After 13 years in Internet Marketing, here are my thoughts about it.

by Raja Kamil 44 replies
I started IM in 2005.
There are many ups and down.
I can say most of the time, at the beginning, hustling a lot. I mean, trying so many thing just to make money.

Here, my thought in IM.

1. Yes, you can make money. I never going to work and yet can afford to spend my money on the best education for my kids. (3 kids go to private school and I paid their school fee lumsum every year, instead of monthly).

2. Money is in the list.

3. Money is in the niche.

4. Gaming the system, not last. ie, blackhat, greyhat stuff. They work, but temporary.

5. I mentioned above money is in the list, but to be exact, an engaged list. You have to learn how to write what your list want to read, and then what you want them to listen. The flow is, Give first, take later.

6. Talking about Tools. Autoresponder. Just stick to the reputable company, ie aweber, getresponse, mailchimp etc. Same goes to many other tool. Webinar as GoToWebinar/WebinarJam. Hosting as to bluehost, hostgator etc.

7. Cheap don't last. In 2013, if I'm not mistaken, there was an offer on JVZoo, that sold unlimited space, for Lifetime for cloud storage. Like, dropbox, but Lifetime. Turn out, it didn't last even few months later.

8. Lifetime? It BS.

9. Mostly, you will end up paying more, of wasting your time for product that said "The cheapsest in town" kind of tone.

10. Learn personal financial management. It helps to sustain your money.

11. Pareto Rules of 20-80 is true for IM.

12. Consistent is important to success. Instead of jumping from niche to niche, it helps to stay focus.

13. IMHO, you make more money if you create your own product.

14. Affiliate. I started to make more money in affiliate, after launching my own product. I think it because, after launching a product, people see you as an authority in the niche. So, whatever things you say, they trust. (please don't abuse the trust)

15. Somehow, people had their BS detector. Don't BS others. Sooner or letter, they'll know.

16. IMHO, this is the flow for any business I see.
- first level : Make just enough money for survival (food, home, cloth etc)
- second level : Make extra money that you can afford cool stuff (vacation, car, house etc)
- third level : Make money that can make you money (example. Have $10 million in saving/investment that give you 5% pa, you will have $500k without doing anything.)

17. Plan to exit. Begin with end in the mind. Even you are passionate at one thing, one day, you'll lose interest in it. It is human thing, that we need new challenge . So, plan when to exit. Or, when to upgrade your business to new challenge.

18. Be graceful and humble. Don't act cocky even you can make a lot of money. You'll never know, when you'll start from bottom again.

19. Help millions, get millions.

20. Read books.

21. Experience is your best teacher.

22. Instead of make money, build buisness.

23. It doesn't need to be just US or Canada or UK or Tier 1 country to build online business. As long as you can find market that want to spend on you, you can make money wherever you are. Like myself, my english not good, so I make most of my income from my own country, Malaysia.

I have a lot in my mind about IM, but I guess that's it for now.
Still, this is my oppinion based on my experience so far.

Thanks for reading.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I make most of my income from my own country, Malaysia
    I'm not saying you don't, just curious, what market(s) are you in?

    Brent
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    11. Pareto Rules of 20-80 is true for IM.
    This is solid gold advice.

    20% of your time accounts for 80% of your results.

    Identify that 20% and GROW IT.

    Outsource, delegate, postpone, or chuck everything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    A sticky-worthy post. Great insights, Raja.

    I could happily talk about each point, but I'll isolate one:

    Originally Posted by Raja Kamil View Post

    12. Consistent is important to success. Instead of jumping from niche to niche, it helps to stay focus.
    Absolutely spot on.

    I find that consistency - across the board - is vital.

    What works for me is building my routines for each business: consistent efforts for each of the moving parts. It helps to streamline and improve workflow and productivity.

    Cracking thread!

    Cheers,

    Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonTheFreeman
    At first I was a bit skeptical since I was reading a bit of broken english. Then I read that you market in malaysia, so you must be marketing in a different language. Nevertheless you're post makes sense despite the painful english.
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  • Profile picture of the author kunlesufyan
    This is good stuff, I'm a banker and I currently offer services on fiverr but I'm constantly searching to branch out. Basically, I need a business that will pay me outside fiverr. Who can suggest? I live in Nigeria.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bukky Ogunlusi
      Cpa/Affiliate marketing works
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      • Profile picture of the author kunlesufyan
        Thank you, I am actually a member of your group on facebook. Can you suggest a mean with which I can learn this?
        thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author YourGoToWriter
    Thank you for this post it has given me different insights and useful advices on Internet Marketing and I completely agree with the points you have mentioned especially on buying cheap tools. We all know that there are many cheap options available right now. But at the end of the day, they don't last like those reputable tools. Every internet marketer should stick with those reputable tools than buy on those cheap ones.

    Loren
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    One hell of a post. Thanks man these lessons are genuine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    Your English grammar may not be perfect but your communication skills are excellent.

    Everything you wrote was insightful and understandable.

    I have a feeling that you would do just fine if you ever decided to market to an English speaking audience.

    The sad thing is that most newbies will disagree with and resist many of your points. Then it will take them years to learn the hard way or they will give up altogether.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Excellent post.

    While your English isn't perfect, you can definitely communicate effectively. I agree with Janice -- if you ever do decide to market in English, you'll do fine. I've seen many get past the ESL issue by just saying "English is not my first language, so some of what I say may sound different."

    As for

    18. Be graceful and humble. Don't act cocky even you can make a lot of money. You'll never know, when you'll start from bottom again.
    There's a retired professional wrestler in the US that likes to say "keep your words soft and sweet, because someday you may have to eat them."
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    Who cares about the English.

    This was a mighty fine post indeed!
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  • Profile picture of the author FreedomBlogger
    Hey Raja!

    These are such helpful tips!

    You are a veteran my friend. And I truly appreciate you sharing your experiences here. And what you have learned during your online marketing journey.

    Everything you are saying here is spot on. Making money online works. It's not hard. I can make money online very easy now. But, at the beginning I thought it was such a big challenge. It's not!

    It's all in the mind and in your beliefs.

    I would like to add, that you should take everything step by step and live in the moment. Work from moment to moment with your vision and goals in the background.

    Thank you so much for sharing this!

    It's super helpful to hear from guys like you!

    Best regards!
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  • Profile picture of the author Maxima123
    Great Insight Raja.Your Post is worthwhile.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinfar
    I like what you said about lifetime being bs.

    Had a similar experience with something that I had bought, paid a higher sum for a lifetime access but turned out it wasn't such a good investment after all.

    Live and learn I guess
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  • Profile picture of the author Marketing Miles
    Great valuable sharing! thanks a ton!
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by Raja Kamil View Post


    Thanks for reading.
    You sir have earned my big thumbs up

    That list I can definitely agree with!

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  • Profile picture of the author Sunil Healthcare
    I would say these are the words to read and understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Connann
    Again, the List is the true asset you can ever have.

    Of course, authority is the second, or, in other words, they are conjuction
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  • Profile picture of the author Blake12377
    Great list! Bookmarked.
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  • Profile picture of the author sravani25
    You have shared your personal opinion in more general way which is like a casual conversation between two marketing Professionals.

    I like the point you mentioned about Keep the Ending in mind, yes one should must be ready for Change, especially in IT industry you will be ready to upgrade your skillset every time else you will move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author 3936296
    Really great experiences shared....
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  • Profile picture of the author nRehman
    Well said, thanks for sharing your great experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author DiHustler
    This is a nice one.. Good to hear from someone who has being in the business for over a decade..
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  • Profile picture of the author cearionmarie
    Good tips and advice. Truly it is better to learn from those who experienced it. One thing that will still be amazing on human traits is that we will always be versatile and adapt to the changes in IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author DURABLEOILCOM
    Great quality advice remember Quitters never win and Winners never quit.
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  • Profile picture of the author jyzdesign1
    Thank you for sharing your experience. I must say some really good points here. Money matter and financial management is important because marketing is a continuous process.
    Experience is everything... totally agreed.
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  • Profile picture of the author giulio74
    thank you for sharing this
    I did not understand point 15, what do you mean by "BS"?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by giulio74 View Post

      thank you for sharing this
      I did not understand point 15, what do you mean by "BS"?
      It's an English acronym for "bullshit", the residue left over from the male bovine digestion process.
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  • Profile picture of the author gerstel22
    Very informative post, I would say focus and starting a list are the two top tips.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by Raja Kamil View Post

    I started IM in 2005.
    There are many ups and down.
    I think this is very important to call out.

    This isn't that golden industry where once you make it, you are set. There is constant change and evolution. The people who don't evolve disappear (and this happens a fair bit).

    To anyone who is starting out and having ups and downs, you are not alone. Even those who have been around for a long time still go through the struggle.
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  • Profile picture of the author tritrain
    Those are some valuable lessons and it's very nice of you to share them. I bet your customers are satisfied.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sioh Boon Yap
    Well said Raja. I think you have gone through many good and bad experience during your 13 years in IM. I am sure your sharing would be very fruitful to many people including myself. Keep it up.
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  • Hi Raja,
    I enjoyed reading your article. Well done!
    Since I am a novice in IM, I want to ask you about tips to find my niche?

    Thank you in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gronie
    Great post Raja!
    Thanks for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
    You're three years ahead of me and yes, the real money is in the list. Not just any old lists though. but one's which are targeted and that you have a proper relationship with the audience.
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    Excellent tips, thanks for sharing them!
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Solid advice from OP.

    As to the Pareto rule, it is indeed true. 20% of my websites' pages get 80% of the traffic. My current experiment is to focus on these pages, instead of writing new content.
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