Your working how freakin long ?

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I have read several post and replies on here of people working on their online business 10 hours plus a day .

My question is .... what the heck are you doing .


Are you cranking out your own programs every day ?

Although this is just an opinion, I can't see anyone really working 10 hours straight on any aspect of internet marketing .

When I am getting ready to launch a new product I might have 10 or 15 hours in a high end product . This is very rare .

I spend a couple of hours a day driving traffic . Even this is not every day .

Ask yourself are you really working that many hours ?

Starring at the screen .... does not count

Logging into the WF for hours at a time .... does not count .

Same goes for you tube , face book, and twitter .

I am as bad as the next guy for sitting in front of a screen and screwing off but this is not work.

Work is (at least to me ) something that produces results for my business while at the same time not being particularity enjoyable .

I am not calling anyone a liar . There is no disrespect intended . I really want to know what is taking so freakin long .

Edit: Since this post has came back around (funny how that happens online) I want to explain a little .

I am not talking about the people that are making money and being productive . As long as your ROI is justified ... go for it . As a matter of fact if it is not justified ... really nothing to me .... go for it .

I was just really wondering how you see these post with people working 16 hours a day and saying they are not making any money .
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    Did you stop to think that some people might have larger businesses that require more attention and involvement?...

    Some projects require a few hours, some require weeks, months and years of solid focus... time spent on work is only wasted if it is counter-productive to your end goals.

    Work to me is something that is productive in my business and is largely enjoyable, the moment I stop enjoying it.. I'll stop doing it.

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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

      Did you stop to think that some people might have larger businesses that require more attention and involvement?...

      Some projects require a few hours, some require weeks, months and years of solid focus... time spent on work is only wasted if it is counter-productive to your end goals.

      Work to me is something that is productive in my business and is largely enjoyable, the moment I stop enjoying it.. I'll stop doing it.

      Peace

      Jay
      Most people that have businesses that big are not doing a lot of the work themselves .

      This is not exactly what I was referring to . I see people on here all the time saying they are working 10, 12 , 16 hours a day and are about to give up because they are not making any money . I was just wondering how they could put that much time into something and not see anything out of it .

      Thanks for the reply jay . As usual you have come up with a valid point That my tiny brain could not wrap around .
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      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

        Most people that have businesses that big are not doing a lot of the work themselves .
        I do much more in my business than I ever expected I would when it was this big. My outsourcing bill is huge, but I still do plenty for myself... because I enjoy it

        This is not exactly what I was referring to .
        Understood I get what you are talkin' about now....

        Thanks for the reply jay . As usual you have come up with a valid point That my tiny brain could not wrap around .
        My pleasure.. err... I think

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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
          Uuumm,

          I have to outsource a little more...

          Here I was thinking that by outsourcing my last two projects that I saved
          a little time...Nope! I started another project! I tend to use the time I save
          outsourcing to allow me more time to create projects that I can outsource
          and then the cycle continues... Damn you John Taylor for that advise! :p j/k

          Best damn advise I ever received!

          I'll continue to do this the same way till the snowball is big enough to roll
          down hill all by it's self.

          Troy, It's not the fact that many put too much time into their businesses.
          It's the fact that they want more than just their fare share...Greedy
          *******s...lol

          Work hard now while you still can and reap the rewards later while
          allowing yourself and family to enjoy the way of life you've created!

          Have a Great Day!
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  • Profile picture of the author winebuddy
    my most recent product took about 3 weeks of 6+ hours a day to get fully ready for prime time - and even then I am still tweaking it.

    Sometimes I DO work 10 hours straight on a product.

    I have also sat down and whipped out a $7 eBook in 2 hours but that is not my norm. I prefer higher end, higher content filled products that over deliver and the time requirement is much higher.

    Forgot to add: like Jay - I like doing it
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      Originally Posted by winebuddy View Post

      my most recent product took about 3 weeks of 6+ hours a day to get fully ready for prime time - and even then I am still tweaking it.

      Sometimes I DO work 10 hours straight on a product.

      I have also sat down and whipped out a $7 eBook in 2 hours but that is not my norm. I prefer higher end, higher content filled products that over deliver and the time requirement is much higher.

      Forgot to add: like Jay - I like doing it
      I have a product I am getting ready to launch that I have compiled for over two years . If I had spent all my time on it I could have knocked it out a lot quicker .

      The problem with this is , I make my living online . If I had worked on nothing else and it bombs , I would have to get one of those job thingies for the fact that I let my business go.

      The majority of the people, I see on here, is trying to make their first buck and would be tickled to death with a few hundred a week.

      I can average about $400 a day driving traffic for two hours a day . Work on a new product for a couple of hours a day and play with my kids and their momma the rest of the time .

      I commend you for putting out quality products . It is good to see someone who cares enough about their stuff to put the extra in . I am just saying that if those that are working the hours and not seeing the desired results would get a system down and stick to it , they would start seeing the cash flow in .
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

        I can average about $400 a day driving traffic for two hours a day . Work on a new product for a couple of hours a day and play with my kids and their momma the rest of the time .
        I am building a multi million dollar business. I am glad you are happy making $400 a day. Not everyone is. Not only that but some of us do enjoy what we do. Please don't think everyone is "happy" to have your life. I hate pompous posts like this that assume we are all looking for the same things in life.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rich Struck
          Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

          I am building a multi million dollar business. I am glad you are happy making $400 a day. Not everyone is. Not only that but some of us do enjoy what we do. Please don't think everyone is "happy" to have your life. I hate pompous posts like this that assume we are all looking for the same things in life.
          Re-read your post and then come back and tell us who is being pompous.
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          • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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            Originally Posted by Rich Struck View Post

            Re-read your post and then come back and tell us who is being pompous.
            Posts like yours is why a lot of people, who know what they are doing, stop coming to this forum.
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            • Profile picture of the author Rich Struck
              Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

              Posts like yours is why a lot of people, who know what they are doing, stop coming to this forum.
              To the contrary, posts like yours are what chase people away.
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              • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                Originally Posted by Rich Struck View Post

                To the contrary, posts like yours are what chase people away.
                Your right Rich. You really put me in my place. Thanks for that.
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        • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
          Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

          I am building a multi million dollar business. I am glad you are happy making $400 a day. Not everyone is. Not only that but some of us do enjoy what we do. Please don't think everyone is "happy" to have your life. I hate pompous posts like this that assume we are all looking for the same things in life.
          Seriously Thomas :confused::confused::confused:

          Pompous posts come in quite a few varieties, obviously.

          Just saying...

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          • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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            Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

            Seriously Thomas :confused::confused::confused:

            Pompous posts come in quite a few varieties, obviously.

            Just saying...

            KJ
            Your right. I should just deal with people putting their noses down at us who work hard because we want more than them.

            How pompous of me. :confused::confused:
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            • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
              Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

              Your right. I should just deal with people putting their noses down at us who work hard because we want more than them.

              How pompous of me. :confused::confused:
              Ok, now I see where you're coming from. You had me totally confused there at first.

              I put a lot of hours in everyday myself. Not the least of which is we have a 1-800 number that needs to be answered from 9am til 9pm.

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        • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
          Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

          I am building a multi million dollar business. I am glad you are happy making $400 a day. Not everyone is. Not only that but some of us do enjoy what we do. Please don't think everyone is "happy" to have your life. I hate pompous posts like this that assume we are all looking for the same things in life.
          I think I stated I was making $400 a day from two hours of driving traffic . Didn't say this was all I was making . I was just stating that this is what keeps food on the table and a place to put the table while I do work on my other projects .

          As far as assuming anyone would want my life .... Some could wake up to it in the morning and think they were in heaven. Some would jump out the window .

          I wish you the best of luck in your multi million dollar venture .
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          • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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            Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

            I think I stated I was making $400 a day from two hours of driving traffic . Didn't say this was all I was making . I was just stating that this is what keeps food on the table and a place to put the table while I do work on my other projects .

            As far as assuming anyone would want my life .... Some could wake up to it in the morning and think they were in heaven. Some would jump out the window .

            I wish you the best of luck in your multi million dollar venture .
            Troy, there is more to business than driving traffic.

            I live off the internet myself. It is all about cashflow. Sure, if you want to stay at $400 a day than great for you. I don't but than again I have always thought big. Sometimes you have to put in a lot of hours to get there. It isn't a bad thing and shouldn't be looked down upon.

            You may want to read Eric Louviere's (sp) posts he did recently. I don't know of any people that made a lot of money by working 4 hours a day.
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            • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
              Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

              Troy, there is more to business than driving traffic.

              I live off the internet myself. It is all about cashflow. Sure, if you want to stay at $400 a day than great for you. I don't but than again I have always thought big. Sometimes you have to put in a lot of hours to get there. It isn't a bad thing and shouldn't be looked down upon.

              You may want to read Eric Louviere's (sp) posts he did recently. I don't know of any people that made a lot of money by working 4 hours a day.
              I was in no way trying to put down hard work. If you took it that way then I apologize .

              Once again I wish you all the best .
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              • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

                I was in no way trying to put down hard work. If you took it that way then I apologize .

                Once again I wish you all the best .
                Don't worry Troy. I apologize for misreading your posts. I have a bad cold and the cold sweats may have screwed up my perception.

                I now understand what you are talking about and people do tend to waste a lot more time than they should.
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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

              I don't know of any people that made a lot of money by working 4 hours a day.
              Thousands do it every single day... It depends upon your business model and the type of site you are running.

              I have a few clients that make $20,000+ a month through CPA and only work a few hours a day.

              James
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              • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                Thousands do it every single day... It depends upon your business model and the type of site you are running.

                I have a few clients that make $20,000+ a month through CPA and only work a few hours a day.

                James
                Are you trying to tell me they learned how cpa marketing and built up a $20k a month business on only a hours a day?

                How long from the learning stages to them making that type of money working only a few hours a day?

                I can see once the business is established but not starting out.
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                • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                  Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                  Are you trying to tell me they learned how cpa marketing and built up a $20k a month business on only a hours a day?

                  How long from the learning stages to them making that type of money working only a few hours a day?

                  I can see once the business is established but not starting out.
                  That is exactly what I am telling you ... You need to realize Thomas that not everybody does things the same way and sometimes doing things different from the fold is better for some people.

                  Yes I can tell you honestly that I have clients that built a complete business on a few hours a day working. I have one that went to college, had after school sports, and still built a business making $20,000+ a month on CPA alone and only took a few months.

                  Trust me there are many business models that will allow you to only work a few hours a day and make huge amounts of money. It's called providing solutions to an already hungry crowd that does not require you to babysit your business.

                  As for me I choose to work 16 - 18 hours a day, I do not have to do it at all.. I love what I do and thus why I work on my business..

                  James
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                  • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                    Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                    That is exactly what I am telling you ... You need to realize Thomas that not everybody does things the same way and sometimes doing things different from the fold is better for some people.

                    Yes I can tell you honestly that I have clients that built a complete business on a few hours a day working. I have one that went to college, had after school sports, and still built a business making $20,000+ a month on CPA alone and only took a few months.

                    Trust me there are many business models that will allow you to only work a few hours a day and make huge amounts of money. It's called providing solutions to an already hungry crowd that does not require you to babysit your business.

                    As for me I choose to work 16 - 18 hours a day, I do not have to do it at all.. I love what I do and thus why I work on my business..

                    James
                    Gee thanks for the education James. I never knew that stuff. Just kidding man.

                    I don't believe that is normal by any stretch. I would bet he had experience in other portions of marketing on the internet. Please let me know because that is awesome for him to go from complete newb to making 20k a month working only a couple of hours a day.
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                    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                      Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                      Gee thanks for the education James. I never knew that stuff. Just kidding man.

                      I don't believe that is normal by any stretch. I would bet he had experience in other portions of marketing on the internet. Please let me know because that is awesome for him to go from complete newb to making 20k a month working only a couple of hours a day.
                      Actually they know very little about marketing and still know very little 1/2 million dollars later ... As I said it is the business model that creates that income. Some choose to work smart while others choose to work hard. Nothing wrong with either way, as Erik posted above it is what makes YOU feel that comfort of the success as YOU define it.

                      Normal or not I know thousands that do it, so it may not be normal to one person while others it is very normal. It is not always about being smart about marketing but being smart about running a business.

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          • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
            I didn't see the OP as being pompous, although I can see how it could be misinterpreted. It's a valid question: if people are really spending those kinds of hours and aren't seeing a decent return, then obviously they're doing something wrong. Or they're really surfing the web for most of that time and just think they're working.
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            • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
              Originally Posted by KenStrong View Post

              I didn't see the OP as being pompous, although I can see how it could be misinterpreted. It's a valid question: if people are really spending those kinds of hours and aren't seeing a decent return, then obviously they're doing something wrong. Or they're really surfing the web for most of that time and just think they're working.
              Now see. If I had communicated my thoughts in this manner , I would not have churned up this hornets nest .

              I really didn't mean to
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        • Profile picture of the author LegitIncomes
          Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

          I am building a multi million dollar business. I am glad you are happy making $400 a day. Not everyone is. Not only that but some of us do enjoy what we do. Please don't think everyone is "happy" to have your life. I hate pompous posts like this that assume we are all looking for the same things in life.
          $400 day is almost $150,000 per year.
          Or, almost 3X the median annual household income in the US.

          To Troy, I say congrats on a job well done!

          You've got probably 99% of all Warriors beat in terms of income (even if you can't top Thomas and his multi million dollar business).
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  • Profile picture of the author NightWriter
    I'm still trying to figure it all out - plus writing articles, ebooks - reading everything I can get my hands on. I put in about 12 hours straight from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. yesterday. Plus some idiots woke me up playing their loud music next door, so I researched for about two more hours before waking this a.m. and starting all over again.

    Not to whine or anything, but, just stating a fact: In my case, I've experienced a series of tragedies right out of a horror movie since last year, so I work in order to keep my mind on something else a lot of the time - otherwise I'm complete wreckage.
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      Originally Posted by NightWriter View Post

      I'm still trying to figure it all out - plus writing articles, ebooks - reading everything I can get my hands on. I put in about 12 hours straight from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. yesterday. Plus some idiots woke me up playing their loud music next door, so I researched for about two more hours before waking this a.m. and starting all over again.

      Not to whine or anything, but, just stating a fact: In my case, I've experienced a series of tragedies right out of a horror movie since last year, so I work in order to keep my mind on something else a lot of the time - otherwise I'm complete wreckage.

      I hate to hear about the events of the last year . I have been known to post a matter one way and it comes out differently than the intention .

      I am not saying I have anywhere near all the answers but anytime you need help on anything i can help with , feel free to PM me
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  • Profile picture of the author winebuddy
    crap - I forgot where I put the popcorn
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  • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
    I don't look at it from the standpoint of how many hours I work. I look at it from the standpoint of how much stuff I get done. When I am working I lose track of time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin J Foy
      We have only been at it a short time and I sometimes spent 8-10 hrs in front of the screen but I am doing alot of learning watching webinars or training videos. I would count them as work because if you don't learn what to do you won't succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    I work 16 - 18 hours a day 7 days a week online .. Nothing wrong with that but like Jay posted above .. I love what I do..

    I take off a day every now and then but not often...

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author DogScout
      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

      I work 16 - 18 hours a day 7 days a week online .. Nothing wrong with that but like Jay posted above .. I love what I do..

      I take off a day every now and then but not often...

      James
      Me as well, though I spend way too much time on this forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

      I work 16 - 18 hours a day 7 days a week online .. Nothing wrong with that but like Jay posted above .. I love what I do..

      I take off a day every now and then but not often...

      James
      ...and his wife hasn't yelled at him yet...impressive, James! Mine would shoot me if I did that. Although sometimes it IS hard to step away.
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      • Profile picture of the author bobsstuff
        FUNNY! As I was reading this thread my wife was on her computer at this site:
        Frank Robert Dixon - 3 pictures An artist's website. The artist is my son's art teacher.

        Here are two quotes from his "WORD" art. It fits this thread.

        "I took these two quotes from his site
        "I stuggle much because I do little.
        If I do much I struggle little."


        "I need move from sit and stare to dream and dare."
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        • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
          I'm just starting out so I work for 12 or more hours straight. Sometimes I get distracted, but anyway the last few months I'm all about Internet Marketing. I sleep IM, I eat IM, I think IM. :p
          I'm studying internet marketing and right now I've got my site up and running and is my only concern driving traffic and get the whole thing to convert well. It's hard, but I feel I have to do this. In some way I like it. I like the freedom and enjoy spending time behind the computer. My goal is to create a great future for myself and my family.
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          • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
            As per my user title, I still feel I'm in the apprenticeship phase of IM so I spend a large amount of my day on it. If I had to break it down though, in reality I'm not sure actual work done would add up to much more than 6 hours a day on average. I'm gradually building it up to 8 hours, and maybe eventually getting to 12 hours. For the most part, I enjoy it, but I've not yet reached my income targets so I need to keep putting in the hours every single day
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

        ...and his wife hasn't yelled at him yet...impressive, James! Mine would shoot me if I did that. Although sometimes it IS hard to step away.
        Oh yeah she has ...lol But hey, I am the king of my castle...

        Yeah she is not looking while I type this...

        James
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Brite
    Personally i 'screw off' a whole lot more than i should!

    Since hiring my full time workers they have really proven to me actually how much time i do spend not doing anything constructive and that helps my business grow and puts more money in my back pocket at the end of the month.

    Since then ive been working alot harder and got alot more thing's done but it shouldn't have taken this long to change.

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  • Profile picture of the author danjensen
    Hi Troy,
    I'm in the process of setting up my IM business and hope to be in your position. Just wondered if you had advice on not spending hours reading through all the information available?
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    • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
      Originally Posted by danjensen View Post

      Hi Troy,
      I'm in the process of setting up my IM business and hope to be in your position. Just wondered if you had advice on not spending hours reading through all the information available?
      My advice would be to learn to practice a little basic time/project management. In other words, you have to be your own boss allocating your work time according to a strict schedule.

      For example, you know how long it will take you to compose a sales email, create a landing page and so forth. You schedule this time and only spend your time working on this task, no goofing off because you're working for a mean boss, yourself. You can take a break during longer tasks but try to break down your tasks into at least 4-8 hour chunks. I usually do 30 minute to 1 hour tasks myself unless I'm working on a larger software project but everyone has their own work pace. I also suggest making the tasks well defined and not overly broad. This is more manageable for most people.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

    I have read several post and replies on here of people working on their online business 10 hours plus a day .

    My question is .... what the heck are you doing .

    Are you cranking out your own programs every day ?

    Although this is just an opinion, I can't see anyone really working 10 hours straight on any aspect of internet marketing .

    Logging into the WF for hours at a time .... does not count .

    Work is (at least to me ) something that produces results for my business while at the same time not being particularity enjoyable .
    I work a good ten hrs a day. I build sites, I do research on products I'm interested in, and yes, the Warrior Forum is a productive activity for me. I get traffic and sales from the Warrior Forum as well as ideas and info. I write content and create products.

    I enjoy my work so spending a lot of time doing it is not difficult for me. I like what I do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Guys,

    Some of us work harder, other smarter, and others simply do nothing.

    I am a worker.

    I work Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays from 9 o'clock till i get bored. Some days it's just 6 hours while other days it's a massive 16 hours to get things done on schedule. And I work too during weekends if I get a couple free hours.

    I love what I do, this is not "The Work". Well, it's my work, but not work as some people see it.

    BUT Developing Websites and graphic design for clients takes me several hours per day. And it's stuff I DON'T outsource. It's a good pay, you bet, but it takes time and personal effort. Same for meetings or photo shoots. It's not hard work, but heck, I need to be there. That I can't and won't outsource.

    As for IM, automation is paying bit time here, I use it whenever I can. And outsource too, especially written content. I spend some time here cause automation + outsource makes it possible. Otherwise I'll be doing it by myself.

    P.S.: Tuesdays ,Thursdays and Saturday morning are surf days.

    Fernando
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  • Profile picture of the author mark z
    Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

    Logging into the WF for hours at a time .... does not count .
    It depends of your point of view.
    Every successful business requires deep research and continuous improvement. Without being familiar with the market, proven techniques and available new approaches/methods even best IMer would be determined to failure. So you have to have eye on the ground.
    If it results as improvement in your business, well ... yes - it is the part of the job.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim Symonds
    I blew my arms out working 16 hour days for 3 years when I started online.

    Then I realized I needed to become a program owner, and let the affiliates do the work.

    Now I have a reasonable balance in work and play.

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  • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
    Some people work over 16 hours every day. I was wondering... do you still have a social life or go and do something fun outside your home/office?
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by KatyaSenina View Post

      Some people work over 16 hours every day. I was wondering... do you still have a social life or go and do something fun outside your home/office?
      A Life, What's That ???

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
        Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

        A Life, What's That ???

        James
        hahaha very funny :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel E Taylor
    If you're trying to build an empire and you're
    in the business for the love of it IE
    Russell Brunson, John Reese, Eben Pegan, ETC...

    Then you're going to have to put in alot more
    than 8 hours per day.

    Because there is always more to create.

    I'm in productive mode, so I rise early, and sleep
    late workign on my business.

    But 2 months out of the summer I did a meditation
    retreat and didn't do anything in my business really.

    So it just depends on what you're trying to accomplish.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
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    Work hard while you are young.

    Play hard while you are young.

    Spread wide when middle age.

    Get old Then Die!! :p

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    • Profile picture of the author AndrewHansen
      It's not about the number of hours, it's about your level of CHOICE in the matter.

      If you worked 16 hours yesterday because you HAD to... you've got a job.

      If you worked 16 hours yesterday because you CHOSE to and WANTED to... you've got a business that's giving you some extra options for how you live your life... choices that the majority of people wake up in the morning without even the possibility of being able to make.

      My 2c

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      • Profile picture of the author jelelg
        $400 a day would be awesome! I will get there but being a mother of four young kids makes it a little more challenging. I put in about 10 hours a week in actual work in my IM business. That's as much as I can do right now because I do have family obligations and I work outside the home as well.

        Best wishes for those working on multi million dollar businesses!

        Adding even $200 a day would change my life. I will let you know when I get there!
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  • Profile picture of the author rajuthan
    So more time lost updating and reading this thread @ troy
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      Sorry about that. I should not have twisted your arm to read it :-0

      I don't have a time problem myself . I do what I want pretty much when I want .





      Originally Posted by rajuthan View Post

      So more time lost updating and reading this thread @ troy
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  • Profile picture of the author bannor32
    I can't even imagine spending more than 8 hours a day working on IM on a regular basis. Spending that long in front of a computer day after day would take a heavy toll on my physical well-being as well as my social/family life.

    I tend to be more of a binge worker. If caught up in the throes of an exciting new idea I can easily put in a 16 hour day without even realizing where the time went. After the initial excitement wears off I am back to 2-3 hours a day. It might be a slower path to riches, but I am enjoying the journey along the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    one of my goals in life is to have a billion dollar business, even though I outsource and have a small team of people to work for me, I still slam out 10-12 hours plus a day

    for one I dont mind it, and for 2 my business isn't just mainly online.

    I do many other things each day, one for example is searching for start up companies to invest in, and turn around for a lifetime share of the profits, I am also actively involved in trading penny stocks, and real estate investing mainly wholesaling.

    of course I could walk away at any given time and still make money for life because of the residuals I have built, but I want more.

    My internet marketing business takes up the least amount of time, but still takes up a few hours a day.

    I dont count the time I spend in the warrior forum as work, I also don't count the times I am reading or studying as work, which also take up a good portion of my day.

    I love what I do so much that it's all I want to do ever. and it is all I do.

    I rarely do anything else because I feel like I am slowing my progress down if I don't build my business.

    I am always taking on new projects every single day, sometimes too many.

    yeah I probably could just limit myself to online business, but I want to be ranked up there with the most well known business people and marketers on the planet.

    and I know that takes time, but the more I do each day the faster I will get there.
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  • Profile picture of the author sylviad
    Guilty... staring at the screen, reading emails, visiting the WF, rifling through papers on my desk, etc.

    But when I work, I must say I put in a total of about 6-8 hours - several lengthy breaks to take care of personal things break up that time.

    During those 6 and sometimes 8 or 10 hours, I work on project creation, web site creation and management, developing new ideas, reading how-to products related to my business goals. And some of that time goes into marketing (I suck at marketing).

    It's amazing how quickly time flies - but I can see where you might be confused if you mean just Marketing. Do others mean just Marketing? Or are they including everything else as well? Most pros I've heard say they only put in a few hours a day to marketing.

    It's easy to see how it can take longer, though, if you consider one person doing it all - and hitting all the potential markets every time. So if they do social marketing, PPC, place ads, look for more places to market, prepare marketing materials, distribute them, contact people with lists and relevant sites to do JVs, set up those campaigns, do keyword research, constantly monitor and modify their marketing campaigns, study how the competition is doing things and come up with strategies to beat it...

    Yes, I can certainly see how all of that can take over 10 hours a day if they repeat this process every single day.

    However, if they are not making any money, then there is something drastically wrong... either with their product, their sales page, their marketing approach, or their concept of how much time they are actually working.

    Troy, I would presume that if you put in more hours, you could be making more money than you are now.

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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    I think too many folks mistake activity for accomplishment.

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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    Its not just running a business. I do consultancy work and therefore need to keep up to date with and network within the SEO/IM/Entrepreneur arena.

    But I choose what I do, how much and when, and that is the KEY.
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  • Profile picture of the author KBRMS
    I work over 8 hours a day. I produce products and write all day long. I try to break it up into 2 hour segments with a 30 minute break in between. I believe in hard work and it pays off. Some days I work more some days i work less. It averages out. I believe in spending time with my family too and that pays off. I also try to work when they are asleep, but that makes me tired the next day. I finf it better to work normal hours and try to work an extra day if needed. Hope this helps. I also love my work and Business.

    Rick
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
    Some days I spend 10 hours refreshing my stats LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author mandela10
    Well, I think that it is not really about how much time you spend in front of the computer as long as what you are doing things that are contributing positively to your business. if you know that getting this done will bring a lot of dough to your bank account, you might even sleep infront of the computer until you get it done.

    Note: For those who work long hours every day, make sure you take a break every 30 minutes to prevent dry eyes and talk a walk every hour, so that you won't damage your posture.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    The point is: everyone has different levels at which they define success. Some want millions, private jets, the works. Others, however, want a more relaxed approach, to be able to take themselves out to a movie (something I've done by myself many times) and not feel like they should be working, and always have cash for a beer. Still, others want a bit of both. For me, I want the freedom to have choice in my day (which I have). I want also to travel and show my wife places I've been and have a few adventures. I also want a toy or two:



    On the whole, if you are happy doing what you're doing, and can provide food, clothing and shelter, everything else is extra, and it is up to you to decide how much you want. Your dreams don't have to be acceptable to anyone, they have to be worthy of YOU, no more no less. So, if you're quite happy with $400 a day, great. If you want a million dollar company, go for it. No one will stand in judgement of you, ever, for you are designing your life as you go, which is more than many can say,
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  • Profile picture of the author Happy_Balance
    Your working how freakin long ?

    Hello Troy,
    • Some people really DO work long hours....
    I Love to learn, and learning new things is an important part of my work, so...
    The line between "real work" and "just reading forums" can quickly disappear.

    On any one subject (i.e. Webmaster), the basics can be mastered pretty quickly, so to avoid "goofing off" I'm constantly pushing the limits of my abilities.

    For example:
    Does anyone here at WF understand this?

    Code:
    <rdf:RDF
        xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"
        xmlns="http://schemas.uche.ogbuji.net/rdfexample/">
      <rdf:Description about="http://uche.ogbuji.net/thisarticle">
        <authored-by>
          <rdf:Description ID="uche.ogbuji.net">
            <name>Uche Ogbuji</name>
            <nationality>American</nationality>
          </rdf:Description>
        </authored-by>
      </rdf:Description>
    </rdf:RDF>
    What is it, and how can you make millions of dollars using IT?
    Hint: It's a matter of semantics.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    I do 16, 17 hour days every day. No joke. I would probably do 75% of that time actually working, the rest, youtube, forums, running my own sites.

    My eyes are suffering big time as a consequence.

    The way I see it -- put in the big hours now and take it easy later. I partied my 20's away and that led to nothing. I dont intend on repeating that same mistake in my 30's.
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