WSO Sellars Beware - Disturbing Trend Going On

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I have been keeping this to myself for some time, but since this is going overboard lately, decided to discuss openly, without mentioning any names. Just a short note to ALL WSO sellars - When someone claims to have 'bought' your product/service and gives you their 'Purchase Transaction ID', do your due dilligence and check if the person really bought or just issued a fake transaction ID, anticipating that you will send him or her the product download link. Many sellars are too busy to check and authenticate if the purchase was really made, and unwittingly send these fakers the product download link.

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    • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
      Originally Posted by Imran Naseem View Post

      It happened to me too today so I checked before I gave out the product.

      These people steal your products then share them on other sites.
      Ahhh.

      Maybe just throw up the names/emails somewhere else?

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  • Profile picture of the author seamusb
    That is why it is much better to automate the whole thing by paying somebody like e-junkie.com $10 a month to take away the pain and let them manage the Paypal payments (Plug - I use it for my WSO and it works fine!)

    Outsource, outsource, outsource
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    • Profile picture of the author shermancox
      Yep...plus you have the added benefit of your customer getting the product immediately....


      Originally Posted by seamusb View Post

      That is why it is much better to automate the whole thing by paying somebody like e-junkie.com $10 a month to take away the pain and let them manage the Paypal payments (Plug - I use it for my WSO and it works fine!)

      Outsource, outsource, outsource
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      • Profile picture of the author Jillian Slack
        I never understood why people posted transaction IDs in the first place.

        Is it because they are wasting time by manually sending the WSO content to their buyers?
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
        Originally Posted by shermancox View Post

        Yep...plus you have the added benefit of your customer getting the product immediately....

        I wouldn't necessarily say that. E-junkie has been a real pain. I've had to notify the product owner to get my stuff two of the past three times I've bought something through there because I couldn't get the products to download.

        Wishful thinking, but I get what you're saying. :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author WritingMadwoman
      Originally Posted by seamusb View Post

      That is why it is much better to automate the whole thing by paying somebody like e-junkie.com $10 a month to take away the pain and let them manage the Paypal payments (Plug - I use it for my WSO and it works fine!) Outsource, outsource, outsource
      EJunkie also has another great feature; you can go into your dashboard and re-send the thank you email with re-activated download links - which will also expire according to the timeframe you have set up for that product.

      I'm a huge e-junkie fan!

      I also plan to check out WSO plus the next time I run a WSO, seems like a great system.

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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Williams
      Originally Posted by seamusb View Post

      That is why it is much better to automate the whole thing by paying somebody like e-junkie.com $10 a month to take away the pain and let them manage the Paypal payments (Plug - I use it for my WSO and it works fine!)

      Outsource, outsource, outsource
      I do automate many, many things. But these do happen no matter what... And honestly, you cannot rely 100% on software and tools, so still need to check for fakes.

      Anyways, good thing to remember, thanks

      Alex
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    • Profile picture of the author um1001
      Originally Posted by seamusb View Post

      That is why it is much better to automate the whole thing by paying somebody like e-junkie.com $10 a month to take away the pain and let them manage the Paypal payments (Plug - I use it for my WSO and it works fine!)

      Outsource, outsource, outsource
      Seconding e-junkie. Great service.
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  • Profile picture of the author secretjustin
    I was actually wondering this the other day. If people were doing that. I see people posting transaction ids in the threads all the time, I don't know why they would do that in the first place. Fools. But anyway...

    The WSO's here are dirt cheap and are extremely useful for most people. It's a shame there are people who go that far.

    Maybe there should be some new protocol when selling. For example, perhaps some sort of warning to users when replying to WSO threads? I was thinking of a pop-up but would be irritating. Maybe some sort of RED LABEL just above the user input message box. " WARNING: Posting your transaction # or other personal ordering information is forbidden. Please contact the seller directly with your ordering or transaction # If you have comments or questions regarding such. K thanks."
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    • Profile picture of the author admiral
      Originally Posted by secretjustin View Post

      I was actually wondering this the other day. If people were doing that. I see people posting transaction ids in the threads all the time, I don't know why they would do that in the first place. Fools. But anyway...

      The WSO's here are dirt cheap and are extremely useful for most people. It's a shame there are people who go that far.

      Maybe there should be some new protocol when selling. For example, perhaps some sort of warning to users when replying to WSO threads? I was thinking of a pop-up but would be irritating. Maybe some sort of RED LABEL just above the user input message box. " WARNING: Posting your transaction # or other personal ordering information is forbidden. Please contact the seller directly with your ordering or transaction # If you have comments or questions regarding such. K thanks."
      excellent post on the issue and i feel the admin should nip this in the bud pronto.
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      • Interesting,

        I guess there is no limit to what some will do to save a buck, I never bothered checking, but I can see now that I had better start being more careful. One thing for sure, the time verses lost revenues are more important than ever as the recession brings out the rip offs on all front.

        I have been seeing a similar problem with affiliate marketing, more and more poeple simply input their own clickbank ID's into url cutting out who ever got them to affiliate site to begin with, one of the reasons most affiliate programs are going to multi-tier to try and prevent total loss on sales. The whole industry is in for a tough time the worse the recession gets, so hang on.

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    • Profile picture of the author Success2020
      Originally Posted by secretjustin View Post

      I was actually wondering this the other day. If people were doing that. I see people posting transaction ids in the threads all the time, I don't know why they would do that in the first place. Fools. But anyway...

      The WSO's here are dirt cheap and are extremely useful for most people. It's a shame there are people who go that far.

      Maybe there should be some new protocol when selling. For example, perhaps some sort of warning to users when replying to WSO threads? I was thinking of a pop-up but would be irritating. Maybe some sort of RED LABEL just above the user input message box. " WARNING: Posting your transaction # or other personal ordering information is forbidden. Please contact the seller directly with your ordering or transaction # If you have comments or questions regarding such. K thanks."
      I agree with you i think admin should put up a system that will give WARNING to anybody that post PayPal transaction number for WSO ORDER....
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    'Purchase Transaction ID', do your due dilligence and check if the person really bought or just issued a fake transaction ID,
    Yes it happens on occasion - BUT - there are also sellers who don't understand what a "transaction id" is.

    If I give you MY transaction id for a purchase - it does nothing for you. The transaction ID the buyer receives from Paypal is different than the Seller's transaction ID. That's because the ID's are for paypal's use.

    The way to know if someone bought or not is for them to provide their PAYPAL EMAIL ADDRESS.

    Sellers asking for "your transaction ID number" tell me the seller doesn't know how to easily find a transaction on paypal.

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    • Profile picture of the author Clyde Dennis
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      If I give you MY transaction id for a purchase - it does nothing for you. The transaction ID the buyer receives from Paypal is different than the Seller's transaction ID. That's because the ID's are for paypal's use.

      The way to know if someone bought or not is for them to provide their PAYPAL EMAIL ADDRESS.

      kay
      Ding! Ding! Ding!

      Do everything based on their Paypal email address.
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  • Profile picture of the author jacktackett
    Thanks for the heads up.

    I also agree that automating delivery is the way to go. I've used e-junkie and it works well. I'm using Mike Lantz's system now at wsoplus and I'm very happy with it. For $10 its a great deal for WSOs. And opens up JV opportunities with Mike and the Warrior Forum itself.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
    Yeah.. I have actually done this myself but because I didn't receive direct access
    to the WSO I bought. The reason I posted the transaction ID was also because I
    had seen other people do it. I wouldn't say that everyone that does this is a scam
    because this has been done for many years at the WF.

    But there is no reason this should be of any trouble for the seller. If you see some
    one post their transaction ID just click on their name and pick send a private message.
    Ask the person for more information like their paypal email address.

    I wouldn't say this is a major problem and no one really has to become a victim if they
    just take the time to interact with their customers or have a clear line in their WSO
    that tells them to use a support desk or use PM's for these kind of situations.

    I also remember that the seller would actually ask their buyers to post the
    transaction ID in the thread to increase the post count and make their thread look
    more attractive hehe

    Ebbi
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  • Profile picture of the author tecHead
    FYI ...
    Both GetResponse and aWeber have added PayPal integration to their services.

    k.i.s.s.

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  • Profile picture of the author P.Sharma
    I always send them products to their paypal email when I recieve an email from paypal stating that I have got a payment. Some people just don't respect that it takes to write a truly wonderful WSO and share somebody else's hard work with a bunch of broke people
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  • Profile picture of the author ecoverartist
    I just use DLGuard (dlguard.com) and automate the whole thing. They can post transaction IDs to their heart's content but they won't get a download link unless they bought
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Farmer
      I use e-junkie also. What I run into a lot, is that people often use a different e-mail address for their PayPal accounts and don't realize that the download link is sent to that address. I think that it's important to let them know that the product will be delivered to their PayPal address, somewhere in your sales page.
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  • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
    Seriously? People send out products without checking the payment has been received?

    I know I'm relatively new here (but not to online business, granted), but isn't it common sense?

    Thanks for the tip though, it's worth posting up for those sellers who apparently don't check something as basic as this.
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  • Profile picture of the author steveniam
    Seriously if the so call buyer give you the transaction id and you never check to verify whether he or she has bought it, you cannot blame anyone.

    It take less a minute to verify the transaction id and I suppose most marketeers know how to use the search function.

    Originally Posted by Lady NaNa View Post

    I have been keeping this to myself for some time, but since this is going overboard lately, decided to discuss openly, without mentioning any names. Just a short note to ALL WSO sellars - When someone claims to have 'bought' your product/service and gives you their 'Purchase Transaction ID', do your due dilligence and check if the person really bought or just issued a fake transaction ID, anticipating that you will send him or her the product download link. Many sellars are too busy to check and authenticate if the purchase was really made, and unwittingly send these fakers the product download link.

    Thanks For Reading,

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      The reason I posted the transaction ID was also because I
      had seen other people do it. I wouldn't say that everyone that does this is a scam
      because this has been done for many years at the WF.

      Some time ago WSO sellers would TELL people to "post your transaction details and I'll send you the link". They did it only to get more posts which bumped their threads to the top and because having more "responses" made their thread look more important.

      Allen changed it so that WSO threads can't be bumped with every post made.

      But many of those old threads can still be seen and others think they "should post" their details so the useless tactic just keeps going.

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      • Profile picture of the author Robyn8243
        Never could understand why anybody would not deliver with some type of automation...other than having an excuse to add comments to the thread. "I paid and did not get the link" +
        "Just sent the link" adds up to a popular looking thread pretty fast.

        Still sometimes there is a wrench in the system...people accidentally close download page
        before they finish downloading or whatever.

        Always a good idea to check for payment confirmation before sending a link.

        Based on some of the money making suggestions I have read recently which include all kinds
        of ways to make money by scamming people, I would not be surprised if there is not some
        report bouncing around telling people to use this "transaction id" technique to get free WSOs or other products.

        Thanks for the reminder.

        Robyn
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          If somebody gives you their transaction ID, you can still find the transaction
          by entering it into a PayPal search. It cross indexes their ID against your ID
          and finds the transaction. If there is no match, there'll be nothing to find.

          Bottom line...don't just take somebody's word for it.

          Look it up...it takes 2 minutes.
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          • Profile picture of the author zapseo
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            If somebody gives you their transaction ID, you can still find the transaction
            by entering it into a PayPal search. It cross indexes their ID against your ID
            and finds the transaction. If there is no match, there'll be nothing to find.

            Bottom line...don't just take somebody's word for it.

            Look it up...it takes 2 minutes.
            Right. It usually takes 1 minute just to log into the darn thing. LOL.
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            Thanks Steven, you read my mind. Also, I only use Pay Pal because it's proven to be the most secure form of transacting and dispute handling.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mark-Dickenson
              I busted a few people doing that.

              They sent me the Paypal transaction and I Pm'd them asking to send me the paypal email and never heard from them again

              Imagine that lol
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              • Profile picture of the author Aitor Astobieta
                Incredible how low some people can go.

                Thanks for warning us about this.
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              • Profile picture of the author Tom Brite
                Originally Posted by Mark-Dickenson View Post

                I busted a few people doing that.

                They sent me the Paypal transaction and I Pm'd them asking to send me the paypal email and never heard from them again

                Imagine that lol
                Are you joking!

                Your products only $7... you mean they would prefer to spend a minute making up a fake transaction id as well as posting and never being trusted again just to get a free product... and the waiting time between that and a reply!

                Now that is low... very low!

                Next thing they are going to be doing it for $1 products and free products too which will be funny.

                "hey i just purchased here's my transaction id: 1MAB1GL13R1D1DNTP4Y"

                "oh... but this products free!"

                Tom Brite

                P.S. Anyone notice anything lol?
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                • Profile picture of the author LegitIncomes
                  Originally Posted by Tom Brite View Post

                  Are you joking!

                  Your products only $7... you mean they would prefer to spend a minute making up a fake transaction id as well as posting and never being trusted again just to get a free product... and the waiting time between that and a reply!

                  Now that is low... very low!

                  Next thing they are going to be doing it for $1 products and free products too which will be funny.

                  "hey i just purchased here's my transaction id: 1MAB1GL13R1D1DNTP4Y"

                  "oh... but this products free!"


                  Tom Brite

                  P.S. Anyone notice anything lol?

                  I had a "you set the price" WSO last week. People could have paid as little as 1 cent and received the WSO (and some in fact did), but I still had people asking for review copies :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Some time ago WSO sellers would TELL people to "post your transaction details and I'll send you the link". They did it only to get more posts which bumped their threads to the top and because having more "responses" made their thread look more important.

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        There is one WSO poster who implies that
        his WSO's are rather popular based on the
        number of replies. When I double checked
        what he was saying, I discovered that the
        huge majority of replies were people being
        encouraged to post their PP transaction
        ID's, and his replies to them. I decided on
        that day to never buy this guys products.
        If he can misrepresent the truth about his
        popularity, what else can be
        misrepresented?

        Glenn
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      • Profile picture of the author zapseo
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Some time ago WSO sellers would TELL people to "post your transaction details and I'll send you the link". They did it only to get more posts which bumped their threads to the top and because having more "responses" made their thread look more important.

        Allen changed it so that WSO threads can't be bumped with every post made.

        But many of those old threads can still be seen and others think they "should post" their details so the useless tactic just keeps going.

        kay
        Boy, Kay...are you dating yourself, or what?
        Next, you'll be telling us a time when you didn't have to pay $20 to post a WSO.
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  • Profile picture of the author bhopkins
    This is interesting as someone who does not offer many WSO's I think I've done two in my entire time in the WF, I never thought of this.

    I'll plus one on the eJunkie or Allen's WarriorPro( I think it does the same as ejunkie). I used it for my last WSO and its great to not have to worry about the backend. To pay them is well worth the cost and will make your life easier.

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  • Profile picture of the author desmond11
    I haven't run a WSO yet, but I'll definately be automating the download process when the time comes. It'll eliminate this problem leaving you time tend to your business!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Parker
    WOW, I cannot believe fellow Warriors would stoop down to that level and steal. That's ridiculous!
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Brite
        Originally Posted by secretjustin View Post

        I was actually wondering this the other day. If people were doing that. I see people posting transaction ids in the threads all the time, I don't know why they would do that in the first place. Fools. But anyway...

        The WSO's here are dirt cheap and are extremely useful for most people. It's a shame there are people who go that far.

        Maybe there should be some new protocol when selling. For example, perhaps some sort of warning to users when replying to WSO threads? I was thinking of a pop-up but would be irritating. Maybe some sort of RED LABEL just above the user input message box. " WARNING: Posting your transaction # or other personal ordering information is forbidden. Please contact the seller directly with your ordering or transaction # If you have comments or questions regarding such. K thanks."
        Or even better just make it a rule that you have to send a PM or email the owner! and that you have to include an email address on your profile or whatever. If not you get an infraction and banned if you continue.

        That will put a big stop to it all!

        Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

        There is one WSO poster who implies that
        his WSO's are rather popular based on the
        number of replies. When I double checked
        what he was saying, I discovered that the
        huge majority of replies were people being
        encouraged to post their PP transaction
        ID's, and his replies to them. I decided on
        that day to never buy this guys products.
        If he can misrepresent the truth about his
        popularity, what else can be
        misrepresented?

        Glenn
        Glenn your right there!

        For me and im sure many other warriors it actually makes us not buy it and turn away, i hate having to open a support ticket or contact the owner of a product i purchased and then having to wait for the actual download.

        Try and avoid that seller next time too, even worse is when they are online and don't reply to you probably hoping you will post in their thread and 'bump' it up.

        Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

        They're not real Warriors - they're parasites that will never understand or achieve the level of success real Warriors do.
        Well Said!

        I know Imran is a big believer too that anyone who gets a product for free actually doesn't 'profit' from it as much as someone who pay's for exactly the same thing.

        Of course there are always people who do but the % is even smaller than if you buy it.

        Oh well... enjoy being rich everyone else

        Tom Brite
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by Tom Brite View Post

          Or even better just make it a rule that you have to send a PM or email the owner! and that you have to include an email address on your profile or whatever. If not you get an infraction and banned if you continue.
          Some people may not have enough posts to send a PM, so eMail would be the only option for them. If you go that route, I would think it would need to be a requirement that sellers post contact details in their WSO. If it's hidden away in their profile, newbies may not be able to find it easily (or know to look there), so it'll just add to the frustration of anyone who legitimately purchased a WSO and had problems receiving it.
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  • Thanks for the heads up!

    I will definitely start checking those transaction ID's!
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  • Profile picture of the author zapseo
    The ways people choose to deceive has been raised to an art form.

    Sometimes I think there are some people in NLP community who are responsible.

    If you haven't seen "Lie To Me" (US TV Series) -- check it out.

    OTOH, if you truly want to see something frightening about the limits (or lack thereof) to persuasion -- get your hands on a copy of Derren Brown's "The Heist." Sometimes it shows up on video sites. You want to watch the whole thing...about 60 minutes, I think. The abbreviated versions don't do it justice.

    For truly ethical persuasion, check out Robert Cialdini's Institute, forgot the name offhand.

    Part of the problem, of course, is that what is lying to some is justified as righteous in the mind of the liar. Same with the stealing. "Those people are stealing from me because they are selling me crap."

    I am in NO WAY justifying the thinking...just trying to help people understand how that thinking works.

    And if you think the one or two pseudo-refunders are the problem, you have NO IDEA of the depth of the "marketplace" (term used very loosely) in illegally obtained WSOs. One of the surest way to make no money with your wso is to keep it from having any kind of download link protection.

    It's one of the first things I ask my clients -- "What are you using for download protection for your product."

    If they don't have it, it can drive "conversion rates" to zero.
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    • Profile picture of the author DogScout
      Originally Posted by zapseo View Post

      The ways people choose to deceive has been raised to an art form.

      Sometimes I think there are some people in NLP community who are responsible.

      If you haven't seen "Lie To Me" (US TV Series) -- check it out.

      OTOH, if you truly want to see something frightening about the limits (or lack thereof) to persuasion -- get your hands on a copy of Derren Brown's "The Heist." Sometimes it shows up on video sites. You want to watch the whole thing...about 60 minutes, I think. The abbreviated versions don't do it justice.

      For truly ethical persuasion, check out Robert Cialdini's Institute, forgot the name offhand.

      Part of the problem, of course, is that what is lying to some is justified as righteous in the mind of the liar. Same with the stealing. "Those people are stealing from me because they are selling me crap."

      I am in NO WAY justifying the thinking...just trying to help people understand how that thinking works.

      And if you think the one or two pseudo-refunders are the problem, you have NO IDEA of the depth of the "marketplace" (term used very loosely) in illegally obtained WSOs. One of the surest way to make no money with your wso is to keep it from having any kind of download link protection.

      It's one of the first things I ask my clients -- "What are you using for download protection for your product."

      If they don't have it, it can drive "conversion rates" to zero.
      The recent stats say 15% of the US population are certifiable sociopaths.

      (This number is now triple what is was 10 years ago, there is some way we are raising our young that is causing this anomaly to grow exponentially. Or maybe it is TV, not sure and though studies have been done on TV's increase of ADHD & ADD, no studies have YET linked TV content with the rise in sociopaths as a percentage of population.)

      Sociopaths have no conscience and no regret over saying or acting in any inappropriate manner, such as stealing or lying. They are immune to feelings of regret entirely. So it is not surprising this goes on (to me) and though one would like to think the Warrior Forum members were a cut above, with the price of admittance only $10, that is an unlikely scenario.

      (Yes, I know what 'they' say about stats, but it is true... look it up. And yes I am also aware 15% of the people that read this will be sociopaths.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Josiah
    Happened to me twice in the past few days...

    First time I fell for it...

    But Imran Naseem warned me about it (thanks buddy!)

    it's low, yes but it's our job to do the due diligence!

    Josiah
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  • Profile picture of the author warrior2008
    Yes, I had two from Korea 6 months ago. They B*tched and Moaned about "NO" value in my $4.95 44+ products and then I saw what they were doing. % bucks here, $10 bucks there. I called them on the 'Purchase Transaction ID' over and over but they disappeared... and quickly after I could not verify it. One sent me his but NOPE... he was scamming!


    Why we are on the subject. Anyone having trouble on the WSO forum moving down like lightning? I moved 2/3 down the forum in 2 hours from the time I sent in my $20. Over 1/3 down in like 40 minutes. Am I seeing things or is this just where the cards fell? Are some mods approving tons of offers too fast there? Please let me know what has changed, if anything.

    Cheers,

    Warrior2008
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Brite
      Originally Posted by warrior2008 View Post

      Why we are on the subject. Anyone having trouble on the WSO forum moving down like lightning? I moved 2/3 down the forum in 2 hours from the time I sent in my $20. Over 1/3 down in like 40 minutes. Am I seeing things or is this just where the cards fell? Are some mods approving tons of offers too fast there? Please let me know what has changed, if anything.
      Well since the new system has come in it seems both the number of wso's and the number of times people bump their wso has increased a hell of alot!

      Ok there are more people looking at the wso section than ever but now the 'trick' is to create a succesful wso and then get allen to partner with you for maximum exposure and profit.

      I remember however about 6 to 8 months ago the wso was fast moving so im wondering if its because we had another influx of a few wso's teaching others how to make wso's and the ebook creation services are on the rise again too.

      Bad for wso sellers really but then if you have a good product then the $20 fee should be nothing unless your wso is free (but then surely you profit from the list creation).

      Now regarding wso approval times and them being done in batch order moderation im not too sure but i submitted my wso for approval about an hour ago and am still waiting for the payment pm so i can take it live so hoping it will be soon.

      But then again also maybe you are just submitting your wso or bumping it at the wrong times... there are more wso's and alot more longer wso's that are being re-bumped over and over but also there are times where the wso section is slower moving too.

      Maybe someone who has released alot of new wso's recently can come in and answer the approval question for you.

      Tom Brite
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      I went to page three in less than 24 hours . This being my first contribution to the WSO section I thought it was par for the course .

      Originally Posted by warrior2008 View Post

      Yes, I had two from Korea 6 months ago. They B*tched and Moaned about "NO" value in my $4.95 44+ products and then I saw what they were doing. % bucks here, $10 bucks there. I called them on the 'Purchase Transaction ID' over and over but they disappeared... and quickly after I could not verify it. One sent me his but NOPE... he was scamming!


      Why we are on the subject. Anyone having trouble on the WSO forum moving down like lightning? I moved 2/3 down the forum in 2 hours from the time I sent in my $20. Over 1/3 down in like 40 minutes. Am I seeing things or is this just where the cards fell? Are some mods approving tons of offers too fast there? Please let me know what has changed, if anything.

      Cheers,

      Warrior2008
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        pay $20 to post a WSO
        you're kidding! Really?

        Oh wait - do you mean those days when a WSO actually stayed on the first page for more than an hour?

        I think it's funny that people will resort to trying to "steal" a WSO - they probably work harder at that than we do at working!

        kay
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
      Originally Posted by warrior2008 View Post


      8< snipped

      Why we are on the subject. Anyone having trouble on the WSO forum moving down like lightning? I moved 2/3 down the forum in 2 hours from the time I sent in my $20. Over 1/3 down in like 40 minutes. Am I seeing things or is this just where the cards fell? Are some mods approving tons of offers too fast there? Please let me know what has changed, if anything.
      This is par for the course. One simple
      rule change would help where only
      one WSO per person in the top 3
      pages would slow things down
      quite a bit.

      Glenn
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      • Profile picture of the author garyv
        Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

        This is par for the course. One simple
        rule change would help where only
        one WSO per person in the top 3
        pages would slow things down
        quite a bit.

        Glenn
        It might also help to break the wso section up into more categories, if possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    I get all my paypal transactions in my main email so I know if a order was done or not. There is at times (very rare) that paypal may not send an email but for the most part I get all mine and they are filled in the proper folders.

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author John Atkins
    Yeah, it happens to me a lot. There were about 10 clowns
    recently that contacted me because their download link was not
    delivered.

    I told them to provide me with the e-mail that they paid me with
    of course, so that I can send it there (after I check on paypal that
    I did recieve a payment from that e-mail).

    Instead of sending me the e-mail address, they sent me some
    "made up" transaction details.

    Of course, I won't fall for that. Only an idiot would.

    Anyway, keep them coming mates!

    You're keeping me entertained!

    Cheers,
    Johnny
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  • Profile picture of the author Josiah
    Does someone have the link for WarriorPro please?
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  • Profile picture of the author KRA-12
    So does e-junkie.com allow you to direct deposit to a personal pay pal account? How Fast?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Does someone have the link for WarriorPro please?
      Warriorpro.com - who would have thunk it?
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Murphy
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Warriorpro.com - who would have thunk it?
        I completely agree - Warriorpro is definitely a suitable solution to prevent this type of thing from happening.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    You need to check for the name the buyer bought under, too -- I had a sale and my download link wasn't working. One person bought then sent me a pm that he didn't get the link and gave me a po number. I couldn't find that po# anywhere - so told him the sale wasn't showing up. It turns out that HE DID purchase - his name and money were there......the po number was wrong. Not sure if the mistake was his or pay-pals, but if I hadn't checked it out further I would have ended up cheating someone out of a product. So it works both ways.
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  • Profile picture of the author Leron Ford
    I don't post the transaction id. To me, it's easier to just forward the email that paypal sends you as your receipt. That eliminates all doubt in my opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Murphy
      Originally Posted by Leron Ford View Post

      I don't post the transaction id. To me, it's easier to just forward the email that paypal sends you as your receipt. That eliminates all doubt in my opinion.
      Yes, that is a great idea and a constructive way to curb this kind of behaviour. Forwarding the entire transaction email definitely eliminates any doubts of purchase fraud.
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  • Profile picture of the author DAS_Matt
    Please expose anyone who does this to you.
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