Travis Sago Is The Bee's Knees...And How I'm Giving Up The IM Niche

by Steven Wagenheim 88 replies
I've been promoting one of Travis Sago's products now for about 3 months.

I can honestly tell you that this person is the most helpful, kind, considerate
and...well, you run out of adjectives when describing him.

He's an affiliate marketer's dream.

The guy sends you keyword lists, videos, ads, you name it. He leaves NO
stone unturned.

Ask him a question, he answers it.

And let me tell you, his products are a cakewalk to sell.

The other day, I wrote to him just for the heck of it because I wanted
to get some idea where I was amongst his affiliates on one of his products
because I really wasn't putting a lot of effort into promoting it (shame on
me).

Well, out of 580 affiliates who have made at least 1 sale in the last 90
days, I rank 35th.

That's working a lousy 15 minutes a day at doing what I do to promote
this thing.

His stuff is tops. His sales page converts, like he says, and if you're even
putting in a half assed effort like I am, you'll make sales.

This isn't a plug for Travis as much as it is for simply finding something that
sells and showing up. If you do that, literally, you can't NOT make sales.

Travis will come here and back up everything I've said. There is NO
excuse for everybody who wants to make at least something online to do
it IF they just put in SOME effort. No, you can't sit and push a magic
button and expect things to happen.

15 minutes a day folks and I'm making hundreds a month just from one
product.

I promote close to 20 affiliate products now in this manner.

Know what each one of them nets me a month on average?

$520 each.

Know what that comes out to total?

$10,400

That's WITHOUT adding in what I earn off of my own products.

That's why I'm averaging well over $14,000 a month income this year.

That's why I'm almost thinking of giving up creating my own stuff and just
affiliate market the rest of my life. Outside of the IM niche, it's like taking
candy from a baby.

And my total time working for all these products daily?

5 hours.

Not even a full 8 hour day.

My 14 hour days are done.

I'm back in the recording studio writing songs and enjoying my life.

This has become a part time job with a full time income.

Stop beating your head against stone walls. There are products out there
that sell like water to a man dying of thirst.

I mean why knock myself out creating products to earn 4, maybe 5
thousand a month with them when I can do almost nothing and make
twice as much selling stuff that REAL people REALLY want and I don't
have to...

create product
create sales page
create squeeze page
create blah, blah, blah

That's right. I'm not even building lists for these niches. What for? They
have what they need and I have nothing else to sell them. Travis and all
the other merchants who I sell for handle all the headaches with
delivery, refunds and so on.

And let me tell you...the products I'm selling...the refunds are almost ZERO.

I don't have that kind of luck in the IM niche, that's for DAMN sure.

The more I do this, the more I realize that there are way easier ways to
make money than trying to show people how to make money.

So to Travis and all you other guys whose products I'm selling, thank you
for putting out stuff of quality that REALLY helps people and does what it
says it does.

Man, I LOVE this business.
#main internet marketing discussion forum #bee #giving #kneesand #niche #sago #travis
  • Profile picture of the author jem
    I agree Travis overdelivers and will help wherever he can. I'm guessing you're promoting the same product I am. Obviously you're a lot more talented and experienced than me but I've had 1 sale from 46 articles! It kills me when I here how 'Joe Bloggs' just wrote 4 articles and has already made 2 sales, oh the pain! Yes, I believe in quality over quantity, but they can't all be that bad!

    Obviously somethings clearly wrong with my promotions ... back to the drawing board!
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    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
      If you want to link to one of your articles I am sure that people could help you get an idea of what you are doing wrong. Or PM me a link if you want, but the more comments you get the more ideas and suggestions that you will get. When I've written articles to promote a clickbank item, I got one sale per article. I'm not saying that to brag, I'm just saying that I think I have an idea of what works.
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      • Profile picture of the author jem
        I'd really appreciate that thanks. I've just sent a pm.
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        • Profile picture of the author Thomas Dean
          Hey Steven,

          Have to agree with you on the fact that Travis is very helpful. I was actually blown away from the resources he gave out for promoting his product.

          I don't think you should give up creating your own products though.

          I'd rather have a bunch of affiliates successfully promoting one of my products than me promoting someone elses products. I remember you saying before that you struggle to get affiliates for your own products. Why don't you take a leaf out of Travis' book and create some killer content for them to use.

          Just sayin'
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        • Profile picture of the author Barbara Eyre
          Steve,

          I've tried affiliate marketing off and on over the last few years and naturally with no success. Done Clickbank and CJ. Nada.

          Then again, I've never really done article marketing. I've only written one article and that was for my online store. It was picked up by a few other folks to be used on their sites.

          I guess it is time to break down and try it again.
          Now, to try and find a suitable niche for me! LOL
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
            Originally Posted by Barbara Eyre View Post

            Steve,

            I've tried affiliate marketing off and on over the last few years and naturally with no success. Done Clickbank and CJ. Nada.

            Then again, I've never really done article marketing. I've only written one article and that was for my online store. It was picked up by a few other folks to be used on their sites.

            I guess it is time to break down and try it again.
            Now, to try and find a suitable niche for me! LOL
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            • Profile picture of the author carik42
              I'm pretty sure I know the program you're talking about Steven, I think most Bums were informed of it when it was released.

              I too set up a promotional campaign for it a few months ago to show my list how simple it can be to set up a successful campaign for a product that converts very well.

              So I created a lens, wrote 5 articles and submitted them to EA. Within days I'd made 5 sales, and even though I haven't created any more promotional articles, that lens still makes me regular sales. If I wanted to, I could write an article a day and probably make a good living from that product alone, but I have too many other things going on right now.

              It is a great product, and there will ALWAYS be a customer there waiting to buy it, so it's probably one of the best bum opportunities right now.

              As for Travis, yeah he's a good guy. The success of his product comes from promoting to this niche for a long time as an affiliate, so he already has the understanding to pass on to his affiliates.

              Thinking about it, I don't know which is the better business model...the product, or the way he's utilized the Bum army to promote it.

              Either way, it's genius.
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            • Profile picture of the author atom1980
              Wow, that is a real eye-opener. Thanks for sharing Steve. If I send you the link to my landing page for Travis's product, would you be willing to throw your opinion on it? I understand if you're too busy.

              I really must write more articles for this product. I just checked. I actually have sold 2 of them already with 2 articles... and I didn't write any more! How stupid am I? Out of the dozen or so products I have promoted to date, I am lucky to get one sale.. and usually write far more than 2 articles for each of them. I am laughing here. How silly! The most I have sold any one product is Travis's.

              Right, more articles I think LOL!

              Cheers.
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            • Profile picture of the author summer07
              Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

              ...the key is knowing how to do niche research.....
              Steven, is the "niche" research you refer to the same as "long-tail keyword" research?

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            • Profile picture of the author louiefrias
              Wow...I spent a month trying to contact Travis and not one single reply...maybe I should have upped my offer...
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        • Profile picture of the author Tuzic
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          hi,

          i never heard of Travis before but think will give it a go.
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      • IMHO, majority of people are struggling making money because they tend to do things by themselves thinking that they will produce great results everytime..hehe...Warrior forum has been my paradise for searching the best product review ever without having to even think about product and do product research like madman..hehe..thats why Travis is helping others by just duplicating what's best converting for him, recruiting his affiliates so well..i haven't knew him so well but i've read his materials and so far he's doing them so well ..if anyone would again felt that they were in any mean be tricked or whatsoever, they should really start fresh again ...
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    • Profile picture of the author mahasaya
      Originally Posted by jem View Post

      I agree Travis overdelivers and will help wherever he can. I'm guessing you're promoting the same product I am. Obviously you're a lot more talented and experienced than me but I've had 1 sale from 46 articles! It kills me when I here how 'Joe Bloggs' just wrote 4 articles and has already made 2 sales, oh the pain! Yes, I believe in quality over quantity, but they can't all be that bad!

      Obviously somethings clearly wrong with my promotions ... back to the drawing board!
      Holy balloons! Do I KNOW how you feel..., so I just thought it would be great to tell you I found this to be of some interest. (With the more than 100 000 threads out there, it's s easy to just miss it...)

      http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...earticles.html

      I've set up a warrior blog to post my results...hope it helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    Do remember that article writing is a numbers game. Writing one article a day probably isn't going to be enough to support you. More like 10 articles a day.
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    • Profile picture of the author atom1980
      Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

      Do remember that article writing is a numbers game. Writing one article a day probably isn't going to be enough to support you. More like 10 articles a day.
      I never really know what to believe in regards to what quantity one must write in order to see decent sales. Steve is putting in 15 minutes a day for this particular product (from his post above) which I would guess is one article a day. Two at the most, as I know he is quick.
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      • Profile picture of the author martinp
        Originally Posted by atom1980 View Post

        I never really know what to believe in regards to what quantity one must write in order to see decent sales. Steve is putting in 15 minutes a day for this particular product (from his post above) which I would guess is one article a day. Two at the most, as I know he is quick.
        That often depends on the person who's writing - if you're good, you should be able to make sales every day with just one article a day (for this particular product anyway). Might take a less experienced article marketer 10 articles to do the same thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Allegro
    the more interesting point to me is, if mr wagenheim links his articles to a review page or if he just redirects his url to the sales page...
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  • Profile picture of the author SusanUSA
    Steven, thanks for writing this post. It once again shows that consistent, quality work will reap rewards.

    I love this! Be blessed faithful Warrior! -)
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Sol
    Travis' MOMU sells very well - because, as you mentioned he truly wants to help... His affiliates and his buyers!

    I love this guy!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    Steve, is this ALL from article writing or are you also doing PPC?
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    Pretty Pungeant Cheese, I think. I'll have to go look it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnHuizinga
    Oh no Steven! That doesn't mean you're going to stop offering your products completely is it?

    I know I should be grabbing them now if I want them but I actually want to make a little money on this thing before I start spending.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amy Bass
    Affiliate marketing is a heck of a lot easier than creating and maintaining your own products that's for sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason K. Thomas
      Originally Posted by Amy Bass View Post

      Affiliate marketing is a heck of a lot easier than creating and maintaining your own products that's for sure.
      I've done equally well promoting affiliate products, as well as my own. I haven't decided which I like better, although, it is nice not having to deal with customer service issues when promoting other people's products. However, the refund rates on my own products have been low so far, so it's not a big deal, and definitely worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author terryrayburn
    Steven,

    I recently purchased your 2-part product (sorry, I'm away from my office and the name escapes me, but it's the sorta "complete basics" that came in Part 1 & Part 2 for one price). Terrific stuff.

    Anyway, I've just started an article-writing (EA) plan. I've gotten 6 published on EA, 4 more "pending", of the 10 initially allowed before being able to publish more.

    Q. Should I put my articles on one of my own websites, after publishing it on EA? If so, any problem with leaving them unchanged, or would you spin them somewhat?

    Q. In the "easy" process you talk of in this affiliate post, are you sending them to some review or pre-sell page, or redirecting to the CB sales page?

    Thanks for all your ongoing help and advice, here and in your products.

    Terry Rayburn
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Q. Should I put my articles on one of my own websites, after publishing it on EA? If so, any problem with leaving them unchanged, or would you spin them somewhat?
      Yes, you can. It's only duplicate content if you have the same article on
      two different pages within your web site.

      Q. In the "easy" process you talk of in this affiliate post, are you sending them to some review or pre-sell page, or redirecting to the CB sales page?
      I use several methods depending on the niche and what I'm trying to
      accomplish. If I just want to make a quick sale, I send them to a blog with
      a review of the product. If I want to build a list, I send them to a squeeze
      page. There's no one size fits all.
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      • Profile picture of the author melanied
        I love Travis - he's definitely one of my top 5 favorite people to learn from!
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      • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Yes, you can. It's only duplicate content if you have the same article on
        two different pages within your web site.



        I use several methods depending on the niche and what I'm trying to
        accomplish. If I just want to make a quick sale, I send them to a blog with
        a review of the product. If I want to build a list, I send them to a squeeze
        page. There's no one size fits all.


        So I can put the articles I have had published on EZA, straight onto my website, blog, squidoo, and wordpress?
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        • Originally Posted by iciejay View Post

          So I can put the articles I have had published on EZA, straight onto my website, blog, squidoo, and wordpress?
          Yes, you can. You can also use the articles published on EZA by other authors on your website, blog, squidoo, and wordpress as long as you keep the author's bio box intact. That "duplicate content" thing the way you've heard it is a myth. Steven is correct; if you have two of the EXACT SAME pages on your own website, one will be indexed and the other will not. That is your "duplicate content penalty".
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          • Profile picture of the author Darrel Hawes
            Very helpful thread...I'm sure many folks have gained much value from it.

            And Angela...my sister and her family lived in Aberdeen for a time. We enjoyed visiting them there.
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            • Originally Posted by Darrel Hawes View Post

              Very helpful thread...I'm sure many folks have gained much value from it.

              And Angela...my sister and her family lived in Aberdeen for a time. We enjoyed visiting them there.
              That is totally cool, Darrel. I have been here most of my life and it's possible I might have known them.
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  • Profile picture of the author ecoverartist
    I must have totally missed this one! Who the heck is Travis and what does he sell?
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthy
    I agree, Travis is a life saver. He has helped me energize my campaigns and Magic of Making Up was my first success story. His bum marketing method has really helped, very easy and well focused, works for most niches.
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  • Profile picture of the author matthewd
    Great post Steven.

    I got a chance to meet Travis back in the spring and we have stayed connected since then. I started doing some work for him, so we talk on a regular basis either through email or over the phone.

    The last time I got off the phone with him, I was just grinning ear to ear as I read back over the notes I took on the conversation... the information from that single conversation made almost $1,500 that week and it continues to make me money every day.

    He is one of the most genuine and helpful people I have ever met. I have made so much money because of him and he has given me so much advice... much better advice than I have paid several thousand dollars to learn before.

    I love to see a post that gives him so much credit. Every time I read a thread about Frank Kern or Mike Filsaime or pretty much any other "guru" I just think to myself how none of these people compare to Travis.
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  • Profile picture of the author bobsstuff
    Steve,
    Thanks for another inspirational post.
    I am glad to hear you dropped the 14 hour days. It always sounded like you were in front of the computer too many hours.
    HOWEVER, it sounds like it paid off because you found "your way".
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  • Profile picture of the author Warrior Dude
    HI Steven,

    I am curious also. You mentioned above it is all in the niche research. Could you explain that to us a little or maybe make a new thread about it?

    WarriorDude
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  • Profile picture of the author Bishop81
    Steve, your post makes me rethink a few things...

    I was getting ready to work on building a product, and building a list in the meantime, but now...

    There's already the same product (probably better) at clickbank, and I could get $40 per sale for it. I know enough to write a ton of articles and build lenses and blogs, and everything else that would need to be done. The visitors would still get a quality product, I would make more per sale than I was probably going to charge, and wouldn't have the headaches of dealing with my own product...

    I may think about making the list, still, so I can push certain offers to them from time to time...

    I know I've mentioned it once before, but your HIP is what got me into all this.
    Thanks for doing the MMO stuff while you did.
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  • Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    why knock myself out creating products to earn 4, maybe 5
    thousand a month with them when I can do almost nothing and make
    twice as much selling stuff that REAL people REALLY want and I don't
    have to...

    create product
    create sales page
    create squeeze page
    create blah, blah, blah
    Um...because each product = another 4-5K a month?

    And because you can let an army of affiliates to do all the work for you once your product is complete?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Sol
      Originally Posted by killercopy View Post

      Um...because each product = another 4-5K a month?

      And because you can let an army of affiliates to do all the work for you once your product is complete?
      I can't agree with you. Not EVERY product you create will actually make you money... Especially when people (affiliates) don't really know who you are...
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      • Profile picture of the author John S. Rhodes
        We make virtually all of our money by selling our our products and services.
        We do promote as affiliates but that only drives 5-10% of our income. We
        prefer to roll the dice with our own stuff. We want control. We want
        ownership. There are other reasons as well.

        With that said...

        Steven's making some great points about why it makes sense to be an
        affiliate. And I'll admit that we have affiliate programs for our products and
        memberships. So, we love affiliates. But that's not our main revenue stream.

        My point is to consider all the angles. There's also a middle ground. You can
        create your own products but also affiliate products. It's not all or nothing.
        We diversify.

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      • Originally Posted by kiev View Post

        I can't agree with you. Not EVERY product you create will actually make you money... Especially when people (affiliates) don't really know who you are...
        That is true...but the statement/question was: why spend time making a product that brings $4,000 to $5,000 a month when he could make double that as an affiliate.

        My point is to keep ongoing...don't put all your eggs into one basket. At any time, one or even all of your affiliate programs could dry up or be discontinued altogether. Last year, i was making a killing as a stubhub affiliate. Out of nowhere, they changed their commission structure and my income was cut in half.

        So, if you can have a product or two (or even more) making $4,000 to $5,000, why not do that?
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        • Profile picture of the author Alex Sol
          Originally Posted by killercopy View Post

          That is true...but the statement/question was: why spend time making a product that brings $4,000 to $5,000 a month when he could make double that as an affiliate.

          My point is to keep ongoing...don't put all your eggs into one basket. At any time, one or even all of your affiliate programs could dry up or be discontinued altogether. Last year, i was making a killing as a stubhub affiliate. Out of nowhere, they changed their commission structure and my income was cut in half.

          So, if you can have a product or two (or even more) making $4,000 to $5,000, why not do that?
          Well, yeah. As you said "don't put all your eggs into one basket." - that applies to both, publishers and affiliates. I know too many people who ran ONE campaign - the WATER CAR stuff... and now these people are broke lol. People need to diversify - regarless of the fact if they publish or promote. However, products like MOMU will most likely last for a very long time if not forever...
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  • What are you all talking about? MOMU is run by a guy named T-Dub. :p
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    • Profile picture of the author naruq
      Diversify. Market affiliate products and services. In addition, you can create your own products and services for specific niches.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    It's great to hear your opinion Steven, however people should consider their own situation.

    I make a good income as an affiliate marketer and it's great to hand over all the admin to someone else.

    As a product creator and list builder you own an asset and you can leverage it more against your competition than you can as an affiliate.

    As an agency you can leverage your skills into bigger problems to be solved for higher rewards.

    My point is this - being just an affiliate is wasting opportunity. It's better to own the racecourse AND the racehorse. You can make a lot more than $14,000 a month with 5 hours a day if you are prepared to step it up a little.

    A simple addition to your current affiliate model would be to create such a high value complementary bonus to Travis' product that you have leverage over the market which would lead to requests from clients who already have Travis' product to buy it from you. You then start building a real asset in the form of a product/site that could be sold for multiples of income, and you have a list of proven buyers.

    Since you already have done the keyword research, you write gazillions of articles, it would be no effort to outsource this content to a third party for compilation as its own e-book, an MP3 voice recording of it and have a hot e-cover designed.

    At the very least you could offer this up as a freebie to build your list before handing over your hard-won prospect to a third party to make them rich.
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  • Profile picture of the author Erich
    Check this out the search results on Google this thread is number 1 out of 306,000 Magic Of Making Up Travis - Google Search
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  • Profile picture of the author fm1234
    I agree with the props for Travis -- in fact, along with two other guys here at the WarriorForum, Travis restored my faith in the idea that just someone can be a "name brand marketer" (also called a "guru") and not be a scamming douchebag. Travis did it by talking openly about things he's tried that flamed brighter than a gay pride parade, by being as friendly and down to earth as a golden retriever, and by making everything he teaches his list truly open and accessible -- there's no "secret third step" or whatever that he holds back to protect his own interests.

    The other two guys, in case it's of interest --

    Chris Rempel, for writing the best IM book ever published and one of the only ones that lays out that metric f-load of work that needs to be done today to get a passive income tomorrow, and as far as I am aware the only marketer to date who lays out real specifics of his process in the sales letter, rather than writing a 2,000 word ramble about how rich he is.

    The third one -- uh, a little awkward, but it's Steven Wagenheim. No one on this forum, no one, has posted up more specific and detailed info, case studies, tutorials and motivational material than you Steve.


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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Hunter
      Originally Posted by fm1234 View Post

      The third one -- uh, a little awkward, but it's Steven Wagenheim. No one on this forum, no one, has posted up more specific and detailed info, case studies, tutorials and motivational material than you Steve.

      Frank
      Frank, you gotta mancrush on Steve?

      Get a room!

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  • Profile picture of the author atom1980
    I haven't made a CB sale for 2 weeks now, and then yesterday I see I sold MOMU along with an upsell for it, which bumped my commissions up nicely. In the excitement of my discovery I wrote another article, and plan to do many more. So to date I have 3 sales to 2 articles so far.. and very happy.

    And to answer iciejay above me, as far as I know, you most certainly can put your articles on your blog etc. The duplicate thing is only an issue if you put 2 articles on the same site. I tend to wait till about a week after the article has gone live before publishing it elsewhere. That is MY understanding however, and I welcome correction if I am wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author kevin campbelle
      Steven,

      Have you ever used the daily strategy for about a month and then cut back the daily distribution of articles to once or twice a week instead of every single day and check the results?

      I think you always say that if you stop writing daily articles then your income might go down but there must be some point of diminishing returns from writing articles daily. Is it possible to maintain your current income level (or probably a good percentage of it) by doing the 20 articles a day for only twice a week instead of daily?

      So if you are making $10,000 per month doing this daily, can you maintain at least $8,000+ per month doing it twice a week instead? This way you might make 20% less income but you may be able to free up your time by 67% which can be used to find another profitable income stream.

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      • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
        I have an adsense site that I haven't touched or updated since the end of February, and it still makes me money every month...because I wrote about 60 articles linking to it.

        From what everyone has told me, and I find this to be true, once you have written a bunch of articles linking to your site, you just get to the point where traffic comes in on its own. Now I have absolutely no doubt that MORE traffic would come in if I kept writing more articles, but I got burnt out on that particular subject.


        Originally Posted by kevin campbelle View Post

        Steven,

        Have you ever used the daily strategy for about a month and then cut back the daily distribution of articles to once or twice a week instead of every single day and check the results?

        I think you always say that if you stop writing daily articles then your income might go down but there must be some point of diminishing returns from writing articles daily. Is it possible to maintain your current income level (or probably a good percentage of it) by doing the 20 articles a day for only twice a week instead of daily?

        So if you are making $10,000 per month doing this daily, can you maintain at least $8,000+ per month doing it twice a week instead? This way you might make 20% less income but you may be able to free up your time by 67% which can be used to find another profitable income stream.

        Kevin.
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        • Profile picture of the author kevin campbelle
          Dana,

          Is it still making the same monthly average as at the earlier part of the year or is it decreasing slightly?

          If you do good keyword research initially then the articles should be able to hold good rankings in the search engines to bring in consistent traffic.

          If you do no keyword research then you may have to keep writing a certain number of articles to keep the income level up. What I'm trying to get at is if this is necessary to do every day or if it can be done a couple times a week. Then there is the added piece that some niches will be different to others.


          Not coming from a lazy standpoint or anything but from a working smarter standpoint.

          Kevin.
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        • Profile picture of the author WebGato
          Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

          I have an adsense site that I haven't touched or updated since the end of February, and it still makes me money every month...because I wrote about 60 articles linking to it.

          From what everyone has told me, and I find this to be true, once you have written a bunch of articles linking to your site, you just get to the point where traffic comes in on its own. Now I have absolutely no doubt that MORE traffic would come in if I kept writing more articles, but I got burnt out on that particular subject.
          Yes, this is absolutely true. I have Adsense/affiliate sites that I made back in 2005 that are still making money even though I've completely neglected some of them for over two years. They still get traffic from the search engines and from the articles I've submitted. Article marketing, done right, can definitely produce long term income better than any other traffic method I've tried.

          Oh, and about Travis, life would be so much easier if more (any) merchant/affialiate managers were like him.


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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh
    One more vote for Travis AKA "TDub"

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  • Profile picture of the author Peggy Baron
    I always open Travis' emails because he's real, entertaining (and real entertaining?), and I feel like he's looking out for little 'ol me.

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    DANG!

    I don't know what to say?

    Thank you Steve and EVERYONE!

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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Travis,
    It's about time you made an appearance with all the buzz around here about you and your great product. You are the best for any beginner affiliate marketer to work with. You really hand us all the tools we need to succeed.

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    • Profile picture of the author Carol J Smith
      My plan was to continue with my affiliate marketing plans, and eventually sell my own ebooks. This gives me something to think about and possibly reevaluate my plans..

      Carol
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash37
    I do this, average far less than you lol. 14k is GOOD, but I promote like 4 products compared to your 20+. How do you go about entering a new niche Steve? I usually roll out minisites and traditionally market them, but its a bummer when one goes bust...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Bogowski
    Steven,

    A few weeks ago you wanted to drop Clickbank and all affiliates because you claimed that you didn't need them. Now you are considering changing your entire business model and become an affiliate marketer... This seems like a little backward logic to me.

    Hasn't your recent success with affiliate marketing shown you how powerful it can be? You didnt want affiliates to promote your products because you can do it better, and maybe you can but why bother? Here you are doing the promotion for Travis while you could have someone doing the promotion for you.

    As an exercise why not take one of your existing products and spend a week looking for affiliates (outsource this if you don't have the time). Let OTHERS do for YOU what YOU are doing for Travis right now. To me this seems like a no brainer if you already have a good selection of products you know sell.

    Just a thought
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Mike Benkovich View Post

      Steven,

      A few weeks ago you wanted to drop Clickbank and all affiliates because you claimed that you didn't need them. Now you are considering changing your entire business model and become an affiliate marketer... This seems like a little backward logic to me.

      Hasn't your recent success with affiliate marketing shown you how powerful it can be? You didnt want affiliates to promote your products because you can do it better, and maybe you can but why bother? Here you are doing the promotion for Travis while you could have someone doing the promotion for you.

      As an exercise why not take one of your existing products and spend a week looking for affiliates (outsource this if you don't have the time). Let OTHERS do for YOU what YOU are doing for Travis right now. To me this seems like a no brainer if you already have a good selection of products you know sell.

      Just a thought

      Mike, it's a great thought, and now that I have greatly reduced my work
      day, I guess I could go on an affiliate recruiting campaign.

      But this is what I'd have to do first.

      1. I'd have to write up ads for my affiliates. I know I teach people to write
      their own ads (which is what I do) but I know that affiliates want things
      as easy as possible.

      2. For my list, I'll probably have to offer an incentive to really promote
      these products, such as a cash prize to the person who made the most
      sales in a month over a certain number.

      I guess I should give this one more shot before I totally give up on getting
      affiliates for good. Again, the problem is, when you make so many sales
      on your own, the urgency isn't there. I want to work less, not more. But
      maybe if I put in the time to do this NOW, in the long run, I WILL work less.

      Anyway, it's worth a try.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Tani
    Steven,

    I know that you've inspired a lot of people with this post (oops..almost wrote "expired" ). We know that you write articles pretty much every day...but I was wondering if you could mention an average of how many articles you already have written for each niche that has gotten you this far.

    I, like a lot of people I'm sure, have done some article marketing and then gotten distracted by other things when the money didn't start rolling in.

    Could you give us a goal to reach towards?

    Love,
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Shannon Tani View Post

      Steven,

      I know that you've inspired a lot of people with this post (oops..almost wrote "expired" ). We know that you write articles pretty much every day...but I was wondering if you could mention an average of how many articles you already have written for each niche that has gotten you this far.

      I, like a lot of people I'm sure, have done some article marketing and then gotten distracted by other things when the money didn't start rolling in.

      Could you give us a goal to reach towards?

      Love,
      Shannon

      Shannon, it varies from niche to niche with me. In the case of Travis
      product, I write just 1 article a day. That's it. For other niches I may
      write more or less. It depends on how much traffic I get from each
      article. If I find that one article gets me a lot, I won't kill myself writing
      a lot of them. But if I find that one article doesn't, but the traffic is good
      and converts well, then I'll write more articles. If the product isn't converting
      I may just drop it altogether.

      I wish I could give you a "do this, do this and do that" but there are too
      many variables involved as far as how MY mind works.

      That's why each person has to do what works best for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I agree Steven, the IM niche is not right for some people.

    I have one product selling for $100k a time and if all I did was sell one a year that would be fine, so your 5 hour days seem like hard work to me, but then I worked way too hard in the past so I make a point of finding things to do that don't feel like work these days. But selling outside the IM niche is way easier and it's a shame that so many people think that making money by selling other people make money products seems such a good idea.

    I've been out of the IM niche for a few years really. I just do the odd thing here and there now to help out people who are serious about what they're doing.

    Life's too short to settle for mediocre results.

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  • Profile picture of the author Vyliss
    Funny how some people take no effort to make sales while others just can't even if both are doing the exact same thing!

    Anyway, <3 Travis, he is the best 'guru' out there. The only one that never feels like is trying to sell me anything.

    Now I just need to get him to respond to my emails...
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    • Profile picture of the author Travis72802
      Originally Posted by Vyliss View Post

      Funny how some people take no effort to make sales while others just can't even if both are doing the exact same thing!

      Anyway, <3 Travis, he is the best 'guru' out there. The only one that never feels like is trying to sell me anything.

      Now I just need to get him to respond to my emails...
      PM me girl!

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  • Profile picture of the author Kelly Verge
    I put up a site and a few articles a little while back to promote MOMU - truthfully, it was just a "wonder if I can do anything with this" kind of thing.

    As of this morning I have 238 visitors to my site and 162 clickthroughs to the MOMU sales page but still zero sales. I'm pretty sure my articles and my page both are right on target for the product, and the very high percentage of clickthroughs tends to back this belief up. I was just hoping for sooner and bigger results.

    I know the numbers are statistically insignificant, but honestly the zero has kept me from putting up more articles to get the traffic flowing faster. All of the replies to Stephen's post have me rethinking this. I might have to put a few more hours into this to see what happens.
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    • Profile picture of the author Travis72802
      Originally Posted by Kelly Verge View Post

      I put up a site and a few articles a little while back to promote MOMU - truthfully, it was just a "wonder if I can do anything with this" kind of thing.

      As of this morning I have 238 visitors to my site and 162 clickthroughs to the MOMU sales page but still zero sales. I'm pretty sure my articles and my page both are right on target for the product, and the very high percentage of clickthroughs tends to back this belief up. I was just hoping for sooner and bigger results.

      I know the numbers are statistically insignificant, but honestly the zero has kept me from putting up more articles to get the traffic flowing faster. All of the replies to Stephen's post have me rethinking this. I might have to put a few more hours into this to see what happens.

      That sucks!!!

      Sorry you aren't off to an easier start.

      I would be glad to take a look at your articles
      and landing page if you want to send me a PM.

      I will say...

      The #1 mistake with articles and landing pages
      that I see with my affiliates ...is LACK OF EMPATHY.

      The easiest way to detect this is to read
      your article/landing page/copy outloud.

      Do you sound brash and uncaring?

      or warm, caring and like a friend or caring
      family member?

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      • Profile picture of the author terryrayburn
        Originally Posted by Travis72802 View Post


        The #1 mistake with articles and landing pages
        that I see with my affiliates ...is LACK OF EMPATHY.....

        ....Do you sound brash and uncaring?

        or warm, caring and like a friend or caring
        family member?

        Travis
        Travis,

        You are so right. That's why I will always read your emails, even if the subject is not of any interest to me.

        That's saying a lot, as busy as things can be.

        Terry
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        • Profile picture of the author Travis72802
          Thanks Terry! Glad to know you
          are there!

          I just sent out a note on this
          topic after reading this thread.

          Hope it will help because it really
          is hard to write and write and write
          and get puny sales here and there.

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          • Profile picture of the author jem
            Hi to the people that Travis told to pm him,

            did he get back to you? Did it take a few days and i'm just being impatient? I appreciate he is busy but i'd at least like to know if he'll get back to me - i've emailed before with no reply.

            thanks
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            • hehe..actually one thing i like bout Warrior is the way they write is so convincing, like Steven first review...actually by blasting that very same review writing through email, u can get at least 3-4% convertions too..thanks for that helpful and strong review...u inspired me bro
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