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Help!! How Do I report a fake site (Someone has stolen my business)

by jhongren
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Hi,

I just found out from Doug that someone
has set up a fake site same as mine and he even
stole the entire sales page.

How do I report it and get it to be taken down?

"Desperate...

John
#business #fake #report #site #stolen
  • Profile picture of the author Product Developer
    John,

    Report them to their Hosting company for "copyright infringement" (to find their hosting company do a whois check and look for their DNS)

    Also be sure to email them and let them know directly that you're on to them, also threaten them with a lawsuit! It might make them take the site down right away.

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  • Profile picture of the author projek001
    I never experience that. IF me, I'll contact the owner and then, tell them the problem. I he don't shut down the website, try to report to the authorities
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Sorry to hear the bad news John.

    Maybe you could follow the guidelines applied to this situation: contact hosting, contact owner?

    Hope everything gets solved quickly!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alican Yenidogan
    Don't contact the owner. He doesn't deserve to be contacted. Contact the payment processor. They might even close his account. If it is paypal, just call them and explain the situation, fax them something that shows its your copyrighted product and see what happens

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    • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
      Originally Posted by Alican Yenidogan View Post

      Don't contact the owner. He doesn't deserve to be contacted. Contact the payment processor. They might even close his account. If it is paypal, just call them and explain the situation, fax them something that shows its your copyrighted product and see what happens

      Alican
      Don't bother with paypal..they aren't interested and won't do anything.

      I had the same thing happen to me , eventually managed to get him shut down BUT it took a lot of effort,
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  • Profile picture of the author jhongren
    Thanks...I contacted the hosting company and clickbank ....

    Thanks everyone..."phew

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    A DMCA notice will do the trick very quickly. Go to domainingdiva.com ... second post down. I have provided instructions and a sample DMCA notice for anyone to use. I've had great success using it.
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    • Profile picture of the author jhongren
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      A DMCA notice will do the trick very quickly. Go to domainingdiva.com ... second post down. I have provided instructions and a sample DMCA notice for anyone to use. I've had great success using it.
      Thanks..after 2 hours of emailing the host....here is their reply

      Dear Sir,

      We had informed the account owner, and will be given 48 hours for the account user to amend or remove the information, should that not to be done, we will take down the site.

      Please note that as its a landing page of an intelligent product, hence if the user had achieved 75% different, no action will be done to the account as according to international guideline.

      Currently, they are 95% similar hence action will be taken to the account user.

      If after 48 hours the site is not amended or taken off by account owner, we will be terminating the account whereby the user will NOT be able to restore it.
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      • Profile picture of the author la dominatrix
        Originally Posted by jhongren View Post

        Dear Sir,

        We had informed the account owner, and will be given 48 hours for the account user to amend or remove the information, should that not to be done, we will take down the site.

        Please note that as its a landing page of an intelligent product, hence if the user had achieved 75% different, no action will be done to the account as according to international guideline.

        Currently, they are 95% similar hence action will be taken to the account user.

        If after 48 hours the site is not amended or taken off by account owner, we will be terminating the account whereby the user will NOT be able to restore it.
        So all they have to do to steal your product is to rewrite the sales page to be 75% different.........interesting
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  • Profile picture of the author Kustom
    Good to hear that the hosting company are being helpful and hopefully they will shut that person down!

    It's a shame people feel the need to copy and steal instead of creating their own. It's funny how these people don't realise that if they LEARN the TRUTH about what works then they can TEACH it themselves, from experience, and earn money.

    Oh well, on the bright side, it shows that you make products worth enough to make someone steal your business.

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  • Profile picture of the author Johnathan
    Hi John,

    As a side note (I totally understand where you are coming from, I had something similar happen to me a few years ago, and it was rectified ) --

    But as a side note -- something that may make you feel a bit better -- even when someone steals a webpage/product like that -- it is not necessarily anything to worry about. This is because many times these individuals don't know how to "market" the product. They think simply by stealing, they will magically get sales. But they don't "know" that you need to do the PPC advertising, the article marketing, etc. And even if they say do "get quick rich" type advertising (i.e., PPC) -- chances are they still don't know what makes a "good" ad vs a "bad" ad (so would end up spending a lot of money). So in the end, while they may see a few sales, it doesn't significantly detract from your own sales.

    The ones who *do* know how to market effectively would not normally steal that blatantly, because they would not want to get caught and risk having their whole business jeopardized.

    So, hopefully that might make you feel a little better

    Cheers,

    Johnathan

    Originally Posted by jhongren View Post

    Hi,

    I just found out from Doug that someone
    has set up a fake site same as mine and he even
    stole the entire sales page.

    How do I report it and get it to be taken down?

    "Desperate...

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris_Willow
    I feel your pain, John.
    happened to me too, but just like Johnathan said- the person didn't know how to market the service and went out of business quickly, probably assuming I wasn't making anything too lol.

    Let us know whether the hosting company takes him down or not.
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    • Profile picture of the author jhongren
      Originally Posted by Chris_Willow View Post

      I feel your pain, John.
      happened to me too, but just like Johnathan said- the person didn't know how to market the service and went out of business quickly, probably assuming I wasn't making anything too lol.

      Let us know whether the hosting company takes him down or not.
      Chris
      Thanks Chris...it has been taken down..
      and the owner left some photoshop fake
      clickbank checks....

      it is embarrassing to say the owner may
      be a local as he uses a local webhosting site...

      Sigh...
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  • Profile picture of the author jhongren
    Doug Barger, a fellow Warrior revealed more breaking news...
    this guy poses as me in Digital forum and want to sell my product
    plus, he successfully listed it at clickbank
    plus he has a linked account selling my stuff....wow...this guy is
    really a con man...

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinhuang
      Originally Posted by jhongren View Post

      Doug Barger, a fellow Warrior revealed more breaking news...
      this guy poses as me in Digital forum and want to sell my product
      plus, he successfully listed it at clickbank
      plus he has a linked account selling my stuff....wow...this guy is
      really a con man...

      John
      Bro,

      Look on the bright side. I think the guy is in love with you.

      I got some partners in the webhosting business in Singapore. It's a rather small community. I try to get some details on the guy since he's local. MSN me. =)

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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        He owns the web host? Good. Excellent, in fact.

        Go to his upstream provider with a copy of the takedown notice, if the site is up or gets put back up. There's a good chance he's going to modify the salesletter to fit his invented 75% rule, which means you need to give the upstream a copy of the product.

        If he's selling hosting and gets shut down, he may learn. The odds aren't good, but it'll crimp his style for a while.


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  • Profile picture of the author Aljiro
    Sorry to hear that John and I am glad it has been closed down.

    I am currently working on the you know whats when I found this @_@

    The 75% uniqueness stuff sounds a bit off for me. If the "salespage" is 75% different from yours does that give them the right to sell "your" product(w/o permission)?

    Oh Well I hope things go better from now on. Thanks John
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    • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
      Originally Posted by Aljiro View Post


      The 75% uniqueness stuff sounds a bit off for me. If the "salespage" is 75% different from yours does that give them the right to sell "your" product(w/o permission)?
      Was wondering the same. Who said 75% is the X number according to international guidelines?

      What guidelines? Source?
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  • Profile picture of the author jhongren
    Hey Guys... the latest development is the guy who stole
    my site owns the webhost....

    cant believe it....what can I do in this case?

    am I allowed to post the webhost url to inform
    fellow warriors to keep away?

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
      Originally Posted by jhongren View Post

      Hey Guys... the latest development is the guy who stole
      my site owns the webhost....
      Ahhh Now I understand the "75%" rule... Maybe he made that rule.

      am I allowed to post the webhost url to inform
      fellow warriors to keep away?
      Now sure about that John but i guess you'll be in trouble with Mods. Maybe you can post about it in RippOffReport and then share a link?
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    • Profile picture of the author Aljiro
      Originally Posted by jhongren View Post

      Hey Guys... the latest development is the guy who stole
      my site owns the webhost....

      cant believe it....what can I do in this case?

      am I allowed to post the webhost url to inform
      fellow warriors to keep away?

      John
      Now that's something. I strongly suggest following Mark's advice.

      He knows his stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author CliveG
      Originally Posted by jhongren View Post

      Hey Guys... the latest development is the guy who stole
      my site owns the webhost....

      cant believe it....what can I do in this case?

      am I allowed to post the webhost url to inform
      fellow warriors to keep away?

      John
      This makes it much easier - get a good lawyer who has experience in this area and work through them. I would not contact the company until I had legal advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris_Willow
    Wow, that's quite a surprise! And he said himself that in 48 hours they'll close it down if nothing has changed?
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      • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
        Honestly you should put together a report with your tips on how to deal with fraudsters. You seem to be pretty good at it.

        Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting View Post

        As I said above and someone else
        noted, in that case whack up a
        report on RipoffReport.com
        http://RipoffReport.com

        Get his contact details etc from
        Whois.sc http://Whois.sc

        Make sure you stay factual with
        your report.

        Word it carefully and you can also
        promote your own genuine website
        with the report that you submit.

        I hope this helps you out.

        Best of luck.


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    • Profile picture of the author TeamGlobal
      Hi John,

      Sorry this happened to you.

      You might want to make sure you get a copy of the product to see if it is the same as yours and then report this to Clickbank as well.

      Best of luck in getting this resolved quickly.

      All The Very Best,


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  • Profile picture of the author War_Guy
    As mentioned before, you should also talk with the payment processor. I have done this is the past and gotten things taken care of rather quickly.
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    • Profile picture of the author jhongren
      Originally Posted by War_Guy View Post

      As mentioned before, you should also talk with the payment processor. I have done this is the past and gotten things taken care of rather quickly.
      Thanks I have talked to Clickbank and hoped
      they close his account....

      The funny thing is when I have exposed him, this is what he replied.

      Dear Sir,

      I had suspended the account temporally until the internal investigation is over.

      Please note that we take copy rights and intelligent property very seriously and carefully at any point of time.

      Until the completion of investigation, no one other then the Company Director have the rights to unsuspend the account.

      More information will be update to you when the investigation completed.
      Cant believe he can still be so calm and I have exposed him.

      Next, he started taking down all his blog's about me page
      BUT I did a live camtasia recording of all his blog and sales page.

      John
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      • Profile picture of the author shaddai
        Hey, you might want to see if you can find who the domain registrar is & let them know about it. If it's GoDaddy, I've read of them just taking the DNS records for themselves & never giving it back because the domain registrant broke one of their rules...might be worth checking out.

        The other thing is, I have a hard time believing that slimebag owns a web-hosting company if he's gotta steal your stuff. Now, I'd believe that he's leased a VPS machine from someone else though..might want to do some deeper digging on the IP address to see if some other company's name pops up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
    ALWAYS file a DMCA takedown notice with Clickbank and the webhost in this case. Clickbank, BTW, will take this seriously. If you show that he copied your sales page and product, they'll shut his account instantly.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Even Webhosts have a service provider. See if you can find out who this is.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhongren
    Thanks Everyone...I have sent all the details to Alvin...
    going to flush this guy out....

    I also realise this guy starts to take down
    all the info on his about-me page and
    says "information suspended".....lol

    John
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