Someone to market my business?

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Hello!

This is my first post here. I am not an Internet marketer. I joined hoping to learn more about marketing so I could market my business but honestly, it's just not for me. (But I do find your posts/info fascinating!)

I would like to work a deal with someone to do marketing for me. Can anyone give me a good idea on how to get started finding a competent marketer and also... how such a deal might work?

Thank you!

Victoria
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I can tell you to be very, very careful who you deal with. Make sure you have airtight contracts and use some form of escrow.

    A lot of these people will promise you the world, take your money and promptly disappear.

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  • Profile picture of the author elenisofikiti
    Hi Victoria.
    What's your niche? Is it coaching?
    I'll be happy to provide my services directly or give you any advice you might want here in this thread.
    Do you have a website already? Are you just starting out or do you also have an established business?
    I've worked with several service providers and I have a service-based business myself, so I'm your girl. ;-)
    Eleni
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      • Profile picture of the author elenisofikiti
        Hey!
        No worries. I'm here whenever you're ready!
        Until then, I'll have a look at your site, and enjoy Christmas.
        Merry Christmas to you and all WF members!
        Eleni
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        • Profile picture of the author CoachTori
          Terrific Eleni! It's on my TO DO list. When you look at my site, you will see I wrote a training manual. THAT is what I want to market. I am an excellent dog trainer and used to be a journalist. The manual is VERY well-written and easy to follow. I get $295 for it. I am focusing starting up a new business and while I am free and happy to support students using my manual to take my lesson, I have no desire to market it. Training energizes me; marketing drains me. I am open to working out a deal that makes sense for both sides.

          Thank you again Eleni!

          Tori
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          • Profile picture of the author elenisofikiti
            Hi Tori!
            So, I took a quick look at your site. There are a couple of problems with it, not "problems" really but things I would definitely suggest you improve.
            To start with, you want to promote your manual, but it's too difficult for someone to find. It's under the testimonials menu? How so? Also, there's no clear presentation of the benefits a buyer would gain, the contents of the manual, and how one can buy it.
            There are a couple more issues, but as a general rule keep in mind that one page should serve one goal. So, in this case there should be one separate page (a sales page) for your manual. This page shouldn't confuse the visitor with other messages, like "Dog Training In-Home, By Phone/Skype, or my ‚Äč"Baby Steps" Manual".
            Also, your homepage needs improvement in terms of how the content is laid out, and it can be better in terms of design as well so that you attract the visitors' attention to the sections of the page that you want to.
            I hope these tips make sense.
            By the way, I see your site is on weebly, right? Get in touch if sth is not clear. I'll be happy to discuss further.
            Cheers!
            Eleni
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            • Profile picture of the author CoachTori
              Hi Eleni! Happy Holiday!

              I'm doing the best I can. Glad to know all of this stuff can be fixed. :-0)

              We can talk anytime! Want to contact me?

              Victoria
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi Victoria,

    One of the easiest ways to find a rocking person who you resonate with and also offers solid, dependable service is an authentic way is to research them through their blogs, through their business sites and through social media.

    The folks that give away insane value for free are the trustworthy ones; these are generous types who are personable, authentic and transparent. They do a great job for free and do a great job offering their premium services too.

    I'd begin clicking some Warrior member links of folks who seem to vibe with you. Then visit their blogs and see how much helpful stuff they put out there. This is your starting point.

    All the best.

    Ryan
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You would have to hire a marketing consultant. Unfortunately it's hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones, but if you find someone here on Warrior Forum that has the social proof that they're legit... you should check them out, and research them also on Google and other sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Always thoroughly check references. For anyone you're considering, ask them to give you the contact information for 5 recent clients that they have served and that have a budget similar to yours. Then contact each of these clients and ask them your questions about the service provider.

    This will scare away 90% of those who will offer to do your marketing.

    Almost all the people on this forum are new and the vast majority have very little actual marketing experience. As others have cautioned, be very selective and make the marketer verify that they have successfully helped their paying clients. Many people on this forum are desperate to find a career in online money making.

    The very best to you,

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author mrskl
    is it like, you are looking for someone like Virtual Assistant who could help you to market your business?
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachTori
      Hello! Thank you... I actually want someone to do the marketing (and let me know how I can help/support). I do not want to be in charge of marketing.

      Thanks again...

      Tori
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonTheFreeman
    Best of luck to you Victoria.

    I understand where you are coming from. You just want to outsource marketing since you are so busy with doing things on your own. It's very reasonable.
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  • Profile picture of the author CoachTori
    Yes! And I am busy, but not too busy to help/support. I don't LIKE it and that's why i want someone else to do it. :-)

    Thanks Jason!
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  • Profile picture of the author G00GLESLAPPED
    Are you the miss manners for dogs in Portland Oregon?
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Henry01
    As I have been started the marketing on my website, so firstly focus on the SMM and tried to promote my business on social channels and after that started SEO. Now it's going good and getting more customers now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamel Hassell
    Well first and foremost you are in the right place to learn . Secondly I will like to say that neither of us on this forum arrived full of knowledge ,we are all learners no matter how long we have been online.

    Thirdly, I think that you are in the wrong game if you don't want to market yours-elf . I think you will get burned by allowing another person to try and market for you, it is very rare that anyone will market for you with out a cost.
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachTori
      Hello Jamel. Not sure what I wrote that made you think I am looking for someone to work for free. I'm not. :-0)
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Not sure why this thread is in the main forum - should be a 'want to hire' ad.

    Placing an inexpensive ad on this forum permits you to:

    1. Explain clearly what tasks you want done - what qualifications/experience you require/what range of payment/time suits your needs.

    2. Those applying to 'help' you can send send you their qualifications/experience and proposal directly.

    As it is now, this thread is being spammed by people promoting their sites and looking for work. Not good for them - not useful for you.
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    Just wait a second – so what you're telling me is that my chance of surviving all this is directly linked to the common sense of others? You’re kidding, right?
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachTori
      Hello Kay! Thank you for your input. I apologize if it's in the wrong section. I didn't see anywhere else to post it. (Surprisingly, WF sent me an email saying this was a popular post, or something to that effect.)

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      Explain clearly what tasks you want done - what qualifications/experience you require/what range of payment/time suits your needs.

      Kay... I don't know what to do. I hope you understand. Thank you again for your assistance.

      Victoria
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  • Profile picture of the author simplio
    If you are looking for marketing person to hold your business you must be very much active and be smart thinker.You must take his all identities and working experience before involving him with your work.
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  • Profile picture of the author ctrlaltdelete
    Hi, just want to wish you good luck with your business.

    Since you're probably thinking of outsourcing to a virtual assistant who knows how to market, just make sure to look for one who's got good ratings on online worker sites like Freelancer, Fiverr, Upwork, Onlinejobs.ph. Read their job profiles and do a background check on their social media if you can. Never hurts to play it safe these days since it's easy to scam someone on the Internet.
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachTori
      THANK YOU so much! I'm looking for someone who can take a lot of responsibility, rather than doing tasks as assigned. I don't want to be in charge of it. I can support them and provide content and of course, do the dog training. I want someone to make money helping me make money.

      I appreciate your help!!! :-0)
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  • Profile picture of the author CoachTori
    Sorry I am just now getting your message. Ok... I will call tomorrow or next week. Thank you. (Who do I ask for?)
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Originally Posted by CoachTori View Post

    Hello!

    This is my first post here. I am not an Internet marketer. I joined hoping to learn more about marketing so I could market my business but honestly, it's just not for me. (But I do find your posts/info fascinating!)

    I would like to work a deal with someone to do marketing for me. Can anyone give me a good idea on how to get started finding a competent marketer and also... how such a deal might work?

    Thank you!

    Victoria
    1. You post an ad in Help Wanted. In the ad, you describe the services you want and the pay you are willing to trade for it. If you don't know what kind of services you're looking for, state the end results you want.

    2. You collect some responses. Filter for seriousness and results. Be wary. Check for references and make sure they're independent references, not just their friend they sent you to who will say something nice.

    3. Pick one to help you. Make sure there is a crystal clear scope of work, "You will do this in this time period in exchange for this amount of money, and we agree that this is how we will both know the work is done."

    4. If they don't accomplish results in the time they said they would, get a refund.

    I would be ultra careful with who I hired here, especially for something like SEO services that...well, after being business development manager of an IT firm 10 years ago, and running an online business since 2011, I cannot tell you how to know that your SEO guy is actually doing something.

    There are other ways to market, of course, like running paid ads. Those may have some better transparency.

    Understand, for the marketer's sake, that nothing works perfectly right out of the gate. The funnel falls down at every stage and needs to be corrected. That's NORMAL. The ads don't convert; you fix them. The landing page doesn't work; you fix that. The email sequence doesn't work; you fix those emails. The sales page doesn't work; you fix it. And then after all that work you have something, few other people have the patience or stick-to-itivness to develop: a working funnel.

    Sometimes you'll have an easier go of it and stages will work well on the first try. Most of the time they will not, and will need to be optimized. ...How can I be clear about what I'm saying here? ...Do NOT expect a home run on the first attempt by your marketer. Few people get that, including those with tons and tons of experience (read David Ogilvy, who was totally open that he failed most of the time, and began each sit-down to write copy with the worry that, "This time, I will fail.")

    Other forum tips for you:

    -Use the Thanks button. No need to make a single line post expressing Thanks. It just clutters up the forum.

    -Quote the post you're referring to (which you have some times, but there's at least one instance where someone reading will have no idea who you are talking to.)
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