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Hello, I am new to the world of emailing. I currently have $18k to invest. Any ideas?

Good emailing softwares?
Good servers?
Best lists for opt in subscribers?
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Sounds risky why don't you invest in stocks or property where the returns are pretty solid?
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    • Profile picture of the author Caroline White
      That is because i have lost a chuck in real estate earlier and emailing attracts me anyways. I do not want to invest all of it but I do want to make sure that I end up getting some steady return for my investments.
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  • Profile picture of the author DURABLEOILCOM
    Invest in an Ecommerce business get to selling on Ebay and Amazon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Caroline White
      Can you guide me a bit more on that?

      You are right to be honest. I understand your point.

      Guys Thankyou so much for all the advice. I am really really grateful for this discussion as it has benefited me a freaking lot to be honest. I just want to state the following that i shall now be looking to investigate further into the matter and ensure that i do not loose my investment.

      I am going to go join some free courses to learn about how emailing works.
      I shall try my best to make sure that i keep in touch with all od you who tried their best helping me out here today.

      I am also going to invest a bit in email marketing and i have a list of 300k. The list contains interested people in hoteling and i shall be looking to target them in affiliation with a few restaurants my friend own.

      And also, I shall be looking forward to save the rest and ensure that I do not put all my eggs in one basket.

      Please suggest me some good software for emailing. Maybe based on automation. I am currently trying Sendgrid but i do not like its functionality. I also need to know that now a days which one is better? Saas or self-hosted?

      I have red on this forum and a few another about Campaigns plus software a lot. Is it good? If there are better suggest me. Also tell me about servers and from where i can get the best deals?

      Suggest me something under 3k as a whole if possible.

      well i have a list of opt in subscribers who are interested in heatlh and hoteling. I intend to target them basically in affiliation with a few restaurants my friends own.

      i will definitely be looking forward to read these books
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  • Profile picture of the author Nortus Fitness
    If you are willing to risk then go ahead as it does't have that much good ROI.
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  • Profile picture of the author rudi
    Originally Posted by Caroline White View Post

    Hello, I am new to the world of emailing. I currently have $18k to invest. Any ideas?

    Good emailing softwares?
    Good servers?
    Best lists for opt in subscribers?

    There are so many laws surrounding email marketing these days that you could stand to lose a lot more than your $18k if you email the wrong person through a purchased list.

    The ONLY lists you can trust are those that you have built yourself where you can prove when, where and how they signed up to your list. In addition you know what your list really is on the look out for.

    For instance, there is no point emailing someone about bitcoin investments if someone signed up to a list about debt management!

    You are better off using that $18k for a real investment
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by rudi View Post

      There are so many laws surrounding email marketing these days that you could stand to lose a lot more than your $18k if you email the wrong person through a purchased list.

      The ONLY lists you can trust are those that you have built yourself where you can prove when, where and how they signed up to your list. In addition you know what your list really is on the look out for.
      PLEASE stop repeating this totally bogus myth. There are many people making a very handsome income using lists that were purchased from legitimate list brokers that are double opt-in verified to receive third-party offers in various specific niches and more general offerings, also.

      Just because you have no experience in how to maximize the income potential of a purchased list, it benefits no one to have you disparage a legitimate income opportunity.

      I recently purchased a list of 55k US caterers that the client used to promote an online catering software product. Just how long do you think it would have taken to build that list? Let me ask that another way. How many YEARS do you think it would have taken?

      Personally, I wouldn't invest any amount of money in an email marketing business, but that's an entirely different issue. Savvy marketers that know what they are doing can benefit from using purchased lists in their marketing campaigns.

      If that wasn't a reality, there would not be any list brokers around that have been in business for decades.

      Thank you.
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      • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        PLEASE stop repeating this totally bogus myth. There are many people making a very handsome income using lists that were purchased from legitimate list brokers that are double opt-in verified to receive third-party offers in various specific niches and more general offerings, also.

        Just because you have no experience in how to maximize the income potential of a purchased list, it benefits no one to have you disparage a legitimate income opportunity.

        I recently purchased a list of 55k US caterers that the client used to promote an online catering software product. Just how long do you think it would have taken to build that list? Let me ask that another way. How many YEARS do you think it would have taken?

        Personally, I wouldn't invest any amount of money in an email marketing business, but that's an entirely different issue. Savvy marketers that know what they are doing can benefit from using purchased lists in the marketing campaigns.

        If that wasn't a reality, there would not be any list brokers around that have been in business for decades.

        Thank you.
        You probably don't want another million bux, but Caroline might, so, here is an idea.

        There seems to be market, and a gap.

        There are tens of thousands of people who have between 10k and 25k, like the OP, who are looking for SOMETHING, but not sure what or how to invest it.

        You and I, optedin, could easy come with dozens of ways to put that little amount of money to work profitably.

        But maybe there are thousands of people with the money, who don't know what to do, and the answer is, in MY opinion,

        they should do what is best for them.

        Depending on the risk, if the money they have is no big deal, to savings. The question, is, what do you want your money to do for YOU?

        And that, maybe is an opportunity. I bet I (or the we collective) could come up with an instrument of guidance to personal investment, and maybe some suggestions based on one of a kind input,

        so, what suits Mary, who wants a small steady income from her 18k, to Barb, who is willing to risk most of it for a yugge gain, would have very different investments to look at.

        Does such guidance exist? I couldn't find it. Lots of articles with advice, but is there an ONLINE investment instrument, a fill in the blanks, and coupled with expertise, spits out a suggestion, or offers up some follow up?

        Something like, do you want it to be passive or active? Something semi absentee?

        Just spitballing here, but, I think there might be better places than the WF to ask about how to invest your money, be it 10k or 25k.

        I get the OP asked specifically about email, which can be lucrative, albeit, may (I would think) require some understanding and expertise and may not be right for someone NEW to the game.

        Anyhow, there is my million dollar idea to the OP. Caroline, there are thousands of people in your boat, and hopefully it isn't the Titanic. Once you find a solution, for your investment, consider the process you are going through to be one which many people might be willing to pay for your experience.

        I guess that is what a business consultant might do, advise his clients on how to best invest their money, or a CPA, but they do have a stake in play and may not take personality or desires into play, oft dealing with red and black ink.

        A customized, one of a kind, personalized investment strategy to meet your specific needs, would such a thing be worth 1800 or 10%? of the 18k someone has to invest?

        Please let me know if such a thing exists, or reasons it shouldn't.

        GordonJ
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        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
          Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

          they should do what is best for them.
          Totally agree. Let me tell you, though, how many people I have in my life that knew what was best for them. Not many. All are getting old and gray and are weighed down with regrets about the choices they made in their life - when they were young and new precisely what they wanted for their life. :-)

          Just spitballing here, but, I think there might be better places than the WF to ask about how to invest your money, be it 10k or 25k.
          Ya' think??? lol

          I get the OP asked specifically about email, which can be lucrative, albeit, may (I would think) require some understanding and expertise and may not be right for someone NEW to the game.
          That was my thought on the matter. Let's be realistic. Ask 50 people in a IM forum how someone should invest their money and you'll get 50 different answers - all describing what THEY do to make money, whether they are successful at it, or not. They're just looking to validate their own beliefs.

          Anyone who takes investment advice offered on a IM forum deserves whatever they get.

          If the OP wants to all but guarantee some degree of profit, she should invest in Apple. :-) I doubt that anyone can give her a better suggestion with less chance of losing the investment.

          Cheers.
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          • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

            Totally agree. Let me tell you, though, how many people I have in my life that knew what was best for them. Not many. All are getting old and gray and are weighed down with regrets about the choices they made in their life - when they were young and new precisely what they wanted for their life. :-)



            Ya' think??? lol



            That was my thought on the matter. Let's be realistic. Ask 50 people in a IM forum how someone should invest their money and you'll get 50 different answers - all describing what THEY do to make money, whether they are successful at it, or not. They're just looking to validate their own beliefs.

            Anyone who takes investment advice offered on a IM forum deserves whatever they get.

            If the OP wants to all but guarantee some degree of profit, she should invest in Apple. :-) I doubt that anyone can give her a better suggestion with less chance of losing the investment.

            Cheers.
            I don't feel at all bad about shifting the focus. I agree (about advice on forums), but, it appears to be an UNDERserved market, by the professionals. My CPA won't touch anyone under 50k as regards investing advice.

            The truth is, 10 to 40 thousand dollars really isn't an interest for financial advisers, the legit ones. Instead, they get the come-ons from those guys like MOBE.

            They get you in, then drain your bank account.

            So-called franchise advisers are mostly shills, getting paid when someone they refer to signs up.

            25k is not much to the investment world in general, but it could do a lot of work for people who want to make it earn more than a bank or CD, or safe vehicles...especially if willing to do a LITTLE work.

            I sense Caroline the OP (original poster, for those unaware), may be in this category.

            She apparently got some bad advice when she lost a "chunk of change" in her real estate investment. I would guess because she lost CONTROL of her money.

            I could be very wrong, but I see a gap between the professional financial guys, the investment brokers, lawyers, and CPAs, who don't want small potatoes clients.

            Look at the millions MOBE took from people, with their apparent naive trust in Matt Lloyd, who sold them a "solid investment business model"...HA!

            Apple stock would be good for most, maybe. But there are those who want to work, albeit part time, and maybe a semi-absentee owned business would suit them just fine.

            But where do they find out about them?
            Who does the small investor go to, to get a personalized ASSESSMENT
            and then
            offers to match the person to, perhaps, a little known opportunity?

            Would someone with 18 to 36k to invest be interested?
            How do we find them?
            What is the offer? Free assessment, low cost? Specialized report with opportunities.

            I don't know. But seeing how many people have Lost MONEY over the years with scams like MOBE, and with little to no interest from legit investment advisers who don't want to waste time on small potatoes,

            it seems, and maybe wrongly so, that there is a group of people with money in hand,
            ready,
            willing and wanting to spend it...

            but get god-awful advice, or worse yet, public forum advice, or just aren't schooled enough in the ways of the world that Matt Lloyd (Matthew Lloyd McFee) lives in and scams in.

            An INDEPENDENT adviser, based on personality, goals and with a wide range and depth of the Opportunity markets, might be able to carve out a niche for folks like Caroline.

            NO?

            GordonJ
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            • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
              Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

              An INDEPENDENT adviser, based on personality, goals and with a wide range and depth of the Opportunity markets, might be able to carve out a niche for folks like Caroline. NO? GordonJ
              Like most business venture we''l never know until someone with the requisite level of competency, gives it their best shot. Personally, I'm quite jaded and not big on looking to others for anything in the way of advice, of almost any kind. There could be a market, but I'd never be a prospect. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Originally Posted by Caroline White View Post

    Hello, I am new to the world of emailing. I currently have $18k to invest. Any ideas?

    Good emailing softwares?
    Good servers?
    Best lists for opt in subscribers?
    You appear to be too eager to invest in something you admit, you know NOTHING about. Why?

    What is the appeal of email to you?

    One obvious mistake is the idea that emailing is some sort of a business model, when in fact it is just one way to present offers to potential buyers.

    Granted, a list of buyers, with a relevant offer, which is in line with the reason they are on the list to begin with, could prove to be very lucrative, it isn't about the email...

    it is about MATCHING the offer to the list.

    It would behoove you to take 30 days to look for PEOPLE who buy (lists) and how available are the products to offer to them?

    You need a source to fulfill on your email offers. What is your source?

    Like has been mentioned, you could quickly and easily lose your money with the wrong list or some bad advice, especially from a public forum, and any guru or teacher you get, had better have verifiable proof to the claims, or you are just putting a big target on your back from the many people who see some easy money from your post.

    Do NOTHING but research in Aug. Spend time, not any of your money and figure out what you really want, it sounds more like you want an absentee owned investment which returns regular and consistent dividends or profits.

    If that is what you want, email, has to be considered a high risk venture, you might do better with an absentee owned, low cost franchise, which has a tested and proven marketing method with it.

    When you do look at lists, you want to see BUYERS, the amount they spent, on what, and where they did buy from, you want to have a look at the PROMOTION which sold them, because that is information for you to learn from.

    There are many people who will offer you a joint venture, YOUR money, their lists and products, you want to CONTROL your money, don't you?

    Sounds like that was not the case in your real estate venture.

    This time, take a deep breath, DETAIL out what you want your money to do for you, give yourself time to explore other possibilities, or if the 18k can be lost without any ill feelings, then by all means, jump right in, email is a as good as any other way to lose all your money.

    GordonJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Sid Owsley
    Hi Caroline, welcome to the Warrior Forum.
    You made a good decision by coming here to get educated about online business. I think the best investment you can make is to invest in educating yourself first before spending money on servers, crypto, real estate or whatever. The great think about online business is that you can do a lot of research for free or at a very low cost. You can learn a lot on the Warrior Forum, YouTube, and just Googling. There are many free or low cost courses you can take to learn about email marketing, e-commerce, SEO, etc...
    Don't be so quick to spend your money unless you find something from someone who is a proven in the industry or a product or service that has solid performance behind it.
    Take your time, use this great resource that is the Warrior Forum to educate yourself first and start out small when you think your ready. Also, don't be unrealistic in your expectations as to how fast you will achieve success. Everything worthwhile requires an investment of time and education to be good at it.

    You're in the right place among the right people to learn about online business.

    Enjoy your outcome!
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    I'd ask different questions now Caroline.

    Why do you want to hop into internet marketing?

    What drives you?

    What niche excites you?

    Get clear on those answers. Investing money happens after you answer these questions honestly. Gives you a guide. Starts you on the right foot too.

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  • Profile picture of the author Brianna Trader
    Hi Caroline!

    Before I answer your question, my immediate advice would be to think about a niche that you enjoy, i.e. health, wellness, marketing, self-help, relationship, etc and try to solve a problem for that market. I will use myself as an example here and say this:

    I have been in social media management for about 9 years now and the one problem most people run into is how to obtain their first clients. The biggest challenge here was obtaining your first client without feeling discouraged or burned out from cold calling/emailing that never converts!

    So, my team and I came up with a software that seeks people who are actively looking for someone to manage their social media and use freelancer websites to advertise their needs on like upwork. Every day my team and I deliver clients who are actively seeking to have their needs met to the freelancer who is LOOKING for work. AND we teach them how to stand out from the crowd for a monthly fee.

    This is called Software as a Service and it allows you to solve a pain point in the market that will pay you monthly. The great thing is you can scale! For example, I offered the lead service then I charge $150/hr for a monthly coaching session. My students get a bunch of value and I create a loyal customer for life.

    You can also invest in a done for you system that you can plug into, invest no where near the 18k you have to spend and allow the system to do most of the leg work for you! I think you will like that solution since you are new to email marketing. The key to internet marketing is learning the art of sales and building a relationship with your audience.

    Some books I would recommend for you are:

    Launch by Jeff Walker
    DotComSecrets by Russel Brunson

    I hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author divyanshisharma
    Instead, you can invest in Share market or real estate for good return.
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    • Profile picture of the author Caroline White
      Share market will need thorough understanding of the topic i guess...
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Hunsons
    may be crypto currency investing? It's unstable and risky, but you may have a very good profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caroline White
    but the market is so dynamic and volatile, i will never risk it all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Obermair
    Not to pry but before determining where to invest the $18K, you need to understand your financial situation. Is the $18K all you have? Is this speculation money that if it disappears your life is in shambles? Although email marketing is a great model, and a lot of folks have mentioned that, you can start off with a lot less than $18K. I am glad that you are now considering free courses and learning more (this site is great for that as well).

    From the investment perspective, I agree with several folks in the group. The under $50K folks will not get much investment advice from the professional investors. Think about it, if they charge 3% for their services, that is $1500 a year. Not worth the time. Unfortunately, that is why a lot of folks put money into the discount brokers, read website recommendations and buy stocks. In my opinion this is not investing but speculating. You hope the stocks go up. Sadly, your real estate experience has been bad. This is where I have done well. With $18K and depending upon your credit score, you could purchase a $75K house in a second tier market (Memphis/Cleveland/St. Louis and the like) generating a couple hundred dollars a month cash, paying down the mortgage with tenant dollars and not paying tax on the income. Not the home run people are seeking, but do this every year and you will be amazing. But I digress.

    With such an awesome email list, I would spend a little a see if I could grow your business. Best of Luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by Obermair View Post

      In my opinion this is not investing but speculating.
      That simply depends on your stock picking acumen as well as your short and long-term investment strategies and goals.

      In my personal experience, there is nothing worse on this planet than being a landlord. Tenants can be the lowest form of life that crawls across the earth and the Courts bend over backwards to rule in their favor in any dispute and tenants will say or do anything to get out of making their rent payment. Been, there and done, that. No thanks.

      Owning rental properties is great - right up until the day that it isn't. From that day forward, there's nothing worse. lol
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      • Profile picture of the author Obermair
        Agreed on your stock picking acumen. I have some solid dividend stocks which have also grown well, but that is the extent of my stock market expertise. I feel as though I have little control in the stock market. But, I also do private placements with mining companies that provide me with warrants (additional upside). I don't put money into only one or two companies though; mining is a risky business. But that said, a portfolio of excellent management teams (geologists and funding folks) and this strategy has payoff rather well. But to me that is speculation - educated risk taking - not investing.

        As for all the tenants (I love your "lowest form of life that crawls across the earth" description), termites and toilets, I have an excellent property management team that handles that for me. Been doing it for several years and haven't had any issues (yet - knocking on wood).

        I also agree that the courts in some places are horrible. I live in New Jersey and wouldn't dream of buying a rental property here. The tenants stop paying and you just can't get them out! Lots of other states are like that. Texas and Georgia on the other hand - 5 days late payment and the sheriff tosses them out!

        I guess it depends on your expertise in investments. I don't do much with stocks, options or bonds. I am certain I would get killed - not my where I am knowledgable. Would love to hear about your stock investment strategy one of these days!
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        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
          Originally Posted by Obermair View Post

          I also agree that the courts in some places are horrible. I live in New Jersey and wouldn't dream of buying a rental property here. The tenants stop paying and you just can't get them out! Lots of other states are like that. Texas and Georgia on the other hand - 5 days late payment and the sheriff tosses them out!
          I'm in New Jersey. lol Buying rental properties was the second biggest mistake of my life, right behind running a hotel/bar/restaurant. I could have done without the bar. You're actually responsible and legally liable if someone gets killed after leaving your place, regardless of how vigilant you may have been. I bought the place from a guy that had two people killed when they wrapped their Corvette around a tree. He never got over it and I never got over dealing with the fact that it could happen to me, just as easily. Never got a good night's sleep until I left that behind.

          I guess it depends on your expertise in investments. I don't do much with stocks, options or bonds. I am certain I would get killed - not my where I am knowledgable. Would love to hear about your stock investment strategy one of these days!
          I have zero expertise, but an absolutely foolproof strategy. I bought Apple at $11 per share, before any splits. It's the only stock I own or ever will own. I've been hearing they have been going out of business since 1984, exactly how long I have been a loyal and loving Mac user. :-)

          For the most part picking stocks is just another form of gambling, but at least there are a few sure bets.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    Hey Caroline,
    First, I would suggest not announcing on a forum how much money you have to invest. You're going to bombarded with private messages with people offering you all types of services. IGNORE them all.

    Next, emailing is not a business in and of itself. When you have a business, emailing is one of many ways you can promote your business.

    What kind of business do you want to start? In what niche? And mostly, to who? Who is your ideal client or customer? What do they need that you can provide? Spend some time researching this first.

    Then come back and ask specific questions about buying lists, writing emails, promoting products through emails -- and you'll get more helpful answers.

    Looking forward to hearing of your success.

    Rose
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  • Profile picture of the author HarrieB
    Invest your money into different things:

    1. A coaching from someone respectable who can teach u the art of mailing.
    U can also try solo ads.

    2. Crypto currency: There are a few currencies like Golem, Tron which have a lot of potential U can invest a few hundred dollars buying both of them.

    3. Buy a ready made business/website from flippa etc which can help u get some recurring income every month via adsense.

    These are just a few things I can think of at present.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Originally Posted by Caroline White View Post

    Please suggest me some good software for emailing. Maybe based on automation. I am currently trying Sendgrid but i do not like its functionality. I also need to know that now a days which one is better? Saas or self-hosted? Do you mean shared hosting instead of Saas (which stands for systems as a software) ?

    I have red on this forum and a few another about Campaigns plus software a lot. Is it good? If there are better suggest me. Also tell me about servers and from where i can get the best deals?

    Suggest me something under 3k as a whole if possible.
    Since most people have not read this posts with those touting crypto, here is a little help. Have you looked into something like Constant Contact for e-mailing ? With 300 k subscribers you would want a good provider to keep you from running into trouble. There is also infusionsoft depending on your budget.

    The better run companies will be able to provide you some help and make it easier to earn money. Please do not tell people you now have 3k to spend or someone here is going to bombard with you spam in your private message box.

    Just google constant contact it will show up number one in a search.
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  • Profile picture of the author Coderunclebkk
    I would have to add that putting money into things you don't understand is NOT investing. It's SPECULATION.

    This means it's also gambling.

    Frankly, that's the way most retirement accounts are managed. They are speculating on someone being willing to pay more tomorrow than you paid today. This is likely to be true in the long run, but you have to ask yourself, "How long is the long run?"

    Ask yourself what you're trying to accomplish before you start investing.

    If you have enough money and that you don't need a high rate of return to retire or stay retired...
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    • Profile picture of the author Obermair
      A slight different between speculation and gambling. When you gamble you already know the odds are against you. When you speculate you are executing educated risk taking. For example, when you go to the casino, you know the house odds are already against you so in the long run you will likely lose - sure perhaps not in the short term. True speculation, as I do with mining private placements, is not just throwing a dart to find a stock or scanning the internet for a candidate, but getting to know the successful teams in the industry, understanding the value of the assets (not just in the ground, but the feasibility and cost of extraction), the political environment and then the potential upside (say 5-10x). Then we construct a portfolio of these companies figuring 3-4 fail, 3-4 do nothing and 1-2 rock (10x upside with warrants). Result in a crappy market has been 100%+ gains.

      So entirely agree that most folks are gambling - very few truly speculate.

      As for retirement accounts - I don't even believe in those. You are putting tax deferred dollars away for 30 years in the hope when you take it out you will have a lower tax rate. You want to retire poor? Put the money to work today (sure you will handover 25% in taxes up front) and create cash flowing assets. Sorry for sounding like a commercial - didn't want to do that! Just that I have done both - have a 401K, stopped putting money in a few years ago and today my 401K still stinks but my investments are doing better.
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  • Profile picture of the author affmarketer101
    Dropshipping - that's good amount of money for niche research, product research and marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by Caroline White View Post

    I am new to the world of emailing. I currently have $18k to invest. Any ideas?



    Caroline,


    The advice you're getting to the question above is all over the map.


    Members of the forum are sincerely trying to help you but all the varied responses simply suggest to me that investing money based on random people's thoughts in a public forum is not a sound or smart strategy.


    So may I suggest, first, that you put your money safely away and let it earn a little interest until you have figured out a money making system that is profitable and that can be scaled with some owner investment later on.


    In the mean time, become a student of both the niche you want to serve and the methods and strategies of online business models that can be profitably applied to that niche.


    You don't need to be buying software, services or the like just yet until you are better able to understand exactly what you really do need.


    Jump into Internet marketing if you like . . . but upfront investment of your nestegg is not necessary or prudent. Stay focused and concentrate on learning and understanding what it takes to make money in one niche with one business model. Many new marketers bounce from one thing to the next and loose all focus and concentration to the point that they flounder and wander aimlessly for many years. All you really need to do to make money online is to master one profitable income system then apply it persistently and doggedly!


    Welcome to the forum and the best to you,


    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
    No sign of the OP in a month and a half. Here for 2 days and then gone. Very typical.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    I hope she didn't blow her savings on some "foolproof" or guaranteed income product or software, only to lose her money and now proclaim IM is a scam!


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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      I hope she didn't blow her savings on some "foolproof" or guaranteed income product or software, only to lose her money and now proclaim IM is a scam! Steve
      No. These posters never take any action. These posts should be ignored. I embarrass myself, by posting, but usually I'm just warning people to ignore anything they get in the way of a suggestion.

      If I was ever going to invest money, I doubt that I'd be looking for advice on any forum, let alone one where, optimistically, about .5% of the members have probably made any money, at all - except for all of those millionaire bloggers, of course. Heaven knows, we've got a ton of those.
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      • Profile picture of the author HarrieB
        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        No. These posters never take any action. These posts should be ignored. I embarrass myself, by posting, but usually I'm just warning people to ignore anything they get in the way of a suggestion.

        If I was ever going to invest money, I doubt that I'd be looking for advice on any forum, let alone one where, optimistically, about .5% of the members have probably made any money, at all - except for all of those millionaire bloggers, of course. Heaven knows, we've got a ton of those.

        That made me spill my morning coffee... Hahahaha so true,..
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        • Profile picture of the author Obermair
          Laughed out loud as well... I have so many folks ask me for help and I help them out. A year later they ask me the same damn question. "what the hell have you been doing for a year". Answer - reading...

          Do something! Fail! Do something better! Fail again! And finally succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
    Originally Posted by Caroline White View Post

    Hello, I am new to the world of emailing. I currently have $18k to invest. Any ideas?

    Good emailing softwares?
    Good servers?
    Best lists for opt in subscribers?

    Seemingly your aim is to spend, rather than deciding what you can offer as part of a business plan.

    Perhaps it's wiser to reconsider your approach and ask yourself the question:

    What am I going to email ?
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  • Profile picture of the author megalinktraffic
    you can get aweber or group mail and for lists
    go for udimi
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  • Profile picture of the author dioni
    Buy zCash, according to some people cryptocurrencies are the future, but not those with not backup like BTC, but those which are privately held.... like zCash.
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