Is Dan Lok the new Tai Lopez?

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I remember a while back, Tai Lopez was everywhere - Facebook, Youtube, etc. It seems like no matter what I was doing, I was always seeing video ads with him.

Now, I'm starting to see Dan Lok in video's everywhere. Is anyone else seeing this?
#dan #lok #lopez #tai
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  • Yes same here! Its retargeting but yeah I totally agree with you on that!
    Thanks and good look on your business brother!
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  • Profile picture of the author Walt SEO
    Sam Ovens is.
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    The ads are on xhamster?
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    • Profile picture of the author Slippers
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      The ads are on xhamster?
      Made me spill my coffee, thanks.
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      The ads are on xhamster?
      For sure, he's everywhere
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
      I saw 'em on RedTube.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
      The thing with some of these cats is they focus 100% of their pitch on riches and little on how to acquire the riches.This is the main thing that doesn't feel good to me. I appreciate their success but not my style. I also think it's cool that using all free marketing methods - with minimum promotion - me and a buddy have well over half a million views and listens between a podcast and YouTube channel for like 10 episodes/videos, covering online success chats. 600,000, currently.

      We spent 0 bucks, unlike the fortune I betcha these cats spent. People are not buying the get rich quick quite as much these days and are trusting the meat and potatoes advice me and my buddy share. Honesty and genuine folks will dominate IM across the board down the road. Just you wait and see.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
        Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

        People are not buying the get rich quick quite as much these days
        I'm pleased to finally see more people wake up.

        It's been a longtime coming.

        The end is nigh for churn and burn list builders who constantly promote the latest shiny object. #controversial
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    yeah, i think so !
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    Thank God I use adblock Pro... No ads anywhere..
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    • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
      Originally Posted by HarrieB View Post

      Thank God I use adblock Pro... No ads anywhere..
      I especially like ad-free Youtube!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
    I figured it was just a retargeting campaign aimed at people who visit WF.

    The ol' omnipresence marketing trick.
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    The guy is annoying the **** out of me, i block his ads everywhere is see them.
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  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    People are not buying the get rich quick quite as much these days
    Nonsense!

    The dream sellers are doing better than ever. If you had a clue, you would know that.

    "There's a sucker born every minute."

    That hasn't changed and I can't see where it ever will.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gabriel
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      Originally Posted by IGotMine View Post

      Nonsense!

      The dream sellers are doing better than ever. If you had a clue, you would know that.

      "There's a sucker born every minute."

      That hasn't changed and I can't see where it ever will.

      Well you have dollars in your profile pic, you must know all about it
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      • Profile picture of the author rhealy29
        Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

        Well you have dollars in your profile pic, you must know all about it
        Your professional Warrior Forum staff ladies and gentlemen!
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        • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
          Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

          Well you have dollars in your profile pic, you must know all about it
          Originally Posted by rhealy29 View Post

          Your professional Warrior Forum staff ladies and gentlemen!
          It's obvious these "gurus" are poor teachers, look how quickly their acolytes destroyed the Warrior forum.

          If anyone behind this forum had a clue about marketing it would still be a thriving, profitable community instead of a ghost town.

          Be careful who you listen to...

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    I find it amazing how much we complain vs analyzing what they are doing well


    I learned so much from Dan, his funnel system is mind blowing
    Sam Ovens coaching is also insane and their retargeting is genius
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    • Profile picture of the author 1Bryan
      Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post

      I find it amazing how much we complain vs analyzing what they are doing well


      I learned so much from Dan, his funnel system is mind blowing
      Sam Ovens coaching is also insane and their retargeting is genius
      That's been the overall culture of the Main Discussion Forum for years.

      It's basically:

      Anyone who makes decent money is a goo-roo ... and all goo-roos are to be hated, mocked, and dis-trusted.

      So many Warriors over the years spoke up about this.

      Some of the most trusted and helpful Warriors left because anytime they posted, they were treated like a goo-roo who was to be hated, mocked, and dis-trusted.

      The list is long and legendary.

      P.S. OP? Clear cookies. That's all you have to do.
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      • Profile picture of the author DaveMartin
        Originally Posted by 1Bryan View Post

        That's been the overall culture of the Main Discussion Forum for years.

        It's basically:

        Anyone who makes decent money is a goo-roo ... and all goo-roos are to be hated, mocked, and dis-trusted.

        So many Warriors over the years spoke up about this.

        Some of the most trusted and helpful Warriors left because anytime they posted, they were treated like a goo-roo who was to be hated, mocked, and dis-trusted.

        The list is long and legendary.

        P.S. OP? Clear cookies. That's all you have to do.
        The reason for that is, that there is a perception, rightly or wrongly, that a lot of the so called "goo-roos" got rich not by practising the very methods they were teaching but by telling others how to get to rich using these methods. Remember during the gold rush the ones that got rich were the ones that sold the shovels.
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        • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
          Originally Posted by DaveMartin View Post

          The reason for that is, that there is a perception, rightly or wrongly, that a lot of the so called "goo-roos" got rich not by practising the very methods they were teaching but by telling others how to get to rich using these methods. Remember during the gold rush the ones that got rich were the ones that sold the shovels.
          The IM equivalent of "shovels" are autoresponders, hosting, etc.

          These guys would have been selling fake "claims." Which along with stolen claims also made a lot of gold-rushers rich.

          Also, the top link in your sig. is broken.

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          Originally Posted by DaveMartin View Post

          Remember during the gold rush the ones that got rich were the ones that sold the shovels.
          Really? You may want to research how much gold was extracted from the region during the Gold Rush. Your observation is beyond flawed. Cute saying, but not rooted in fact.

          We see this a lot, around here. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi everyone here,

    I like to watch Dan Lok videos it's awesome.
    But I wonder where all the guys who are in the online consulting business - get the stuff /ressources to create their service products?

    Does they learn all the management and marketing stuff first?
    I be sure they not learn Udemy courses....

    Which ressources they use to get all that stuff?

    Then this so called recurring monthly billing online consulting model- I mean when in a month is nothing to do, your client pay you monthly charge?

    I research 4 days on the web but not found any ressources, only Udemy courses, expensive mentorship programs and so on.

    Do you know any good ressources to learn that online consulting skills stuff?

    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
      The better ones are practitioners...they test and work on things and then share what works and what doesn't. So yes, you can get some of that information from studying courses or watching what others do, but eventually you need to take action if you want to teach like a practitioner.

      In other cases, Ex Tai Lopez...a good deal of his teachings have come from studying others (he talks constantly about his mentor Joel Salatin for example, he then talks about reading a book a day...pulling masses of information into a summary of useful tips/techniques and strategies). I'm not as big a fan of these type of teachers...I like practitioner-type teaching, but to each his own.

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      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi everyone here,

      I like to watch Dan Lok videos it's awesome.
      But I wonder where all the guys who are in the online consulting business - get the stuff /ressources to create their service products?

      Does they learn all the management and marketing stuff first?
      I be sure they not learn Udemy courses....

      Which ressources they use to get all that stuff?

      Then this so called recurring monthly billing online consulting model- I mean when in a month is nothing to do, your client pay you monthly charge?

      I research 4 days on the web but not found any ressources, only Udemy courses, expensive mentorship programs and so on.

      Do you know any good ressources to learn that online consulting skills stuff?

      marco005
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    By the way...the one thing that all of these guys on social do (from Tai to Gary Vaynerchuck, Frank Kern (of late) and Grant Cardone to Sam and Dan) is they know how to capture attention, tell stories and brand themselves around an area of demand...in that sense they have mastered the basics of marketing.

    Study their material closely (not what they say, but what they do) and watch the journey their campaigns take you on, how they progress their message, how they tell stories, how they get you to listen and how they communicate their value proposition. Even if you don't like their personality or specific product/approach...you can still learn from how they go about targeting and closing business using social.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    I don't follow Dan or Tai. But I do create traffic around their names. There is a lot of controversy around Tai. Most of his haters say he's fake (yet many of them still secretly follow him).

    Well one thing I know for sure...

    Tai and Dan are very successful NOW regardless of how many haters they have.
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    • Profile picture of the author rhealy29
      Originally Posted by Rory Singh View Post

      I don't follow Dan or Tai. But I do create traffic around their names. There is a lot of controversy around Tai. Most of his haters say he's fake (yet many of them still secretly follow him).

      Well one thing I know for sure...

      Tai and Dan are very successful NOW regardless of how many haters they have.
      Robert Kiyosaki is successful too. It doesn't mean he isn't a fake. (He is, by the way.)

      Lots of fakes become successful.

      Calling out a fake for being fake doesn't make someone a hater if there's good reason behind it.

      And when gaining attention becomes the proof of success in and of itself, welp...
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      • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
        Robert Kiyosaki is fake?

        Where is such evidence?
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        • Profile picture of the author rhealy29
          Originally Posted by Rory Singh View Post

          Robert Kiyosaki is fake?

          Where is such evidence?
          The most cursory Google search will tell you everything you need to know about Robert Kiyosaki and his Rich Dad company.

          But even if people don't want to look him up, the fact that he got rich selling a "how to get rich" book through AmWay is all you need to know. He's the poster child for "Fake It 'Til You Make It".

          But the Google search will provide WAY more than that. From lawsuits, to bankruptcies, to scam seminars, to his inability to keep his story straight on whether or not "Rich Dad" was real, to potentially illegal advice, to his apparent lack of understanding of the terms "asset" and "liability", and on and on and on.

          The guy is a joke - but people will buy anything if it sounds good.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
            You have a lot to say in regards to some of these 'gurus' Questionable 'credibility'.

            Since you're so well versed, who are you really?

            What's your real name for 'credibility' purposes?


            Originally Posted by rhealy29 View Post

            The most cursory Google search will tell you everything you need to know about Robert Kiyosaki and his Rich Dad company.

            But even if people don't want to look him up, the fact that he got rich selling a "how to get rich" book through AmWay is all you need to know. He's the poster child for "Fake It 'Til You Make It".

            But the Google search will provide WAY more than that. From lawsuits, to bankruptcies, to scam seminars, to his inability to keep his story straight on whether or not "Rich Dad" was real, to potentially illegal advice, to his apparent lack of understanding of the terms "asset" and "liability", and on and on and on.

            The guy is a joke - but people will buy anything if it sounds good.
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            • Profile picture of the author rhealy29
              Originally Posted by Rory Singh View Post

              You have a lot to say in regards to some of these 'gurus' Questionable 'credibility'.

              Since you're so well versed, who are you really?

              What's your real name for 'credibility' purposes?
              I see that my response to this post, where I happily gave my name, was removed. I'd just like to point that out. (Hint for anyone curious: I sign off many of my posts as Ryan)

              And I'm not sure why the word credibility is in quotation marks unless that's not what it was actually meant to mean.

              The point remains that Robert Kiyosaki is an easily verifiable fake, including the fact that he got rich off selling "get rich" books about real estate (through Amway to start, at that), not on actual real estate. (Made your fortune teaching people how to make a fortune = fake)
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        Originally Posted by rhealy29 View Post

        And when gaining attention becomes the proof of success in and of itself, welp...
        That's how it works these days, you don't necessarily need talent, common sense or real smarts anymore. The only skill you do need is the ability to get attention.

        Not a bad attribute to cultivate given that the whole internet is screaming look-at-me as you stroll by.....

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  • Profile picture of the author msulcs
    Dan Lok is a good teacher. I watched most of his videos a year ago. Interesting man. He has built his name as a brand right now, taking it to the next level.
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  • Profile picture of the author RoyChan
    He has got himself a nice niche. Kung Fu + Internet Marketing. His recent $49 telephone millionaire was a good tripwire. Well-done marketing. If he hadn't uttered that many "f" words, I would fully endorse him. Hey, even his book FU money is fully loaded.

    At the end of the day, no one cares one's language, all they care is about the zeros in someone's bank account to see whether they are worth listening to.

    I did comment on two of his recent videos. He has a good point about making sales. Had to give it to him. Nicely done...
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy McLean
    One of his latest videos is a tour of his 15 million dollar penthouse. A little over the top.

    I first saw him months back while looking for copywriting tips on YouTube.

    I found him a little annoying at first. But I do find his story interesting. The classic "underdog" transformation story.

    Vince Delmonte just did a good series of interviews with him. I follow Vince because I am into fitness also.

    Lately, Vince has been shifting to topics relating more about entrepreneurship.

    So either way I would have run into Dan eventually.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

    Now, I'm starting to see Dan Lok in video's everywhere

    Could it be that his promotion by the Warrior Forum is ringing loudly in your ears because of the recent "push" of Mr. Lok into the forefront of the WF's money making emphasis? With the purchase of Allen's Warrior Forum, FreeLancer bought an audience of folks interested in making money. IMO, you're going to see more and more monetizing by WF (with the new direction in the WSO section as an example).


    This is not a complaint or criticism of the WF's new direction. They (FL) bought the forum and can do with it what they want. I'm just suggesting your going to see more and more promotion of individual marketers, courses, and products by the WF to its forum members.



    I remember years ago, names like Gary Halbert, Jay Abraham, Dan Kennedy, Corey Rudl, Eben Pagan, Howie Schwartz, Jim Daniels, Frank Kern, John Reese, Rich Schefren, Shawn Casey, Terry Dean, and even "The Rich Jerk" each had their moments in the limelight. Fame and fortune come and go.


    The very best to all WF members,


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  • Profile picture of the author johnpwest
    He does seem like the new Tai Lopez. I have been seeing him everywhere these days too.
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  • Profile picture of the author blueonblue
    Dan Lok is now pitching his book as basically a large ad for his coaching costing upwards in the thousands of $$$. He is giving it away on Facebook,provided that you opt in to his mailing list. ONce there you are bombarded with emails for his several thousand dollar coaching program.

    Brilliant strategy.

    The point is though tht Mr. Lok has already made it in the Karate business. Unlike Tai Lopez he is not faking it.
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      Originally Posted by blueonblue View Post

      ONce there you are bombarded with emails for his several thousand dollar coaching program.

      Brilliant strategy.
      Was that sarcasm? The fastest way to get me off of your list is to "bombard" me with emails. I don't care who you are and what you're hawking!
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        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        Was that sarcasm? The fastest way to get me off of your list is to "bombard" me with emails. I don't care who you are and what you're hawking!

        Yep that was sarcasm
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  • Profile picture of the author Obermair
    There are so many of these guys... Anik Singal and Fred Lam come to mind since I for some reason have been bombarded with their emails recently. Ignore the hype and watch how they work. Both are focused on building funnels either through "the next webex/video starts in an hour" or "download our free book". It starts with free, bumps up to reasonable and then beyond. It is valuable to review the funnels they create and see how yours can be better. As for Dan Lok - yup he seems to be all over!
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      Originally Posted by Obermair View Post

      There are so many of these guys... Anik Singal and Fred Lam come to mind since I for some reason have been bombarded with their emails recently. Ignore the hype and watch how they work. Both are focused on building funnels either through "the next webex/video starts in an hour" or "download our free book". It starts with free, bumps up to reasonable and then beyond. It is valuable to review the funnels they create and see how yours can be better. As for Dan Lok - yup he seems to be all over!
      This is so true. Instead of buying their courses follow what they do. That's how you make money. Figure out what they do and then do it yourself.
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      • Profile picture of the author Obermair
        Thanks for recognizing my point. It isn't the personality "du jour" but rather the marketing strategy that these folks are leveraging. Do it yourself at some level.

        It reminds me of the folks who sell books and courses on real estate. The marketing barks "how I made a million in real estate!". What they don't tell you is that they made their millions selling books and courses and not buy dealing in real estate.
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    yea, He has created a name for himself
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  • Profile picture of the author Jen Eick
    He IS everywhere, but I find him inspirational and highly entertaining...
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  • Yeah I think so.
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  • Profile picture of the author Renatas Budrys
    Saw Dan's YT videos, to me Tai sounds as a sellout, Dan on the other hand seems more legit as of now
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi people,

    I wonder what type of consulting model Dan Lok has?
    Pay for work or Pay for access?

    He teach people to make higher online income- or he do all the work to get 7 figure income for his clients?

    What do you mean?

    marco005
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    yes more annoying than tai too, i thought that was not possibe LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Gabriel
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    You are being re-targetted. mmm easy answer
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    I love how many rant vs reverse engineering what he is doing well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    You are being re-targetted. mmm easy answer

    I'd agree with that - he seems to keep emailing no matter how many times you 'unsubscribe'.


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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    I listened to a Dan Lok podcast. It was 60 minutes of basically nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author affmarketer101
    Yep, I agree. I think Dan Lok is even better than Tai Lopez.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monica Meiers
    Dan Lok had himself featured in Goalcast once. It was his life story. Well, that's the only thing I saw with him.

    What I did when I saw his ad was to hide it and point out the reason as "it's annoying."
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