finding business "wingmen"

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Top Gun 2 might be in the works. They started this whole wingmen thing. A wingman is buddy that's got your back in line of action. Someone you can count on, and someone who can count on you.

However, the wingman can also be extended to include a coach, trainer, or otherwise someone holding you accountable. Any good recommendations with this?

I can imagine a business dojo where you go to train your business skills and find out about yourself. A business Gym.

I'm going into business to develop myself. Specifically, my sense of duty, honesty, mature judgement, and to develop sound business ethics as is suitable for an owner/investor position.

I will not work for money. That is my prime rule. I will work for assets or at very least, an experience.

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Paycheck is the enemy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    TopGun did not start the 'wingman thing'. To pilots, the wingman is the guy in the plane flying in formation just behind and to the side of YOUR plane...a position where he can 'watch your back'.



    A business dojo or gym could also be a training course - or mentoring program or paid coaching.


    I will not work for money.
    Now that's just silly - unless you don't have any bills to pay.
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    • Profile picture of the author Unification
      A business dojo or gym could also be a training course - or mentoring program or paid coaching.
      paid coaching like what? any recommendations, world champion kind of people?

      Now that's just silly - unless you don't have any bills to pay.
      You got a belief here you can question. It's not wrong for you to feel you need to work for money. Just like it's not wrong for me to want to work for assets that produce incomes.

      why? bc a paycheck during a time of inflation and heavy taxation don't give you that. intelligence gives you that. working to free yourself from needing a paycheck and a pension is "money" to me. Freedom is worth working for. the belief is that a sense of freedom exists and it's worth working for.


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      P.S. you're nitpicking on the Top Gun thing.
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    Barney Stinson was his own wingman.
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  • Profile picture of the author umc
    If a paycheck is your enemy, perhaps you have the wrong view of money.
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      Originally Posted by umc View Post

      If a paycheck is your enemy, perhaps you have the wrong view of money.


      Jim is my enemy.

      But it turns out that Jim is also his own worst enemy. And the enemy of my enemy is my friend. So Jim, is actually my friend. But, because he is his own worst enemy, the enemy of my friend is my enemy so actually Jim is my enemy.

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    • Profile picture of the author Unification
      why do you think so?
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  • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
    Originally Posted by Unification View Post

    I will not work for money. That is my prime rule. I will work for assets or at very least, an experience. Paycheck is the enemy.
    Enjoy your teen years. They'll be over in the blink of an eye.
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    • Profile picture of the author Unification
      declaring the dependency of a paycheck as an enemy is not a sign of immaturity. In fact, I think the opposite is true. But perhaps I should find more common ground for the sake of extracting useful value.
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  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    You got a belief here you can question. It's not wrong for you to feel you need to work for money. Just like it's not wrong for me to want to work for assets that produce incomes.
    Semantics.

    Do you buy food and pay rent with "assets that produce incomes?"

    Metaphysical mumbo-jumbo.

    P.S. you're nitpicking on the Top Gun thing
    You're the one who posted the erroneous statement:
    Top Gun 2 might be in the works. They started this whole wingmen thing
    Kay was just setting the record straight.
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    • Profile picture of the author Unification
      Kay was just setting the record straight.
      maybe, but it's also very possible that the term "wingman" became famous because of that movie. not from overhearing those more anonymous pilots talk to each other. when guys were saying it, they saw themselves as tom cruise. the game is not who did it first, but who made it work. The very fact that top gun was such a big hit is the reason that everyone started saying "wingman." along with thinking it's ok to sing "loving feeling" at bars
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    • Profile picture of the author 1Bryan
      Originally Posted by IGotMine View Post

      Semantics.

      Do you buy food and pay rent with "assets that produce incomes?"

      Metaphysical mumbo-jumbo..
      Allen built an asset that produced an income with WaFo.

      Article writers who set up shop on WaFo just built an income.

      That's what the OP is talking about.

      One pays the rent, the other pays the rent AND retirement monies.

      It's a big difference that certainly isn't just semantics.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    I'm not sure I understand your question.

    Are you looking for recommendations for a coach or a mastermind group, etc.?

    If so, you'll need to be more specific. What do you want to learn? What business method or skill?

    A general business coach is probably a waste of money.

    If you're just wanting to brainstorm with other entrepreneurs then this forum is a good place. There are also a lot of Facebook groups where you can ask questions and share ideas.

    I love to buy assets, but I've always had to work for the cash to buy them.

    Always remember, "I feel the need...the need for speed."

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    • Profile picture of the author Unification
      Rose,
      You're reply was a cup of cold water on a warm and sunny day.

      I'll say this, I want to go some place where they encourage and push me to succeed with my goals after they have been clarified. I want to build a team. I want to make something that works. And I can't do what needs to get done as long as I know it is a vital step. I fear making mistakes and i need someone to just call me on the bullshit, make a few jokes about it if need be, and help me learn to adapt to the demands of my own businesses.

      like an exercise plan designed to process my ideas into attracting and purchasing amazing deals
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    P.S. you're nitpicking on the Top Gun thing.
    Lot of pilots in my family...accuracy is good.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    t's also very possible that the term "wingman" became famous

    Your original statement was that TopGun 'started the wingman thing'...that wasn't correct.


    However, I have no doubt there were large numbers of young people who learned and adopted the term 'wingman' after watching Top Gun.


    Makes sense - War was over - draft had ended - most of the young demographic watching the excitement of Top Gun 30 years ago had no knowledge of military training or fighter jets or war ...or of a wingman.


    See - we can both be right. Isn't that fun?
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Are you having fun with your business?

    This is the point; enjoying the ride. Things will get bumpy. But if you are loving the business journey you ride things out. However, even though I give little thought to money, and advise folks to follow their passion, I live a worldly life. Meaning money is no enemy but a welcome friend that finds me as I focus on helping folks, and on allowing it in.
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  • Profile picture of the author amuro
    Good idea.

    Have you thought about building and selling websites?

    Not sure if that is what you have in mind when you mentioned will work for assets or at very least, an experience

    There are tons of Youtube videos that you can learn from building websites as compared to when I first got started.
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    Silly questions: Why can't you get paid while getting an experience? Why can't you get paid cash and assets at the same time?


    What's wrong with buying a building that cash flows at a price below value (so you're acquiring an asset that pays nicely), for instance?


    Or a website?


    Just saying?



    Originally Posted by Unification View Post

    Top Gun 2 might be in the works. They started this whole wingmen thing. A wingman is buddy that's got your back in line of action. Someone you can count on, and someone who can count on you.

    However, the wingman can also be extended to include a coach, trainer, or otherwise someone holding you accountable. Any good recommendations with this?

    I can imagine a business dojo where you go to train your business skills and find out about yourself. A business Gym.

    I'm going into business to develop myself. Specifically, my sense of duty, honesty, mature judgement, and to develop sound business ethics as is suitable for an owner/investor position.

    I will not work for money. That is my prime rule. I will work for assets or at very least, an experience.

    Unify
    Paycheck is the enemy.
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