You'll notice most platforms that rely on a percentage cut of the business fiercely protect that by stopping people from leveraging any kind of business asset outside of it, thereby stifling that persons opportunity for growth outside of the platform in any way, shape or form unless they are very creative about it. In my opinion the least they should allow is that user to build up a list so they can communicate with customers and allow that user to own the asset but they know in doing that the user would be less reliant on their platform so they don't make it easy for that to be achieved.

    I could rant on all day about this and how unfair it is on the 'little guy' but I will stop there and get off my soapbox.
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