Why Do We Hate RAPID Growth?

You seem cocksure that you'll become rich on the Internet. Do keep us posted on how that works out for you. :-)

I'd say GS it is that good old, 4 lettered F word: FEAR

Most people are terrified that they will run out of time and desperately grab for growth hacking tips, techniques and hacks, being afraid of patience, of persistence, and the very idea that what they most want - long term growth - will take some time to come into form. Of course, most of these folks fail horribly because desperate people are impatient, greedy, and flat out cannot see straight or act intelligently. The few who succeed worldly-wise are never satisfied. Crappy way to live. Almost like you're in a prison of worldly success, stacking chips, then wondering why you're doing it, and wondering even more deeply why you're not happy doing it. If you never feel full, whole and complete, you ain't happy. But if you feel whole and complete, you will be as happy as can be, plus you'll have the patience and persistence to do miraculous things, vibing much higher than the growth hacking level of hurry-fear.

Hey; nothing wrong with having worldly success quickly. But the split second you add a time element to goals, you fear running out of time. Big time Mind Eff here, because ego fights this truth, but thinking it through, you know it is so.

Many experienced Warriors who have enjoyed the ride - ups and downs - know it takes years to build something:

- sustainable
- fun and incredibly fulfilling
- meaningful
- sound
- rock solid

and it cannot be rushed. We also know - not that any of us is aiming to be a billionaire - that the most successful people in history growth hacked nothing. The billionaires of the world know that good things take time, because you cannot create something meaningful and impacting from fear, and rapid growth is almost always fully based in fear.

Just a 43 year old's take who's built up something of a blog (or so billionaires think) and pretty darn boring lifestyle over a decade

Ryan

PS...as an aside, always ask yourself...."What the frick is the rush?" Gets me on purpose again.

Partly because we've seen too many people come to this forum thinking they were going to get rich quickly.

They don't.

Then they get discouraged and quit. A lot of them could have built a business if they had kept going. Learning, adjusting, adapting.

If you are one of the few that get rich quick then "Yay!" We'll applaud your success.

But we're trying to keep from setting beginners up with unrealistic expectations.

There's already a lot of hype in the internet world. I prefer not to add to it when I can give someone practical advice instead.

Our intent is not to slow anyone down, but encourage them to carry on if things don't happen for them overnight.

Rose

Hi GS12,

There's nothing wrong with rapid growth in business as far as I'm concerned.
The problem comes in when someone has wild expectations of overnight success or crazy promises from so-called internet Gurus that give people unrealistic hopes without putting in the work to achieve success.
Perhaps you can share some of the rapid growth tech start-up growth hacks with us. It would be a great opportunity to add value to the forum and ultimately put some money in your pocket.

Thanks for sharing.

Enjoy your outcome!

no one hates rapid growth. it is just that most times if you take things so fast you tend to do a lot of mistakes that you regrate later

Growth expectations - in fact, often growth requirements - differ from business to business. In the tech industry, if your company doesn't expand quickly, you risk being overtaken by tech developments. Similarly, if your business relies on exploiting a trend, hanging around wouldn't be a good idea. You'll want to strike while the iron's hot.

But if you're entering an evergreen market and you intend to be there awhile, it makes sense to take some time to learn the ropes and build a solid foundation.

It's a reflection of who's left here posting. It has nothing to do with what's possible.

Mike Geary ain't posting here. Chris Haddad ain't posting. The folks behind Grand JV ain't posting.

But ...

A 70 yr old guy who created a crotchety forum persona is. As is a 43 yr old guy who still believes in fairy tale level magic.

Make sense now?

P.S. This was a common gripe even 7-8 years ago. If you notice, there's this belief that fast = bad. If a person never shakes that belief? Meh. It can happen fast. It does for a lot of people. They just don't post on WaFo. I don't know where that belief ... fast = bad ... comes from. Maybe one of the pseudo-psychologists can explain it. Lol. It may be because it is too much of a "shock" or something, I don't know. But you can "attack" that belief pretty easily.

If you look at entrepreneurship with the mindset of making the most money possible in the shortest amount of time, you're going to be disappointed, confused, and unhappy with the results regardless of your niche, business model, or personal effort.


But when you look at business creation as a journey and a "ride" that can open up new vistas, life bettering experiences, new people and exciting places . . . you don't have the urge to reach the destination in the shortest time possible. The destination is actually the journey itself.


Steve

Not sure where you got the idea for this 'rapid growth' thread - I think most of the advice to 'go slow and steady' is given to those who start posting big plans for huge income - with no plans for how to earn it.

Your questions have been basic, such as....

And you often reference well known guru names in your posts - which is a common trait of new marketers. To me, that's a sign of reading too many sales pages but you can learn from those, too.

There is no collective 'we' - you'll find much advice here on studying what others do - on using proven tactics rather than trying to create a new wheel - and you are wrong to assume 'we' don't do this or that.

John Reese, Mike Humphrey, Russell Brunson and many other well known marketers used to post on this forum regularly. Today the WF is mainly a forum for new marketers - and many of the profitable marketers who post here do so because new marketers are their target market.

Making assumptions of what other marketers do or think or believe - doesn't move your business forward. Identify the knowledgeable members here IN THE IM METHOD YOU WANT TO WORK IN - and read what they've posted. There are SEO experts and dropship experts here, high paid freelancers and published authors here - but they aren't the folks who give you one line answers to simplistic questions.

Fast profit is possible - I've done it more than once. There's a difference between having a plan for a business and implementing it - and in talking about internet dreams and lifestyle.

....driving a BMW convertible....are you? Sometimes generalizations don't work.



I agree, though, a lot of fairy tale stuff here, too. It's a forum - really does take all kinds....

That's a key to it. Faster speed - greater risk. Higher yield - greater risk. It's a basic business concept.

But it's a life concept, too. Doing anything 'too fast' is risking loss of control and that can bring failure when success might have been the outcome. That may be why you see marketers advised 'slow and steady' - because loss of control can mean loss of potential.

I went to a horse show this week - my niece WON 6 of the 8 events - barrel racing, weave poles...etc etc. Her main competitor (second in most of those same events) has a faster horse and all the events are 'timed'.

My niece's top competitor is impatient - the clock is ticking in her head so she rides her horse faster than others and as a result often loses control. That girl was thrown twice - wasted time having to redo mistakes made due to speed...etc. Meanwhile, my niece keeps a steady pace, is in control of her horse and rides a clean course.

It's the same concept - go as fast as you can while also maintaining CONTROL. Works on a horse, in a car, in a business.

Some people have the mental acuity to be able to go at top speed without missing details or making mistakes - others don't. Knowing which method suits YOU can be the difference between long term success and failure.







I ignored your back yard because I'm jealous - we have several acres here but it's all grass and woods and I can't float on it!

I've sold a few monks but they are a pain in the ass to house if they don't sell quickly. Lot's of chanting and all my wine gone...

I don't see what's stopping you, go ahead and live fast and play hard...

just try to remember to leave enough lead for a hard right before you hit that brick wall....

Bob

I'd love to have rapid growth. I wish I knew the secret. Until I figure that out, I'm just gonna keep hackin away at what I'm doing now.

If you read most of the boards here at WF you will see the #1 complaint / hurdle is TRAFFIC. and the canned answer is simply keep at it and keep writing... kinda like build it and they will come.

Go over to the SEO section and read how people identify traffic sourses IE keywords.. they focus more on volume than anything else.. Forget the actual ability to get those people to A click on a link or B get in front of people that will actually buy something.

Growth in Internet Marketing is understanding the nature of the Net, and those that use it... where they go what the do, how they look for things. Identifying these things gives you the ability to target those that will benefit your endevours. GROWTH HACKING is just that - kinda on mathmatical steroids at that.

Put a post on the main board about probabilities and significance.. and you will get crickets. What you do read is some poor guy posting "im getting 10 visitors a day and no sales" Someone will inevitably say "Oh, you need to A/B test that." It IS a very logical answer ( if you have 100X the traffic )

The science behind growth just is not a skill set you can pick up and read about and understand... OK, I take that back.. you CAN.. but most choose not to. I mean seriously ever search " CRO " on Google? its not til recently that something that pertained to " Conversion Rate Optimization " was actually listed on the first page of listings let alone the 3 or 4th

The bottom line why growth is shyed away from. is most people here simply do not understand traffic. And there are guys like me that DO... but its really not something you can place in a nice little box and wrap up... it kinda changes with every instance How I get traffic for boxer shorts is totally different from how I get traffic for a wordpress plugin.

(im about to say a dirty word ) the TRUTH is understanding most of this falls back on the foundation principles of SEO. How to identify sources of traffic and what terms to use to obtain them. And the same exact principles apply if you are actually creating content to draw them from Search Engines, Paid Advertising, Social media, or e-mail marketing. BUT, SEO is a dirty word. The whole just write crap... oh my goodness.. may what ever higher power be by your side. You NEED to understand and TARGET your ideal market. KEYWORDS is how that is done.

If people would just start looking at SEO from the discovery stage aspects.. they would better understand what it is they are doing and why.

*** Edit / added

So an example of growth... A few years back, I had a friend with a forum.. and he was asking me about traffic... I did some research, and we ended up striking a partnership. The research? At the time there were but a few woocommerce themes. Mystile happened to be one of them. 1,000,000 downloads at the time and little to no content. In the course of a year... I sent the traffic through the roof. here we are 5 years later and the forum has changed hands a time or 2.. type in " Mystile Theme tutorials " and look at the " uploadwp " listings on the main page.. its not even about a #1 serp listing.. it is straight up serp domination - that after 5 years its still holding ( a testimate that SEO is A effective, and B timeless if done correctly )

"Go over to the SEO section and read how people identify traffic sourses IE keywords.. they focus more on volume than anything else.. Forget the actual ability to get those people to A click on a link or B get in front of people that will actually buy something"

Exactly, volume sheds very little light on motivation and intent. I would rather be in front of 10 people who are ready to buy, than a million that walk right past me.

This belief in the need to scale rapidly is one of the reasons so many get caught up in the tools and automation game:They think (or have been lead to believe) that if they just spam enough people somebody is bound to buy eventually. And sometimes it works, even a broken clock is right twice a day...

Numbers are fickle things, but the nature of man's needs hasn't changed since the dawn of time.

Bob

Once you develop the skill sets to succeed at something then surely one can think of rapid growth but the thing is why would you be in such a hurry because there is stuff that you might miss when in hurry.

You need patience in business and unfortunately many people lack that!

Because we are scared of change , and we are taught from our childhood that we can not resent the ideas of our elders

Okay so let me answer why

People hate the concept of RAPID Growth because it's bloody difficult and in many cases we blame those that achieve it with "luck", "DNA" , conditional situation.

Let me give you an example: i made a fortune in the App store. It was fast. I started in the industry and after just 11 months I was mainly an authority.

I spoke in London, China, Singapore, I became Udemy best seller, Podcast guest and I CRUSHED IT..... made tons of money, got featured everywhere.... I was the fastest rising star in the App industry.

RAPID Growth?

Hell yeah. RAPID x 11...

But.... it destroyed me.

Literally.

the Speed of the growth created weak structures in my business model and even in my personality as an entrepreneur.
In other words, it was so fast, it was weak...

Is RAPID growth possible?
Yes

But there is a measure of DEPTH.... and the DEPTH is how strong is that building you are constructing while you are growing.



I hope this makes some sense.

It Depends whether we are doing SMART WORK or HARD WORK.....According to me We should work SMARTLY to grow faster...Off-course Smart Work doesn't mean shortcuts....but making Wise Decisions and strategies.

In order to get rich on the Internet, you do not need a whole life. In order to quickly get rich on the Internet, you need a cool idea for the project and its implementation.

It's a matter of lifestyle preference. You can either spend the next 5 years trying to make $10k/month from a straight pitch page sales letter (perfected by a "guru") with no backend marketing.... or ...you can make your foundation email marketing over the next 5 years and actually start earning around $1k-$2k per month following simple methods.

$1k-$2k per month doesn't sound like alot of money, but for MOST people, it's enough to keep them from NEVER working a job again.

But they hear the $10k/month talk within 30 days, and get blinded from the highest probability route... the slow one. How do you want to live your life 5 years from now? What is you're 30 years old now, and 5 years from now (35) you're making $1k/$2k a month?

Then... what is by age 40, you compound that money from more knowledge and experience, and actually begin making $10k/month. What route would you really want to follow? Life isn't going anywhere. I like the slow route. More people should.

People misconstrue rapid growth with the "get rich quick" thinking.
In my opinion it has nothing to do with it.
Rapid growth occurs when one is offering the greatest solution to the biggest problem people may have.
Combine that with a great system and alot of hard work(emphasis on working consistently to achieve momentum and massive results), and rapid growth can occur.
Rapid Growth is directly related to what you are offering and marketing efforts and should not be seen as a "dirty word".
For the skeptics, we are not advocating "get rich quick" type scenarios.
Thanks

True, l have been rushing for the last 10 years, and even now, (with the stockmarket) have to take it a bit more slower than l would prefer.

Yes, Frank Kern has had million dollar profit days, (l know l watched one of his videos once) but it took him more than 10 years to do it.

But l do have the occasional apple pie.

I am fine with risk, but reality tends to put on the brakes.

I certainly took a risk with my flyer business, put a year into that, did about 300 flyers in a year, and almost burned out. But the little money it brings in is nice, but the business model falling in a heap wasn't.

Now l am doing stockmarket investing, no ceiling, but unless l have a good idea as to what l am doing, potentially high risk.




PS Tony Robbins, phew, let's not go there.

Yes, he comes home one day and is greeted by the Feds, and goes through hell trying to convince them that the a****e who is selling his products is the culprit.

why do you think that it is almost impossible? I believe that everyone has his own way.