I am PISSED and NEED YOUR HELP With THIS THIEF!!!!!!!!!

by Sean A McAlister 45 replies
Ok Warriors.....

FIRST
I AM NOT TRYING TO PROMOTE ANYTHING HERE
>....You Already know about the Golden Thread by Michael Cheney...

I AM PISSED and NEED ADVICE!
Thats It!
This Guy Took My Video I produced and own the the MUSIC Copy Rights and production rights....and slapped it up on YouTube.

I have reported him to YouTube for copyright infringement....started posting all over his sites...NOW he is moderating....I am considering sending Cheney a email...but he is slammed and this really is not his problem except for the fact that he has a THIEF Promoting his product.

I am all for healthy competition. But this is over the top.

THIS IS MINE





HERE IS THIS IDIOTS VERSION!

REMOVED...AS I DO NOT WANT HIS VIEWS TO INCREASE AND YOUTUBE AS NOT REMOVED IT
YET

What else can I do with this?????


I am so jacked off right now....My hope is that YouTube will get this down ASAP...but they work slowly.

Any advice would be appreciated.


Thanks
Sean
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
    Sean, see if you can find this person's contact info. Email him, PM him, do
    whatever you can and read him the riot act. Threaten so sue him.

    You don't have to follow through but sometimes just the threat is enough
    to get him to back down and remove it.

    All Youtube members do have member names and I think they have an email
    function where you can contact them. I suggest you go straight to the
    horses mouth on this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
      Thanks Steven,

      I am in that process now...

      I have sent him a message and am posting complaints everywhere I can,
      His Youtube account, his website....

      I have threatened him with a law suit....and I am trying to figure out how else I can find out his identity...
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      • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
        Do you think it would be prudent to email Michael and ask him

        if he has any info on this Jack ASS?

        Thanks
        Sean
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

          Do you think it would be prudent to email Michael and ask him

          if he has any info on this Jack ASS?

          Thanks
          Sean
          Sean, here's a thought. If he's promoting the video to make a sale, he must
          have a link in the description, right?

          If he does, copy it down, get the whois info and email the hosting company.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            Sean, here's a thought. If he's promoting the video to make a sale, he must
            have a link in the description, right?

            If he does, copy it down, get the whois info and email the hosting company.

            thats is true...I am not that great with the back office stuff here....

            What can they do?

            Thanks
            Sean
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            • Profile picture of the author Sean Donahoe
              You can issue a complete DMCA to the hosts of the website via the info you got from Steven. They are required by law (if they are in the US) to take action, it can be slow and it does require proof of copyright but they will act if a copyright infringement is proven.

              I actually posted a long item last night about digital download theft that does not really apply to videos but may also offer some insight:

              http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ou-profit.html
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              • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
                Originally Posted by Josef Benjamin View Post

                lol, push against hard enough...and he may push back harder.

                Your a smart guy, your succesful, and you know this to be true.

                Best thing to do is ignore it and go about focusing on your campaign.
                DUDE...ARE YOU FOR REAL???? HE might push back harder? HE HAS GOT NOTHING BUT A BLATANT COPYRIGHT VIOLATION.


                Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                Sean, I'm sending you the whois info via PM
                Thanks Steven...and Blue Squares!!!!!! I have sent 2 emails to his personal account

                Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

                I can appreciate your sentiments, but why should he

                It's his video and its been pinched. You have to make a stand against this type of thing otherwise the whole IM thing will fall into anarchy

                Kim
                YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!!!. This kinda CHIT NEEDS STOPPED. And Yes it is inevitable BUT...As Steven Pointed out this is isolated...and I AM GOING TO MAKE HIS LIFE HELL.

                Originally Posted by Sean Donahoe View Post

                You can issue a complete DMCA to the hosts of the website via the info you got from Steven. They are required by law (if they are in the US) to take action, it can be slow and it does require proof of copyright but they will act if a copyright infringement is proven.
                Thanks Sean....I have not read your post yet...I am sure you explain DMCA there...if not..could you elaborate here?

                I actually posted a long item last night about digital download theft that does not really apply to videos but may also offer some insight:

                http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ou-profit.html
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        • Profile picture of the author Lance K
          Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

          Do you think it would be prudent to email Michael and ask him

          if he has any info on this Jack ASS?

          Thanks
          Sean

          Absolutely.

          Especially since he can check his traffic/affiliate logs and give you credit for any affiliate sales this person makes as a result of using your video.

          I would for sure reach out to Michael and/or whoever he has managing his affiliate program. That's the easiest way to resolution IMO.
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    I just sent his name, address and email via PM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Originally Posted by Josef Benjamin View Post

    lol, push against hard enough...and he may push back harder.

    Your a smart guy, your succesful, and you know this to be true.

    Best thing to do is ignore it and go about focusing on your campaign.
    I can appreciate your sentiments, but why should he

    It's his video and its been pinched. You have to make a stand against this type of thing otherwise the whole IM thing will fall into anarchy

    Kim
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosGarcia
      Hey Sean,

      Here's all the info I was able to dig up.

      INFO REMOVED, MATTER TAKEN CARE OF

      Call them, show them your evidence, it shouldn't be too long before
      they shut him down.

      Don't bother contacting him, and getting worked up, get his hosting & domain name shut down instead.

      He won't know what hit him! That'll teach him not to blatantly steal your video.

      If I'm not supposed to post this info here, let me know...

      Good luck, and stay positive, you'll have a laugh when his site's gone.

      I've been through it plenty of times, and getting them shut down is
      the best thing to do.

      I once had a lady who copied my entire website word for word, my testimonials,
      my products, autoresponder series, within a couple days she had no website,
      no domain name, and no hosting.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
        Originally Posted by CarlosGarcia View Post

        Hey Sean,

        Here's all the info I was able to dig up.

        Domain Tools Link

        His DNS Name Servers info is at:
        Host-care.com - Host Care

        I believe this is his registrar.
        Zoneedit.com Registrar

        I'm pretty certain that this is his host:
        Domain Name Registration, Website Hosting Plans and More - Dotster

        Call them, show them your evidence, it shouldn't be too long before
        they shut him down.

        Don't bother contacting him, and getting worked up, get his hosting & domain name shut down instead.

        He won't know what hit him! That'll teach him not to blatantly steal your video.

        If I'm not supposed to post this info here, let me know...

        Good luck, and stay positive, you'll have a laugh when his site's gone.

        I've been through it plenty of times, and getting them shut down is
        the best thing to do.

        I once had a lady who copied my entire website word for word, my testimonials,
        my products, autoresponder series, within a couple days she had no website,
        domain name, or hosting.
        Carlos...Thanks

        I am going to call them now....what do I need to have as far as his info.

        Steven and Blue Sqaures helped me out there I have all of his other info
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        • Profile picture of the author CarlosGarcia
          Here's how I would go about it...

          First, you want to be cool, calm and collected, seeking assistance in the matter.

          Call the host & Domain Registrar, and tell them that one of their clients has
          just infringed several copyright laws, and has stolen your intellectual property,
          and you can prove it, and you require their immediate action.

          Tell them that you will gladly provide the ORIGINAL video files that were used
          to create the video, tell them how you made the video, how hard you worked
          on the video, and how disappointed you are that one of their customers
          just blatantly stole your hard work.

          Point them to your website, or YouTube link, etc. Then show what this
          guy has done as well, and let them decide.

          Secondly, ask them if they need to verify that you're the rightful owner,
          to contact this person to provide the original source files for the video,
          and or ask how they created the video in question.

          If he fails to provide undeniable proof that he created that video, which
          clearly he can not, you kindly request that they take immediate action in
          shutting down this website, because this behavior can not be tolerated, and
          if he's done it to you, he's likely done it to others, and will likely do it again,
          and they can't risk hosting this website any longer.

          Last but not least, point them to this thread, and let them know that you're
          documenting their actions, and informing other Internet Marketers on
          the actions they have taken, and how they dealt with the situation.

          You trust that they will do the right thing here.

          Ball is in their court, and you await their response in the matter,
          so you can update us on the actions they have taken.

          Rinse and repeat with the Domain Registrar.

          Hosting companies, and Domain registrars do not tolerate clients
          who commit fraudulent activities, and they need to do the right thing,
          to protect themselves from these sort of customers, and to protect
          others' intellectual property.

          I'm sure you've picked up on the whole psychology behind everything listed above.

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    Originally Posted by Josef Benjamin View Post

    lol, push against hard enough...and he may push back harder.

    Your a smart guy, your succesful, and you know this to be true.

    Best thing to do is ignore it and go about focusing on your campaign.
    I agree it's hard to go after everybody who steals your stuff, especially digital downloads, but this is an isolated incident with one person who is easily tracked. So in this case, I say he should most definitely make a case out of it. Otherwise, as Kim has stated above, we're all in for a world of hurt.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fendi Salim
    While you are at it, just to let you know you missed an "R" in OPPORTUNITY at 0:28 and the thief blatantly did not even bother checking...

    Oops it should be "AN OPPORTUNITY" as well...

    1:13 wrong spelling for "Involved"

    ...not that it would be of any help to your current issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Glenn Newsome
    Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

    Ok Warriors.....

    I AM PISSED and NEED ADVICE!
    Thats It!
    This Guy Took My Video

    What else can I do with this?????


    I am so jacked off right now....My hope is that YouTube will get this down ASAP...but they work slowly.

    Any advice would be appreciated.


    Thanks
    Sean
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  • Profile picture of the author Sean Donahoe
    The DMCA is the "Digital Millenium Copyright Act" basically it allows hosts to act to remove copyrighted material and avoid potential lawsuits.

    Digital Millennium Copyright Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The basic process follows this process:

    1. You issues a copyright violation with the host with the threat of legal action if they do not act to remove the copyrighted material, provide proof of copyright violation, dates of publishing etc. Give anything that proves your case. You may even have a lawyer approach them rather than your self to give it wieght.

    2. They will contact you with any requests for extra information and any copyright violation policies.

    3. Once they process this request, they will contact the offending party requesting they remove the material.

    4. If they do not remove the content within a specific timeframe they will either disable public access to the page or remove the offending content themselves (in the case of YouTube for example).

    They usually move a lot faster for larger know brands (Coca Cola, Nike, etc) as they do have unlimited budgets and massive teams of lawyers. However, the smaller guys have a harder time and have to jump through a few hoops to "Prove" that they have had their intelectual property and copyright violated. So show direct comparisons, quote any trademarks you may possess, show them any sites that may not fall under their jurisdiction to show exactly how they have copied you.

    I hope this helps and I wish you all the best for getting this sorted out, people who do this are dispicalble and need to be held to task.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris_King
    Did you "whois" his website to get some contact info? If you are able to get something, you can e-mail him and tell him you know his address, phone, etc, and your threats will sound more real.

    I once caught somebody who copied one of my review sites word for word. I got his info through whois, sent him a message telling him his full name, address, and phone and that I will sue. I then contacted the hosting company of his website and let them know. 2 days later the site was gone.

    As far as the video, I don't know if youtube will be that responsive as you aren't a giant corporation.

    Best of luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
      This is out of control now....

      He is using my own video to compete with my own video on google first pages

      just found another one.


      I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO MAD
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      • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
        Ok ...So I how do I find out what his

        PAYDOT ID IS?


        Just spoke with Michael.....going to try and block him

        Sean
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

        This is out of control now....

        He is using my own video to compete with my own video on google first pages

        just found another one.


        I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO MAD
        Sean, don't get mad. Just deal with the problem. Contact him, contact his
        web host and have him shut down. That's all. Just methodically go about
        this. I know it's hard but trust me, I am speaking from experience. If you
        don't keep your head and deal with this efficiently you're going to end up
        with even more problems.

        If you need help with anything, let me know. I have no problems emailing
        him in your behalf. I'd assume not disclose the details of what I will say in
        this thread as I don't recommend these tactics for those who don't have
        the stomach for them.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          If you need help with anything, let me know. I have no problems emailing
          him in your behalf. I'd assume not disclose the details of what I will say in
          this thread as I don't recommend these tactics for those who don't have
          the stomach for them.

          Steven.,

          THANK YOU....I will take any help that you are willing to offer.
          I am consumed with this now...Found 3 other version...On the Phone..Contacting Michael....BILLY-THE IDIOT.....anything and everyone.

          I have been working my ass off for first page ranking and this guy
          is sabotaging me with my own Video....*******


          Do you still have my personal email?
          Let me know if you need it

          Thanks
          Sean
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      • Profile picture of the author Simon_Sezs
        Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

        This is out of control now....

        He is using my own video to compete with my own video on google first pages

        just found another one.


        I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO MAD
        The simple solution is to watermark your videos all the way through. This will stop most marketers from even thinking about stealing your work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Emailrevealer
    Hi Sean
    I'm not sure if you know this but I'm a PI and I specialize in tracing emails and locating and identifying owners of websites and such for cyberstalking and fraud cases.
    It looks like a couple of Warrior Sleuths beat me to it but I can offer you some free advice.

    One thing that I know to be true about online disputes like this.When it comes to confronting the offender do it by snail mail. Certified letter. In fact spend the $50 bucks to get a lawyer to write it.
    People online think they're anonymous and treat their online behavior with an "anything goes attitude".
    An email even if it reveals you know his name and address is not as effective as a snail mail letter in his mailbox. The weight of a certified letter is a thousand times more than just another threatening email.

    Good luck and if you need some advice PM me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Emailrevealer View Post

      Hi Sean
      I'm not sure if you know this but I'm a PI and I specialize in tracing emails and locating and identifying owners of websites and such for cyberstalking and fraud cases.
      It looks like a couple of Warrior Sleuths beat me to it but I can offer you some free advice.

      One thing that I know to be true about online disputes like this.When it comes to confronting the offender do it by snail mail. Certified letter. In fact spend the $50 bucks to get a lawyer to write it.
      People online think they're anonymous and treat their online behavior with an "anything goes attitude".
      An email even if it reveals you know his name and address is not as effective as a snail mail letter in his mailbox. The weight of a certified letter is a thousand times more than just another threatening email.

      Good luck and if you need some advice PM me.

      Sean, believe it or not, I agree with this 100% and will be a lot more
      effective than what I intend to do.

      Send it making sure that it is marked return receipt required, meaning he
      has to sign for it. That way you know for a fact that he got it.

      This is exactly what I would do. Sorry I didn't think of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
      Originally Posted by Emailrevealer View Post

      Hi Sean
      I'm not sure if you know this but I'm a PI and I specialize in tracing emails and locating and identifying owners of websites and such for cyberstalking and fraud cases.
      It looks like a couple of Warrior Sleuths beat me to it but I can offer you some free advice.

      One thing that I know to be true about online disputes like this.When it comes to confronting the offender do it by snail mail. Certified letter. In fact spend the $50 bucks to get a lawyer to write it.
      People online think they're anonymous and treat their online behavior with an "anything goes attitude".
      An email even if it reveals you know his name and address is not as effective as a snail mail letter in his mailbox. The weight of a certified letter is a thousand times more than just another threatening email.

      Good luck and if you need some advice PM me.

      I appreciate that...I will get to that next!!

      I probably will send you a PM shortly...simply about the content I should include.

      Steven...I sent you a pm

      I am calmed now....I agree with everyone...and from experience with situations prior....stay calm cool collected and focused. It was the initial shock factor and then the subsequent location on more videos.

      It is even more frustrating now...because after a week of promoting and HOURS of time...gaining momentum...I know have to divert my attention.

      With $998 payouts...THIS IS SERIOUS

      Sean
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  • Sean, that's terrible.

    While his YouTube is still up, I would put comments under it telling everybody that he's a blatant theif and that video is yours. PM me with his YouTube info and I'll go make some comments.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
      Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards View Post

      Sean, that's terrible.

      While his YouTube is still up, I would put comments under it telling everybody that he's a blatant theif and that video is yours. PM me with his YouTube info and I'll go make some comments.

      I did that and now he has the most discussed video for the UK today...so I want to prevent anymore promotion

      I DID GET GOOD NEWS THOUGH.....THANKS TO EVERYONE"S HELP

      Hello,

      We have suspended requested domain on the server and also informed client about the complaint and asked him to take necessary action.




      Please feel free to contact us back in case of any other information.


      Regards,

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      • Profile picture of the author CarlosGarcia
        That usually does the trick, now he has a nice suspended page up.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          I went to post a comment that this scum sucking pig stole your video but
          he's disabled comments for the video. Plus, he's changed the URL to another
          domain, cloaking it with a TinyURL link.

          I don't know if what he's promoting is the same thing because I honestly
          have no idea what the product is, so you might want to take a look at it.

          This guy is a real piece of work.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            I went to post a comment that this scum sucking pig stole your video but
            he's disabled comments for the video. Plus, he's changed the URL to another
            domain, cloaking it with a TinyURL link.

            I don't know if what he's promoting is the same thing because I honestly
            have no idea what the product is, so you might want to take a look at it.

            This guy is a real piece of work.
            Hey Steven,

            I hope that your not talking about the Guy
            with the Screen Name "TheGoldenThread1" as the scum sucking pig
            b/c that would be me and...as well as "TheIMReporter"

            he is

            YouTube - mbilal1988's Channel
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

              Hey Steven,

              I hope that your not talking about the Guy
              with the Screen Name "TheGoldenThread1" as the scum sucking pig
              b/c that would be me and...as well as "TheIMReporter"

              he is

              YouTube - mbilal1988's Channel
              You're right Sean, I did have the wrong scum sucking pig.

              Seems like there's no point of me posting anything now anyway as it appears
              you've really taken care of this weasel.

              12 comments? Wow, you ARE pissed.

              I'd love to be a fly on the wall when this guy finds out he's been shut
              down and outed to boot.

              I think his days as a marketer are long over.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
          Originally Posted by CarlosGarcia View Post

          That usually does the trick, now he has a nice suspended page up.


          MAN I FEEL BETTER......THANKS AGAIN TO EVERYONE!!!!!
          who jumped in here and helped out!!!!!!!!

          It actually happened quicker than what I thought it would!

          About 4 Hours of Intense Determination and a bit of bitching...


          Whewww!!!

          That Suspended Page is a big step towards VICTORY>


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  • That's great. Keep us posted, Sean. I can't believe the stuff that theives do...
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
      Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards View Post

      That's great. Keep us posted, Sean. I can't believe the stuff that theives do...

      I am with ya.....I can't believe that there is Actual Justice Online!!!!

      Lets see if this Joker removes the video's
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      • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
        One More Quick Question.....


        Do any of you SLEUTHS know how I might be able to track his Domain Name to video uploads? Or any way to find out where else he has uploaded.

        I have found five so far...and am contacting those sites as well as posting messages with a redirect to my site.

        Sean
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        • Profile picture of the author Simon_Sezs
          Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

          One More Quick Question.....


          Do any of you SLEUTHS know how I might be able to track his Domain Name to video uploads? Or any way to find out where else he has uploaded.

          I have found five so far...and am contacting those sites as well as posting messages with a redirect to my site.

          Sean

          Sean,

          google his youtube username and see what else comes up. Most people are very lazy and use only one username across the board. You may be able to track him in forums and message boards as well as find other email addresses, websites (from the profiles in the forum boards), ect.

          Once you find an email, google it to see if he is using it anywhere else.

          Then start to connect the dots....it is very fun and can get quite addictive.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steve Taylor
          Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

          One More Quick Question.....


          Do any of you SLEUTHS know how I might be able to track his Domain Name to video uploads? Or any way to find out where else he has uploaded.

          I have found five so far...and am contacting those sites as well as posting messages with a redirect to my site.

          Sean
          Track his titles and keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author Devan Koshal
    did you put the video up on you tube? then he ripped it from there?

    if soo, by doing that you removed the copyright to it so anybody can use that video (this is what i was told from an experienced internet marketer...)
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    • Profile picture of the author Terry Crim
      Originally Posted by Devan Koshal View Post

      did you put the video up on you tube? then he ripped it from there?

      if soo, by doing that you removed the copyright to it so anybody can use that video (this is what i was told from an experienced internet marketer...)

      This is NOT true. Check with a qualified legal professional before making claims like this. Your information is wrong.


      Thanks,

      - Terry
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      • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
        Originally Posted by Terry Crim View Post

        This is NOT true. Check with a qualified legal professional before making claims like this. Your information is wrong.


        Thanks,

        - Terry

        Terry You Are Right....

        People can take the video and embed it into their site.
        Some think that this a copyright infringement....but it is not. As long as the video is not manipulated.

        It is no different than someone taking your article from Ezine articles and publishing it...as long as they keep the details...of the author.

        And most of the people that do run into copyright infringement are those who use copyrighted material in the Production of their video...ie music, footage etc.

        This guy downloaded my video With Music that I purchased the rights too... altered the Video and inserted his information and deleted my Credits at the end. THAT IS A DIRECT VIOLATION.

        It would be one thing if he embedded my video on his site without altercation....and Shame on me if I did not include My info within the video...I would have no arguement.

        That is not the case here.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
          Another Direct Hit on Him

          Frank over at Mefeedia removed his video

          RE My Mefeedia - Your Personal Media Experience



          Persistence really does pay off and so do the suggestions of the Warriors,

          For anyone who is experiencing any type of deception, fraud, theft or the like hang in there and fight back there actually is justice@!

          And for those of you who already fight these battles my hats off to you!
          I am now a member of the club..unfortunately.
          But this is the nature of the business....and when you think it won;t happen to you it does!
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          • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
            Ok....So this Jackass just responded to my two lethal emails I sent him
            here is his relpy....

            hi mate im sorry i didnt understand the seriosness of it, i have take the video down

            you could have contacted my first you know? Without reporting me and all the rest

            anycheck the youtube video is down im sorry for offence thanks

            billy
            Can you believe the nerve?

            He did remove the Youtube video...but he has about another 7 up and running....and has the nerve to tell me that I could have contacted him first....IS HE FOR REAL?

            Now I have not reponded yet. I think that this guy is full of shit and I think that he is fully aware of what he did...And he left out the part where I told him that I am logging all of the video file sharing accounts that he is loading to and that he needs to remove those as well....

            What would you respond back with? I am ready to fire off an explosive email...but I am also involved in this first hand. I feel that the approprate thing here is to continue making a stance and pushing harder so guys like this realize that when they mess with fire they will get burnt
            alsp it may help others by keeping this guy in check....what do you think

            sean


            EDIT-

            He just responded to my second email with this

            Hey mate I hope you've got my email, ive taken all the videos down if you had just asked i would have done it, you've put me through a ton of problems and wasted alot of your time and mine

            im sorry i didnt relise anyway its all taken care of now i hope understand thanks
            .........

            so what would you do if this was you?.....you just spent 2 weeks promoting and lost 7 first page google spots..... (as well as your collegues losing spots)..(I am not opposed to losing ranking if I am out marketed but through cheating and stealing)... as a result of being bumped and lost time to fight a war you did not start?

            Second Edit

            Hey mate can you send me some confirmation that you ahave agreed to stop any actions as i have done all your requests and apoligsed ?
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            • Profile picture of the author Janet Sawyer
              Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

              EDIT-

              He just responded to my second email with this

              .........

              so what would you do if this was you?.....you just spent 2 weeks promoting and lost 7 first page google spots..... (as well as your collegues losing spots)..(I am not opposed to losing ranking if I am out marketed but through cheating and stealing)... as a result of being bumped and lost time to fight a war you did not start?

              Second Edit
              I'd work out how much it had cost me, (making sure it was an amount that could be claimed in the county court) and tell him/her/it that you are issuing an invoice to them for that amount. I'd tell them that if they didn't pay X sum within X No. of days I would pursue the matter through the court system. (only works if you are in the same country - so you'll have to find a collegue who is, and name them as your representative)

              Usually sh"1"t's them enough not to even think of doing it again, and if you do have a collegue in the same country, you could actually file the papers and the claim, depending on how ~MAD~ you feel.
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            • I've heard that "mate" thing, before. There is a website that posts warez-theft downloads of Warrior products. When I confronted the website administrator about my product posted there, I got that "sorry, mate..." thing, too. And he took the product right down. I know this is common talk in the UK, but I wonder if it's the same guy? I can PM you with the website information; I just PMed a Warrior about it this morning, because his product was posted there.

              Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

              Ok....So this Jackass just responded to my two lethal emails I sent him
              here is his relpy....

              Can you believe the nerve?

              He did remove the Youtube video...but he has about another 7 up and running....and has the nerve to tell me that I could have contacted him first....IS HE FOR REAL?

              Now I have not reponded yet. I think that this guy is full of shit and I think that he is fully aware of what he did...And he left out the part where I told him that I am logging all of the video file sharing accounts that he is loading to and that he needs to remove those as well....

              What would you respond back with? I am ready to fire off an explosive email...but I am also involved in this first hand. I feel that the approprate thing here is to continue making a stance and pushing harder so guys like this realize that when they mess with fire they will get burnt
              alsp it may help others by keeping this guy in check....what do you think

              sean


              EDIT-

              He just responded to my second email with this

              .........

              so what would you do if this was you?.....you just spent 2 weeks promoting and lost 7 first page google spots..... (as well as your collegues losing spots)..(I am not opposed to losing ranking if I am out marketed but through cheating and stealing)... as a result of being bumped and lost time to fight a war you did not start?

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              • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
                Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards View Post

                I've heard that "mate" thing, before. There is a website that posts warez-theft downloads of Warrior products. When I confronted the website administrator about my product posted there, I got that "sorry, mate..." thing, too. And he took the product right down. I know this is common talk in the UK, but I wonder if it's the same guy? I can PM you with the website information; I just PMed a Warrior about it this morning, because his product was posted there.

                Sure Angela...

                here it is
                EDIT---One of his known screen names billy786
                http://makequickcash.co.uk/... another website
                http://www.youtube.com/user/mbilal1988 Youtube channel

                To whom it may concern---SENT TO HOSTING, REGISTRAR and File Sharing Sites

                The Following Domain registered to the
                below person is in Direct Violation of
                copyright violations. (UPDATE-HIS HOSTING ACCOUNT HAS SUSPENDED HIS ACCOUNT)

                This person has STOLEN a video that I produced
                at:
                OMITTED SO NOT TO INCLUDE VID

                I am the ORIGINAL PRODUCER and OWN THE MUSIC RIGHTS
                as well as the PRODUCTION RIGHTS.

                he has manipulated the video here
                OMITTED SO NOT TO INCLUDE VID

                and is directing traffic to his site
                I have filed a Copyright Violation with YouTube.

                This person has also uploaded this video to various other
                file sharing accounts pointing to his website.

                THIS IS A VIOLATION of the "Digital Millenium Copyright Act"

                My Lawyer has been notified and we are taking appropriate action
                I have the original files if you need them

                Please advise with this matter ASAP.

                You may reach me via my personal email
                OMITTED

                Sincerely
                Sean McAlister

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            • Profile picture of the author Sean Donahoe
              Nice work Sean, glad you got the guy to take the stuff down!
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              • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
                Originally Posted by Sean Donahoe View Post

                Nice work Sean, glad you got the guy to take the stuff down!


                Thanks....now I just have to get my Google Rankings back UP!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    I think the guy got the message. Anything further will cost more than it's worth. Get back to making those awesome videos!
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    • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
      I'm guessing if you tell Michael he'll immediately revoke the guy's affiliate rights.

      Michael is an honest guy and who wants their business to be promoted by a theif?

      You know that's going to lead to trouble sooner or later.

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh
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      • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
        Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post

        I'm guessing if you tell Michael he'll immediately revoke the guy's affiliate rights.

        Michael is an honest guy and who wants their business to be promoted by a theif?

        You know that's going to lead to trouble sooner or later.

        Kindest regards,
        Andrew Cavanagh

        I have reached out to Michael...and he has been busy today with a webcast and a whole host of other things.
        I know he is busy....but I am with you Andrew....and I think this is over the top.

        He has bumped me and other respectable marketers out of rankings for a launch that is Paying out $998 a clip.
        That is not pocket change...and I stand firm that this is serious.

        Here was my first email response

        To Billy_Darr

        You have not removed ALL OF THE VIDEO's- Show quoted text -


        Furthermore....I find it difficult to believe that you did
        not realize that the time you were spending ripping
        my credits off of MY VIDEO PRODUCTION was'
        not wrong.

        This is a huge launch with THOUSANDS of dollars
        on the line; Your tactics of marketing and ILLEGAL use
        of other people content to gain google rankings is
        unethical.

        Furthermore you bumped me down in rankings as well
        as several other LEGITIMATE MARKETERS with my
        own video.

        IT is people like you that give this business a bad name.
        IT is people like you who cause people to lose money in
        this business.

        A mere apology does not cut it....especially when you lie
        in your response. I have my people investigating your other
        sites including your blogs on blog spot for copy right infringments.

        I will use Copyscape and check EVERY SINGLE ITEM THAT you
        have published to ensure that you are not profiting from other peoples
        hard work. SO I SUGGEST YOU FORGET MARKETING THE GOLDEN THREAD
        and make sure that you are not in violation with your other sites.

        Because if you are your problems will get much larger.

        THIS IS THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO MAKES LIFE TOUGH FOR THE REST OF US. THIS IS THE TYPE OF GUY THAT RIPS OFF THE NEW GUY>

        THIS IS THE TYPE OF GUY THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE AN EXAMPLE>

        It can be easy to let things like this go....

        We all talk about taking action in here.....Well I think that SLAMMING
        people like this needs to be more of the focus at times.

        A newbie...who may have just started marketing...and getting the hang of things who has a JACKASS like this come along and rip apart everything would be lost ....and it would very hard to rebuild their campaign...

        Yea...he is taking down the videos...but he still knocked me and several others out of position ....HOW MUCH MONEY IS THAT?

        Don't know...can;t measure it...but it cost some amount.

        This isnt all about money either....ITS ABOUT PRINCIPLE PEOPLE!!!!!

        I have been consumed now for over 10 hours....not because I am SUPER PISSED but because I HAD TO. If I did not this guy would still be up and running ....STEALING THE FOOD FROM MY CHILDRENS MOUTH...and any
        other Marketer in here who is promoting this campaign or any other for that matter.

        Rant Done
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  • Profile picture of the author PRandContent
    The nerve of that jackass! I'm glad you succeeded in the end!
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