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Hi all,

I need high quality content, and I need it quickly and for a very fair price. Specifically, I'm looking for several writers who can put a spin on anything, and who write ROCKIN' GREAT HEADLINES that get click-through.

Most immediately, I'll need 50+ 300-400 word articles, and possibly 150-word blog posts (quantity TBD). (Right now, I just need ONE writer. But, this need will increase to 2 or 3 by the end of the year.)

If the writer also offers great fringe benefits services for the articles they write (i.e. social bookmarking, etc.), please tell me about it.

If you have used a writer that busts their butt off to deliver great content and VERY COMPELLING headlines that generate AWESOME click-through, post or PM me with contact details or the writer's link.

(p.s. I know I can sift through lots of folks on the WF forum, but I trust REFERRALS so much more. Who doesn't??)

Cheers,
Kelly
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  • Profile picture of the author teamind
    Added note: This will be a long-term need. So, I'm looking for writers who plan to be around for a long time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      • Profile picture of the author teamind
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        What kind of budget do you have in mind for 50 original, high-quality articles with great content, compelling headlines and awesome click-through rates?
        Hi Alexa,

        It's a good question that you ask, and one that doesn't have an exact response. However, I am hoping to pay less than $300 for 50 350-word articles. But with that said, it ultimately depends on the writer's abilities and any ancillary services tied into the fee (i.e. submission or backlinking services, bookmarking, etc.). For someone who also does more add-on, I'd obviously pay more.

        My goal is to find good writers and tools for the long-term on whom I can depend, as 75% of my work will be outsourced.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
          Originally Posted by teamind View Post

          Hi Alexa,

          It's a good question that you ask, and one that doesn't have an exact response. However, I am hoping to pay less than $300 for 50 350-word articles. But with that said, it ultimately depends on the writer's abilities and any ancillary services tied into the fee (i.e. submission or backlinking services, bookmarking, etc.). For someone who also does more add-on, I'd obviously pay more.

          My goal is to find good writers and tools for the long-term on whom I can depend, as 75% of my work will be outsourced.
          Wow, if you actually FIND someone to work for that price with the quality you expect, post here. I think it's going to be impossible. Who would want to write for 1.7 cents per word? Probably not anyone who is good.

          Put it this way .. if I was unemployed but a great writer of converting copy, why would I sell the copy for 1.7 cents a word when I could apply it to my own business and build a real income?

          I think you need to be willing to pay at least 2-3x your intended budget, personally.
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          • Profile picture of the author teamind
            Originally Posted by Chris Thompson View Post

            Wow, if you actually FIND someone to work for that price with the quality you expect, post here. I think it's going to be impossible. Who would want to write for 1.7 cents per word? Probably not anyone who is good.

            Chris,

            If you knew the project, you might not be so quick to judge. Once the routine is down with a few good writers, they will be able to churn out good content like mad.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
    Great question asked by Alexa ... you get what you pay for so it's important to know what writers want to be paid and what buyers want to pay them. I'm paying attention to this thread because I just don't have time to write everything that I need, so recommendations are always valued by me.

    CDarklock is very good. He's pretty busy these days, but I love the quality I get and I'll keep using him whenever I can.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lindsay Brynn
    You are welcome to add me to your list of potential writers for down the road. I can supply testimonials and referrals if needed. Although I am pretty solidly booked for the next month and a half.
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    • Profile picture of the author teamind
      Originally Posted by Lindsay Brynn View Post

      You are welcome to add me to your list of potential writers for down the road. I can supply testimonials and referrals if needed. Although I am pretty solidly booked for the next month and a half.
      Hi Lindsay,
      Thanks for letting me know about you. Will keep in touch for later needs as you are booked for now.

      Cheers,
      Kelly
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Williams
    You can add me to that potentials list. Samples/referrals on request.

    Attention grabbing headlines are my specialty too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
    Originally Posted by teamind View Post

    Hi all,

    I need high quality content, and I need it quickly and for a very fair price. Specifically, I'm looking for several writers who can put a spin on anything, and who write ROCKIN' GREAT HEADLINES that get click-through.
    LOL, join the waiting line. Been going through a couple of writers for my Mini Money Factories. Just starting with a new one who looks promising. Problem is, the good ones are usually overbooked.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        • Profile picture of the author teamind
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          I like his writing, too (and his hair's more interesting than that of most writers).
          Thanks Alexa and everyone else for this recommendation. I've PM'd him and waiting to hear back.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            • Profile picture of the author teamind
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              I'm sure he's a nice, polite guy who'll reply to a message. I don't know him, personally, and obviously can't in any sense "speak for him", but I can still tell you just from reading the board that he won't be writing 50 articles for under $300!
              And, I'm okay with that. Plus, as I shared earlier, it all depends on abilities, etc. Better writers are obviously worth what they charge, and I'd simply change how I use the writer's services (i.e. fewer articles, help with headlines on articles I write, etc.) to still accomplish my budget goals. There's always a solution.

              Rather than posting on how it couldn't be done, it would be tremendously more helpful (from those of you with more experience than I have) if you suggest a creative way to still achieve the writing objective within the budget (i.e. if there's a spinning or more affordable rewriting service that should be combined with the talents of a stellar writer).

              Now for that kind of reply, I'm all ears!
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    • Profile picture of the author teamind
      Originally Posted by writermommy6 View Post

      Sent you an email.
      Hi Writermommy6,

      Did you get my reply email?

      Kelly
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  • Profile picture of the author teamind
    Originally Posted by beamer1959 View Post

    I have a WSO up right now for eBooks and articles. It's not EXACTLY what you're asking for, but the link in the WSO will take you to my portfolio on Elance. I can also supply links to my blogs and my articles. ( I have some articles that are ranking very well). I can't do bookmarking, but I do have UAW and I could spin the articles and run them through. Let me know if you're interested and we can work something out. Link to WSO in my sig.

    Cheers!
    Donna
    Hi Donna,
    Sounds like 'ebooks' are your specialty. Can you write on the subject of residential real estate? If yes, I anticipate a need for a small ebook in the next few months, and can keep you in mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robin E. Anderson
    I'll throw my hat in the ring. I am a very skilled writer who is seeking to build a good reputation and, being new, am not booked up for the next month
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    • Profile picture of the author teamind
      Originally Posted by Robin E. Anderson View Post

      I'll throw my hat in the ring. I am a very skilled writer who is seeking to build a good reputation and, being new, am not booked up for the next month
      Hi Robin,

      Please PM me a couple of website copywriting samples and let me know how well your copy converts. Also any SEO client testimonials to share?

      Let me know your rates, too, for 5 sample articles? (Do you offer a free test article?)

      Thanks!
      Kelly
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  • Profile picture of the author teamind
    Originally Posted by beamer1959 View Post

    I can write on just about any topic you like. If you go to my WSO you'll see my first excellent testimonial for a book in the relationship niche. And I've been married and divorced 3 times! So yes, I feel pretty confident I can help you out. My copywriting stinks, though. I'm not good at sales pages at all. I've finished another ebook for another warrior so I'm hoping to see another good testimonial pop up there soon. But please, do keep me in mind. I am booked through Monday but after that my calendar is still open.

    Thank you,
    Donna Anderson

    Hi Donna,

    Looks like you do some fun things. Would you PM me what you would charge for the following:
    1) Two 3-page reports (on residential real estate)
    2) Two 5-page reports (on residential real estate)
    My timeline for this need is about 90 days out.

    Thanks!
    Kelly
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  • I was about to highly recommend myself, but I happened to notice your budget and will have to withdraw the recommendation. Good luck! (You'll need it.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
    Fair enough reply, teamind ...I suppose if the topic is really easy to churn out words, some writers can do a great job in your price range. It may end up meaning that your writers are in constant churn, though, and you'll spend a lot of time replacing them and training them. But I should not have judged so quickly - fair comment.
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    • Profile picture of the author Terri Tutten
      I can personally recommend Beamer1959 - Donna is her name, and her writing rocks! She's written an ebook for me, several articles, some short posts, and she has a wide range. She's witty, fun to read, and nothing ever requires a re-write by me.

      She's fast too -and always quick to respond to you. I give her a big thumbs up!
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      • Profile picture of the author teamind
        Originally Posted by FlipDiva View Post

        I can personally recommend Beamer1959 - Donna is her name, and her writing rocks! She's written an ebook for me, several articles, some short posts, and she has a wide range. She's witty, fun to read, and nothing ever requires a re-write by me.

        She's fast too -and always quick to respond to you. I give her a big thumbs up!

        Hey FlipDiva,
        Thanks for the recommendation. I did see your testimonial on her site and I am talking with her about writing up a couple reports for me.

        Given that she is fun to read, too, that actually could be a huge plus for my targeted market. Thanks for lasering my attention back on her for this initial project.
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    • Profile picture of the author teamind
      Originally Posted by Chris Thompson View Post

      Fair enough reply, teamind ...I suppose if the topic is really easy to churn out words, some writers can do a great job in your price range. It may end up meaning that your writers are in constant churn, though, and you'll spend a lot of time replacing them and training them. But I should not have judged so quickly - fair comment.
      Thanks for the reply, Chris...and for your excellent point on "churn". That thought has occurred to me. So, this afternoon I've been checking out Articlez and Need-An-Article services as they have teams of writers that could help me produce the (hopefully) massive amount of content I will ultimately be needing.

      Perhaps a solution is for me to hire a great writer for all my BEST keywords, and offer a few of those articles up as samples for the writing teams.
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    • Profile picture of the author CurtisN
      Originally Posted by davebo View Post

      When you have more writers than jobs, prices come down. Article writers don't seem to get that.
      Actually, you're wrong. Good writers either have or will eventually have a loyal following of customers who will come back again and again for content regardless of what they're being charged (within reason, obviously).

      This isn't a matter of supply and demand here - we're not talking about gas or food. Good writers charge whatever they want to charge and not-so-good writers have to constantly lower their prices to get business. Good clients will pay their good writers whatever they ask while bad clients will jump ship the second they find a "better" deal.

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      • Profile picture of the author teamind
        I really don't want to see this thread degenerate into a topic of debate that has been covered in hundreds (if not thousands) of other forums. That's not what's being discussed here.

        Different writers have different motivations/goals, methods of working, strategies for researching, different speeds of creation, and so on. So, different pricing is only natural. It's simply NOT A TOPIC TO DEBATE.

        If writers don't want to write for a price, they won't. If buyers don't want to buy for a price, they won't. ENOUGH SAID.

        As I shared earlier, $300 is my budget for said articles. Here's what I've realized/discovered thus far:
        1) I can hire fabulous, established writers for their asking price. Hire them for all my top keywords. Build on their wonderful ideas as better guidance for lesser experienced, lower priced writers.
        2) Outsource content to writing teams such as Articlez or Need-An-Article for the content that needs rewriting and true human respinning to fit different markets.
        3) Hire newer writers wanting to make a name for themselves and help them achieve the reputation/reviews they want. They win/I win.

        If you have other strategic ideas on how to make the most out of outsourced writing, PLEASE post it here and help me save this thread for something more productive.
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        • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
          Originally Posted by teamind View Post

          Different writers have different motivations/goals, methods of working, strategies for researching, different speeds of creation, and so on. So, different pricing is only natural. It's simply NOT A TOPIC TO DEBATE.
          For what it's worth, I agree. It's not that the topic can't be debated... any topic can be debated... but the debate is ultimately meaningless. No matter what might get said here, or anywhere, you'll still set your budget however it makes sense for you and your business - exactly as you should. And the writer you ultimately hire will know going in what your budget is, and be okay with it.

          As I shared earlier, $300 is my budget for said articles.
          That's going to be rough. 50 articles for $300 is $6 an article. I don't know a single high-quality writer who charges less than two cents a word, so if you're looking for 300-word articles, you can get this done - and I can point you at some very good writers here who fit that budget. If you're looking for something longer, you'll have real trouble finding someone to fit this budget and provide high-quality results.

          If you have other strategic ideas on how to make the most out of outsourced writing, PLEASE post it here and help me save this thread for something more productive.
          I've been thinking about this for some time... and planning to sell it, actually, in a short report format. But here's the nutshell version.

          You need lots of content on your site to optimise for keywords, but at the same time, you need to control the cashflow you invest in high-quality articles people will actually read.

          So use an excerpt. In the middle of each article, put links to two other articles, in much the same way you might insert an ad block. In your "bad" articles, link to a "good" one and another "bad" one. In your "good" articles, link to two bad ones.

          Discerning visitors who don't want to read the "bad" articles will click through to the "good" article, where the links to "bad" articles won't tempt them. So your site gathers credit from the discerning readers by having good content, while still getting the juice from a massive collection of "bad" articles for SEO. If a human reviewer from Google checks your site, he'll see that your articles aren't all "bad," because every single article on your site either is or links to a "good" article.

          So you can split up your budget between "good" articles at $20 and $30 a pop, and "bad" articles at $1 or $2 each. Most of your articles will, of course, be "bad" ones... but since they're just a click away from a "good" one, it shouldn't dramatically impact your human readership.
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          • Profile picture of the author teamind
            Thanks for your creative thinking on this, CDarklock. Your suggestions are something on which I will most certainly experiment.

            Also, thanks for your PM and see my PM reply.

            Cheers,
            Kelly
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    I have only one thing to say, and it's about quality. Often you will find people talking about quality, and yet their yardstick might not be yours. If you are looking for quality, don't ask for a sample article, because many times people will spend hours writing a sample to show how good their writing is.

    The client can then be disappointed because the work received doesn't match the sample given.

    Go to their website, blog, EZA and see what their normal writing is like. This will give you a better clue of the standard of work.

    Don't take the word of anybody else, just check yourself because only you will know the quality you are expecting.
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    • Profile picture of the author teamind
      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      I have only one thing to say, and it's about quality. Often you will find people talking about quality, and yet their yardstick might not be yours. If you are looking for quality, don't ask for a sample article, because many times people will spend hours writing a sample to show how good their writing is.

      The client can then be disappointed because the work received doesn't match the sample given.

      Go to their website, blog, EZA and see what their normal writing is like. This will give you a better clue of the standard of work.

      Don't take the word of anybody else, just check yourself because only you will know the quality you are expecting.
      Great suggestion, Bev. The trail of past writing really is one of the best indications.

      One other thing I've just learned is:
      1) Quality/grammar/insightfulness in writer's posts on forum
      2) How quickly and thoroughly they reply to my communications/instructions
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  • Profile picture of the author bechelle
    It looks like you have found the writers you need. However, I would like to be added to your list. I need to increase my writing volume and can accept your rates since I offer warriors discounts anyway.

    Thanks for your consideration,
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    • Profile picture of the author teamind
      Originally Posted by bechelle View Post

      It looks like you have found the writers you need. However, I would like to be added to your list. I need to increase my writing volume and can accept your rates since I offer warriors discounts anyway.

      Thanks for your consideration,
      Dana
      Hi Dana,
      Please PM me where I can learn more about your work.

      Thanks,
      Kelly
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      • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
        Hi teamind

        Sending you a PM

        Cheers.
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