Is Dan Lok the new Tai Lopez?

Slippers 7 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

The ads are on xhamster?

Made me spill my coffee, thanks.
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ChrisBa 7 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

The ads are on xhamster?

For sure, he's everywhere
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ryanbiddulph 7 years ago

I saw 'em on RedTube.
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ryanbiddulph 7 years ago

The thing with some of these cats is they focus 100% of their pitch on riches and little on how to acquire the riches.This is the main thing that doesn't feel good to me. I appreciate their success but not my style. I also think it's cool that using all free marketing methods - with minimum promotion - me and a buddy have well over half a million views and listens between a podcast and YouTube channel for like 10 episodes/videos, covering online success chats. 600,000, currently.

We spent 0 bucks, unlike the fortune I betcha these cats spent. People are not buying the get rich quick quite as much these days and are trusting the meat and potatoes advice me and my buddy share. Honesty and genuine folks will dominate IM across the board down the road. Just you wait and see.
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- Michael Meaney 7 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph
  
  People are not buying the get rich quick quite as much these days
  
  I'm pleased to finally see more people wake up.
  
  It's been a longtime coming.
  
  The end is nigh for churn and burn list builders who constantly promote the latest shiny object. #controversial
  
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patrickvfisher

7 years ago

yeah, i think so

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HarrieB

7 years ago

Thank God I use adblock Pro... No ads anywhere..

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IGotMine 7 years ago

Originally Posted by HarrieB

Thank God I use adblock Pro... No ads anywhere..

I especially like ad-free Youtube!
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Michael Meaney

7 years ago

I figured it was just a retargeting campaign aimed at people who visit WF.

The ol' omnipresence marketing trick.

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crackhouse

7 years ago

The guy is annoying the **** out of me, i block his ads everywhere is see them.

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yukon Banned 7 years ago

Originally Posted by crackhouse

The guy is annoying the **** out of me, i block his ads everywhere is see them.

They might be better ads If he had a garage.

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IGotMine

7 years ago

People are not buying the get rich quick quite as much these days

Nonsense!

The dream sellers are doing better than ever. If you had a clue, you would know that.

"There's a sucker born every minute."

That hasn't changed and I can't see where it ever will.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by IGotMine

Nonsense!

The dream sellers are doing better than ever. If you had a clue, you would know that.

"There's a sucker born every minute."

That hasn't changed and I can't see where it ever will.

Well you have dollars in your profile pic, you must know all about it

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rhealy29 7 years ago

Originally Posted by Gabriel

Well you have dollars in your profile pic, you must know all about it

Your professional Warrior Forum staff ladies and gentlemen!
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- Brent Stangel 7 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Gabriel
  
  Well you have dollars in your profile pic, you must know all about it
  
  Originally Posted by rhealy29
  
  Your professional Warrior Forum staff ladies and gentlemen!
  
  It's obvious these "gurus" are poor teachers, look how quickly their acolytes destroyed the Warrior forum.
  
  If anyone behind this forum had a clue about marketing it would still be a thriving, profitable community instead of a ghost town.
  
  Be careful who you listen to...
  
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7 years ago

I find it amazing how much we complain vs analyzing what they are doing well

I learned so much from Dan, his funnel system is mind blowing
Sam Ovens coaching is also insane and their retargeting is genius

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1Bryan

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Gabriel

I find it amazing how much we complain vs analyzing what they are doing well

I learned so much from Dan, his funnel system is mind blowing
Sam Ovens coaching is also insane and their retargeting is genius

That's been the overall culture of the Main Discussion Forum for years.

It's basically:

Anyone who makes decent money is a goo-roo ... and all goo-roos are to be hated, mocked, and dis-trusted.

So many Warriors over the years spoke up about this.

Some of the most trusted and helpful Warriors left because anytime they posted, they were treated like a goo-roo who was to be hated, mocked, and dis-trusted.

The list is long and legendary.

P.S. OP? Clear cookies. That's all you have to do.

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DaveMartin

7 years ago

Originally Posted by 1Bryan

That's been the overall culture of the Main Discussion Forum for years.

It's basically:

Anyone who makes decent money is a goo-roo ... and all goo-roos are to be hated, mocked, and dis-trusted.

So many Warriors over the years spoke up about this.

Some of the most trusted and helpful Warriors left because anytime they posted, they were treated like a goo-roo who was to be hated, mocked, and dis-trusted.

The list is long and legendary.

P.S. OP? Clear cookies. That's all you have to do.

The reason for that is, that there is a perception, rightly or wrongly, that a lot of the so called "goo-roos" got rich not by practising the very methods they were teaching but by telling others how to get to rich using these methods. Remember during the gold rush the ones that got rich were the ones that sold the shovels.

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Brent Stangel

7 years ago

Originally Posted by DaveMartin

The reason for that is, that there is a perception, rightly or wrongly, that a lot of the so called "goo-roos" got rich not by practising the very methods they were teaching but by telling others how to get to rich using these methods. Remember during the gold rush the ones that got rich were the ones that sold the shovels.

The IM equivalent of "shovels" are autoresponders, hosting, etc.

These guys would have been selling fake "claims." Which along with stolen claims also made a lot of gold-rushers rich.

Also, the top link in your sig. is broken.

Brent

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OptedIn 7 years ago

Originally Posted by DaveMartin

Remember during the gold rush the ones that got rich were the ones that sold the shovels.

Really? You may want to research how much gold was extracted from the region during the Gold Rush. Your observation is beyond flawed. Cute saying, but not rooted in fact.

We see this a lot, around here. lol
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marco005

7 years ago

Hi everyone here,

I like to watch Dan Lok videos it's awesome.
But I wonder where all the guys who are in the online consulting business - get the stuff /ressources to create their service products?

Does they learn all the management and marketing stuff first?
I be sure they not learn Udemy courses....

Which ressources they use to get all that stuff?

Then this so called recurring monthly billing online consulting model- I mean when in a month is nothing to do, your client pay you monthly charge?

I research 4 days on the web but not found any ressources, only Udemy courses, expensive mentorship programs and so on.

Do you know any good ressources to learn that online consulting skills stuff?

marco005

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jbsmith

7 years ago

The better ones are practitioners...they test and work on things and then share what works and what doesn't. So yes, you can get some of that information from studying courses or watching what others do, but eventually you need to take action if you want to teach like a practitioner.

In other cases, Ex Tai Lopez...a good deal of his teachings have come from studying others (he talks constantly about his mentor Joel Salatin for example, he then talks about reading a book a day...pulling masses of information into a summary of useful tips/techniques and strategies). I'm not as big a fan of these type of teachers...I like practitioner-type teaching, but to each his own.

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Originally Posted by marco005

Hi everyone here,

I like to watch Dan Lok videos it's awesome.
But I wonder where all the guys who are in the online consulting business - get the stuff /ressources to create their service products?

Does they learn all the management and marketing stuff first?
I be sure they not learn Udemy courses....

Which ressources they use to get all that stuff?

Then this so called recurring monthly billing online consulting model- I mean when in a month is nothing to do, your client pay you monthly charge?

I research 4 days on the web but not found any ressources, only Udemy courses, expensive mentorship programs and so on.

Do you know any good ressources to learn that online consulting skills stuff?

marco005

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jbsmith

7 years ago

By the way...the one thing that all of these guys on social do (from Tai to Gary Vaynerchuck, Frank Kern (of late) and Grant Cardone to Sam and Dan) is they know how to capture attention, tell stories and brand themselves around an area of demand...in that sense they have mastered the basics of marketing.

Study their material closely (not what they say, but what they do) and watch the journey their campaigns take you on, how they progress their message, how they tell stories, how they get you to listen and how they communicate their value proposition. Even if you don't like their personality or specific product/approach...you can still learn from how they go about targeting and closing business using social.

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Rory Singh

7 years ago

I don't follow Dan or Tai. But I do create traffic around their names. There is a lot of controversy around Tai. Most of his haters say he's fake (yet many of them still secretly follow him).

Well one thing I know for sure...

Tai and Dan are very successful NOW regardless of how many haters they have.

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rhealy29

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Rory Singh

I don't follow Dan or Tai. But I do create traffic around their names. There is a lot of controversy around Tai. Most of his haters say he's fake (yet many of them still secretly follow him).

Well one thing I know for sure...

Tai and Dan are very successful NOW regardless of how many haters they have.

Robert Kiyosaki is successful too. It doesn't mean he isn't a fake. (He is, by the way.)

Lots of fakes become successful.

Calling out a fake for being fake doesn't make someone a hater if there's good reason behind it.

And when gaining attention becomes the proof of success in and of itself, welp...

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Rory Singh

7 years ago

Robert Kiyosaki is fake?

Where is such evidence?

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rhealy29

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Rory Singh

Robert Kiyosaki is fake?

Where is such evidence?

The most cursory Google search will tell you everything you need to know about Robert Kiyosaki and his Rich Dad company.

But even if people don't want to look him up, the fact that he got rich selling a "how to get rich" book through AmWay is all you need to know. He's the poster child for "Fake It 'Til You Make It".

But the Google search will provide WAY more than that. From lawsuits, to bankruptcies, to scam seminars, to his inability to keep his story straight on whether or not "Rich Dad" was real, to potentially illegal advice, to his apparent lack of understanding of the terms "asset" and "liability", and on and on and on.

The guy is a joke - but people will buy anything if it sounds good.

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Rory Singh

7 years ago

You have a lot to say in regards to some of these 'gurus' Questionable 'credibility'.

Since you're so well versed, who are you really?

What's your real name for 'credibility' purposes?

Originally Posted by rhealy29

The most cursory Google search will tell you everything you need to know about Robert Kiyosaki and his Rich Dad company.

But even if people don't want to look him up, the fact that he got rich selling a "how to get rich" book through AmWay is all you need to know. He's the poster child for "Fake It 'Til You Make It".

But the Google search will provide WAY more than that. From lawsuits, to bankruptcies, to scam seminars, to his inability to keep his story straight on whether or not "Rich Dad" was real, to potentially illegal advice, to his apparent lack of understanding of the terms "asset" and "liability", and on and on and on.

The guy is a joke - but people will buy anything if it sounds good.

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rhealy29

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Rory Singh

You have a lot to say in regards to some of these 'gurus' Questionable 'credibility'.

Since you're so well versed, who are you really?

What's your real name for 'credibility' purposes?

I see that my response to this post, where I happily gave my name, was removed. I'd just like to point that out. (Hint for anyone curious: I sign off many of my posts as Ryan)

And I'm not sure why the word credibility is in quotation marks unless that's not what it was actually meant to mean.

The point remains that Robert Kiyosaki is an easily verifiable fake, including the fact that he got rich off selling "get rich" books about real estate (through Amway to start, at that), not on actual real estate. (Made your fortune teaching people how to make a fortune = fake)

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boblev 7 years ago

Originally Posted by rhealy29

And when gaining attention becomes the proof of success in and of itself, welp...

That's how it works these days, you don't necessarily need talent, common sense or real smarts anymore. The only skill you do need is the ability to get attention.

Not a bad attribute to cultivate given that the whole internet is screaming look-at-me as you stroll by.....

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msulcs

7 years ago

Dan Lok is a good teacher. I watched most of his videos a year ago. Interesting man. He has built his name as a brand right now, taking it to the next level.

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RoyChan

7 years ago

He has got himself a nice niche. Kung Fu + Internet Marketing. His recent $49 telephone millionaire was a good tripwire. Well-done marketing. If he hadn't uttered that many "f" words, I would fully endorse him. Hey, even his book FU money is fully loaded.

At the end of the day, no one cares one's language, all they care is about the zeros in someone's bank account to see whether they are worth listening to.

I did comment on two of his recent videos. He has a good point about making sales. Had to give it to him. Nicely done...

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Randy McLean

7 years ago

One of his latest videos is a tour of his 15 million dollar penthouse. A little over the top.

I first saw him months back while looking for copywriting tips on YouTube.

I found him a little annoying at first. But I do find his story interesting. The classic "underdog" transformation story.

Vince Delmonte just did a good series of interviews with him. I follow Vince because I am into fitness also.

Lately, Vince has been shifting to topics relating more about entrepreneurship.

So either way I would have run into Dan eventually.

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Steve B

7 years ago

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

Now, I'm starting to see Dan Lok in video's everywhere

Could it be that his promotion by the Warrior Forum is ringing loudly in your ears because of the recent "push" of Mr. Lok into the forefront of the WF's money making emphasis? With the purchase of Allen's Warrior Forum, FreeLancer bought an audience of folks interested in making money. IMO, you're going to see more and more monetizing by WF (with the new direction in the WSO section as an example).

This is not a complaint or criticism of the WF's new direction. They (FL) bought the forum and can do with it what they want. I'm just suggesting your going to see more and more promotion of individual marketers, courses, and products by the WF to its forum members.

I remember years ago, names like Gary Halbert, Jay Abraham, Dan Kennedy, Corey Rudl, Eben Pagan, Howie Schwartz, Jim Daniels, Frank Kern, John Reese, Rich Schefren, Shawn Casey, Terry Dean, and even "The Rich Jerk" each had their moments in the limelight. Fame and fortune come and go.

The very best to all WF members,

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johnpwest

7 years ago

He does seem like the new Tai Lopez. I have been seeing him everywhere these days too.

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blueonblue

7 years ago

Dan Lok is now pitching his book as basically a large ad for his coaching costing upwards in the thousands of $$$. He is giving it away on Facebook,provided that you opt in to his mailing list. ONce there you are bombarded with emails for his several thousand dollar coaching program.

Brilliant strategy.

The point is though tht Mr. Lok has already made it in the Karate business. Unlike Tai Lopez he is not faking it.

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OptedIn 7 years ago

Originally Posted by blueonblue

ONce there you are bombarded with emails for his several thousand dollar coaching program.

Brilliant strategy.

Was that sarcasm? The fastest way to get me off of your list is to "bombard" me with emails. I don't care who you are and what you're hawking!
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  Originally Posted by OptedIn
  
  Was that sarcasm? The fastest way to get me off of your list is to "bombard" me with emails. I don't care who you are and what you're hawking!
  
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Obermair

7 years ago

There are so many of these guys... Anik Singal and Fred Lam come to mind since I for some reason have been bombarded with their emails recently. Ignore the hype and watch how they work. Both are focused on building funnels either through "the next webex/video starts in an hour" or "download our free book". It starts with free, bumps up to reasonable and then beyond. It is valuable to review the funnels they create and see how yours can be better. As for Dan Lok - yup he seems to be all over!

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oppyeaunome

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Obermair

There are so many of these guys... Anik Singal and Fred Lam come to mind since I for some reason have been bombarded with their emails recently. Ignore the hype and watch how they work. Both are focused on building funnels either through "the next webex/video starts in an hour" or "download our free book". It starts with free, bumps up to reasonable and then beyond. It is valuable to review the funnels they create and see how yours can be better. As for Dan Lok - yup he seems to be all over!

This is so true. Instead of buying their courses follow what they do. That's how you make money. Figure out what they do and then do it yourself.

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Obermair 7 years ago

Thanks for recognizing my point. It isn't the personality "du jour" but rather the marketing strategy that these folks are leveraging. Do it yourself at some level.

It reminds me of the folks who sell books and courses on real estate. The marketing barks "how I made a million in real estate!". What they don't tell you is that they made their millions selling books and courses and not buy dealing in real estate.
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Shkirr12

7 years ago

yea, He has created a name for himself

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Jen Eick

7 years ago

He IS everywhere, but I find him inspirational and highly entertaining...

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7 years ago

Yeah I think so.

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Renatas Budrys

7 years ago

Saw Dan's YT videos, to me Tai sounds as a sellout, Dan on the other hand seems more legit as of now

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marco005

7 years ago

Hi people,

I wonder what type of consulting model Dan Lok has?
Pay for work or Pay for access?

He teach people to make higher online income- or he do all the work to get 7 figure income for his clients?

What do you mean?

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celente

7 years ago

yes more annoying than tai too, i thought that was not possibe LOL

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7 years ago

You are being re-targetted. mmm easy answer

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7 years ago

I love how many rant vs reverse engineering what he is doing well.

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Kay King

7 years ago

You are being re-targetted. mmm easy answer

I'd agree with that - he seems to keep emailing no matter how many times you 'unsubscribe'.

You can learn something from almost any seller online - even if all you learn is what you don't want to do.

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brettb

7 years ago

I listened to a Dan Lok podcast. It was 60 minutes of basically nothing.

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affmarketer101

7 years ago

Yep, I agree. I think Dan Lok is even better than Tai Lopez.

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Monica Meiers

7 years ago

Dan Lok had himself featured in Goalcast once. It was his life story. Well, that's the only thing I saw with him.

What I did when I saw his ad was to hide it and point out the reason as "it's annoying."

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