They say "the money is in the list", but what about if they are just members?

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I was just wondering something...

On my website, I have a course that costs $47 for lifetime access (I will be testing different price points, but that's not the purpose of this post).

I also have an eBook that cost $9.

Anytime someone buys either one of these things, I have their email address. Specifically, the course...they become "members" of my site, requiring a username and password to access the material that they paid for. I do have the option to send out a "broadcast message" to them, but that's it. I can't get them on some sort of autoresponder, but not that that even matters to me anyway because they have already purchased the main thing that I want them to buy!

When they buy my eBook, the product is auto-delivered to them with the E-junkie shopping cart. Their email address is then saved in a database in my E-junkie account.

So essentially I'm collecting a "buyers list"...but it's not like an Aweber autoresponder thing in which I have a sequence of emails attempting to sell them stuff.

I also have opt-in forms on my website which gives them "monthly updates". This puts them into my aWeber list....and I do exactly as I say - I send out a "broadcast" once per month letting them know of new content (both free and members-only content). I understand that this is a means of keeping the traffic coming to my site, essentially just reminding them of my existence on the internet. Maybe some of them will eventually come back and buy my course or eBook...

But really I guess what I'm asking is...
  • Is having them sign up as $47 members, which allows me the opportunity to send out a mass "broadcast" to them (but that's it) as good as having an autoresponder list?
  • Is having a bunch of email addresses in an E-junkie database useful at all? I can't send these people mass emails.

I'm still new to all this. This is my first year actually giving this IM thing a real shot. I made just over $1000 in December, so I'm doing okay for a start...I think.

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi BK,

    The money is in the service you offer to people through your free content and premium offerings.

    You email subscribers helpful content. Folks see value in the content, and deem you valuable. Then over time, they buy whatever you have to offer because they trust you.

    They buy the freemium, then the premium.

    As for email databases, growing your list through your blog is the easiest way to ensure that people want what you have to offer, so you build a quality list of engaged, intrigued, hungry human beings who dig your style.

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    • Profile picture of the author Bkelly301
      Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

      Hi BK,

      The money is in the service you offer to people through your free content and premium offerings.

      You email subscribers helpful content. Folks see value in the content, and deem you valuable. Then over time, they buy whatever you have to offer because they trust you.

      They buy the freemium, then the premium.

      As for email databases, growing your list through your blog is the easiest way to ensure that people want what you have to offer, so you build a quality list of engaged, intrigued, hungry human beings who dig your style.

      Ryan
      Hey thanks for the reply!

      I do understand that the goal is to collect a following of people, and I need to maintain a good relationship with them.

      My question is specifically - Does it matter that I don't have these people on an "official list" (such as AWeber)?

      So essentially I'm building a list, but just not an "Aweber list".
      • The people that register for my $47 course give me their emails, but the only way I can communicate via email with them is through a "broadcast" (my membership plugin allows me to do this).
      • The people that buy my $9 ebook give me their emails, but the only way I can communicate with them via email is to individually email each person.
      • The people that sign up using the "Sign up for updates" form on my website get placed on my aWeber list
      • There's no way that I'm aware of that will allow me to "import" everyone onto one single list that is in aWeber
      I'm sure this is basic stuff, but I'm still trying to figure out all the details. I have a decent business going, but I just want to make sure I'm "collecting my following" the right way.

      Anyone know how I could solve this?
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  • Profile picture of the author smartprofitmoney
    Originally Posted by Bkelly301 View Post

    I was just wondering something...

    On my website, I have a course that costs $47 for lifetime access (I will be testing different price points, but that's not the purpose of this post).

    I also have an eBook that cost $9.

    Anytime someone buys either one of these things, I have their email address. Specifically, the course...they become "members" of my site, requiring a username and password to access the material that they paid for. I do have the option to send out a "broadcast message" to them, but that's it. I can't get them on some sort of autoresponder, but not that that even matters to me anyway because they have already purchased the main thing that I want them to buy!

    When they buy my eBook, the product is auto-delivered to them with the E-junkie shopping cart. Their email address is then saved in a database in my E-junkie account.

    So essentially I'm collecting a "buyers list"...but it's not like an Aweber autoresponder thing in which I have a sequence of emails attempting to sell them stuff.

    I also have opt-in forms on my website which gives them "monthly updates". This puts them into my aWeber list....and I do exactly as I say - I send out a "broadcast" once per month letting them know of new content (both free and members-only content). I understand that this is a means of keeping the traffic coming to my site, essentially just reminding them of my existence on the internet. Maybe some of them will eventually come back and buy my course or eBook...

    But really I guess what I'm asking is...
    • Is having them sign up as $47 members, which allows me the opportunity to send out a mass "broadcast" to them (but that's it) as good as having an autoresponder list?
    • Is having a bunch of email addresses in an E-junkie database useful at all? I can't send these people mass emails.

    I'm still new to all this. This is my first year actually giving this IM thing a real shot. I made just over $1000 in December, so I'm doing okay for a start...I think.

    Thanks!
    Hello,
    Per your question, all you need is aweber, you can create as many list as you need from as many lead capture points on website, one for ebook, one for course, and so on.

    Now after they optin from buying what you had on fist optin, ebook, etc, now start sending them affiliate products in a sequence, that fit their niche, do not spam them or you will lose them, now it is super easy to setup email to go out or broadcast your choice, but all done with aweber, nothing else is needed.

    The money is in the emails that follow after first sale, gain their trust, don't always send affiliate links, send them great info of value, and then drop in a affiliate link here and there.

    Also to grow your list faster, try giving away a free ebook, that is what I do, well I also give more things away but one of mine is a free ebook course,.and works very well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bkelly301
      Originally Posted by smartprofitmoney View Post

      Hello,
      Per your question, all you need is aweber, you can create as many list as you need from as many lead capture points on website, one for ebook, one for course, and so on.

      Now after they optin from buying what you had on fist optin, ebook, etc, now start sending them affiliate products in a sequence, that fit their niche, do not spam them or you will lose them, now it is super easy to setup email to go out or broadcast your choice, but all done with aweber, nothing else is needed.

      The money is in the emails that follow after first sale, gain their trust, don't always send affiliate links, send them great info of value, and then drop in a affiliate link here and there.

      Also to grow your list faster, try giving away a free ebook, that is what I do, well I also give more things away but one of mine is a free ebook course,.and works very well.
      The thing is...

      I don't know how to get them onto aWeber.

      When they register for my course:
      • They hit a PayPal button and pay $47
      • Then they fill out a form for a username, password, and email (I use Wishlist Member)
      • Then they can access the members area of the site
      • I can connect Wishlist member to aWeber, but this sends them a separate "confirmation email" that they have to click the link in order to opt-in on the list, but they never do this step
      • Therefore, I can't figure out how to get them onto my aWeber list

      When they buy my eBook:
      • They hit the "add to cart button" (using E-junkie)
      • Then the eBook is auto-delivered to their email address
      • You can connect E-Junkie to aWeber, but again this requires them to have to click a link in a separate email in order to opt-in
      • They rarely click this link, so I can't get them onto my aWeber list

      It's a weird situation I know.

      I'm wondering if there is a way to just take all these emails that I am collecting and "import them into a mailing list service"?

      Or is that considered spam/blackhat marketing?
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      • Profile picture of the author smartprofitmoney
        Originally Posted by Bkelly301 View Post

        The thing is...

        I don't know how to get them onto aWeber.

        When they register for my course:
        • They hit a PayPal button and pay $47
        • Then they fill out a form for a username, password, and email (I use Wishlist Member)
        • Then they can access the members area of the site
        • I can connect Wishlist member to aWeber, but this sends them a separate "confirmation email" that they have to click the link in order to opt-in on the list, but they never do this step
        • Therefore, I can't figure out how to get them onto my aWeber list

        When they buy my eBook:
        • They hit the "add to cart button" (using E-junkie)
        • Then the eBook is auto-delivered to their email address
        • You can connect E-Junkie to aWeber, but again this requires them to have to click a link in a separate email in order to opt-in
        • They rarely click this link, so I can't get them onto my aWeber list

        It's a weird situation I know.

        I'm wondering if there is a way to just take all these emails that I am collecting and "import them into a mailing list service"?

        Or is that considered spam/blackhat marketing?
        Hello,

        Yes export them to CSV file, and then study aweber or call them , they have a phone number and will guide you how , you will need to build out all lead capture systems on website, or pay someone,

        So your lead capture system is all wrong, you need to change all this stuff, start with one list, and hope you have skills, you should if your in this business.
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      • Profile picture of the author infoguy83
        I'm not sure about Aweber, but I use Getresponse and they allow you to turn off double-opt in (including contacts added through API).

        I sell digital products using woocommerce, and I have a plugin that will add customers to any one of my getresponse lists automatically after they purchase.

        Again, I am not familiar with Aweber but I spent a ton of time researching and figuring out my automated setup...my advice is you do the same for aweber, or consider switching services.

        Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    I would contact e-junkie to see if there is a way to auto import them into Aweber or if there is a third party option to do it.

    If e-junkie has an API then a third party option may already exist. If not, I'm sure you could have a custom program built that could do it, so you don't have to do it manually.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    This is what Aweber says:

    You can easily import a list of subscribers via the "Import" page of your AWeber account. When importing subscribers into AWeber, you'll want to ensure that they have directly requested to receive your information before adding them to your list. If you're unsure if your list can be imported, please review this article and if you want to know how to best prepare your import file, you can view our article here.

    Note: Make sure that import confirmation is disabled in your list.

    By default, when you import subscribers, they will not be sent a confirmation message. This article explains how to import subscribers without confirmation.
    https://help.aweber.com/hc/en-us/art...-confirmation-
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  • Profile picture of the author Laksh
    Check on what Diablo & Brent suggested. If neither works, see if this option can be done.

    Create a supporting guide or video or a checklist that compliments your books. Place the link to these complimentary items in your books & use a landing page to collect their emails before they get to these video or guide or checklist. You may disable Double Optin in Aweber.

    This will ensure that your buyers are now on your Aweber list too.

    Pat Flynn does this with his Amazon books, not sure if you have any restrictions in EJunkie though.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffreydale
    You have their emails and you can import them and market to them anywhere (assuming they opted in to you marketing to them). And yes, having emails is valuable.
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  • Profile picture of the author superowid
    You can simply give all your members with new free bonuses in a new page with new registration form to subscribe and put them on your aWeber. Just tell them your new free bonuses page link! You can also offer a new product for free or whatever your scenario is... just offer them something in a new page that connect with your aweber directly! Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Bkelly301
    Thanks for all the ideas everyone!
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