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Sell More Copies of Your WSO's - You can do this...

by nelaffiliate
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Hi,

To anyone having a WSO on the Warrior Special Offers Forum... here is a tip to help you sell more of your WSO:

My tip is that you also add a "Clickbank payment button"!

Here is the reason why this will help you sell more:
Paypal hasn't included many countries on their account acceptance list. These are countries which have Mastercard and VISA card payment systems. Many of these countries have lots of Warrior members and potential buyers of your WSO.

I know lots of people who are ready to pay for your WSO with credit or debit cards, if only it was available. It's so easy to add that extra Clickbank payment option and it will make you more money. I know some folks might say, it's still possible to pay with your VISA or Mastercard when trying to pay through Paypal... I can tell you that it's almost impossinble to do that for many of these countries.

If Mastercard and VISA card can be in these countries, I wonder why Paypal should discriminate against them. It simply doesn't make sense to discriminate against a population of over One billion citizens out there. Many of such people are warrior members and really want to buy your WSO, but the insistence of only payment by Paypal is cutting them out. Clickbank is a great and secure payment processor which I recommend you also use for your WSO's.

It would be great to see Warrior's start adding the Clickbank payment button to their WSO pages. That would be great and considerate to Warriors and people from other countries around the world. It ultimately makes good business sense.

This is just my humble suggestion :-)
Looking forward to seeing warriors implementing this.
#clickbank #copies #payment #paypal #sell #wso
  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    If Mastercard and VISA card can be in these countries, I wonder why Paypal should discriminate against them. It simply doesn't make sense to discriminate against a population of over One billion citizens out there.
    Paypal is not desciminating ... There is a great deal of red tape involved, governments, laws, and etc.

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    • Profile picture of the author nelaffiliate
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Apart from the nearly 9% transaction-costs, you mean?

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      And the fact that a WSO has to be something specifically for Warriors only, either not available through other channels or available at a preferential prices for Warriors? :confused:

      This won't matter too much if the WSO is taken down after a short period of time. It would still be exclusive to most warriors since it is advertise at the forum.

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  • Profile picture of the author JC-PureProfitsHQ
    Sounds like a great idea and one that people should test, but keep in mind that by adding Clickbank as an option you'd also have to go through the process of getting your product approved on Clickbank then paying the $50 fee... This process could take weeks, really.

    BTW Alexa, your sig made me chuckle
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    • Profile picture of the author nelaffiliate
      Originally Posted by JC-PureProfitsHQ View Post

      Sounds like a great idea and one that people should test, but keep in mind that by adding Clickbank as an option you'd also have to go through the process of getting your product approved on Clickbank then paying the $50 fee... This process could take weeks, really.

      BTW Alexa, your sig made me chuckle
      Many warriors already have accounts with Clickbank, so it won't cost them anything extra.
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        • Profile picture of the author nelaffiliate
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Vendor accounts? I wonder what proportion of WSO sellers have them ...

          Just "apart from the 9% transaction-costs", then? :p

          I'm not planning a WSO myself, at the moment, but the last thing I'd want to do with one would be to hand 9% of its takings to Clickbank, of all people. Just saying.

          Ha ha ha ha... Alexa, I understand how you feel, but look at it this way... you will be showing consideration to other warriors who come from countries outside the Paypal approved countries. Clickbank works worldwide since VISA and Mastercard exist in almost all countries.

          Don't worry about the 9% transaction fee.... think more about the extra sales and the goodwill you will be spreading by being considerate :-)
          Wishing you well.
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          • Profile picture of the author JR Rich
            I'm not a WSO 'Pro' by any means, but it seems to me that you might be better served by promoting subscriptions to your own mailing list?

            Here's what I mean:

            Perhaps instead of offering your product dirt-cheap in your WSO, offer it for free in exchange for signing up to a Warrior-Specific mailing list that caters to the niche that your product addresses.

            This way, you can keep in better contact with Warriors who are interested in that niche while - at the same time - having the capability to offer them future related products.

            Seems to me that a $20 WSO that garners a bunch of targeted people interested in your niche would be cheaper (and more effective) than PPC or some of the other list-building methods out there.

            Of course, this tactic may be banned by the WF. I admit that I haven't read ALL the rules and regulations of the Warrior Forum quite yet!

            Regards,
            --JR
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      • Profile picture of the author JC-PureProfitsHQ
        Originally Posted by nelaffiliate View Post

        Many warriors already have accounts with Clickbank, so it won't cost them anything extra.
        Actually you're right -- I don't use Clickbank much, so I forgot that the $50 was a one-time fee and not for every product you sell.

        Definitely something people should be testing with their next WSOs
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    I prefer 91% of something over 100% of nothing.

    Not sure that adding ClickBank would be practical for all cases (such as services), but it's something to consider.

    For those who are worried about the impact of giving 9% to CB, I'd suggest you crunch some numbers and see if you still feel the same way. Each case is different, so I'm not saying you should or shouldn't use CB.

    Let's say 100 want to buy your WSO for $20, but only 90 of them can use PayPal.

    That would be $1800. Not bad, but...

    If those other 10 could have purchased it if you offered another payment option, then you would have an extra $200. Even if you have to pay a 9% transaction fee (ONLY on THOSE orders) that would $18.

    Look at it this way, you are paying $18 to get $182 ($200 - $18 = $182). Sounds like a good return to me.

    Even if you had to set up an account with ClickBank, you'd still come out $132 ahead in this example.

    Again, each seller and offer is different, so you would have to run your own numbers to see if it makes sense for you.

    You can also consider transaction fees when pricing your WSO.

    All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author nelaffiliate
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      I prefer 91% of something over 100% of nothing.

      Not sure that adding ClickBank would be practical for all cases (such as services), but it's something to consider.

      For those who are worried about the impact of giving 9% to CB, I'd suggest you crunch some numbers and see if you still feel the same way. Each case is different, so I'm not saying you should or shouldn't use CB.

      Let's say 100 want to buy your WSO for $20, but only 90 of them can use PayPal.

      That would be $1800. Not bad, but...

      If those other 10 could have purchased it if you offered another payment option, then you would have an extra $200. Even if you have to pay a 9% transaction fee (ONLY on THOSE orders) that would $18.

      Look at it this way, you are paying $18 to get $182 ($200 - $18 = $182). Sounds like a good return to me.

      Even if you had to set up an account with ClickBank, you'd still come out $132 ahead in this example.

      Again, each seller and offer is different, so you would have to run your own numbers to see if it makes sense for you.

      You can also consider transaction fees when pricing your WSO.

      All the best,
      Michael

      Thanks alot. This is what I mean.
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      • Profile picture of the author nelaffiliate
        It's really painful sometimes when you visit the WSO forum... you see a really good WSO, but you then find out that Paypal is the only way to pay :-(

        Believe me when I say that many interested buyers are being cut off from WSO's because of this.

        If you have a WSO, just try adding a Clickbank button so the rest of us can buy your wonderful WSO :-)

        Don't leave money on the table just because you want to stick to the "normal" way of doing things :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Williams
          Originally Posted by nelaffiliate View Post

          It's really painful sometimes when you visit the WSO forum... you see a really good WSO, but you then find out that Paypal is the only way to pay :-(

          Believe me when I say that many interested buyers are being cut off from WSO's because of this.

          If you have a WSO, just try adding a Clickbank button so the rest of us can buy your wonderful WSO :-)

          Don't leave money on the table just because you want to stick to the "normal" way of doing things :-)
          Have you never tried to contact the person hosting the WSO? I'm sure many would be willing to work out a way to get it to you - at least I would. I would not pay $50 to set up a clickbank vendor account just so they can take 9% of my earnings though.
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          • Profile picture of the author Raydal
            Originally Posted by Kevin Williams View Post

            Have you never tried to contact the person hosting the WSO? I'm sure many would be willing to work out a way to get it to you - at least I would. I would not pay $50 to set up a clickbank vendor account just so they can take 9% of my earnings though.
            That's the point. I don't think it's hard to send a PM to the WSO
            seller and ask for another mode of payment if you can't use Paypal.

            I've never had a complain about not being able to buy a WSO
            because I only offer paypal. And how would you set up the
            Clickbank payment without the affiliate commission if you are
            not using a new account? People would just buy using their
            own affiliate link ... no?

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            • Profile picture of the author nelaffiliate
              Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

              That's the point. I don't think it's hard to send a PM to the WSO
              seller and ask for another mode of payment if you can't use Paypal.

              I've never had a complain about not being able to buy a WSO
              because I only offer paypal. And how would you set up the
              Clickbank payment without the affiliate commission if you are
              not using a new account? People would just buy using their
              own affiliate link ... no?

              -Ray Edwards
              With regards to people buying through their affilate links... that has never really stopped Clickbank product sellers from making money on clickbank. The important thing is that you gain access to a method of accepting payment from almost every country in the world. I just feel it's worth considering.
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              • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                Originally Posted by nelaffiliate View Post

                With regards to people buying through their affilate links... that has never really stopped Clickbank product sellers from making money on clickbank. The important thing is that you gain access to a method of accepting payment from almost every country in the world. I just feel it's worth considering.
                And you could do the same with moneybookers and other payment processors out there. I see no need to get clickbank involved in my business but that is my personal opinion.

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          • Profile picture of the author nelaffiliate
            Originally Posted by Kevin Williams View Post

            Have you never tried to contact the person hosting the WSO? I'm sure many would be willing to work out a way to get it to you - at least I would. I would not pay $50 to set up a clickbank vendor account just so they can take 9% of my earnings though.
            I did try doing that when I wanted to purchase for example Incansoft products (RSSBot and Socialbot), but I was told they only accept Paypal payments for now :-(

            And I really wanted to buy those products and others too. I have presently contacted another WSO owner, and I'm expecting a reply. Hopefully I will get a positive reply.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Vendor accounts? I wonder what proportion of WSO sellers have them ...

    Just "apart from the 9% transaction-costs", then? :p

    I'm not planning a WSO myself, at the moment, but the last thing I'd want to do with one would be to hand 9% of its takings to Clickbank, of all people. Just saying.
    I agree, personally I do not use clickbank and have no plans on using it... I only setup a dummy account (not paid for) to test my membership script payment system and that is it.

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny Slater
    It seems to me that the point is moot anyway.. The stated reason to use Clickbank was to accept Visa and Mastercard purchases.. which you can do with PayPal. The customer doesn't have to have a PayPal account to pay you by credit card, unless your doing subscriptions.
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    • Profile picture of the author nelaffiliate
      Originally Posted by Johnny Slater View Post

      It seems to me that the point is moot anyway.. The stated reason to use Clickbank was to accept Visa and Mastercard purchases.. which you can do with PayPal. The customer doesn't have to have a PayPal account to pay you by credit card, unless your doing subscriptions.
      Believe me when I say it almost impossible to make the purchase, because Paypal makes it so difficult. You won't even get the option to pay without going through Paypal sometimes. It's like turture! Those of us in these countries, not serviced by Paypal understand this better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Money Maker
    Really not sure clickbank is the best way to go here. Do some research and study online, I won't mention companies , but there is a better way. It's on Google, do some checking !!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Huynh
    Thanks for pointing this out. I'll make sure to add Clickbank as a form of payment for my next WSO. I already have a vendor account so it's not too much trouble.
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    • Profile picture of the author nelaffiliate
      Originally Posted by Gary Huynh View Post

      Thanks for pointing this out. I'll make sure to add Clickbank as a form of payment for my next WSO. I already have a vendor account so it's not too much trouble.
      Thank you so much for considering the rest of us, buyers from other parts of the world. Thank you! I and my friends overhere will surely check out your WSO :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Peters Benn
    I've never had a single person ask to pay by another method other than Paypal - surely that is because people can use Paypal to make a direct Visa or Mastrcard payment even if they can't have an account?
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  • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
    I moved over to 2checkout.
    They accept VARIOUS payment methods including paypal!
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    • Profile picture of the author nelaffiliate
      Originally Posted by RGallowitz View Post

      I moved over to 2checkout.
      They accept VARIOUS payment methods including paypal!
      That's another good payment system. This brings in more buyers.
      I know it's sometimes difficult for people to change from the usual way of doing things, but sometimes you need to just change to bring in more customers.
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      • Profile picture of the author marciayudkin
        If you have a WSO, just try adding a Clickbank button so the rest of us can buy your wonderful WSO :-)

        Don't leave money on the table just because you want to stick to the "normal" way of doing things :-)
        My "normal" way of doing things is to use my merchant account, which accepts Visa, Mastercard and American Express. Is there any reason why Clickbank is superior to that option, for those who can't use Paypal to pay?

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  • Profile picture of the author CliveG
    If you are already selling your product on ClickBank, you would have to list it a second time with a lower price to qualify as a WSO. Anyone who searches the ClickBank market place for products is likely to find both versions so the WSO version would not be exclusive. So unless you are offering something else to Warriors it does not seem to comply with the rules.
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