Creating a successful website in 2018

by mc9320
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I've had limited success over the past 7 years with Internet Marketing.

I've had a website which brought in over $1000 as an Amazon affiliate, only for a Google algorithm change to wipe it all out.

I've tried creating my own info product in a niche related to my profession. This has ticked a long over the past couple of years $150-$500 a month, but it's definitely on the slide, and there's not much I can do about it. The quality of traffic is getting worse and more people are asking for refunds (sometimes for ridiculous reasons)

So where shall I go to from here?

I like the idea of creating content for low competition keywords with little to no backlinks. It seems some IM'ers have found success this way in the past.

But when I try it, I can never get to page 1 despite having more in depth content than the competition.

So does this strategy work in 2018 or do you need backlinks or at least considerable domain authority to rank any blog post?
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteNameSales
    Join the club. We all have had are ups and downs with ranking. Experience shows that there is no quick SEO fix for every site on every topic or keyword combo. Google can, and has, changed algorithms numerous times and if you are totally dependent on one method, it can become useless in a flash. Don't forget submitting to Bing and Yahoo, Yandex and Baidu. They can help.

    Similarly, there's a a lot of up-to-date free information on sites like Search Engine Journal and Search Engine Land.

    You can also learn a lot from guys who make SEO their primary marketing focus. I'm thinking of Neal Patel and Brian Dean. There a several others.

    My own experience has been that patience is a virtue and a combination of paid and free traffic is the best way to go. Integration with social media and YouTube can also help as does linking and guest posting.

    At the end of the day, we're all on our own with this. It can be a burden or a challenge depending on your mindset. Many throw in the towel after a while. If you haven't, you probably like a good challenge.
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Originally Posted by mc9320 View Post

    I've had limited success over the past 7 years with Internet Marketing.

    I've had a website which brought in over $1000 as an Amazon affiliate, only for a Google algorithm change to wipe it all out.

    I've tried creating my own info product in a niche related to my profession. This has ticked a long over the past couple of years $150-$500 a month, but it's definitely on the slide, and there's not much I can do about it. The quality of traffic is getting worse and more people are asking for refunds (sometimes for ridiculous reasons)

    So where shall I go to from here?

    I like the idea of creating content for low competition keywords with little to no backlinks. It seems some IM'ers have found success this way in the past.

    But when I try it, I can never get to page 1 despite having more in depth content than the competition.

    So does this strategy work in 2018 or do you need backlinks or at least considerable domain authority to rank any blog post?
    Over the past two years, you've had a site which has brought in between 150 and 500 dollars a month, is this correct?

    What were your back ends? What lifetime value did you offer to your buyers?

    You like the idea of low competition keywords? Who doesn't?

    I think you should review your success, albeit moderate, and figure out why you didn't capitalize on it more...was it the topic? And why the refunds Now?

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  • Profile picture of the author NetMan
    Originally Posted by mc9320 View Post

    ... I like the idea of creating content for low competition keywords with little to no backlinks. It seems some IM'ers have found success this way in the past.

    But when I try it, I can never get to page 1 despite having more in depth content than the competition.

    So does this strategy work in 2018 or do you need backlinks or at least considerable domain authority to rank any blog post?
    Nowadays, if this is the only 'strategy' you have, count on, and use to get traffic you must be prepared to have DEEP pockets, and at least one full time SEO expert on board!

    Sadly, very few have yet to come to realise that SEO has dramatically changed in the last t-three-four years, but the industry is so HUGE and there are so much people, and still, offering seo services and doing the OLD (obsolete) way that the new way is hardly making to the mass market yet...

    For example, as you mention it, backlinking would still be relevant but even this has changed significantly to the point of many old backlinking tactics do not work any more, worse can get you banned from any listings. Hence, for one who doesn't know exactly how to do it backlinking has become very dangerous...

    More than ever, the web has become the source of research of INFORMATION and ENTERTAINMENT and, moreover THE MEDIA -while TV is declining- of choice for a whole up coming generation!

    Entrepreneurs now must start to think MEDIA and think about HOW media of the 'past' have kept us coming back, and coming back, and STICK to their medium for as long as they existed.

    The Internet, the Web, with all technologies surrounding it and to which now everyone has access, has opened the door to everyone of US to become our own MEDIA!

    Think about it. I said, THINK about it...

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  • Profile picture of the author redone111
    I have suggestion for you maybe help you.why you not forget about website for amazon affiliate and start youtube channel review products more safe and can have more earning and not investment.wish you good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve L
    Originally Posted by mc9320 View Post

    I've had limited success over the past 7 years with Internet Marketing.

    I've had a website which brought in over $1000 as an Amazon affiliate, only for a Google algorithm change to wipe it all out.

    I've tried creating my own info product in a niche related to my profession. This has ticked a long over the past couple of years $150-$500 a month, but it's definitely on the slide, and there's not much I can do about it. The quality of traffic is getting worse and more people are asking for refunds (sometimes for ridiculous reasons)

    So where shall I go to from here?

    I like the idea of creating content for low competition keywords with little to no backlinks. It seems some IM'ers have found success this way in the past.

    But when I try it, I can never get to page 1 despite having more in depth content than the competition.

    So does this strategy work in 2018 or do you need backlinks or at least considerable domain authority to rank any blog post?
    You definitely have to keep creating new content, improving past content, trying new things, etc. It's a never ending process and the second you stop you'll risk it eventually fizzling out. I had the same problem after putting out a few ebooks that under performed. You have to not trivialize the success you've achieved and press forward to improve it! I'm in the same boat.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    What do you really really really love doing?

    This is the answer to insulating yourself against algorithm changes and all that jazz. Anybody who struggles or rides a rollercoaster picks a niche or website or business not based on their passion, but based on profits, believing it is a hot or in demand niche. Huge mistake buddy; without passion, your motivator is outcomes-based solely, and those outcomes need to go up and down, then down more, to shake out most folks in it for the wrong reasons, to ensure us passionate folks are left

    I'd move away from building a successful website as being your motivator and toward building a business based on some niche you feel passionate about. Tie the passion to problems. This way you'll keep going when most folks get shaken out, plus you'll outshine most folks in your niche, or online, for that matter.

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    • Profile picture of the author NetMan
      Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

      ...

      I'd move away from building a successful website as being your motivator and toward building a business based on some niche you feel passionate about. Tie the passion to problems. This way you'll keep going when most folks get shaken out, plus you'll outshine most folks in your niche, or online, for that matter.

      Ryan
      Yes, and passion should be the main engine behind any project one wish to undertake. Otherwise, if there's no real passion, even though you could be making money for a while, you will quickly lose interest and let things slowly go to oblivion like many have previously experienced right here in this community. mmm...

      "Passion, is the only real driving force behind solid and sustainable success!" -Me.

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  • Profile picture of the author NKOfficial
    It is always room there depend only on SEO, not a good idea, only people have a budget they hire the best people in the industry to get on SERP.

    Seo is a huge subject takes a lot of effort and time to learn and money also.

    try guest posting if you have little budget.
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  • Profile picture of the author Self Hosted Life
    I'm too doing hard to rank my blog selfhostedlife.com on Google really.
    I have and I'm trying each and every method to rank on Google and attract traffic from there but even a hard work of 2-3 months I'm attracting only 2-4 views per day. How this is so insane.
    But I have not give up and doing what I can do but there are some hacks that you must try to create backlinks in order to create link juice which helps you to rank on Google, That's what I'm doing
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by mc9320 View Post

    I've had limited success over the past 7 years with Internet Marketing.

    I've had a website which brought in over $1000 as an Amazon affiliate, only for a Google algorithm change to wipe it all out.

    I've tried creating my own info product in a niche related to my profession. This has ticked a long over the past couple of years $150-$500 a month, but it's definitely on the slide, and there's not much I can do about it. The quality of traffic is getting worse and more people are asking for refunds (sometimes for ridiculous reasons)

    So where shall I go to from here?

    I like the idea of creating content for low competition keywords with little to no backlinks. It seems some IM'ers have found success this way in the past.

    But when I try it, I can never get to page 1 despite having more in depth content than the competition.

    So does this strategy work in 2018 or do you need backlinks or at least considerable domain authority to rank any blog post?
    Well, I think at first we need to define what a "successful website" is?

    Does this mean a website that gets a high amount of quality traffic? Does it mean a website that makes a certain amount of money? Is it a website that provides value?

    Regardless, I think the starting point would be providing valuable content to visitors, then from there it depends on your goal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Well, opt-in email marketing still works - assuming that it's actually real people who are opting in. No matter the medium you choose to build your list, the key is in constantly communicating with a large group of people on a daily basis who want to hear the advice you are dispensing.

    You can do this in a variety of ways:

    - You can build a large following of Youtube subscribers
    - You can build a large following of blog subscribers
    - You can build a large following of podcast listeners
    - You can build a large following of opt-in email subscribers who download a freebie from you
    - You can build a large following of customers
    - Etc

    Build up a large list, and steadily contact them with information or very low cost items that they are interested in, and be sure to promote a product that they will be likely to buy. Then be patient and take your time. Don't rush, and don't base your success off of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    I agree that passion has to be the number one thing.

    A lot of us warriors who have been around for at least a few years, can attest that the vast majority of entrepreneurs just don't last!

    It seems like all the time newcomers come on the forum with starlit eyes, only to have their dreams come crashing down when fast success isn't possible.

    Bloggers, writers, affiliate marketers, product vendors, you name it; a lot of them end up shutting up shop (and dissappearing from the warrioforum lol) because they give up on their dreams.

    My two cents is always the same; give yourself a chance by choosing to create content on a topic that you love. A topic, that you could (and would) create content for even if nobody was looking.

    That puts yourself, if nothing else, in a position to stay in the game and continually creating high quality content, which is worth something.
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  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    I'd move away from building a successful website as being your motivator and toward building a business based on some niche you feel passionate about.
    Yes, and passion should be the main engine behind any project one wish to undertake
    I agree that passion has to be the number one thing.
    Complete and utter nonsense.

    Maybe one in ten thousand people can profit from their "passion."

    Making money (regardless of what the wannabe gurus say) is the end goal.

    If you are restricted by your "passions" you are nearly guaranteed to fail.
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    • Profile picture of the author NetMan
      Originally Posted by IGotMine View Post

      Complete and utter nonsense.

      Maybe one in ten thousand people can profit from their "passion."

      Making money (regardless of what the wannabe gurus say) is the end goal.

      If you are restricted by your "passions" you are nearly guaranteed to fail.
      Hey IGotMine,

      First the ETHIC when you QUOTE words from someone else in a thread would be that you LEAVE ON WHO said what you quote.

      Secondly, you might have missed the point, I believe. No one argues against "the end",which OBVIOUSLY is to make money somewhere, somehow! The statement about "having a passion" is in the context of being DRIVEN BY something to get going and motivated. No one said you cannot make money without passion either, of course one can...

      On the other hand, your statement "If you are restricted by your "passions" you are nearly guaranteed to fail" is out of total ignorance, a lie, because being successful out of PASSION has countless of examples in this world and among many well known successful entrepreneurs, and is strictly based on personal EXPERIENCE as well.

      You may not believe it and you have the right to express it, it's your opinion, but saying it is "complete utter nonsense" is a bit besides the plate... lol

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  • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
    Maybe you're in the wrong niche, or using the wrong strategy.
    Why not sell on Amazon or eBay?

    During the past ten years online, I've found that building an online business that relies on search engine traffic is a bad idea.

    Ideally, you want an online business you can build solely with paid traffic. That way it is quicker, more efficient and you can scale it easier.

    Although my blogs get a lot of search engine traffic, I also send a lot of paid traffic to them.

    I'm also dabbling in new business models, such as Amazon FBA, where I don't have to worry about any of those small details.

    What are your thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteNameSales
    Passion? "What's love got to do with it?"

    I'd do some research on my passion before I'd invest a lot of time or money in building a website. And I have build websites dealing with some of my interests. No paid promotion. No SEO. And a trickle of visitors who occasionally click on the Google ads I have posted.

    You're better off sharing your passion with family and friends and contributing useful information on Forums or Facebook.

    If you want to make money, explore areas that are likely to be profitable and then incorporate some SEO along with some other marketing strategies.
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    • Profile picture of the author NetMan
      Originally Posted by SiteNameSales View Post

      Passion? "What's love got to do with it?"

      I'd do some research on my passion before I'd invest a lot of time or money in building a website. And I have build websites dealing with some of my interests. No paid promotion. No SEO. And a trickle of visitors who occasionally click on the Google ads I have posted.

      You're better off sharing your passion with family and friends and contributing useful information on Forums or Facebook.

      If you want to make money, explore areas that are likely to be profitable and then incorporate some SEO along with some other marketing strategies.
      Yes, PASSION! What's wrong with passion !!! loll

      And, thanks for the obvious advice to engaging in "making research" before "investing" time and money. Nevertheless, that's sound and smart thing to do whether one is PASSIONATE or not about a business project one is about to get on. Hence, I do not see the relation.

      I'd add, I'm positively SURE that one can find a PASSION and build a very successful business around an "area likely to be profitable", I'm CERTAIN! If one builds a website where traffic only clicks occasionally on G ads I would tend to believe then that maybe this is because some of it was lacking... PASSION I MEAN
      Hence, again, I cannot see the relation you are trying to make here either...

      Best regards,
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