March 1st - Important Changes to Market Place

by Gabriel Administrator
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hi all

I just wanted to let you know that we have spent hours and hours, talking to some of you guys, about your requests to have a more flexible market place -- while keeping the integrity and the quality of the products -- we approve.

It hasn't been easy.

Every time we make a change we have 50% of people that love it... 50% that hate it

So we have decided to allowed the following products into the Market Place

1. Affiliate products

Yes we are going to give green-light for you to promote your affiliate product.

This represents a challenge by default.
how do we prevent having 10 WSO offers from 10 different warriors with the same type of "affiliate" ...

Again please remember that we reserve to reject and approve any offer we deem that we dont want to be in the marketplace.... and if it doesn't fit in then market place ** the underground ** it's another option for some products out there that don't pass our quality standards.

The answer is:
First arrived --> first served

If the product hasn't been promoted before: you have the greenlight to promote it.

2. We are opening the doors to FREE WSO.

Now... here is the catch ...
FREE WSO are subject to free offers without any OTO, or upsell.

We understand that FREE WSO are used to build brand, audience, etc...

So we are okay with it, if we determine the WSO product or giveaway follows our quality standards.

Each FREE WSO will be approved manually and we will verify the quality of each free offer.

If we determine the quality is low... or brings very little value to the Warrior Audience it will be rejected from the market place.

Thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Awesome developments!

    Quick question: Where should we submit FREE WSOs? In the main WSO marketplace?
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      Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

      Awesome developments!

      Quick question: Where should we submit FREE WSOs? In the main WSO marketplace?
      Yes Sir ... in the the main marketplace
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  • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
    Gabe may I suggest you Sticky the thread or it will drop like a stone !
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      Originally Posted by Regional Warrior View Post

      Gabe may I suggest you Sticky the thread or it will drop like a stone !
      yeah mate, good point. Thx .
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Not sure I understand the Free WSO restriction. Are free WSOs cheaper to advertise at WF? If I am paying the same cost why can't I do an upsell as long as its not mandated (forcing a paid sale)?

    Also Are you concerned at all that offering affiliate products falsely advertises an offer really being a WSO . Special offrers aren't special if its just affiliate stuff that can be had elsewhere for the same or less price.
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      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Not sure I understand the Free WSO restriction. Are free WSOs cheaper to advertise at WF? If I am paying the same cost why can't I do an upsell as long as its not mandated (forcing a paid sale)?

      Also Are you concerned at all that offering affiliate products falsely advertises an offer really being a WSO . Special offrers aren't special if its just affiliate stuff that can be had elsewhere for the same or less price.

      It's a fair point

      I think we struggle with the concept of WSO

      WSO is an old word , so we are not really focusing on "the special" part, we are not making compulsory that the offer is "unique" for the Warrior Forum.
      I will love that to be the reality but it's impossible for us to police that any offer has to be really "special"

      Regarding your question about the FREE WSO = it works the same way, but now the WSO doesn't have to be priced. It means you can launch a freebie or give something away as part of your WSO
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      • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
        Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

        It's a fair point

        I think we struggle with the concept of WSO

        WSO is an old word , so we are not really focusing on "the special" part, we are not making compulsory that the offer is "unique" for the Warrior Forum.
        I will love that to be the reality but it's impossible for us to police that any offer has to be really "special"

        Regarding your question about the FREE WSO = it works the same way, but now the WSO doesn't have to be priced. It means you can launch a freebie or give something away as part of your WSO
        Gabe I think that the WSO should enforced as a special offer that you can not get on any website or why have the name ? I am sure like most times a seller will be called out if that is the case and the mods notified

        Jason
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      • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
        Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

        It's a fair point

        I think we struggle with the concept of WSO

        WSO is an old word , so we are not really focusing on "the special" part, we are not making compulsory that the offer is "unique" for the Warrior Forum.
        Why sacrifice the old terminology and brand that WSO has?

        Could you have both WSO and other offers in the same marketplace without damaging the WSO brand?

        Perhaps a seller can apply to have "WSO" status much like another category can be "FREE" which used to be the war room offers.

        You already have the Warrior Verified badge so why not have the Warrior WSO, Warrior AFFILIATE and Warrior FREE badge?

        Personally I'm not a fan of mixing them all in together.

        If someone is paying for a listing regardless of free or paid product then the upsell path should be up to the promoter.

        The biggest problem with having free offers mixed in with the paid is the attraction of freebie seekers who just visit the section looking for free products. Is that possibly why the war room traffic shrivelled?

        You might consider a different approach where there is a minimum selling price in the WSO section.

        That might keep some of the crap out and if a seller has to live up to a minimum value it might lift the quality.

        Best regards,

        Ozi
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    Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

    ... some products out there that don't pass our quality standards.
    Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

    ... if we determine the WSO product or giveaway follows our quality standards.
    Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

    Each FREE WSO will be approved manually and we will verify the quality of each free offer.
    Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

    If we determine the quality is low... or brings very little value to the Warrior Audience it will be rejected from the market place.
    Obviously, "quality" and "quality standards" are important in cleaning up the forum marketplace since you have mentioned them multiple times here.

    I hope those standards will be published and available for all Warriors to see so that they understand, up front, what is expected by management.

    Thank you,

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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    There have been a lot of balls dropped on the enforcement of "guaranteed income" - even on new WSO's.

    At least you are open about dropping the 'special and unique'. With most WSO's now being products-made-only-for-wso - that might be a good move.

    Will be a trick to do 'first only' affiliate ads but it's a good idea. Would serve sellers better if those offers were time limited or if sellers were limited on how many 'affiliate ads' they could run as WSOs at one time. This will make the WSO much like the 'classified' (or whatever it's called now)....could we please not allow sellers to keep posting their sales page over and over in the thread?

    Will affiliate sellers be allowed to offer the same pkg of 'bonuses' on every offer they have - as they do now? What will differentiate the 'affiliate offers' in the WSO section from those in the classified section?
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  • Profile picture of the author Humphrey Vambe
    This is a positive development. Thank you so much for the opportunity.
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    I think this could be a good improvement for both veteran IMers and those just starting out with offers and building a brand.
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    You got me with Oto what does that mean?
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  • Profile picture of the author hometutor
    If I may suggest, marketers who have taken time to make a good pre-sell page should be allowed to be on the WSO even if the target product is the same as one that's already been posted. This will create competition.
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  • Profile picture of the author superowid
    Please... NO "FREE WSO"...!! Just make it at least "$1 WSO"....!! Do it fair for both buyers and sellers! Kick out those freebie-seekers all the way! Thanks.

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    Or keep the Free WSO on the classified section! Thx.
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    • Profile picture of the author hometutor
      Originally Posted by superowid View Post

      Please... NO "FREE WSO"...!! Just make it at least "$1 WSO"....!! Do it fair for both buyers and sellers! Kick out those freebie-seekers all the way! Thanks.

      PS:
      Or keep the Free WSO on the classified section! Thx.
      Good point. $2.00 per month to post in my forums gets rid of 99% of the spammers and hobbiests.

      Rick
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        Originally Posted by hometutor View Post

        Good point. $2.00 per month to post in my forums gets rid of 99% of the spammers and hobbiests.

        Rick
        Linkedin offers FREE offers
        Appsumo offers FREE offers
        I have a FREE course

        just because is FREE doesn't mean is hobbiest...

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    This is a good read! New knowledge acquired! Thanks for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author TARIK LA
    cant you help me for markting the product . and thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Asector
    There is no alternative to Warriorforum in the World for Internet marketer. In the past few years WF was out of control with fraud sellers & many buyers got scammed. But, when WF owned by Freelancer.com company, its getting more & more decent to remove the vague guy.

    Its one of the greatest offer that may lock the scammers over 80%. WF surely will be a great palace for new to older internet marketers. All the Best!

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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    NEWER - "news" about the marketplace...


    https://www.warriorforum.com/main-in...ket-place.html
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    • Profile picture of the author Gabriel
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      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      NEWER - "news" about the marketplace...


      https://www.warriorforum.com/main-in...ket-place.html

      Thanks Kay

      we have to integrate both of them to avoid confusion
      cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author ronnierokk
    I do love the new WSO Page layout. Looks more professional. Keep up the great work guys!

    Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

    hi all

    I just wanted to let you know that we have spent hours and hours, talking to some of you guys, about your requests to have a more flexible market place -- while keeping the integrity and the quality of the products -- we approve.

    It hasn't been easy.

    Every time we make a change we have 50% of people that love it... 50% that hate it

    So we have decided to allowed the following products into the Market Place

    1. Affiliate products

    Yes we are going to give green-light for you to promote your affiliate product.

    This represents a challenge by default.
    how do we prevent having 10 WSO offers from 10 different warriors with the same type of "affiliate" ...

    Again please remember that we reserve to reject and approve any offer we deem that we dont want to be in the marketplace.... and if it doesn't fit in then market place ** the underground ** it's another option for some products out there that don't pass our quality standards.

    The answer is:
    First arrived --> first served

    If the product hasn't been promoted before: you have the greenlight to promote it.

    2. We are opening the doors to FREE WSO.

    Now... here is the catch ...
    FREE WSO are subject to free offers without any OTO, or upsell.

    We understand that FREE WSO are used to build brand, audience, etc...

    So we are okay with it, if we determine the WSO product or giveaway follows our quality standards.

    Each FREE WSO will be approved manually and we will verify the quality of each free offer.

    If we determine the quality is low... or brings very little value to the Warrior Audience it will be rejected from the market place.

    Thanks again
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    This is great... Looking forward to new developments in the future
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