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by teddyjames
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Ok, I'm obviously not going to duh!! I'm on my journey to begin a FB group, and a massive one at that. I'm deciding to go into the Gluten-free niche. I've set up my page and group, targeting "gluten-free for beginners" Is there ANYBODY out there that's in this niche as well? I'm overthinking everything darnit! Not gluten-free myself, I want to be a RESOURCE for others. Provide recipes, and use other peoples questions as content...because there are A LOT of people asking questions that would make for awesome content. Should I strictly just focus on recipes? Or any other ideas that come into peoples mind?
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    If you're not gluten-free yourself, I believe you're setting yourself a harder challenge but you will need to do a LOT of research.
    For example, I write articles for a client.
    The niche is diabetes. I have diabetes so I already have a lot of knowledge.
    I'm streets ahead of my competition, not that I count anybody as competition anyway.

    I hope you see my point. There's nothing stopping you but think about it seriously before proceeding...especially when it's a Facebook group because you'll get caught out.
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    • Profile picture of the author teddyjames
      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      If you're not gluten-free yourself, I believe you're setting yourself a harder challenge but you will need to do a LOT of research.
      For example, I write articles for a client.
      The niche is diabetes. I have diabetes so I already have a lot of knowledge.
      I'm streets ahead of my competition, not that I count anybody as competition anyway.

      I hope you see my point. There's nothing stopping you but think about it seriously before proceeding...especially when it's a Facebook group because you'll get caught out.
      You're right, exactly why I had to ask this. If you can't relate it's definitely difficult. I've seen this happen before. Thank you!
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    Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

    Ok, I'm obviously not going to duh!! I'm on my journey to begin a FB group, and a massive one at that. I'm deciding to go into the Gluten-free niche. I've set up my page and group, targeting "gluten-free for beginners" Is there ANYBODY out there that's in this niche as well? I'm overthinking everything darnit! Not gluten-free myself, I want to be a RESOURCE for others. Provide recipes, and use other peoples questions as content...because there are A LOT of people asking questions that would make for awesome content. Should I strictly just focus on recipes? Or any other ideas that come into peoples mind?
    Why don't you write an ebook on a Gluten-Free life style including everything from recipes to facts and tips?
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    On the Internet, valuing recipes at a dime a dozen would be massively overvaluing them.

    A quick Google search for [gluten free recipes] gave about 3,260,000 results. Adding '+"Facebook group"' dropped that to 520,000 results. What can you offer that will let you carve out a piece of that pie, that isn't already being offered in thousands of other places?

    Even for something as niche as gluten-free, you'll need something more than recipes if you want to build a community. Not being gluten-free yourself, you either have to find another hook or lie your ass off. In a niche like that, the latter will be more difficult.

    Do you know someone with celiac or some other gluten sensitivity that you can tap for first-hand perspective?
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    Forget recipes, difficult to monetize.

    Forget the niche, you'll be bored in a week.

    Target something interesting that you enjoy and understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    As others have alluded, It's difficult to be seen as an authority on a subject if you have no personal and 1st-hand experience with it.

    Yes, some people become authority figures over time because they are committed to invest substantial time, effort, and resources into their quest ... but it's a long row to hoe if you have no passion or motivation in the subject.

    As John has mentioned, if you want to pursue this niche, it will probably be best to position your business at the "edge" of the niche (in some corner of the topic that has demand from prospects but not much supply from marketers.

    Good luck,

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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi teddyjames,

    Laurence said it buddy; without any knowledge of gluten-free living, you need to fall into absolute love with researching the niche inside-out for the next 2-4 months.

    Here's why; if you are starting from scratch, you need to gain credibility to become a trusted commodity in your FB group. Gaining credibility means spending hours every day for months reading, watching videos, taking notes and studying just like if you went to school to study a new subject.

    Imagine taking calculus for the first time; you would not ask folks on a forum if they had any experience with calculus, right? Nope; you'd take a calculus class online or at a university to get the basics on this new subject for you.

    Ditto for your gluten free group on FB. Before you teach, you must learn, and learning involves spending months:

    - reading books
    - following blogs and taking notes
    - watching videos
    - and yep, if you want to be genuine, live the gluten-free lifestyle buddy, because it's tough to be authentic unless your're living it, and folks who live gluten-free and help others, they outshine all people in their niche because this topic bleeds through their pores LOL

    Happy Gluten-Free-ing it my friend

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  • Profile picture of the author teddyjames
    Damn that was powerful! Lol! I'm going to drop the GF idea. Authenticity, that's what i want to create and be. This is hard...but i want to do this badly. The resources to grow are there...I just need the
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      Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

      I'm going to drop the GF idea. Authenticity, that's what i want to create and be. This is hard...but i want to do this badly. The resources to grow are there...I just need the
      What are your interests, what do you enjoy doing, or have done in the past. Pick something you like. See what questions people want to know and provide them the information. Thats one way to do it.
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    How do you plan on monetizing the group?
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    I have an marketing outline i want to post. I talked to this lady who started a group on "instant pots" six months in, $0 advertising, at 160k followers. She doesn't MONETIZE! She's doing it for fun, not for money. Anyway, I want to utilize giveaways and link content back to a website. She TRIPPLED her followers during Christmas doing giveaways. Now, I understand she had Moderators help too. What are your thoughts on this Idea?
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      Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

      I have an marketing outline i want to post. I talked to this lady who started a group on "instant pots" six months in, $0 advertising, at 160k followers. She doesn't MONETIZE! She's doing it for fun, not for money. Anyway, I want to utilize giveaways and link content back to a website. She TRIPPLED her followers during Christmas doing giveaways. Now, I understand she had Moderators help too. What are your thoughts on this Idea?
      Bear in mind that the Instant Pot is one of the hottest products on the planet. I wouldn't look to that to measure the potential of any other product or service. Definitely a major outlier.

      Hasn't anyone told her that money IS fun???
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      • Profile picture of the author teddyjames
        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        Bear in mind that the Instant Pot is one of the hottest products on the planet. I wouldn't look to that to measure the potential of any other product or service. Definitely a major outlier.

        Hasn't anyone told her that money IS fun???
        LOL! I KNOW! I don't understand!! Not only that, but her giving me this information cost people 2k to figure out! Calab O Dowd just came out the other week with a product on this! I won't be like "omg I'm going to do exactly this and become rich" lol! Maybe she got lucky?I'm going to be starting a thread on exactly what she told me. I told her to start a website, she told me "the groups enough on my plate" However, most people don't utilize FB from a marketing perspective. Look up "classical art memes" dude...5 MILLION followers and he simply sells shirts but only does it to make people laugh. That is true PASSION! That's why we can't think $$$ all the time. BTW people are literally giving money to him lol!
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          Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

          That is true PASSION!
          No way to know if there is any 'passion' involved, but I'd doubt it. Probably nothing more than good business sense.

          I means seriously - T-shirts? Passion? Really? And, no one is 'giving him money.' They are exchanging money for goods. You need to break this down to its most basic level.

          I'm one of those people that believes there's nothing worse you can do in life than turn something you truly love into a business. While I may be in the minority, I have first-hand knowledge of how disastrous that path can be. People need to discover things for themselves, though. I just sleep better knowing I gave them fair warning and they can never ask me why I didn't do so. :-)

          That said, I am passionate about my Instant Pot. lol
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          • Profile picture of the author teddyjames
            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

            No way to know if there is any 'passion' involved, but I'd doubt it. Probably nothing more than good business sense.

            I means seriously - T-shirts? Passion? Really? And, no one is 'giving him money.' They are exchanging money for goods. You need to break this down to its most basic level.

            I'm one of those people that believes there's nothing worse you can do in life than turn something you truly love into a business. While I may be in the minority, I have first-hand knowledge of how disastrous that path can be. That said, people need to discover things for themselves. I just sleep better knowing I gave them fair warning and they can never ask me why I didn't do so. :-)

            That said, I am passionate about my Instant Pot. lol
            Maybe we might not agree on this. I'm insinuating that people build these massive groups on an idea of building a community, not going after money. So, instead of saying "passion" you mean what exactly? What do you do? Why do you do it?
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              Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

              Maybe we might not agree on this. I'm insinuating that people build these massive groups on an idea of building a community, not going after money. So, instead of saying "passion" you mean what exactly? What do you do? Why do you do it?
              Possibly, but I don't buy this. Why are they building a community? For "peace, love and understanding???"

              No!!! They want to build a community in order to have a large number of people to which they can sell their product or service. There's a few folks here that love to wrap this reality in New Age mumbo-jumbo, but it's a hoax.

              Work is what I do to make money. Passion is what I pursue when I'm not working so I can recharge my batteries, enjoy my down-time and be in touch with the things that bring me joy. Then, I can then return to WORK in a better frame of mind to be more productive. It's not a complicated concept,
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              • Profile picture of the author teddyjames
                Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                Possibly, but I don't buy this. Why are they building a community? For "peace, love and understanding???"

                No!!! They want to build a community in order to have a large number of people to which they can sell their product or service. There's a few folks here that love to wrap this reality in New Age mumbo-jumbo, but it's a hoax.

                Work is what I do to make money. Passion is what I pursue when I'm not working so I can recharge my batteries, enjoy my down-time and be in touch with the things that bring me joy. Then, I can then return to WORK in a better frame of mind to be more productive. It's not a complicated concept,
                That's what trying to say, this lady I talked to isn't generating any sales from her group. She's not doing it for money. She has no affiliate links, no website, nothing to generate revenue. What do you mean "wrap this reality in New Age mumbo-jumbo?"
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                • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                  Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

                  That's what trying to say, this lady I talked to isn't generating any sales from her group. She's not doing it for money. She has no affiliate links, no website, nothing to generate revenue. What do you mean "wrap this reality in New Age mumbo-jumbo?"
                  So we circle back to "why do you want a massive FB group?"

                  Apparently, this lady you are so enamored by is doing it for fun, or for some reason other than making money. Whatever the reason, she IS getting something out of it.

                  What do YOU want to get out of it, if it isn't money?

                  And please, please, please, don't say, "I just want to help people."

                  Helping people and making money are not mutually exclusive. In fact, if you do it right, they go hand in hand.

                  Once you are clear on what you want to get out of building a "massive group," the means for doing so and the motivation to actually keep it going once the "shiny" rubs off will find you.
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                  • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
                    Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

                    And please, please, please, don't say, "I just want to help people."
                    Tsk, tsk. I'm disappointed in your cynicism. Don't you know that the desire to help people is the only thing required to make millions? If you focus on that, and that alone - you can't fail. Nothing else matters. It's a law of the Universe.

                    This is what I was referring to when I mentioned, "New Age mumbo-jumbo." :-)
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                      Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                      Tsk, tsk. I'm disappointed in your cynicism. Don't you know that the desire to help people is the only thing required to make millions? If you focus on that, and that alone - you can't fail. Nothing else matters. It's a law of the Universe.

                      This is what I was referring to when I mentioned, "New Age mumbo-jumbo." :-)
                      John isn't fully incorrect here, OptedIn.

                      You should have a proper monitisation plan in place before you're set out to helping people, especially in the Internet. You can't move any further without helping people but its not enough when it comes to making money online.

                      Look at Pinterest it's still being unable to figure out how to make money out of its sheer volume of traffic, inciting conflicts among investors and founders. Many successful companies shut down because they couldn't make money and eventually ran out of funds.

                      Disney once said his films got to make money to make more movies. Free and quality can't go hand to hand. Its totally free to use the Facebook but the cost is our privacy. So, does it free and is Facebook helping us or helping its own people to make more and more money.

                      Please see my other post in this thread, where I have criticized someone for the same reason.
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                  • Profile picture of the author teddyjames
                    A lady grew her group to 160k in 6 months...she told me how she did it, I want to do that.
                    If I can do that, money can be made. I DIDN'T say I didn't want to do it for money, I'm simply stating that there are many people out there not utilizing FB for business purposes that have huge groups.
                    OptedIn, passion wasn't the right term to use...I see that now. However, I want to help people would be the better way to put it. People need answers, SOLUTIONS, providing this would obviously be a means of helping them lol right!?! If you do that, people trust YOU! Ok, I'm still new and I'm gathering my ideas on who's my market and what do they want question. What niches are you guys in BTW???
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                      Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

                      A lady grew her group to 160k in 6 months...she told me how she did it, I want to do that.
                      If I can do that, money can be made. I DIDN'T say I didn't want to do it for money, I'm simply stating that there are many people out there not utilizing FB for business purposes that have huge groups.
                      Lots of wannabes say the same thing about an email list. If I can only build a list of 10,000, 20,000, whatever by giving value until I reach the number of subscribers some gooroo puled out of his backside, then I can send them offers and get rich in 10 minutes a week.

                      What really happens, more often than not, is that those subscribers (or group members) become accustomed to all this "just wanna help" content. Then, when the list owner (group owner) pitches a product, instead of gratefully rushing to buy said product, they pull up and say, "Hey, you said you just wanted to help, and you've always put out free stuff, and now you want me to buy something? What happened to just wanting to help because that's your passion? You're just like all the rest - phooey on you."

                      Many of those people out there not utilizing FB for business have huge groups BECAUSE they aren't utilizing FB for business purposes.
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            • Profile picture of the author Gambino
              Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

              Maybe we might not agree on this. I'm insinuating that people build these massive groups on an idea of building a community, not going after money. So, instead of saying "passion" you mean what exactly? What do you do? Why do you do it?
              You're probably right. Not everyone on the internet is a marketer or trying to make a living (or money) online.

              But, if you are a marketer who is looking to make money online, is a Facebook group really the ideal way to go? That's not the ideal way to go in my opinion - especially if you're selling info products. It's too easy for an online community like a Facebook group to share information and will reduce your ability to actually charge/profit from the group.

              I'm not one that believes you need to be passionate about your business. But, you do have to be passionate or at least interested in some aspect(s) that will keep you going.
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              • Profile picture of the author teddyjames
                Originally Posted by Gambino View Post

                You're probably right. Not everyone on the internet is a marketer or trying to make a living (or money) online.

                But, if you are a marketer who is looking to make money online, is a Facebook group really the ideal way to go? That's not the ideal way to go in my opinion - especially if you're selling info products. It's too easy for an online community like a Facebook group to share information and will reduce your ability to actually charge/profit from the group.

                I'm not one that believes you need to be passionate about your business. But, you do have to be passionate or at least interested in some aspect(s) that will keep you going.
                Definitely need to have interest, maybe passion wasn't the right term to use? FB is built on advertising, and people are looking for answers to their problems. Groups are in essence a way to communicate this problem and help others. By creating quality content, send them back to your website for more information. I mean, sure it's only ONE of the many ways to drive traffic. FB advertising is affordable, and one platform that's growing substantially.
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                  Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

                  Definitely need to have interest, maybe passion wasn't the right term to use? FB is built on advertising, and people are looking for answers to their problems. Groups are in essence a way to communicate this problem and help others. By creating quality content, send them back to your website for more information. I mean, sure it's only ONE of the many ways to drive traffic. FB advertising is affordable, and one platform that's growing substantially.
                  Facebook was certainly not built on advertising and I would disagree that people are looking for answers to their problems on Facebook. Facebook wouldn't have grown to what it is today if people were signing up to be advertised to.

                  Facebook was built on creating a modern day community where people can communicate and keep in touch with others. Businesses advertising is a byproduct of having a large number of people in one area.

                  I just skimmed through several popular 'Instant Pot' Facebook groups and every one of them were full of members sharing recipes with most linking to websites. But, very little interaction with the posts even in groups with 25k+ members. Why would you create a FB group as opposed to tapping into an existing one(s)?

                  I do 100% of my marketing with Facebook and Instagram but this just seems like a very long way to maybe get to a desired end result.
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                    Originally Posted by Gambino View Post

                    Facebook was certainly not built on advertising and I would disagree..
                    In short, people who are under such an impression (totally wrong) usually don't have the slightest clue how the Online world actually works.

                    Can you clarify why Google become successful (and Facebook eventually)? If your answer is "a sleek search engine", then you're totally wrong. No one would give tremendous amounts of efforts and potentially raise billions to build ONLY an search engine that would potentially outperform each and every competitors (i.e. AltaVista) in the market. What's the logic behind it? Can you tell? Don't tell a fast search engine.
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                      Originally Posted by anayb View Post

                      In short, people who are under such an impression (totally wrong) usually don't have the slightest clue how the Online world actually works.
                      I'll repeat, Facebook was not built to be an advertising platform. It was built in 2004 to be a social network and too connect people. If Facebook didn't do that - it would not exist. Because it's a popular place for people to congregate, it has been able to build revenue through ad sales - which started in 2007. Three years after Facebook was created. But, even that is a completely different argument than businesses using Facebook to advertise.

                      Originally Posted by anayb View Post

                      Can you clarify why Google become successful (and Facebook eventually)? If your answer is "a sleek search engine", then you're totally wrong.
                      Yes, easily. Google because wildly successful because it created a simple, easy way for people to provide people with the information that they're searching for. If you typed in "how to build a boat" in google and it returned information on how to get 6 pack abs, Google would be out of business. Google created a platform where people go for information, which later enabled them to sell ads.

                      Facebook became wildly successful because they created an online community in which people can keep in contact with each other. They created a place where people congregate which enables them to sell ads.

                      Originally Posted by anayb View Post

                      No one would give tremendous amounts of efforts and potentially raise billions to build ONLY an search engine that would potentially outperform each and every competitors (i.e. AltaVista) in the market. What's the logic behind it? Can you tell? Don't tell a fast search engine.
                      Start-ups launch every single day. Many/most of which will ultimately fail even after raising capital. Capital does not equate to success.
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                      • Profile picture of the author anayb
                        Originally Posted by Gambino View Post

                        I'll repeat, Facebook was not built to be an advertising platform. It was built in 2004 to be a social network and too connect people. If Facebook didn't do that - it would not exist. Because it's a popular place for people to congregate, it has been able to build revenue through ad sales - which started in 2007. Three years after Facebook was created. But, even that is a completely different argument than businesses using Facebook to advertise.



                        Yes, easily. Google because wildly successful because it created a simple, easy way for people to provide people with the information that they're searching for. If you typed in "how to build a boat" in google and it returned information on how to get 6 pack abs, Google would be out of business. Google created a platform where people go for information, which later enabled them to sell ads.

                        Facebook became wildly successful because they created an online community in which people can keep in contact with each other. They created a place where people congregate which enables them to sell ads.



                        Start-ups launch every single day. Many/most of which will ultimately fail even after raising capital. Capital does not equate to success.
                        You didn't understand a bit of the subject. Did you? You said what Google and Facebook want you to tell. My simple advise you better enlighten your knowledge, so that you can be prudent in your thought. No further argument because we both have to utilize our time properly.
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                          Originally Posted by anayb View Post

                          You didn't understand a bit of the subject. Did you? You said what Google and Facebook want you to tell. My simple advise you better enlighten your knowledge, so that you can be prudent in your thought. No further argument because we both have to utilize our time properly.
                          You're right, I didn't understand a bit of the subject.

                          I said exactly what any knowledgeable business owner knows.
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                          • Profile picture of the author anayb
                            Originally Posted by Gambino View Post

                            You're right, I didn't understand a bit of the subject.

                            I said exactly what any knowledgeable business owner knows.
                            You're not alone; many become blinded by their own vision and they succumb to narrow-minded beliefs or limited experience. This time you have become trapped in your own comfort zone. It happens all the time, so don't worry, just enlighten you up a bit. You will be alright.
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                • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
                  Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

                  Definitely need to have interest,
                  In anything you do in life, or why do it at all. Oh, wait. Maybe to make money. :-)

                  maybe passion wasn't the right term to use?
                  That word is bandied-about way too much on this forum. Many here regard it as the 'secret to success.' They believe that as long as you have passion, you simply can't fail.

                  Yes, people actually believe that. lol

                  Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

                  What do you mean "wrap this reality in New Age mumbo-jumbo?"
                  I'm sure that if you are reading the posts by a few of the regulars, here - you'll catch the drift. It's Sunday, so I'll hold my tongue. And it's not just me. Others have voiced their agreement with my assessment. Let's leave it at that, for now. I promised the Mods I wouldn't be as vociferous at voicing my take on some matters. lol

                  Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

                  That's what trying to say, this lady I talked to isn't generating any sales from her group. She's not doing it for money. She has no affiliate links, no website, nothing to generate revenue. What do you mean "wrap this reality in New Age mumbo-jumbo?"
                  There's a difference between. doing something for the enjoyment it brings you, and being passionate about it. The two do not necessarily go hand in hand.

                  I try to use words and terms, properly - although I don't always succeed in that attempt. I 'love' (for lack of a perfect word) many of the things in my life including some things I actively participate in. I can count the things I am passionate about on one hand and have a few fingers left over.

                  If you're passionate about too many things, probably best to get yourself medicated. :-)
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    It looks like you're after the money from the get-go. Analyze the competition first, millions of pages of recipe content are already indexed. You'll be easily lost in the noise, for sure. Offer something that not everybody can do, such as software as a service (saas) type product, if you're serious about the money.
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      Originally Posted by anayb View Post

      It looks like you're after the money from the get-go. Analyze the competition first, millions of pages of recipe content are already indexed. You'll be easily lost in the noise, for sure. Offer something that not everybody can do, such as software as a service (saas) type product, if you're serious about the money.
      Not entirely, I understand VALUE is key to helping others get what they're looking for. I primarily want to focus on building a group and help others. I'm going to totally drop the "gluten free " niche. I need to focus on my actual interest/passions instead of what i "think" may be profitable. It makes no sense to be in a market you know NOTHING about...I tend to want to jump into things without actually gathering insight or information which isn't smart. I know this is a journey that isn't easy, but rewards can be great!
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        Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

        Not entirely, I understand VALUE is key to helping others get what they're looking for. I primarily want to focus on building a group and help others. I'm going to totally drop the "gluten free " niche. I need to focus on my actual interest/passions instead of what i "think" may be profitable. It makes no sense to be in a market you know NOTHING about...I tend to want to jump into things without actually gathering insight or information which isn't smart. I know this is a journey that isn't easy, but rewards can be great!
        So what are you interested in? It might help with suggesting ways to monetize.
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          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          So what are you interested in? It might help with suggesting ways to monetize.
          Hey Yukon! I've been jotting down ideas, watching some Grant Cardone and others to get ideas. To be completely honest, I want to help others in some way, shape, or form. Interest grew in the network marketing niche back in 2009, I know some people are against it, but the idea of leverage and duplication caught my attention.
          I got involved in a business and left. I didn't like the idea of doing three-way calls to random people I haven't talked to in years to join this "opportunity." I abandoned the idea until recently.
          Most of these big hitters in network marketing/affiliate/ marketing have a thing in common, they have their OWN products. They get great at something, generating leads, social media marketing, copywriting, ect... This sounds corny but, it seems like there's a universal law these people who have achieved success.
          1)Figure out your interests/passions
          2)Find a problem people are having
          3)build an audience/provide value
          4)solve the problems ect..
          This is very basic, I could go into greater detail, but you get the idea. There would be no greater feeling to help people, build a business from that, and then teach my success from what challenges I've faced. I'm not even close to that stage, and I just need to take my ideas and test them out, fail, and learn my mistakes.
          Ps. Sorry my writing is all over the place! Typing from my phone! lol
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  • Profile picture of the author affmarketer101
    When you are asking this question, you are intending to quit. There is no reason to keep going. Find the most interesting niche to you, dedicate on it.
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    My only interest is helping people. I'm very "passionate" about it.

    I help them lighten their wallets.

    It really cuts down on lower back pain and keeps them from spending money on frivolous things.

    Many people tell me after my "wallet lightening" they feel so much better!

    I'm just a servant of the masses.
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  • Profile picture of the author franamico
    I wouldn.t center the group around recipes. There are so many books out there already.
    Try to narrow the niche...it must be something a lot more exclusive
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    • Profile picture of the author teddyjames
      Originally Posted by franamico View Post

      I wouldn.t center the group around recipes. There are so many books out there already.
      Try to narrow the niche...it must be something a lot more exclusive
      I'm not getting into that niche, not getting into something I can't relate to at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by franamico View Post

    I wouldn.t center the group around recipes. There are so many books out there already.
    Try to narrow the niche...it must be something a lot more exclusive
    Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

    I'm not getting into that niche, not getting into something I can't relate to at all.
    Don't worry about it, Teddy...

    He's too busy posting to get his sig out there to waste time actually reading threads. You'll see a lot of that around here. Just learn who does it and ignore them, just like the rest of us do.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

    Ok, I'm obviously not going to duh!! I'm on my journey to begin a FB group, and a massive one at that. I'm deciding to go into the Gluten-free niche. I've set up my page and group, targeting "gluten-free for beginners" Is there ANYBODY out there that's in this niche as well? I'm overthinking everything darnit! Not gluten-free myself, I want to be a RESOURCE for others. Provide recipes, and use other peoples questions as content...because there are A LOT of people asking questions that would make for awesome content. Should I strictly just focus on recipes? Or any other ideas that come into peoples mind?
    This sounds like a difficult and saturated niche.

    How are you building your Facebook group? Then once you have members, what is your strategy?
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  • Profile picture of the author Judey
    If you've seen someone who's killing it with the gluten-free niche.

    Then sure go for it.

    If not, don't start experimenting.

    Most of the people making money with Facebook groups are in Health, wealth or relationship/dating advice niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author brutecky
    Originally Posted by teddyjames View Post

    Not gluten-free myself, I want to be a RESOURCE for others. Provide recipes, and use other peoples questions as content...
    Why in the world would you start a website about something that you are not involved in? People act like niche selection is some kind of art, or science, or some kind of mystical voodoo .. niche selection for a niche site is SUPER EASY .. you pick something you love, are passionate about, or experience yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by brutecky View Post

      Why in the world would you start a website about something that you are not involved in? People act like niche selection is some kind of art, or science, or some kind of mystical voodoo .. niche selection for a niche site is SUPER EASY .. you pick something you love, are passionate about, or experience yourself.
      While you make a good point, had you continued to read the thread you would have seen that he's already come to a similar conclusion...
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  • Profile picture of the author kazimuhith
    I think you are destined to fail if you aren't interested in the your niche. You want to target Gluten-Free niche , want to make a Facebook group, but you aren't gluten-free yourself.

    Hmmm.... Good Luck, but I'm afraid you will run out of steam if you don't get any results.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by kazimuhith View Post

      I think you are destined to fail if you aren't interested in the your niche. You want to target Gluten-Free niche , want to make a Facebook group, but you aren't gluten-free yourself.

      Hmmm.... Good Luck, but I'm afraid you will run out of steam if you don't get any results.
      I suggest reading the whole thread before jumping in. People might take you more seriously.
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